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Knoppix 3.2 Available

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the if-pie-were-this-easy dept.

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TheCrimsonUnbeliever writes "The latest version of Knoppix (bootable Linux distribution on CD) is out - New features include: KDE 3.1.1 - XFree86 4.3 - Evolution 1.2.1 - OpenOffice 1.0.2 - KOffice 1.2.1 - The ability to create a home directory on a memory stick or similar - More information is available at the KNOPPIX English homepage." If you're getting started with Knoppix (and speak English), you should also check out knoppix.net for the excellent forums hosted there.

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Congrats! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627021)

Congrats on the story post, from all of us in #distributed!

Love, dapple

Re:Congrats! (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627151)

What the fuck are you talking about?

Knoppix! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627025)

Knoppix your eyes out!

Great! (5, Interesting)

CoolVibe (11466) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627027)

I've been waiting for this "ultimate sysadmin's bootdisk" to include kde 3.1.1. This iso saved my life several times already. Go get it! Go knoppix team!

Re:Great! (3, Insightful)

suyashs (645036) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627040)

Yep, its a great system! I love the way that I don't have to rely on anybody's system configuration for my documents and information. Just pop in the disc and off I go!

Re:Great! (4, Insightful)

CoolVibe (11466) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627110)

I tell ya, this thing is a live saver. It saved my ass in the colo the other day when a coworker decided to blow up /etc on a box. I was able to copy over the /etc tree from a working box across nfs, it saved the day.

Sure there are other emergency rescue disks out there, but none of them are as complete as knoppix.

Great job! (5, Informative)

Blaine Hilton (626259) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627033)

I am a big fan of Knoppix, "Linux on a CD" is a great idea. It's also a great tool to have for diagnostics when you can't load the regular O/S. I can't wait to try this new edition.

Old news... move along (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627036)

This has been out for nearly a week. Glad I downloaded it before the crowds started forming.

Knoppix is awesome BTW.

Re:Old news... move along (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627236)

Troll? Wtf!
Knoppix 3.2 was released 1 week ago, unveiled at cebit, and put up for download at the start of last week. I'm also glad I got it efore the crowd started moving.

Main OS of a computer (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627038)

I know similar things have been discussed before, but does anyone have any experience on installing Knoppix to disk? Any problems with it? Does Knoppix work well as a main installation for a computer?

Re:Main OS of a computer (3, Informative)

perotbot (632237) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627116)

couldn't be easier, CTRL-ALT-F1 to get the root console and knx-hdinstall to run the installer, setup the disk with cfdisk and then it copies away, 4 config questions, done.

Re:Main OS of a computer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627680)

sudo knx-hdinstall

to install it from a konsole session under X.

Console-only hard disk install? (2, Interesting)

D4C5CE (578304) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627707)

couldn't be easier, CTRL-ALT-F1 to get the root console and knx-hdinstall to run the installer, setup the disk with cfdisk and then it copies away, 4 config questions, done.

While knx-hdinstall does a great job e.g. for instant exorcisms of Windows from any machine ;-) by installing a full-fledged KDE workplace from just one single CD, Knoppix also provides a nice console-based Linux when using a boot paramater such as knoppix 2 vga=ask.
Complete with samba and CUPS, in a heterogenous LAN this does have important advantages over a single-floppy Linux.
However, there does not seem to be an easy way yet to install just this "text mode" system through knx-hdinstall on a machine with low RAM and HDD, as the script always insists on using some 3 gigabytes of hard disk space, and filling it with loads of X stuff that may never be used. (There are other distributions without X, of course, but on the other hand there's no reason not to do it with Knoppix either.)
Has anybody successfully installed it without all of the X and KDE code on machines where startx will never be invoked, or maybe even modified knx-hdinstall for this purpose (without rebuilding the entire CD)?

Knoppix as an installer :) (5, Informative)

timothy (36799) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627125)

Joe Barr wrote a good piece about this [linuxworld.com] ; I'm still burning my Knoppix 3.2, but I can testify that what he wrote here is a good guide for the previous versions and I'm guessing will be applicable to the new one.

(Upshot: there's a script called something like "knxhdinstall" which leads you through formatting hard drive etc, then transfers the Knoppix base OS and included apps. Previous Linux experience strongly recommended, but it's certainly easier than going in with zero experience with, say, regular Debian :))

I have used Knoppix as an installer for several machines; that's one reason I keep extra desktops around, for playing with different distros as we asymptotically approach The (mythical) Perfect OS.

It works well, but there are some glitches: with some versions of Knoppix, the hard-drive install method seems to jump between English version and German version, doesn't matter that I had the EN iso, doesn't matter that the system seemed otherwise localized to English ... However, I am optimistic that this is no longer a problem with the new one :) (And my German is good enough that I could get through the German screens, so it *did work* it was just ... worrisome :)). And that was a glitch -- I forget which ISO had the German jumping, but I downloaded another one afterward (the next rev) and it worked fine.

As a perpetual fumbler, this is the only way I have gotten Debian working well, and it was quick n' easy. Knopper deserves the computing version of the Nobel for this :)

timothy

You're still fat timothy (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627524)

But your succulent pasty white young bum is like a juicy peeled plum. MY! How delicious the flesh is, but dare I imagine whats in the middle?

*giggle*

Re:You're still fat timothy (0, Offtopic)

guacamolefoo (577448) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627742)

But your succulent pasty white young bum is like a juicy peeled plum. MY! How delicious the flesh is, but dare I imagine whats in the middle?

*giggle*


Shut up, Taco.

GF.

Re:Main OS of a computer (1)

snol (175626) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627484)

I installed 3.1 (i believe) a couple months ago and it's what I'm running now. Installation is mostly easy; the only problem I ran into was with the bootloader and I'm pretty sure that was just cause I thought I was smart enough to configure LILO myself rather than letting the install script do it.

Once it's installed it seems to me the only potential problem is that it's a mix of different debian stability-levels so you can run into some dependency issues with the packaging system. Maybe that happens anyway; I wouldn't know cause I never ran a debian system before, and it's certainly usable anyway.

Knoppix Rocks (4, Interesting)

PhatKat (78180) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627042)

This OS runs faster than my installation of windows and it runs entirely off 1 CD. So cool.

Re:Knoppix Rocks (4, Informative)

Sancho (17056) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627126)

Having run Knoppix on the same machine as Windows, I sincerely doubt that Knoppix actually runs faster than Windows (unless you are running in console mode, and it's hardly fair to compare that to any windowing environment). The sheer amount of swapping required in Knoppix is astounding, unless your system has 1gb+ of memory. And that's assuming a swap partition on your disk--something Knoppix doesn't require. Pulling everything from the cdrom (and then decompressing it) is an agonizingly slow process.

Re:Knoppix Rocks (3, Insightful)

penguinboy (35085) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627219)

Speed must vary greatly from system to system, then. I use Knoppix from CD on the lab computers (P4 1.7, 128MB RAM, no swap partition) at school occasionally and it runs quite well for web browsing and photo-editing with the Gimp.

Re:Knoppix Rocks (4, Interesting)

SirDaShadow (603846) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627429)

I wish I had mod points today, this is FUD, FUD, BS, troll, whatever you name it. It's true that Knoppix is unable to open certain memory-hog apps without a swapfile but it's a far cry from being slow and even a farther cry from using 1GB. I have found 256MB without swapfile is more than adequate to run anything in Knoppix. If you have a machine with less than 256MB nowadays you prolly are an AOLuser. Happy swapping! :)

Re:Knoppix Rocks (1)

Dave2 Wickham (600202) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627513)

No, it isn't. Many apps run a bit slower on my machine in Knoppix than they do on Windows.

Re:Knoppix Rocks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627190)

I think it's pretty safe to say this guy is trolling.

Yeah, well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627044)

What I've wanted, and wanted for quite a while, is a mini-distribution with an FTP, telnet, and web server. If anyone knows of one, could you please respond to this thread?

Re:Yeah, well... (2, Informative)

dsfd (622555) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627191)

Try with Timo's rescue cd. It is based on Debian. and you can configure it to include the packages that you need. I recomend it.

http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/

Re:Yeah, well... (2, Offtopic)

AnonymousCowheart (646429) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627196)

Check out Peanut linux [ibiblio.org] only 340mg download, not too bad.
Not mini enough? Did you miss the os news discussion on other linux distros [osnews.com] Check some of the ones listed there. Good luck!

Re:Yeah, well... (1)

AnonymousCowheart (646429) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627248)

"only 340mg"
i know, i know, before anyone else says it, i see i wrote mg instead of mb - gimme a break, im doing chemistry hw;)

Re:Yeah, well... (1)

nullard (541520) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627377)

I have peanut on my fujitsu tablet. It used to be 90MB. Too bad it got so bloated. I had to install it over paralell once. 90MB was bearable. 340 takes it out of the tiny range.

Home dir on memory stick? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627045)

Can someone translate this to a windows user?

Re:Home dir on memory stick? (4, Informative)

twiztidlojik (522383) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627054)

It's similar to having all your my documents, desktop etc in one folder. This folder happens to reside on a memory stick instead of C:\documents and settings\yournamehere.

Or something like that. Feel free to flame & berate me at will.

Re:Home dir on memory stick? (4, Informative)

c0dedude (587568) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627087)

To claify, say you want file winfix. It's not included on the Knoppix distro, so you make a USB memory stick with you home directory. You'd put winfix on that stick, and it'd register at boottime, and when it was fully loaded, your winfix file from the stick would be in /home/$yourname/, easily accessable. It's because 1. you can't write to a CD-R (duh) and 2. any files you create would be stored on a ramdrive, unless you acessed the hard drive, in which case they would be stored locally on that one box. Storing files on a USB memory stick allows you to keep all your knoppix tools and stuff togather. I hope this helps to clear things up.

Re:Home dir on memory stick? (2, Informative)

c0dedude (587568) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627128)

Yikes. That's really confusing. To define stuff: 1. Ramdrive-a virtual memory drive created in RAM
2. /home/$yourname/ -It's where you store your stuff in unix/linux
3. USB memory stick-something like one of these [thinkgeek.com]
4. CD-R: CD-recordable- it's write only, meaning you can only change it once by burning something to it. Compared to the CD-RW, which is a CD-rewritable, which can be written more than once.
6. Boottime-when the computer starts up.

Re:Home dir on memory stick? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627427)

Congrats, you made a simple idea about as complex as it can get.

I think we need yet more clairification,

Ramdrive: a virtual filing system created entirely in volatile storage.

$HOME: /home is the heirarchy, as described in the filesystem heirarchy standard, where user user home directories are stored.

USB memory stick: non-volatile removable storage using the universal serial bus interface.

CD-R: Write Once, Read Multiple removable media, usually disc shaped.

Boottime: shot for Bootstrap, The period immediately after the POST process, where the operating system is laucnhed.

Re:Home dir on memory stick? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627099)

It's the Linux equivalent of that folder PLUS the whole HKEY_CURRENT_USER section of registry. By having the /home directory in read-write media while the rest of the system is on read-only media, it functions basically no differently than a really-locked-down system.

Pretty cool really.

Re:Home dir on memory stick? (3, Informative)

TheCrimsonUnbeliever (638597) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627065)

On linux /home/[you] is where all of your settings are saved (for you logged in as [you])

In many systems it is the only area that is writeable for you as a normal user (not running in admin mode)

For KNOPPIX - this means that all your settings will be carried around with you - But not all of your hardware condiguration - So you will be booting into 'your' desktop everywhere you go

All I need now is a supported stick

Re:Home dir on memory stick? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627461)

name one unix like system that doesnt have a world writable /tmp.

Wonderful! (4, Informative)

Badge 17 (613974) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627046)

Knoppix is just the thing that I've been looking for to convert friends and family to Linux - worked with several people.

Does anyone know if this latest version still has the odd bug where XP systems seem to boot incorrectly? This has been the major obstacle to getting it accepted at school - still worries about it affecting the computers.

Re:Wonderful! (3, Informative)

Vermyndax (126974) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627064)

I've been using 3.2 for about a week or so now and haven't experienced any dual boot troubles with XP. The only thing to be aware of is that you will have to correct your lilo.conf to add the Windows XP partition back in after installing Knoppix to the hard drive...

Re:Wonderful! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627543)

I don't know what bug you're referring to, but the boot issues would be hardware specific, nothing to do with XP.
No worry about it affecting the system, everything is mounted read only (unless you have a linux partition, and then only that is mounted rw). Otherwise, there is no hard drive activity unless you specifically enable it.
If you have issues with Knoppix booting, take that to the knoppix forums.

Slashdot's Karma (-1, Offtopic)

boulat (216724) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627047)

IS LAAAMEEE, get a life, stop reading someone's posts.

Yay (2, Interesting)

Unregistered (584479) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627051)

while my Knoppix 3.1 cds are fine for mow i'm glad the knoppix folks are so quick w/ updates.

Knoppix is great for a sys where you can't install an OS. I still use my gentoo livecds for repair, but i never leave home w/out a knoppix CD. (I'm such a nerd)

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Does it come... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627058)

with a large selection of fake Windows login screens, so I can reboot a public computer with this disc and collect a few login/password pairs?

Re:Does it come... (2, Interesting)

Adam9 (93947) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627265)

I've always wondered how many usernames and passwords I could capture as an experiment. Seriously. Windows 2k/XP requires you to press ctrl+alt+del to bypass this sort of thing to get access to the login screen. But what if you just left the login screen up without the ctrl+alt+del message? Do you think anyone would notice? I could say, with a high probability, that I would probably even be fooled. Anyone else ever think about this?

You're missing the point of using Linux (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627290)

Windows 2k/XP requires you to press ctrl+alt+del to prevent someone from doing this with a Windows app.

english? (4, Funny)

jfroot (455025) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627061)

If you're getting started with Knoppix (and speak English), you should also check out knoppix.net for the excellent forums hosted there.

I think one can assume english is spoken if you're reading an english web site.

Re:english? (5, Funny)

concatenation (647741) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627088)

Apua! Missä minä olen?! :-(

Re:english? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627104)

hahaha i would mod you up!!!!!!

Re:english? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627640)

Apua! Missä minä olen?!

This translates to "Help! Where am I?!" for those whose grasp of the Finnish language is less than perfect.

Re:english? (1)

Gyorg_Lavode (520114) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627122)

I believe they meant 'as opposed to german' since knoppix is local to Germany (I think).

default language (4, Informative)

Kircle (564389) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627074)

make sure you get the latest version of 3.2 and not, say for example, the one from v3.2-3-21-2003. they changed the default language from german back to english...

Which version? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627306)

None of the mirrors listed on the site seem to have a plain (undated) 3.2 ISO. Is KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-28-EN.iso the 3.2 release version?

Re:Which version? (3, Informative)

ctid (449118) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627442)

Yep. That's the one you want. The 21st March -EN version had German as the default language!

Knoppix is great (4, Informative)

ctid (449118) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627078)

This is just another testimonial for Knoppix. Quite apart from all the other nice things people are saying about it, when I plug in my NEX IIe MP3 player, Knoppix recognizes it straightaway and places a link to its filesystem on the desktop!

Downloaded yesterday (5, Informative)

perotbot (632237) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627106)

Got it, burned it, loved it. Easiest way to install Debian on x86. They put alot of thought in it. One lesser known feature is that it detects wlans and automatically configures the cards to access it. (provided that there is no WEP installed) so it works great at Starbucks....Latte and linux!

Re:Downloaded yesterday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627253)

"alot" is two words...you wouldn't say "alittle" would you?

there is no such word as "alot"
you should type it as two words "a lot"

Mod Up Parent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627278)

I like this comment alot! I certainly wish alot more people would follow his advice.

Re:Downloaded yesterday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627301)

Thanks for clearing that up! I had no idea of what your parent post was about, until you fixed the mess! Thanks once again.

Can I use to try Linux? (1, Redundant)

AKA da JET (280057) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627107)

I was wondering. Could I use this to try out Linux without actually installing Linux on my hard drive? I'm currently running Windows XP and was wondering if I could just try it out without it really changing or screwing around with my current configuration.

Re:Can I use to try Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627140)

That is the entire point of it - you certainly can.

Re:Can I use to try Linux? (3, Informative)

Gyorg_Lavode (520114) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627141)

Yes, Knoppix will run without messing with your hard drive. You stick it in the cd-rom drive, it creates any directories that have to be writable into ram, and you can work on the computer without use of the hard drive. (This is why it is so well loved by people who continuiously have to fix computers.)

Re:Can I use to try Linux? (0)

AKA da JET (280057) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627146)

Thanks, I'm downloading it now! :)

yes. that is the whole point of Knoppix (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627734)

now go read the more blathery answers.

Yep (2, Informative)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627148)

It won't write to your harddrive at all, but you'll be able to make your windows harddrives readable through the mount command (the software itself might even do this for you, but I don't know). Also, if your looking for a good linux-on-a-disk distro check out gentoo's live disk at www.gentoo.org. If your system's up to snuff you can even play the linux version of Unreal Tournament 2003 demo right off the disk! You'll need an nvidia card though :(. Still, check it out.

Re:Yep (1)

AKA da JET (280057) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627160)

Cool, I have a GeForce3 and a 2Mhz P4, so I'm guessing my machine will work. I'll have to try that sometime.

Re:Yep (1)

AKA da JET (280057) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627182)

haha, GHz, not MHz, but you already knew that ;)

Anyone know when KnoppixKDE will be out? (4, Informative)

pschmied (5648) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627167)

For those who haven't tried the KnoppixKDE edition, it's great. Last I heard, the developer of this Knoppix remaster was working on a new version. Does anyone know if it is nearing completion?

KnoppixKDE doesn't have all the software that the full Knoppix distro has, but I generally find it to be a little more comfortable and much more unified.

The only thing that was missing (I think) in the last version was Scribus [altmuehlnet.de] . Scribus is a QT app that comes with Knoppix that looks like it may eventually be a good alternative to Pagemaker and perhaps QuarkExpress or InDesign. It's got a ways to go, but it's already quite useable for simple layout.

-Peter

Make your own KDE only version . (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627268)

You can rebuild the thing and remove all but what you want.. and add stuff too.. Or just hardcode values for your situation.

There are instructions on the site - look for "KnoppixRemastering"

Assuming you have the hardware and patience of course..

Re:Make your own KDE only version . (2, Insightful)

pschmied (5648) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627381)

Yes, but why reinvent the wheel? :-)

-Peter

Request for Mirrors (1)

I Am The Owl (531076) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627205)

Anybody have a BitTorrent mirror set up yet?

Re:Request for Mirrors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627762)

For those that don't know, BitTorrent [bitconjurer.org] is a way of reducing bandwidth while keeping speeds high. The more people that are downloading, the faster the download goes.

Basically, everybody who is downloading, is also uploading what they have to somebody else, and the burden of hosting the file is distributed among all the downloaders. It reduces bandwidth for the server, and you could think of it as impervious to the slashdot effect.

It's sort of a combination of p2p with the client/server model, but leaning more towards client/server. It is really great, and I can't imagine why it hasn't caught on outside of the Anime world. Give it a try!

so that's why... (1)

twms2h (473383) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627207)

... my download of the iso image is only running at half speed. All those bloody /.ers are downloading it....

Works great for me (1)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627229)

I love having this with my Thinkpad. I miss my OS X system at home. And need windows for school. Whenever I get unix sick, and need to see home directory... Just pop in the CD.

It works great. Even works with my built in Wireless Card, and my ethernet card.... can't believe how great the drivers are on that CD. Works with everything I own.

Lots of software to boot as well

Somebody hang Tomothy by his toenails (1)

nicotinix (648645) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627240)

I am in the middle of downloading the ISO (~200mb so far) and - boom - slashdotted......

All kidding aside, this is a great tool as a bood cd distro and works equally well for a hdd install. Since Debian always put up a fight for me in the past, this is about as sweet as it gets.

An if anybody says Linux is not ready for the desktop, I just laugh. It works perfect for me. Yes, there is a learning curve, but the more you know, the better it gets. AND you can do things at your own pace.

Peace!

Re:Somebody hang Tomothy by his toenails (3, Insightful)

CvD (94050) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627345)

Someone should put it on Kazaa or eDonkey or somesuch. These distributed, multisource p2p apps are perfect for stuff like this.

Cheers,

Costyn.

the Ultimate Recovery CDROM (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627247)

is called FreeBSD!

Re:the Ultimate Recovery CDROM (1)

TheCrimsonUnbeliever (638597) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627454)

I would like to use a freeBSD live CD - If anything it gives me the sneer power of "oh - you use LINUX? - How cute"

*grin*

How about a CDRW? (5, Insightful)

pherthyl (445706) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627260)

What if you had Knoppix on a CDRW? Would it be somehow possible to channel disk writes through a cd burning tool and save all your files directly to the cd?

Space would be at a premium I imagine but if you deleted some of the apps you dont use.... Now THAT would be pretty amazing.

Should be possible (1)

CausticWindow (632215) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627296)

There is a packet-cd implementation for Linux. I don't know if Knoppix have this though.

Packet-cd project on sourceforge [sourceforge.net]

Re:Should be possible (1)

HeUnique (187) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627868)

That project is dead for 2 years now..

Good Marketing for Linux (2, Interesting)

abcxyz (142455) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627263)

I've used this on several ocassions to show people interested in linux it's features on their own systems. They were impressed that no installation / partitioning was required and they could play without messing up their MS boxes.

-- Rick

Check out Morphix ! (5, Interesting)

IIEFreeMan (450812) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627272)

Knoppix is great but it's quite monolithic. Morphix [morphix.org] is Knoppix-based (with the same great hardware detection) but it is based on modules so you can customize your ISO very easily. For exemple there is a Gnome module, A KDE module, A light GUI module (with ICEwm) and so forth ...

It's also nice because it's a clean Debian unstable whereas Knoppix was (i don't know about 3.2) based on a mix of stable/unstable packages.

Re:Check out Morphix ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5627421)

I was looking for a Gnome friendly alternative ot Knoppix and Morphix looks like the best answer for Gnome junkies who want something like knoppix but with Gnone instead of KDE.

Hope to try it real soon.

I don't know what you mean by "available" (2, Funny)

chrisseaton (573490) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627277)

"Knoppix 3.2 Available"

I don't know what you mean by "available" - I certainly can't find any mirrors that will respond

Re:I don't know what you mean by "available" (2, Informative)

LinuxGeek (6139) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627333)

I'm currently downloading from Purdue @ ~50KBps. Remember that wget is your friend, don't iso images download with your browser if you can't resume.

Re:I don't know what you mean by "available" (1)

chrisseaton (573490) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627346)

Couldn't thow me a url, could you? Cheers.

Re:I don't know what you mean by "available" (1)

LinuxGeek (6139) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627519)

I am currently getting the 3-28 image and will update it with rsync.
You could try this link [xmission.com] and use rsync too.

knoppix is great (1)

Mantorp (142371) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627326)

I installed XP sp1 on my HP pavilion which made it no longer work, couldn't get to safe mode, last known working config, not load to DOS, nothing. Dead to the world. Luckily I had a knoppix CD lying around so I was able to use it to back up my essential data by ftping it to my old PC. Good thing too since the supposed non-destructive rebuild was quite destructive.

This is actually useful! (1)

Dri (16940) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627492)

I attended a course on a mulitplatform application. The classroom only had Windows PC's. The teacher, who could forsee there would be Linux geeks brought Knoppix with him. And damn. This rocks. Booted up, a few desktop clicks (and 'course some bashing) and bam, a fully functional workstation! Don't leave the house without this baby. Free advice!

Great! I'm buying a USB memory key today! (3, Insightful)

aquarian (134728) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627585)

I've been waiting for this "persistent home" version of Knoppix to appear. Now when I travel I may even be able to leave my laptop behind -- all I need is a Knoppix CD, and a USB memory key.

Re:Great! I'm buying a USB memory key today! (1)

Jungle guy (567570) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627761)

And a desktop computer, of course!

Any computer! (1)

aquarian (134728) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627857)

And a desktop computer, of course!

Or a borrowed laptop! Any x86 machine!

nice but... (1)

koekepeer (197127) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627627)

hey don't get me wrong, i think this a pretty cool concept, but isn't it a bit old already? i never used it, but i can remember slackware years ago already had a "live" CDROM.

and there's more distro's (don't know by heart since i only use slack nowadays) that have this feature. what makes knoppix so special? the automatic configuration?

enlighten me please :)

Re:nice but... (2, Insightful)

dsfd (622555) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627701)

A friend said exactly that when I gave him a copy. Just try it and you will see:

1-The impressive automatic configuration
2-The quantity and quality of software included
3-The capability to read Linux and MS filesystems, including ext3 and reiserfs

In my home machine I just insert the CD and in a few minutes I have a Debian system running. It configures correctly all the hardware, the network card, Internet access, CD writer, sound card, VIDEO card, etc.

Last month I bought a new video card. I just let Knoppix generate the Xfree configuration files for it, rebooted Debian Woody and it is working fine. It is also an excellent tool to test new or second hand machines before buying.

However, to be honest, I have to say that Knoppix hangs my new Toshiba 1900-303 laptop. This seems to be strage but it may happen.

Unmounting the CD (1)

mdw162 (654188) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627659)

I've tried Knoppix and it's great -- but I was wondering if anyone knew if it's possible to unmount the cd after boot. It's be nice to be able to insert a music or data cd while Knoppix is running but I don't know if that's possible since the Knoppix CD itself needs to stay mounted.

Maybe if you have *lots* of RAM... (1)

aquarian (134728) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627797)

This would only be possible if you can load the whole CD into RAM and swap. I don't know if this is possible the way Knoppix is set up, but there may be a switch you can use at startup that does it. Currently it seems to run only off the CD for me, so when starting a new app I have to wait for the CD to spin up to load it.

G2 P2P link here (1)

sgtsanity (568914) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627817)

magnet:?xt=urn:bitprint:Y2YAXRLP4RZSMEYSWQMIQPBYP5 GSJLKA.ST2KW6VMR5CX6XG5K4CQBQOBHLECCZFEGEALOTQ&dn= KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-23-EN.iso [magnet]

Note: You'll need a Gnutella program that supports magnet links to download this. I personally use Shareaza [shareaza.com] . It's not the newest version of Knoppix, but I've found it to be pretty stable.

Speed... (4, Informative)

aquarian (134728) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627851)

One thing that really surprised me was how fast Knoppix runs. Compared to the other distros I've had on my laptop (Redhat and Mandrake), Knoppix screams. The others were noticeably slower than Windows, while Knoppix is at least on par, maybe faster. Of course it's a little slow loading applications from a CD, but otherwise it's a screamer.

The boot speed is incredible, especially considering all the hardware detection it's doing. I'm up and running in about 30 seconds. Win2k takes at least 3-4 minutes, every time.

I've had little experience with Debian. People say it's faster, and now I see they're not kidding.

Demo mode in other distros ? (3, Insightful)

InodoroPereyra (514794) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627855)

I just wonder why is it that other distros don't follow the trend, use some of knoppix' technology and add a demo mode to their installers. People could boot off the CD, see a demo, and if they like it and their hardware gets successfully detected they can go ahead and install on the disk. If I remember correctly SuSE was doing it ? How about Mandrake and RedHat ? Are they going to catch up on this one ? It looks like the way to go !

Just like AOL trial cds.... (3, Interesting)

pr0c (604875) | more than 11 years ago | (#5627873)

Although i've said this many times before when its come up... I give these things out like AOL trial cds! Whenever a new version of knoppix comes out i burn about 10 copies and hand them out to co-workers, friends and family. I give a very brief explanation of what it is and and I offer support.

I have sucsessfully switched only a few people over (they both dual boot and only use windows if needed) but if we all got a few people switched over .... think about that :P
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