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Rebuilding Iraq's Internet

CmdrTaco posted more than 11 years ago | from the other-side-of-war dept.

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Anselm writes "According to this article at Wired.com, "The war has left Iraq's Internet infrastructure in shambles. Now, a British ISP hopes to fund the reconstruction through sales of domain names ending in .iq." While I have no use for an IQ domain, the article does make me wonder: Should geeks around the world take the lead in getting Iraq back online?"

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Why don't we... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5702974)

Try and feed them first.

Re:Why don't we... (5, Funny)

missing000 (602285) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703047)

Here's an idea:
How about we give them food, PC's, cars, etc. in exchange for oil.
This could be facilitated through an intermediate form of exchange we could call "money".

Re:Why don't we... (0)

Cloud 9 (42467) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703108)

We already tried that. It resulted in an attempted invasion of Kuwait, and the eventual (supposed) death of their president/dictator.

Oh, you were being sarcastic?

Re:Why don't we... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703141)

Don't worry for the oil, the US will have time to suck it and there is no need to exchange. Don't forget that the people in iraq are "free" now.

Re:Why don't we... (1)

jmv (93421) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703053)

Agreed. The way it's going the Iraqi will have high-speed Internet, CDMA cellphones, ... yet nothing to eat and no safe water. "But we're all doing that for the poor Iraqi people..."

Re:Why don't we... (5, Interesting)

Beatbyte (163694) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703069)

internet will help with social unrest (hobby) and will also help with businesses (puts food on small business person's table).

i am better at giving away IT help than food ;)

besides.. i'd imagine the red cross and the humanitarian efforts around the globe are taking care of this problem.

Re:Why don't we... (2, Interesting)

capnjack41 (560306) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703070)

Try and feed them first.

True, but there are non-geek groups already doing that. It wouldn't hurt helping them out a bit, getting rebuilt technologically.

Besides, technology -> jobs -> money -> food. Hooray for more places to which the US can outsource work :-p!

Re:Why don't we... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703107)

Damn you Beatbyte, for beating me to the exact same post, by seconds. Bah!

Re:Why don't we... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703075)

how about b/c the only "deep water" port needs to be dredged first?

Re:Why don't we... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703102)

I most especially love how a British firm is looking to auction off Iraqi web addresses to British and American firms. Apparently anything and everything the Iraqi's have is open to being sold off by the US and UK and is now justified as payment for their liberation.

Re:Why don't we... (2, Insightful)

Carbonite (183181) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703105)

I find it rather sad that an AC has one of the few serious comments. Buying "somethinginane.iq" isn't going to help Iraq. The coalition ensuring that food shipments reach the people will help Iraq. Much of the food that was sent as part of the "Food for Oil" program ended up spoiling in warehouses guarded by Iraqi goons.

Re:Why don't we... (3, Funny)

gpinzone (531794) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703165)

Much of the food that was sent as part of the "Food for Oil" program ended up spoiling in warehouses guarded by Iraqi goons.

Not anymore.

Re:Why don't we... (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703180)

Right next to the boxed bodies of dissadents I suppose....

Jaysyn

Three basic needs: (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703110)

Food, water, Internet pr0n.

Re:Why don't we... (1)

Joe the Lesser (533425) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703140)

Why don't we try to save their oil wells first? Oh, we're already doing that? Excellent Smithers.

Ha! (2, Funny)

mrpuffypants (444598) | more than 11 years ago | (#5702976)

And they said that I couldn't buy an IQ!

FP!

YOU FAIL IT (1)

usotsuki (530037) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703050)

ROTFLMAO! But you didn't get first post. ;)

-uso.
Hmm. Dosius.iq? I think I like the sound of that *g*

Re:Ha! (2, Funny)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703162)

The Mensa weenies could line up for numbered .iq domains. e.g. 165.iq

(Do Mensa members get spam for pills to make their IQ 30% bigger?)

Re:Ha! (3, Funny)

Nick of NSTime (597712) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703202)

No, we don't.

Alright! (5, Funny)

freeze128 (544774) | more than 11 years ago | (#5702986)

Who wants to be the first to have www.high.iq?

Re:Alright! (0)

outsider007 (115534) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703121)

only if i can have it hosted on an iRack

most slashdotters... (1, Funny)

MisterFancypants (615129) | more than 11 years ago | (#5702987)

Most slashdot users would be right at home as username@low.iq

Good names (0, Redundant)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 11 years ago | (#5702989)

military.iq
saddams.iq
reallylow.iq
rellyhigh.i q

You forgot one (-1, Funny)

gatesh8r (182908) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703018)

georgewbushs.iq -- unfortuately that will come out 404.

Re:You forgot one (1, Funny)

Zordak (123132) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703115)

I'm all for debunking the "George W. Bush is stupid" myths, but don't you think 404 is a little high?

Re:You forgot one (0, Flamebait)

Cloud 9 (42467) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703155)

Congratulations, you're an idiot.

Re:You forgot one (0, Flamebait)

r00zky (622648) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703120)

brrzzt!! wrong
that page should show a huge zero

any number higher than zero showing in that page is an insult to humankind

Re:Good names (5, Funny)

Carbonite (183181) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703023)

rellyhigh.iq

Obviously not...

How's this..... (3, Funny)

SuperSnooper (587646) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703028)

enoughof.stale.iq/jokes

I think the marines should take the lead... (1)

Binestar (28861) | more than 11 years ago | (#5702992)

They have all that body armour and those big guns and Tanks.

What the hell? (1)

cjpez (148000) | more than 11 years ago | (#5702993)

How is getting a .iq domain name going to rebuild infrastructure?

Re:What the hell? (1)

SpaceLifeForm (228190) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703065)

The domain name is not the point.
The point is to get the networking infrastructure working again.

Re:What the hell? (1)

cjpez (148000) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703137)

It's certainly the point when they're trying to fund it WITH .iq domain name sales. What an incredibly lame plan. Still, I'm sure the $100 profit they'll make will help a lot. Yeah. Go them.

I wonder... (2, Funny)

Da Fokka (94074) | more than 11 years ago | (#5702995)

Is the Tar.iq domain already claimed? I want to set up a fan site :P

Re:I wonder... (0)

usotsuki (530037) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703092)

Mod parent up Funny!!!

-uso.
A fan site to Tariq Aziz?... :\

damn! (0, Funny)

bryanthompson (627923) | more than 11 years ago | (#5702998)

Quick, register www.whatismy.iq ! ! !

The problem is (5, Insightful)

KDan (90353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703003)

There's only so many funny domains you can make that end in IQ, cause there's only so many pun sentences with IQ in them... And even if you multiply them all by $15 I doubt that's enough to make a difference to Iraq's internet infrastructure (it's a big country). Probably one single oil well will (literally) drown this tiny contribution - and they have many.

Daniel

Ironic sig (1)

yerricde (125198) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703033)

cause there's only so many pun sentences with IQ in them

This seems especially ironic in light of your current signature:

You can never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the american public.

As others have pointed out in other comments to this article, lots of jokes can be made about IQ, or Intelligence Quotient.

yes (5, Funny)

phil-is-math (602835) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703004)

Yes, I would like to play counter-strike against them.

Uh... priorities??? (3, Insightful)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703006)

I think they could use safe water, power, infrastructure, etc. before www.cnn.iq!

Re:Uh... priorities??? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Struct (660658) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703062)

They can buy all of those things on ebay once they all have broadband, right?

Contracts and sub-contracts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703009)

I don't know about you guys, but I'm gonna be on the lookout for any sort of contract that demands a remote admin. This kind of contract (or even sub contract) will be big dollar - and you won't have to go to the Middle East to do it.

Come one (4, Insightful)

Joshuah (82679) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703011)

Boo freakady who. Iraq has so many other problems right now. Why dont geeks send MONEY, FOOD to local companies like CARE that help the people of Iraq. By providing food, 100% of the people can use it. how many iraq's have a computer much less have ever been online? Yeah, in a year or two from now, when people are feed and they are dying for disesases, then worry abou rebuilding the internet systems...

knowledge is power (5, Insightful)

e2d2 (115622) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703147)

No one said they should spend the money they receive for food and health instead on Internet access. They simply want to build the Internet infrastructure in Iraq into something that can be used by the masses. I would say freedom of information coincides quite nicely with the coalitions effort to build Iraq into a land free people. Pulling these people out of the knowldege embargo imposed by Saddam Hussein and his regime will help freedom survive in an area of the world that is known for it's denial of free information to citizens. Knowledge _IS_ power. When Iraqi citizens can get equal acess to information they can see other side of the coin, instead of the state controlled side only. Why do you think so many totalitarian governments want to control the Internet access to their countries (CHINA)? So it does coincide with the freedom initiative quite well.

Besides you have to start the plans now to rebuild if you want to get it done later. This type of rebuilding is going to last a lifetime and take a tremendous amount of planning and effort.

Re:Come one (3, Insightful)

Xerithane (13482) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703201)

Boo freakady who. Iraq has so many other problems right now. Why dont geeks send MONEY, FOOD to local companies like CARE that help the people of Iraq. By providing food, 100% of the people can use it. how many iraq's have a computer much less have ever been online? Yeah, in a year or two from now, when people are feed and they are dying for disesases, then worry abou rebuilding the internet systems...

I'm sorry, but an ISP is not geared towards providing humanitarian aid. They are geared towards providing internet access. Is it a priority? Not really. Is it something for them to expand their market capital? Yup. Is it still a good thing? Yup.

They are a business, that is doing business things, in a business world, to enhance their business. This is like getting upset that Microsoft is not going to send all of their resources and money for food and aid.

Businesses make money. That's what they do. In fact, it's almost the very definition of "business." All the threads saying that it's not a priority, you are right. This isn't about a priority. This is about a business venture.

Re:Come one (5, Funny)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703205)

how many iraq's have a computer

Well, from the pictures of the looting, a lot more than a couple days ago.

Why do I feel like... (1)

FatSean (18753) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703013)

...Iraq is going to become a world power in open-relays and general SPAMishness?

Re:Why do I feel like... (1)

TheMidget (512188) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703168)

...Iraq is going to become a world power in open-relays and general SPAMishness?

Yeah, so Bush's son too will have an excuse to invade Iraq: stop spam!

GeekCorps (3, Interesting)

AbdullahHaydar (147260) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703016)

Geeks should definitely get involved and they should do it through GeekCorps [geekcorps.org] since that works through the PeaceCorps and international organizations.

What do you mean ? (1)

Geekonomical (461622) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703020)

Does it mean that geeks are the group of people running around with a lotta cash in hands to do this sort of thing?

Also it makes me wonder what kind of an internet infrastructure Iraq had in the first place! The article is sketchy on that!

hah (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703021)

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First things first (4, Insightful)

igaborf (69869) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703032)

Should geeks around the world take the lead in getting Iraq back online?

Yes, because, God knows, getting on the 'Net is every Iraqi's first priority at the moment.

IQ domains? How does it help? (5, Insightful)

cmburns69 (169686) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703037)

How does this help the Iraqi people? All this does is give the rest of the world more domain space, while not giving Iraq the full value of their "property".

Why couldn't it be an Iraqi company that sells the domains? This would allow the country to keep all of the proceeds, instead of only getting some of the value.

I'm not against the UK, the US, France or anybody, but I think this might be one area where this company is being opportunistic.

An online Starcraft RPG? Only at [netnexus.com]
In soviet Russia, all your us are belong to base!

Huh? (5, Funny)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703040)

I thought Halliburton had a lucrative contract to do this too?

Dont expect a huge jump. (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703041)

I am sure Internet access for non government use is pritty low on the list. things like Food, Rebuiling infrastructure, maintaining political stability. Is more of a priority. But after that getting a good Internet connection is important if they want to compeet in todays buisness market. Who know if you do it right they will have a better country network layout then the rest of the world. I am just more aftraid of getting spam from mighty.iq or something.

wonder what happed too... (1)

Jupiter9 (366355) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703042)

I'd like to know what happened to this Iraqi's web blog [blogspot.com] . It was an interesting read at the beginning of the war.

Re:wonder what happed too... (1)

lysium (644252) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703176)

Raed is hopefully just offline for the near to medium future. I am really hoping he didn't, say, get a HARM missile locked onto his satelite uplink....

Re:wonder what happed too... (2, Informative)

privacyt (632473) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703193)

I'd like to know what happened to this Iraqi's web blog [blogspot.com]. It was an interesting read at the beginning of the war.

The Baghdad telecommunications got wiped out on the 25th, according to news reports. And as of last night, Baghdad still didn't have electicity. (Also keep in mind that as of today, the US only controls half the city, according to the latest from CNN.)

So it could be awhile. I sure hope Salam is surviving the looting and anarchy. (He lives in a wealthy part of Baghdad.) It will be fascinating to see what he says when he is able to post again.

Get a life. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703043)


Should geeks around the world take the lead
in getting Iraq back online?

Reading this, I'm wondering... should geeks around the world take care of their own businesses?

Blog by an Iraqi (1)

privacyt (632473) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703054)

Here's a weblog by an Iraqi citizen living in Baghdad: "Where is Raed?" [blogspot.com] I think all of you will find it to be of great interest. (BTW, I hope he survived the war. His last post was Mrch 24.)

Mensa.IQ ... et al. (0, Redundant)

jot445 (637326) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703055)

WhatIsMy.IQ
IncreaseYour.IQ
YourChilds.IQ
Darth VaderAteMy.IQ
AllYourBaseAreBelongTo.IQ
ItPaysTo IncreaseYour.IQ

Someone oughtta talk to Mensa, seriously ;-0

Yah, this is SUPER IMPORTANT for Iraq. (1)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703056)

The Iraqi people have been living without adequate food and water under an oppressive regime for the past 20 years.

Apparently, they've also been living without adequate access to online pornography, too.

We'll wait for someone else to fix those first two things.

- A.P.

Salem Pax (1)

limekiller4 (451497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703061)

Speaking of which, anyone have any info on the whereabouts of Salem Pax?

Re:Salem Pax (1)

Joe the Lesser (533425) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703104)

If he's still alive, he's probably in Baghdad waiting for the war to end. It will be interesting to see if he ever posts in his blog again.

Sure, but what are we going to put down? (1)

Slime-dogg (120473) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703063)

I see Iraq as a great oppurtunity to experiment. You've got this large area of land that isn't infected with shitty phone lines, yet full of people that could use the internet. I'd say lay plans for an extensive cable network, or perhaps try out a wireless mesh / hive method.

After that, at least one country is not going to be held back by crappy monopolies, technology-wise at least. It'd be great to point at Iraq and say, "See, this works. We should do this." At the same time, the Iraqi people are gonna have a piping fast internet connection, or at least one that can handle a load of 20 million people hitting the porn sites all at once.

big oppurtunity (1)

abhisarda (638576) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703067)

The oppurtunity after the situation stabilizes is great. In Afghanisthan a man with a 10,000 $ investment made 500,000 $ in a matter of 6-8 months buying property and selling it.
Trying to fund the reconstruction through this effort is fine but one has to be aware that there are also chances that domain name squatters will take over.

give them dignity? (2, Interesting)

dAzED1 (33635) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703072)

as someone mentioned, they have lots of oil. Its very easy to get from the ground there (as compared to oil in texas, alaska, etc) and Iraqi oil is even very low in sulphites as compared to its neighboring countries, making it very cheap to refine.

They don't need our money to build an isp or some such thing. There really are, you know, more important things than the internet. They need food, medicine, and a little help rebuilding a government. Once that's done, they need to be left alone, and they need us as far away from them as possible. And I say that, having been in support of our actions from even before we started ;)

odd (0, Flamebait)

GoatPigSheep (525460) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703081)

If the USA is "rebuilding" Iraq, shouldn't they be the ones funding the rebuilding of it's internet? Or is all the money simply going to go to rebuilding the oil wells?

i went to war... (5, Funny)

u19925 (613350) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703083)

i went to war to "liberate" iraqis, and all I got was this lousy.iq

Won't work (5, Insightful)

LowneWulf (210110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703086)

Doesn't rebuilding the Internet in Iraq require other critical resources first?

You know.... like ELECTRICITY?

Seriously, this is pathetic! Basically some company trying to profit off selling country code domain names to sites not in the country, while there's still too much chaos for anyone inside the country to take notice!

Re:Won't work (1)

r00zky (622648) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703190)

yea, just what we need, another company trying to profit... just like the UK and US gov's

OK, whatever... (3, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703091)

the article does make me wonder: Should geeks around the world take the lead in getting Iraq back online?

You're asking one of two questions:

Q) "I'm planning to do something to help rebuild Iraq's communications. Is that a good idea?"

A)That's great! Bless you!

Q) "Should "we" / "the community" / hackers / geeks do something to help rebuild Iraq's communications?"

A) Uhhh, sure. Go open a Sourceforge project.

Re: .iq domains -- I can see high.iq and low.iq going, and probably sex.iq. I suspect oil is going to continue to drive their economy, though.

The Extension... (1)

CyborgWarrior (633205) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703093)

.IQ... No, not for Iraq. Maybe like a .NEWB

I agree (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703095)

Get them food & water first. And maybe turn the electricity back on first. Those a bit more critical, don't you think?

If you're hot on helping a country up on the net how about helping out the folks in Afghanistan? You all remember them? Maybe you could help with efforts like this [cnn.com] ? A little more practical right now I think.

Speaking of low IQs... Looks at the trolls! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703114)

Trolling /. is dead! Maybe you morons should try the morons at some easy places like here [fark.com] , here [yahoo.com] , here [bluesnews.com] , or here [penny-arcade.com]

One man's Troll is another man's treasure! (-1, Offtopic)

Sophrosyne (630428) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703183)

One man's Troll is another man's treasure!

Is low.iq taken? (1)

Demon-Xanth (100910) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703123)

Because I could make it the next Darwin Awards and Computer Stupidities site. And bash.org, LOOK OUT!

Right (2, Insightful)

The Bungi (221687) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703125)

The war has left Iraq's Internet infrastructure in shambles

Because it was so absolutely fantastic even before the first cruise missile was launched at Baghdad.

Typical leftie FUD.

Just like Afghanistan, except that over there at least they managed to dig out their C64's and connect over a 2400 baud modem and email Katz with alacrity.

In any case, I'm sure Iraq has bigger problems right now, like, oh, food and water.

G dub says ... (1)

didjit (34494) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703132)

why don't we give the contract to Halliburton.

This is more about $$$ for a Bitish company (1)

lysium (644252) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703138)

1. Sell .iq domains (incidentally making fistfuls of money) 2. ??? 3. Rebuild the Iraq infastructure

Re:This is more about $$$ for a Bitish company (1)

The Bungi (221687) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703173)

4. Learn how to use HTML.

Should yiou take the lead (2, Insightful)

StrawberryFrog (67065) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703146)

Should geeks around the world take the lead in getting Iraq back online

Before Gulf war 1 Iraq wasn't that badly off. 2 episodes of having the stuffing knocked out of them by the USA, with a decade of brutal sanctions in-between have reduced them to poverty. I'd say that the USA owes the ordinary people of Iraq big time.

Is food, water, electricity, abcense of falling bombs and no armed bandits or looters more important? Well duh. But if and when you get past rebuilding those, the Internet is a marvelous communications mechanism. Communications aid free speech and democracy, or so I'm told.

We need to stop the profiteering (5, Insightful)

JoeBuck (7947) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703148)

If people in the US and the UK value their lives, they will resist the impulse to try to turn Iraq into a colony that is run for corporate profit. (And yes, that's what this is, even though these guys are masquerading as a charity: they intend to take a cut from selling the "high.iq" domain). Iraq's domain namespace belongs to the Iraqi people, not to a clever British IT consultancy. Similarly, the decision as to whether to deploy GSM or CDMA belongs to the future Iraqi government, not to a congressman in the pocket of Qualcomm [internetnews.com] . Next, we'll see a bunch of Midwestern farmers clamor to get the government to buy up their grain and dump it on Iraq, thereby setting back efforts to rebuild Iraqi agriculture (which employs far more Iraqis than the oil industry does).

We're now at a tipping point: we can either insist that Iraq be run in the interest of Iraqis, or we can allow it to be taken over by a bunch of cronies and lobbyists. If the latter happens, we'll generate so much hate that it will be unsafe for Americans and Brits to travel abroad.

AOL (1)

Sophrosyne (630428) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703152)

This is the perfect opportunity to allow AOL to try and get a monopoly in a new market!
...Of course it can't be called AOL... because the A stands for America, and we don't want to give the impression that we're colonizing the place
and well.. IOL (Iraq Online),,, might offend others who have connote the word Iraq with Saddam...
Well perhaps we could just tear something down and put it on ebay!

The Geek Cross (2, Interesting)

Zapateria (597451) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703154)

Why can't we set up kind of a geeky Red Cross to deliver free or heavily subsidised computer equipment and internet connections to war torn countries?

Surely it would go a long way to helping such countries as Iraq get back on their feet.

Why not (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703159)

Sure. Lets take my tax dollars, or maybe even create a new Internet tax, so we can use the money to get high speed Internet to the mud huts in the nation with the world's second largest oil reserves. After all, there are plenty of looters there that want to be able to sell the stuff they snatched on e-bay.

Of course, we have yet to see how things will turn out there, and with the power vacuum it might well turn out that the people put in place a lunatic like they did in Iran, but that's certainly no reason for us to be cautious before we give them plenty of things that many U.S. communities don't even have yet. Lets take from our own people and give to the people that hate us, just look at how well that has served us throughout the world.

But don't just go by my opinion, ask our good friends the French.

Where is Salam Pax? (1)

Bingo Foo (179380) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703160)

Anybody heard of the Iraqi blogger since the end of March?

The .iq TLD.. (5, Insightful)

molo (94384) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703170)

The .iq TLD should belong to the people of Iraq. They should have the final say as to who gets access to it. Selling it off like .tv and .cx today would basicly mean that this ISP is taking advantage of these people because their government is in shambles. Shame on them.

-molo

Let them do it (2, Insightful)

gclef (96311) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703171)

Why should "geeks around the world" take the lead on this? Why shouldn't we let the Iraqis do this? Granted, the present owner is having issues...one of the technical contacts for .iq is presently being held by the feds for contact with Hamas, but I really think that this would be better handled by the Iraqis themselves.
If they want help, we should absolutely offer it, but I don't like the implied statement of "Let's take this thing of the Iraqis, make something that we think is cool out of it, and then claim we're helping them with it."

Best URL for this idea (0, Redundant)

Tux2000 (523259) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703177)

http://www.zero.iq/

Yes, my preciousssss ...
/me needsssssss internet real sssssssssssssoon ....

... in an area where children die from drinking water from the local river. Get the "life support" infrastructure back to "up and running" state, then think about getting the internet up.

I've got a few .iq names to auction off... (2)

lhbtubajon (469284) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703178)

mcdonalds.iq, yahoo.iq, and amazon.iq

Shall we start the bidding at $1 million each?

Bigger fish... (0, Redundant)

billmaly (212308) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703179)

Iraq has bigger problems then internet access right now. Supplying food, water, and safe waste disposal to all citizens is of greater importance than internet access.

Starting a working, democratic government is more important than internet access.

Punishing the thugs who helped keep the country under Hussein's thumb is more important than internet access.

Ensuring the life and liberty of all Iraqi's is more imporatant than internet access.

Once all these have been put into place AND guaranteed against the oppressive forces that are at work in the world, especialy the Arab world, come talk to me about internet in Iraq. Until then, the internet is a luxury that the average Iraqi doesn't NEED right now.

Thus endeth my rant.

my donation (1)

y2dt (184562) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703181)

"Should geeks around the world take the lead in getting Iraq back online?"

i'll donate a few copies of RedHat

Spam from iraq (1)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703186)

Is it important for your child to succed in life?
Want to raise your childs IQ?

Visit http://raiseyourchilds.iq/?2lj0398lkj4f2nhni2o3f23 hf02

180.iq (1)

IronTek (153138) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703187)

...The one way for Slashdot Trolls to up their IQ past 20.

Come on...PRIORITIES! (0, Redundant)

SamMichaels (213605) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703195)

Incase the British didn't see the news lately, a war is still going on. Furthermore, the LAST thing the Iraqi people are concerned about is internet access...how many of them own computers capable of even getting on the internet? How many of them can AFFORD it?

If you're speaking about getting the (new) government online, fine. That can help to speed up the re-urbanization project. But seriously...Iraqi people have to worry about being blown up by the US, British, terrorists, Iraq's former government, yet still earn a living to pay for basic living requirements. They don't rely on the internet like we do.

Oh wait..we can market the domains to other countries...to hell with getting the Iraqi people online. We're damned determinated to make money off this war.

Umm, maybe I'm paranoid but I find this disturbing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5703197)

"Under the CITRI plan, dot-iq domains would be available at a reduced price for Internet users in Iraq."

Okay, so basically this organization is putting up Iraqi real estate up for sale to the world and offering a discount to the Iraqi people who want to buy THEIR OWN RIGHTFUL domains. And Iraq's new government benfits from this how?

"Meanwhile, the U.S. government's plans for repairing Iraq's IT infrastructure are still unclear."

I don't know about you, but this to me reafirms my belief that the US went in to get Iraq's oil. This talk about rebuilding, and selling things off sounds like a conqueror to me.

Girls Girls Girls! (0)

nxs212 (303580) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703198)

Please restore the Internet in Iraq asap! I can't get enough of those iraqi webcam girls, clad in burkas, revealing their hairy legs.

Perhaps (1)

reelbk (213809) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703199)

If American, British, and Aussie geeks formed a coalition and ...

Datacenter capital of the world? (4, Funny)

peterdaly (123554) | more than 11 years ago | (#5703200)

Would make for great datacenters. Does any other place in the world have a higher density of nuclear resistant underground bunkers?

I am sure the US bunker buster bombs didn't get them all.

-Pete
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