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Could Doom 3 be a Xbox Exclusive?

CmdrTaco posted about 11 years ago | from the they-did-it-to-doa dept.

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acehole writes "Doom III, id's latest and greatest in the realm of first-person shooters, may be coming out as an Xbox exclusive... if Microsoft has its way." This story is very brief, has no real evidence, and should be treated as entirely speculative. I'd be sad if Doom 3 required me to use the X-Box's controller. It's just not right without a mouse!

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Id would never do that (2, Insightful)

Progman3K (515744) | about 11 years ago | (#5720974)

I am sure Id will make it available for other platforms.

Re:Id would never do that (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5720987)

Well... It would atleast live up to it's name

I agree with you (2, Interesting)

RolandGunslinger (597069) | about 11 years ago | (#5721087)

It's quite obvious where Id's market lies...not with Microsoft products...I don't think this posting was necessary on Slashdot, it insults the reader's intelligence.

Re:I agree with you (4, Insightful)

saden1 (581102) | about 11 years ago | (#5721113)

If Microsoft splashes enough money id would bite. Like everyone id has it's price. When money comes into play everyone is a whore.

Re:Id would never do that (1)

rf0 (159958) | about 11 years ago | (#5721089)

I will say ID is cool as for example releasing the source code for doom. At least count I know you could get Doom for PC/PS-One/Gameboy and also Symbian phones. One way or another we will all see Doom III at some point :)

Rus

Re:Id would never do that (4, Insightful)

Hangtime (19526) | about 11 years ago | (#5721090)

Don't be too sure. id knows how powerful its games are in the computer world. When a new game is released Doom, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, a mini-worldwide upgrade in hardware generally comes as well. I got to talk with Todd Hollenshead one time and he seems like a pretty shrewd dude in terms of business. They will weigh the pros and cons of only releasing to one console platform and it come out a little something like this.

((Total Projected Sales of units between each of the other consoles) * 25%??? exclusivitiy bonus for the XBox) - (Development Costs to Port to other systems)

If MS is offering more then that then they probably do it. id is powerful enough to demand that sort of deal and MSFT is rich and desperate enough to make that kind of deal. Guarantee you they hit a number like that, they would make it an X-Box exclusive.

AN xbox exclusive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721150)

Sheesh, do people here know how to speak American? It's not "a xbox" it's "an xbox".

Well... (4, Insightful)

0x0d0a (568518) | about 11 years ago | (#5721167)

Keep in mind that Microsoft has a long and rich tradition of buying anyone that makes better products than they do that they can't otherwise quash.

Remember Bungie, once pretty much the only significant Mac-only gaming company?

IIRC, id is a privately-owned company, but what if *you* were Carmack and MS offered to fund *your* rocket-making experiment, plus more Ferraris? Would you at least consider an exclusive license on one game?

I mean, here's what I'm saying. Carmack is a really damn good software engineer, and id is a really good company. Carmack's done tons and tons of work for Linux and other platforms -- he's been a powerful OpenGL ally, he's pushed Linux gaming, wrote large portions of the XFree86 GLX 3d driver for my Matrox card as volunteer work, has released all his games crossplatform (and I think id has consistently lost money on Linux releases). Lots of interest in Linux gaming came about *because* of his work, so he's indirectly responsible for much Linux gaming.

Yet, does him doing all this justify everyone expecting him to say no to lots of money *again*?

hmm (5, Informative)

abhisarda (638576) | about 11 years ago | (#5720984)

Where Is Doom III Going?
07-APR-03
An article in the current issue of Wired magazine confirms what a lot of gamers were suspecting already: Microsoft is actively courting id Software for the exclusive console rights to Doom III. According to the article--a feature on current developments in the jaw-dropping PC FPS--the company behind the Xbox is offering an undisclosed amount of money to id in exchange for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)
The folks at id reportedly haven't made a decision on the matter yet--it seems a reasonable enough assumption (lead programmer John Carmack has made comments in the past that seem to show a preference for the Xbox), but we'll see how it turns out. The PC game will likely be playable at the Electronic Entertainment Expo next month in Los Angeles.

The Wired article also had one more interesting bit on the PC version: in addition to the multiplayer expansion pack Carmack hinted at earlier, plans are also in the works for a new single-player expansion pack, due to be released some time after the final product hits stores. We'll have more details for you soon, so stay tuned.

Re:hmm (4, Informative)

los furtive (232491) | about 11 years ago | (#5721092)

An article in the current issue of Wired magazine confirms what a lot of gamers were suspecting already: Microsoft is actively courting id Software for the exclusive console rights to Doom III.

That's what I figured. Thanks /. for getting peoples panties in a knot for nothing.

Well... (1, Insightful)

ealar dlanvuli (523604) | about 11 years ago | (#5720986)

Considering how much manpower has already been "wasted" getting the game tested on various systems, it would rather shock me if they threw it all away and optimized for the X-Box only.

Just my 2cp

RTA (4, Insightful)

Arker (91948) | about 11 years ago | (#5721072)

Don't trust the slashdot editors, they usually screw it up. If you RTA, which in this case takes only a few seconds, you'll see that the rumour is only that it will be available on X-Box and no other *consoles* - the deal MS is supposedly offering concerns exclusivity in the console market and nothing else. And if the rumour is true, it's basically free money for id, since they were not planning to port it to any other consoles anyway.

Does this seem weird? (0, Redundant)

villain170 (664238) | about 11 years ago | (#5720988)

the company behind the Xbox is offering an undisclosed amount of money to id in exchange for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned.

Does this rub anyone the wrong way? It seems like they're trying to buy people out in exchange for control of the market.

Re:Does this seem weird? No (4, Insightful)

Erwos (553607) | about 11 years ago | (#5721085)

I hardly see anything wrong with buying exclusive rights for games and development houses in order to make your console more attractive to the consumer. Nintendo did this (bought Rare), and I thought Sony did something similar with Square. This is hardly new behavior, and there's nothing inherently wrong with this. See it as a method of adding value by buying rights to things.

If you want Doom3 on a console, you'll have to buy an Xbox. That's the plan. It's not monopolistic, nor is it morally wrong. It's just a good way of doing business.

-Erwos

Re:Does this seem weird? (1)

djwavelength (398555) | about 11 years ago | (#5721093)

its nothing that hasnt been done by every other major corporation since the dawn of marketing.

look at the exclusive movie toy deals at fast food places, or the sports star who only wears one brand of tennis shoes...

Re:Does this seem weird? (2, Interesting)

Techiegeeks (643964) | about 11 years ago | (#5721095)

Sony did that with GTA3. Bought the exclusive console rights. No one seems to have a problem with that.

Re:Does this seem weird? (3, Interesting)

villain170 (664238) | about 11 years ago | (#5721108)

If you own an Xbox, you do. :)

It just seems like saying that companies have done it in the past isn't a good argument of why it should be allowed. Just because something is the way it is doesn't make it right or proper even if it is good business practice.

I guess we should just let Microsoft be and buy up all the companies and rights that they want to.

Read the article (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5720989)

It's coming to PC no matter what, this is just for exclusivity on consoles. Perhaps you should have read the article...

RTFA -- Console exclusive only (2, Redundant)

SeanTobin (138474) | about 11 years ago | (#5720990)

These are in regards to console rights only. Doom 3 will of course be released on the pc. You will be able to play it with your mouse. Sheesh.

Re:RTFA -- Console exclusive only (3, Insightful)

SecretMethod70 (569755) | about 11 years ago | (#5721114)

I feel terrible having to say this, as I have long given the slashdot editors the benefit of the doubt, but CmdrTaco's comment here about using the mouse just goes to prove that they don't even read the articles that they're posting. It was said numerous times, as the poster above pointed out, that it would still be out for PC, and if the article was read before being posted on slashdot, CmdrTaco's comment would not be as it is now. I've lost a lot of confidence in this site today. That said, it'd be terrible if Doom III came out for XBox only as far as console is concerned. Still, how many people actually play FPS games on console compared to PC? I don't think it would be a drastic thing.

Re:RTFA -- Console exclusive only (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721171)

Ah.. *sigh*

Time to add one of those little "Update: We just RTFA and noticed this doesn't have anything to do with computers, but only which consoles the game will be released for." :-P

Troll bait (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5720991)

..."for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)"

weak.

Arrgh (2, Insightful)

luna1ix (549450) | about 11 years ago | (#5720993)

the company behind the Xbox is offering an undisclosed amount of money to id in exchange for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.) Please! At least the Submitters should read their stories!

Rumors for Nerds? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5720995)

So this story is purely speculative, no evidence backing it up...and you post it?

truly idiotic.

Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5720996)

It says right in the first part that they're talking about console exclusiveness! My god, I expect the readers not to look at the articles, but the editors should at least glance at them before shooting off their mouths.

I don't think so (1, Insightful)

Morgahastu (522162) | about 11 years ago | (#5720997)

ID makes most (see: insane ammounts) of their money from licensing their engine for other games. There is no way in hell they are going to make it an xbox only engine. And even if they released the engine on other platforms they need Doom 3 as the benchmark for what it can do.

Doom 3 _will_ come out for the PC.

Sure, just like Halo (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721129)

I'm sure Doom3 will come out for the PC. But if Monopolysoft gets it as an X-Box "exclusive", will the PC version be released after a long delay, just like Halo?

Personally I don't think Carmack would allow that to happen. Microsoft on the other hand, would LOVE for that to happen..

Re:I don't think so (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721133)

Since it says that in the article, I'd guess you might be right. Oh wait, you didn't read the article, did you? It was TWO FUCKING PARAGRAPHS!

Retard.

Article heading inaccurate (0, Redundant)

Jsprat23 (148634) | about 11 years ago | (#5720998)

While the article is speculative, it does say exclusive CONSOLE rights not simply exclusive rights.

Not Xbox exclusive! (4, Informative)

Galvatron (115029) | about 11 years ago | (#5720999)

All Microsoft is negotiating for are the exclusive console rights. Dooom 3 will still be on PC, it's just that the Xbox may be the only console it's released for. In fact, the article specifically mentions that 2 expansion packs are planned for the PC version.

This makes a lot of sense, as the Xbox is the most like a PC of the 3 consoles. It won't take as much work for id to port, and if Microsoft is willing to pay them a bunch of money on top of that, all the better.

Very misleading writeup. (2, Insightful)

poulbailey (231304) | about 11 years ago | (#5721001)

They want XBox to be the only console that gets DoomIII. It would still be available for the PC. It plainly says so in the article.

why bother posting this? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721003)

a paragraph of conjecture doubtless followed by several hundred comments of conjecture. congratulations taco, you are a journalist of the first order.

Arg. (1)

taraturg (649089) | about 11 years ago | (#5721004)

Please see this HomeLanFed article: http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=13306 "Microsoft is offering lots of money to id to make an exclusive Doom III Xbox port (id hasn't decided yet if they will do so)" X-Box exclusive port. From the PC. The articles say nothing about the game being exclusively on the X-Box. The articles only mention id may only port to the X-Box, rather than multiple consoles. Just think that should be clarified. That's how I read it anyway. I could be wrong.

Do you people even bother to read the articles? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721005)

...the company behind the Xbox is offering an undisclosed amount of money to id in exchange for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)

Nice! (1)

phocuz (445317) | about 11 years ago | (#5721008)

I think it would be absolutely fabulous! I have way too many games to play atm as it is, so one less would probably allow me to actually make some of the tests I have coming up.

Go Microsoft!!

If it does happen, I won't buy it (-1, Insightful)

TheLinuxWarrior (240496) | about 11 years ago | (#5721009)

Because I simply refuse to buy an XBox.

So if they do make it exclusive, that's one more potenial customer that they'll lose.

Any of you guys (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721010)

ever suck a dog's dick? Because there's this really hot golden retriever that lives just down the street...

Would that be wrong? I mean, he'd probably enjoy it, right?

Man, I really want to suck that dog's dick!

Re:Any of you guys (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721139)

What's it take to get an answer to an honest question around here? Would the world really be so much worse off with one more happy guy, and one less horny dog? (I mean of course, that the dog would no longer be as horny, not that it would be gone. I would never hurt that beautiful thing.)

You mods should be using your mod points on some of the many idiots in this thread who keep saying, over and over, "it'll be a CONSOLE exclusive!!!!" Once is plenty. Let me and my heart-felt plea get some of the attention we deserve, goddammit. Or are you mods just so greedy that you want to keep all the doggy to yourselves?

Xbox Exclusive? (1)

DarkBlack (5773) | about 11 years ago | (#5721013)

The article even reads "excluseive console rights". It will most definitely come out for Microsoft Windows and probably Linux as well. As for XBox only in the console world, if I get Doom III for a PC, I woul not be wanting a console version as well. Especially not an XBox version as I will not touch the monstrosity.

Xbox Engine (1)

Morgahastu (522162) | about 11 years ago | (#5721014)

Carmack is known for making state of the art 3d engines. I don't think he would meet his reputation by just porting over an PC engine to a console.

He is more the type to build an engine specifically for that hardware to make sure its as good as possible.

Microsoft, ID, PCs, and Everything (0)

aflat362 (601039) | about 11 years ago | (#5721015)

Microsoft is actively courting id Software for the exclusive console rights to Doom III


Translation: Microsoft is trying to purchase ID Software


Doom 3 is all about the PC . . . *ahem* I mean the Windows PC.

Re:Microsoft, ID, PCs, and Everything (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721154)

Why not reterm that and call it the "Microsoft PC". That way it applies to the Xbox (the faux pc)

Re:Microsoft, ID, PCs, and Everything (1)

norwoodites (226775) | about 11 years ago | (#5721178)

You forgot that John Carmack likes NeXTStep ^w^wMac OS X. The Doom map editor first ran on a NeXT Box.

Did the SUBMITTER RTFA? (1, Redundant)

loucura! (247834) | about 11 years ago | (#5721018)

It says quite plainly, that Microsoft is courting ID software for exclusive CONSOLE rights. It goes further to say that the PC version is likely going to be playable at the E3 exposition next month.

Jeez... never thought I'd see the day when a story submitter didn't read the article. Then again... this is /.

April Fools!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721021)

it's a little late, but still pretty good.

Missed it in the first paragraph (1, Redundant)

Mattygfunk1 (596840) | about 11 years ago | (#5721024)

Summary: I'd be sad if Doom 3 required me to use the X-Box's controller. It's just not right without a mouse!

Article: the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)

Taco as you said the article is brief, you should have found it. Not reading the comments is one thing, not reading the _articles_ is the reason for the incredible amount of dupes here.

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It won't even run on it (1)

brad_brown (665617) | about 11 years ago | (#5721028)

Doom 3 probably will barely run on my P4 2.4 GHz. I really doubt it will run at all on the Xbox, being its only 733 MHz, with an older (now) video card. Someone's logic is failing here!

Re:It won't even run on it (0)

PowerMacG4 (575064) | about 11 years ago | (#5721065)

Well, the X-Box can run at a very low resolution and with lower resolution textures, so you probably wouldn't notice any slowness.

Re:It won't even run on it (5, Insightful)

Erwos (553607) | about 11 years ago | (#5721106)

Considering that John Carmack wrote a ways back that the XBox probably _did_ have the hardware to handle Doom3, albeit cut down a touch, I don't really see your theory having much support in reality.

Remember, the console only has to run it at 640x480, no AA, and on only one set of hardware. Hand-tweaked assembly isn't going to happen for each computer platform, but I certainly could see it for a single console. How the leaked Doom3 alpha runs on your P4 2.4ghz is not really a good measure of how the final version might run on an XBox (or PC, for that matter).

-Erwos

But that's the point (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721148)

Why would ID Software want to showcase their crown jewel in a "cut down, reduced" fashion? Why work so hard on pushing the limits if you have to turn half the good stuff on just so Microsoft's PC-in-a-box can run it?

The ONLY platform that can show Doom3 the way it is meant to be played is the PC. ID would sell themselves short by allowing Microsoft to pull a Halo with Doom3.

Hell just might g cold (1)

bsdadmin99 (637284) | about 11 years ago | (#5721029)

It all depends on how much money Microsoft have and how much ID are willing to screw their loyal gamers. If they can lower their prices to pc equivalent and include an XBOX, I just might be in :)

Could other consoles handle it? (2, Insightful)

PinkoHeretic (665616) | about 11 years ago | (#5721032)

I wouldn't believe for a minute that the PS2 could handle graphics anything like what Doom III is supposed to have. That even the XBox can handle it without significantly reducing the detail would supprise me. So MS is trying to keep Nintendo from producing a crippled port of their own. We care again...why?

Re:Could other consoles handle it? (1)

emotionus (657937) | about 11 years ago | (#5721098)

I belive in one of carmacks .plan updates he said he had Doom III running on an xbox.

Re:Could other consoles handle it? (2, Insightful)

emotionus (657937) | about 11 years ago | (#5721126)

Sorry, it seems to be he (Carmack) said it at Quakecon. "Carmack confirmed DOOM III is on its way to Xbox. The development of the Xbox version won't start untill the PC version is out and he also said that DOOM III for the Xbox will feature sound hardware acceleration, which the PC version lacks." http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=3572

I don't think so (2, Informative)

MoZ-RedShirt (192423) | about 11 years ago | (#5721037)

1) No Mouse
2) No Keyboard
3) Slow GFX Chip
4) Slow CPU
5) No Hires GFX

If it comes out for xbox it will have nothing to do with the alpha version we have seen ... errr .. heared of.

RedShirt

UHHHH, will the XBOX be able to even RUN Doom III (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721040)

With all of the hoopla of even DOOM III running quasi-o.k. ONLY on the fastest rigs with geforcefx, how can they possilbly convert DOOM III and make it look better than Unreal Tournament 2002. Also, the post on Slashdot is VERY misleading. It suggests that DOOM III was going to be pulled from release (a la HALO) and only on the XBOX. DOOM III has only a slim chance of Running on the XBOX anyway, so no need for "exclusives."

Re:UHHHH, will the XBOX be able to even RUN Doom I (1)

Ishkibble (581826) | about 11 years ago | (#5721105)

Doom III can run on a pretty shitty system pretty good. i got the alpha version of it. i turn off AA, and OC my card from 250/400 to 275/450. my system specs are AMD XP 1700+ OCed to 1.5, 512 MB DDR 266, (2) 40 GB HDs, GeForce 2TI, and a Sound blaster audigty. i run it at 800X600, 16 bit color, and everything else set to low or mid. i get a frame rate of about 25 AVG

Re:UHHHH, will the XBOX be able to even RUN Doom I (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721117)

fuck unreal tournament 2003, try using the gforce fx on unreal 2, i have had that game for about 2 weeks now and, uh, yeah ut cannot hold a candle to unreal. so quit using ut2k3 as a bench mark because it is a much easier game to render than unreal. same with q3, those types of games are easier to do because the maps are smaller. seriously try the gforcefx with unreal and you will see that card become a 400 dollar paper weight

Console (1)

rf0 (159958) | about 11 years ago | (#5721044)

This is an exclusive for *console* only. However even if was just for X-BOX you don't think MS would stop it being released on PC? Theoretically porting from X-BOX should be relatively easily taking the use of DirectX etc.

However the PC is the real home of Doom. You need a mouse and keyboard for full control. Also with the easy online access is really needed for he online multiplayer expirence

Rus

Xbox console exclusive != Xbox only (4, Informative)

CaseyB (1105) | about 11 years ago | (#5721045)

"Console Exclusive" is the term used in the industry for excluding other consoles from a game. It doesn't include the PC. GTA3 is "console exclusive" on the PS2, and but there is a PC version.

It may well be the technology that dictates where DOOM3 can play, as it's going to be very dependent on hardware pixel and vertex shaders. It could likely only make it to Gamecube and Xbox anyway, unless they cripple the engine just to get it running on PS2.

No way.. (1)

ewhenn (647989) | about 11 years ago | (#5721050)

Cant be true, two reasons.

Doom stated on the PC, it is only logical, taht with such a huge fan base using the PC platform to release it for the PC first. Woul not make good business sense not to.

Second why would they go through all the R&D of making a PC Alpha (I have seen it) and then scrap it?

Re:No way.. (1)

anon*127.0.0.1 (637224) | about 11 years ago | (#5721134)

Sure it can. It all depends on how much money Microsoft is willing to throw at iD. If we're talking billions, then it suddenly makes very good business sense to scrap all that R&D and make Doom 3 an XBox only game.

I don't think it's going to happen, but what if MS goes to Id and says "How much money do you want to make D3 an Xbox exculsive", and Id quotes them an outrageous figure, and MS writes out the check?

[OT] why is kdemultimedia so shit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721051)

There is kplayer, an emerging KDE frontend to mplayer, which actually plays formats that people use, but that' snot included in kdemultimedia. Meanwhile, there are about 85 different mediaplayers in the kdemultimedia package, none of which play anything except MP3, and even then you'll be thanking the bit-gods if you've reached the end of an album without a crash.

Submitters, please read the article (1)

azzy (86427) | about 11 years ago | (#5721054)

Article: It'll still come out on the PC, of course.
Submitter: I'd be sad if Doom 3 required me to use the X-Box's controller.

Me: Read the article!! It will still come out on the PC, so you won't need to use the xbox controller... sheesh...

Re:Submitters, please read the article (1)

gmhowell (26755) | about 11 years ago | (#5721122)

Actually, it was CmdrTaco who added the dipshit comment about the XBox controller. Submitter words are italics, dipshit editors are straight text.

Privilege (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721056)

It would be a privilige for ID to be granted the opportunity to release this game solely for the X-Box.

No doubt, the slashdot herd cannot appreciate that consoles are the only true gaming platform.

I cannot bring myself to imagine the tormet that the poor, deluded members of the slashdot status-quo must feel with every successful venture that a true American company like Microsoft carries out. It concerns me how such a mass of people can delude themselves into these diabolical liberal ideals; that Linux is a viable platform for gaming, that Microsoft is doomed to failure.

It is a miracle that the PC is considered a worthwhile platform at all. Microsoft has repeatedly proved, with subsequant, painstakingly revised releases of their operating system, that the PC is an unsuitable, unreliable peice of equipment to perform any reasonable computing task.

J.M. Tennant

Did you fuckheads try reading the article? (5, Informative)

abelsson (21706) | about 11 years ago | (#5721059)

It talks about *console* version only being for the xbox and even says: "It'd still come out on the PC, of course."

Hey, I got a novel idea: How about if the editors acctually read the linked article before they post stories?

Re:Did you fuckheads try reading the article? (1)

BenjyD (316700) | about 11 years ago | (#5721099)

I guess his only excuse is that it's not the easiest site to read - dark grey on black, plus a truncated message in pop-up saying "we haven't tested our site on your browser. Javascript W...".

What is it with web designers these days? Light background, dark text is pretty much universal and easy to read (like, say, in these strange items called books ).

Hey there Taco. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721062)

Go back to posting dupes five times in the same day. At least you'd be good at that.

Still MS-Exclusive (1)

frdmfghtr (603968) | about 11 years ago | (#5721067)

Microsoft is actively courting id Software for the exclusive console rights to Doom III. According to the article--a feature on current developments in the jaw-dropping PC FPS--the company behind the Xbox is offering an undisclosed amount of money to id in exchange for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)

And just where does the OS on most PCs come from?

Yes, the article is short on facts and long on speculation...still, perhaps a more appropriate title would have been "Could Doom III be Microsoft Exclusive?"

Let's pretend for a moment that this really is going on behind the scenes. Does it make sense for id to create software for one console, when there are several choices out there? Microsoft would have to pony up a lot of cash to make up for lost revenue from other consoles, which we are all well aware that they can certainly do.

In a sense, Microsoft would be buying up a monopoly on Doom III. What did Microsoft get a vicious finger-waving from the DoJ for again? Oh yeah, abuse of monopoly power. If this is all going down as told, it appears that Microsoft DID in fact learn a good lesson from the anti-trust trials...the DoJ's bark is worse than its bite.

Re:Still MS-Exclusive (1)

Erwos (553607) | about 11 years ago | (#5721116)

"In a sense, Microsoft would be buying up a monopoly on Doom III."

And in a legal sense, this is not a monopoly. If Doom3 was the only game out there, you'd have an argument, but it's not. If MS had bought out all games' licenses, it would be a monopoly. They have not.

-Erwos

If this turns out to be true ... (2, Funny)

j1mmy (43634) | about 11 years ago | (#5721078)

... I will personally assassinate Bill Gates and firebomb the entire campus at One Microsoft Way.

HELLO! are you all stupid??!! (1)

Ishkibble (581826) | about 11 years ago | (#5721082)

ofcourse it's goign to be for PC. you can pre order the fucking game from Best Buy [bestbuy.com] and it even says Platform: PC

wait a sec (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721100)

if this was in wired first, why not just link to the wired article? why are getting our news from gamepro? cmon that magazine exits for 10 year olds. i would like to think that the poeple running /. are a little ahead of 10 year olds

The result (5, Funny)

handsomepete (561396) | about 11 years ago | (#5721104)

The result of such a move would be that hundreds of slashdotters would change their .sigs to:

Carmack: Bad (mostly due to giving exclusive Doom 3 rights to Microsoft)

It's the same thing Sony does. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721109)

Maybe they can cut a hostage deal so PS2 owners can get Doom III and I can get Grand Theft Auto for my X-Box

Huh...uh, huh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721127)

He said shooters.

This story was meant to be a April Fools Joke! (2, Interesting)

Utopia (149375) | about 11 years ago | (#5721131)

Too bad GamePro, Slashdot and other sites feel for it.



taco... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721132)

i think you should read the article first before you even read the submitters comments

This submission gives me an idea... (1)

EvilBuu (145749) | about 11 years ago | (#5721135)

Could we all start submitting stories with links to sites that have absolutely nothing to do with them, seeing as how the eds just seem to make sure the link points to something containing the right keywords? We could have our own April Fools whenever we wanted!

I'm more excited about the licensed games using Doom 3's engine than Doom 3. Also, as Warbucket [warbucket.com] pointed out [warbucket.com] , to get the "full" Doom 3 experience (legally), you're going to have to drop about a hundred bucks US. (Trust me, those links actually go to the right place.)

Anyone attend HRUMC X [skidmore.edu] yesterday? Just curious.

how about... (2, Funny)

hpavc (129350) | about 11 years ago | (#5721136)

1) sell (exclusively license) doom3 to microsoft
2) profit
3) change intro screen
4) release doom4
5) profit

A bit off-topic... (1)

RedshiftMD (664239) | about 11 years ago | (#5721141)

Anyone heard anything about a penguin-flavored version?

Re:A bit off-topic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721168)

Penguin flavoured? That's disgusting.

Anyway, I doubt it. Seems that it's going to be fairly DirectX 9 intensive. Look forward to having to wait until WineX ALMOST supports it (since it's rare that they ever run anything without problems).

PC-version will (of course) be published... (1)

Hakubi_Washu (594267) | about 11 years ago | (#5721142)

> (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)
is pretty straightforward to me... I guess the /. editors have once again proven themselves to be illiterate (Dammit Taco, why? :-)

id should take the deal (-1, Flamebait)

ericvids (227598) | about 11 years ago | (#5721145)

If it's only for the console rights, then id should take the deal. The game can't be ported to the Playstation 2 anyway (it doesn't have a stencil buffer, which Doom III requires for its shadow volumes). That leaves only the GameCube and XBox, and I highly doubt that Nintendo, with its reputation as a for-kids console maker, would like the idea of making Doom III (which is likely to be the goriest first-person shooter ever created) available on their console anyway.

Read the article(s) (1)

p0rnking (255997) | about 11 years ago | (#5721156)

#1 Which has been mentioned already, this is exclusive rights for the consoles ... not the PC

"Xbox is offering an undisclosed amount of money to id in exchange for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)"

Also, this is not something new, in fact Carmack has been basically saying that Doom III might only be available on XBox, after the PC version is released.

"At the annual QuakeCon gathering in Texas over the weekend, Id Software head John Carmack revealed that Doom III, the FPS to end all FPSes, will likely be ported to the Xbox after the final PC version is complete. The Xbox, according to Carmack, is the only console platform the company plans to release Doom upon; Carmack also said that the Xbox port will not lose out on any of the PC version's graphic effects."
http://www.gamepro.com/index.html?/game pro/domesti c/games/news/28843.shtml

Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721161)

...I'll not play Doom3 then :)

I find it interesting so many Slashdotter's care! (1)

King_TJ (85913) | about 11 years ago | (#5721164)

Hope this doesn't get tossed into "troll land", but I think it deserves pointing out.

Game consoles are entirely commercial endeavours, designed first and foremost to pry the maximum amount of money from your wallet for games played on them.

Whether you prefer Playstation 2, X-Box, Nintendo, or something else - I haven't seen any freeware or "try before you buy, $10 shareware" packages released for any of them.

Pretty much everything I've seen run on them could (and *usually* is) done about as well (if not better!) on a PC.

The obvious advantages game consoles have over computers are mostly convenience-releated. (EG. You can throw it on your big TV in the living room and boot a game right up in 10 seconds with no prior knowledge of operation, other than the power and "eject CD tray" buttons.)

If you want to pay their prices for the convenience, then great! I have no qualms with that. I just don't see why there would be any outcry (especially from *this* crowd) when a company like Microsoft tries to ensure a game title only comes out for their console?

I thought pretty much all of us interested in such concepts as "open source" or "shareware", or even "cross-platform availability" were using PCs!

Re:I find it interesting so many Slashdotter's car (1)

Mr. Grimm (599800) | about 11 years ago | (#5721180)

But you forget the numberone Slashdot rule: Microsoft is evil. They could spend money on helping a near extinct species regain it's numbers and be accused of wanting to raise said animal back to healh to use it in a super army to take over the world.

Mouse Non-Legacy (0)

R-66Y (150658) | about 11 years ago | (#5721169)

It's just not right without a mouse!

Neither of the first two Doom games used a mouse at all.

Later,
Patrick

Doom Nukem Forever 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5721175)

What was it, three years ago now? That Doom 3 was previewed at some APPLE expo introduction? The same time as the GeForce 3 (WOW! 3!)?

What have they been doing all this time? Trying to take good promotional photos of Carmack?

And I bet there won't even be an Apple release.

Once again... (1)

venomkid (624425) | about 11 years ago | (#5721176)

...we are reminided that slashdot is not a reliable news source. *sigh* how many people, do you think, will angrily email id software over your inaccuracy? how far do you think this rumor will spread?

the company behind the Xbox is offering an undisclosed amount of money to id in exchange for the right to make their latest game an Xbox-only title as far as consoles are concerned. (It'd still come out on the PC, of course.)

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