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Flaw Delays Shipment Of New 'Canterwood' Pentium 4

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the better-now-than-later dept.

Intel 196

bigal3du writes "Hardware-Unlimited has posted new information from Intel that they will be delaying the shipment of the new Pentium 4 3Ghz with an 800Mhz FSB. An Intel spokesman contacted Hardware-Unlimited early this morning to let the publication know that performance "anomolies" have been discovered, at the last minute, in validation testing and the processor will be temporarily delayed for shipment. Full details on Hardware-Unlimited.com Forums..." ninenet points to this PC Magazine article which explains the things that characterize the new chip and also mentions the delay.

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196 comments

Funny (4, Funny)

0x00000dcc (614432) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730516)

we start OUT the day telling us how cool the chip is, and END the day telling us the REAL story

Re:Funny (2, Funny)

mahdi13 (660205) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730618)

Intel chip delayed due to a flaw...like that never happens, suprised they didn't ship it anyway like with the PIII's

Oh wait...that was a 'feature'

When they do come out... (-1, Troll)

Can it run Linux (664464) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730715)

Will they run Linux?

Re:When they do come out... (1)

mahdi13 (660205) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730939)

Only if the "evil bit" is set 'false'

Re:Funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730959)

Hey moron, the articles are talking about different chips. Canterwood is the new northbridge, and it is just fine. The stepping of the P4 is having problems.

If this isn't the first post... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730518)

I'll wet my penis in gasoline and stick it into a live electric socket.

As always, links to pictures will be posted.

Re:If this isn't the first post... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730545)

Gonna be waiting for those pics...

Re:If this isn't the first post... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730660)

How will you know it's the same anonymous coward?

Re:If this isn't the first post... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730589)

You lose [slashdot.org] . With a penis that small it isn't much of a lose.

fr1st ps0t (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730519)

first one!

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730527)

holy shit, wasn't even trying

Re:FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730645)

next time try a little bit harder

Bah (4, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730538)


In 1980 I had a 1.023 MHz Apple ][+ and I could type ~70 WPM. Intel is pushing 3+ GHz chips and I can still only type ~70 WPM.

Re:Bah (4, Funny)

Carbonite (183181) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730561)

Hmmm... Perhaps these new words are a million time longer?

Re:Bah (1, Offtopic)

addaon (41825) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730599)

If nothing else, they use a million times more pixels. Apple //c vs. Apple 23" Cinema. My, how we've grown.

Re:Bah (1)

wik (10258) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730608)

Nope, the words went from 8-bit to 32-bit. Just a 4-fold increase.

Re:Bah (1)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730957)

Nope, the words went from 8-bit to 32-bit. Just a 4-fold increase.

Wait a second, I thought the words were the same, and they were just using more bits to represent them.....

Re:Bah (1)

Anime_Fan (636798) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730626)

Actually, 3GHz is 3002,933 times faster than 1,023 MHz... Not 1 million times faster.
Then again, it's new hyper threading vs. old well... Mac... Maybe it is 1 million times faster after all...
Or maybe the words grew more complex and thus it takes more time for the human mind to proofread anything that pops out from Office autocirrection schemas...

Re:Bah (3, Informative)

GreenHell (209242) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730709)

3 GHz = 3000 MHz.
3 GHz != 3096 MHz
Therefore
3000 Mhz / 1.023 MHz = 2932.551

MHz and GHz are base 10. Base 2 is for memory.

Re:Bah (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730988)

Actually, you are a idiot, pear-shaped, pizza-faced, no life loser nerd.

Learn some math, dumb butt.

Re:Bah (2, Interesting)

Jason1729 (561790) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730576)

Yes, but the rest of the processing power is to compensate for the extra OS overhead, so you still get the same snappy feel as you did with the II+.

You seem to be under the impression you need a faster processor so you can get things done faster. The real reason is so you can get things done just as fast without regressing :). It's like swimming upstream against a strong current.

Jason
ProfQuotes [profquotes.com]

Re:Bah (3, Funny)

evilviper (135110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730696)

And just how long have you been using Windows?

Re:Bah (2, Interesting)

Jason1729 (561790) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730740)

And just how long have you been using Windows?

Oh..Since 1993 or so. I've also been using Linux since 1995. Are you implying that Linux today is no more bloated than it was in 1995? Can I run Linux and a word processer on a 1MHz 6502 CPU? I had the SuperText word processor on my Apple; it had most of the major features a modern word processor has and it would run perfectly on that 6502 under ProDOS.

Jason
ProfQuotes [profquotes.com]

Re:Bah (1, Redundant)

lakeland (218447) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730941)

Linux was never written to run on the 6502. As I'm sure you're aware from '95, it was written to take advantage of the amazing memory management features just introduced in the 80386. As for bloat between 2.4.20 and the first kernels, yes bloat has increased. The most obvious examples are buffers have changed default sizes to the point a 386 wouldn't be able to fit them. But the bloat isn't significant (less than an order of magnitude) -- it would be very strange for someone to say "I'm not going to upgrade to 2.6 because my computer can only fit 2.4".

Re:Bah (5, Funny)

philovivero (321158) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730630)

In 1980, I had a TRS-80 CoCo where I could hold the "page-down" key and the text would fly by as fast as I could watch it.

Now I have a P4 2.4GHz machine, and when I hold down page-down, my whole machine grinds to a halt as my Rube Goldberg-like operating system tries to phone home to Microsoft about my text paging habits.

Re:Bah - mod him up funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730648)

Learn /.ers... this is good humour.

It's not lame formulaic moft bashing. it's genuine.

Re:Bah (1)

anarxia (651289) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730960)

Not to mention you could do a dir and read everyhing. Now we need pagers!

Re:Bah (1)

u19925 (613350) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730663)

grow up. we count clicks/second nowadays or is it ticks/second? whatever it is, 3 billion is the answer. WPM? I thought, we obsoleted those ugly English units in favor of French SI units. No, wait... I guess, again we are boycotting French units and adopting English units.

Re:Bah (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730676)

Get a better keyboard! [typematrix.com] It'll cost less than a new computer.

Hmm, unfortunately, their Dvorak-labeled version seems to be out of production. Well, the QUERTY version has a button to switch the keymapping. Just add some keyboard labels (for you non-touch-typists), and you are all set.

Re:Bah (1)

reinard (105934) | more than 11 years ago | (#5731047)

While the Dvorak(only)-labeled version is currently out of stock (not out of production.. they are just waiting on the factory), they do have a DUAL labeled version (ie both DVORAK and QWERTY labeled). All versions come with the ability to switch from DVORAK to QWERTY (and back), and if you have a version that only has either labeling, you can get a set of alphabet stickers with it for free that work very well.

And I can only second that getting this keyboard will help your aching fingers. I love it ;)

(disclaimer: yes, i do maintain their website... so i am associated with them. nevertheless i think it's a great keyboard. get one! [typematrix.com] )

Re:Bah (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730773)

In 1980 I had a 1.023 MHz Apple ][+ and I could type ~70 WPM. Intel is pushing 3+ GHz chips and I can still only type ~70 WPM.

Hmm ..

Have you tried Mavis Beacon Typing Tutor? It may help.

http://www.mavisbeacon.com/

Re:Bah (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730986)

Damn, that is a whack troll, bitch. You're a faggot, and most likely a loser as well.

Check out HardOCP (1)

Big_Breaker (190457) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730542)

People there are OCing their 2.4B Northwood SLRZ's to 3.6ghz/ 200mhz FSB on granite bay boards. All that is missing is Hyper Threading, but the 2.4B's only cost $160 and the boards... about $180.

Re:Check out HardOCP (1)

grub (11606) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730609)


All that is missing is Hyper Threading

The quad pumped 800 MHz bus is also missing..

Re:Check out HardOCP (1)

hawkbug (94280) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730631)

Actually, no. It's not. He said they oc'd the FSB to 200 mhz, and 200 x 4 = 800.

What they don't tell you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730863)

... is that only about one out of every three 2.4B's will actually run completely stable at 200MHz core FSB speed. 150 is easy, 166 is a bit harder to get, 200 is real hard. By the time you buy three 2.4B's (3*160=$480) you could have bought a real 3.06 GHz P4 ($475). It's a gamble.

BTW, anybody know where I can find any Socket 370 mobos (brand, model number) that support Tualatin Celerons and have at least three ISA slots? Yeah I said ISA slots. They're for a dos-based retail POS system at a chain of dry cleaner stores, and the old interface cards are ISA only... the old P233 computers are dropping like flies and I need to conjure up some replacement boxes to keep them going. So far I've found some Soyo mobos at Multiwave that support two ISA slots, but I need three: NIC, cash drawer card and bardcode scanner card. The POS software drives the network cards directly and only support old NE2000 ISA cards :-( or I'd be able to use the Soyo.

Gives us Mac users hope... (-1, Flamebait)

berniecase (20853) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730546)

Every little delay and fuckup brings us closer to catching up to Intel, clockspeed-wise.

Well, okay, we'll never catch up. Whatever.

Maybe No Glitch At All? (5, Interesting)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730553)

This comes from The Inquirer [theinquirer.net] . A wild rumor is that there's only a small glitch and in actuality Intel just doesn't have enough stock to make the shipment. Either way, it's not good news for Intel's stock. But which is worse? Running into a problem in testing OR miscalculating how many units you need? I say the miscalculation represents more of a fundamental problem whereas a snag in testing is to be expected.

Ah, here's the text:
"Japanese web site PC Watch today claimed that Intel has put a stop to general shipments of the Pentium 4 3GHz and 800MHz chipset products because of a glitch discovered during testing.

If the report is correct - and we've contact Intel for clarification - it's rather an embarrassing admission.

The Japanese site thinks that Intel is using a small glitch as an excuse and in actual fact the problem is a severe limitation in supplies of the chipset and CPU.

Intel's embargo on the Canterwood chipset, which uses the 800MHz front side bus expired just a few hours ago, and there are already dozens of reviews of the product all over the world wide wibble."

Re:Maybe No Glitch At All? (1)

beatniklew (623731) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730590)

On the other hand, producing too few of a product is potentially a lot more easily corrected than fixing a glitch in the hardware.

Re:Maybe No Glitch At All? (4, Informative)

mattyohe (517995) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730615)

The Inquirer like everyone else has updated their story...:

Update It would appear that the original version of the story was correct. Intel has put the 800MHz FSB 3.0GHz P4 on hold. We received the following statement from Intel: "Due to recent analysis, and given our commitment to quality, Intel will be placing the Pentium 4 processor at 3.00 GHz with an 800MHz bus on ship hold temporarily. In the course of our final testing in our validation lab environment, we have observed an anomaly on a very small number of the 800MHz bus processors. We are working to understand and resolve the issue and we hope to ship this new processor as soon as possible."

Re:Maybe No Glitch At All? (1)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730644)

They've updated it with a statement from Intel - not the most impartial judge of events, right? If they're a rumor about a company and some statement from the PR staff at the company, ten times out of ten, I am more interested in the rumor. The PR release is just fluff.

Re:Maybe No Glitch At All? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730675)

[I]But which is worse? Running into a problem in testing OR miscalculating how many units you need?[/I] You obviously never tried to buy a PS2 when they first came out...

This is not true (3, Funny)

Mohammed Al-Sahaf (665285) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730569)

This article is a fabrication. The chip was never delayed. The blood of the rival chip makers was shed on the walls of Baghdad.

The above post has not been modded down! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730904)

The above post really has a +5 score!

The dastardly agents working on behalf of the corrupt western infidels CoyboyNeal and Taco conspired to mod the mighty M.S.S. down!

Don't mod down the Minister! [welovethei...nister.com]

Re:The above post has not been modded down! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5731065)

That post from our brave iraqi forces is the only post you see when your threshold is set to +5. The blood of the infidels is spattered all over the -1 desert.

Shuddup Bob. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730922)

You're dead already, now go away and rot.

Trouble in Pentiums and Cartman got anal probed (0, Troll)

SpanishInquisition (127269) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730570)

Is this a rerun?

stupid blue man group (1, Funny)

Cached Hit (651577) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730575)

guess they cantership it...

w00t (1)

iosmart (624285) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730588)

haha, i'll take any mistake processors they might have produced between this morning and now!

Re:w00t (1)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730833)

w00t? Don't you mean F00F?

Intel: Where Quality Is Job 0.99999999567 (5, Funny)

tuffy (10202) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730601)

Sorry, had to say it :)

Re:Intel: Where Quality Is... (2, Funny)

ZaPhOd42 (60796) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730738)

Divide by 0 error!

Kernel Panic!

BOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!

No Wonder (3, Funny)

Gefiltefish11 (611646) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730620)


It's no surprise that they've had problems. "Canterwood" just has a bad sound to it. The working name will probably doom the product to failure. Next thing you know, we'll all be hearing about the "Canterwood" effect of hardware failure...

Re:No Wonder (1)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730897)

Try saying it in a cockney accent for full effect :)

Plus if it's wood it can burn?

Excellent name for... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730977)

...the new level I'm creating in UT2003.

DM-Canterwood[FUD] ;-)

Paper Release (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730624)

You really think they found "show stopper" bugs on the Sunday night before the Monday release??? ...... RIIIIGHHHTTTTTT
This is a PR stunt to have the fastest possible processor "released" to the public. It's a game and you nerds played right into it.

Enjoy

Re:Paper Release (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730879)

Stay tuned for tomorrow's press release:
Sorry for the delay ... we were wrong. No bugs. We actually DO have the fastest processor available. Click here to buy one.

Well duh... (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730628)


Flaw Delays Shipment Of New 'Canterwood' Pentium 4

Frankly I'm suprised a CPU made of wood would work at all.

Re:Well duh... (4, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730870)

"Frankly I'm suprised a CPU made of wood would work at all."

Hey man, don't knock wood.

This technology is actually quite fascinating. Not only is it very reliable, but it's also low voltage and resistant to random bit flippings caused by radiation etc.

Check out this extreme closeup image [usmedicalfunding.com] of the processor, you'll see what I mean.

Re:Well duh... (4, Funny)

tuffy (10202) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730916)

Frankly I'm suprised a CPU made of wood would work at all.

Intel is simply branching out into new technologies.

Translation (1)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730629)

An Intel spokesman contacted Hardware-Unlimited early this morning to let the publication know that performance "anomolies" have been discovered

Microsoft and Sun are commiting to buying AMD's 64 bit chip...Oh Shit!!

Intel distances... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730635)

"Intel distances themselves again from the Athlon." [slashdot.org]

Or not. :)

Sorry. Had to take a cheap shot at an Intel fanboy (OldGrayDave).

Freakazoid! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730638)

There's a flaw in the Pentacle chip! Whatever you do, don't get on the Internet, type a string of nonsense and hit DELETE. Otherwise you'll get sucked in and probably polluted by pr0n.

Sorry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730642)

But I'm an all ATI-AMD-LINUX shop now. none of your wintelvidas here!

Uh oh (3, Funny)

hawkbug (94280) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730649)

Hopefully it's not another "math bug", where 2 x 2 = 4.1267999999!

Regardless of the severity of the flaw... (5, Insightful)

drgroove (631550) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730651)

... its great to see Intel take the initiative on their product and prevent a chip w/ even a minor flaw from entering the marketplace. While their stock price might take a minor hit today on the news that shipment has been delayed, imagine the fiasco down the line if thousands of flawed processors were in the wild, and Intel had to do a recall? FWIW, this was the "Right Thing To Do".

If only other prominent tech companies (*cough* *microsoft* *cough*) would take this sort of lead and ensure that only products which were found to be free of flaws entered the market, instead of releasing half-baked products and using the customer base as guinea pigs... just imagine how better off we'd all be...

Re:Regardless of the severity of the flaw... (1)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730915)

"If only other prominent tech companies (*cough* *microsoft* *cough*) would take this sort of lead and ensure that only products which were found to be free of flaws..."

Have you ever actually been part of the development process? In case you haven't, let me give you a little hint: the customer is always a wildcard.

I remember Front Page ... I think it was 98 was reported to have a flaw that could wipe out your hard drive. Sounds nasty, doesn't it? Hardly. What happened was somebody was creative. When they created a website, they chose the root of their C drive to store it. Deciding there was too much garbage there, they wiped out all the folders. And blammo.

What you're suggesting is about as insightful as saying that only good movies should be released.

Re:Regardless of the severity of the flaw... (0, Offtopic)

drgroove (631550) | more than 11 years ago | (#5731026)

Well, seeing as I'm a professional software developer, I think I've been part of a development process before.

I was not in any way saying that only perfect software/hardware should be released. What I plainly said was that Intel did the right thing by delaying a product launch after finding a flaw. Regardless of the seriousness of this flaw, instead of sending the product out with a minor/medium/major flaw, they decided to fix it first, then ship the product.

I'm sorry, but last time I checked, Microsoft was notorious - in the opinion of its own employees, even - of sending out half-baked products and using their customer base to test the software.

I remember Front Page...
From the accusitory nature of your post, it sounds like the real issue here is that you work for Microsoft, and know for a fact that my little slight on MS is completely valid, and I have in some way bruised your fragile, pathetically weak ego. Well, I'm sorry if your company can't get their product launches right the first time - maybe if instead of launching half-baked, insecure products, you actually tested them thoroughly first, your company wouldn't have such a crappy reputation. Perhaps getting sued by the US Government has finally straightened MS out to their constant product release problems? Or, maybe Mr. Gates' little memo did the trick?

Re:Regardless of the severity of the flaw... (3, Insightful)

GebsBeard (665887) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730934)

Anyone with any memory at all remembers the infamous pentium bug of years back. These things happen and as they pack more transistors onto their chips we can expect the number of hardware bugs to climb as well. Many of them are never even caught because they're never seen. Intel got hit with a firestorm of bad publicity before and are just covering their a$$es. Its frankly good business.

Such a loss (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730698)

Canter would, but Pentium wouldn't letium.

too much power != good (5, Insightful)

2057 (600541) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730701)

The more powerful the chips intel pushes the less effcient the coder becomes, i remember when i used to tweak my programs so they would run optimally on a slower machines, now a days its like you need 192mb and 500mhz for word processing. People need to get back to the old school days when a 486/66mhz and 4mb RAM was minumum. I can understand how games evolve and more power is needed, but it's not just games that have this high requirement these days.

Re:too much power != good (0, Flamebait)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730852)

Blah blah blah... this is the same lamentation that comes out every single time a report about a new, faster processor appears. We get it. Please, move on... all this whining about "the good ol' days" is really getting exhausting.

Definition of "good" development (5, Insightful)

m11533 (263900) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730853)

Long ago the developer/hardware equation was changed. Originally, hardware was far more expensive than the people developing the software. That was when investing lots of energy into hand-optimizing was the proper tradeoff.

Years ago, before 1GHz was considered a short term possibility, hardware costs had decreased and software costs had increased, to the point where it is the DEVELOPER who is the most expensive piece of the equation. Thus, we now are at the point where, with the exception of a few very specialized segments, we do whatever it takes to optimize the developer time in building software. That is not to say that developers can be careless and wasteful. But that developers should not waste time optimizing code. IFF performance is an issue, THEN one takes measurements and optimizes critical areas consuming the majority of time. Beyond that, it just isn't worth it. Today's 3GHz machines with GB of RAM only reinforce that this is the only appropriate approach to software development.

Re:too much power != good (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 11 years ago | (#5731039)

the fault of this lies in many things.

the C libraries are getting insane in size.

Microsoft demands that their visual basic is 2 times the size the last version was. (I remember being able to fit a VB app and it's libraries on a floppy! now you can't fit the minimal libraries on 10 floppies and thank god I don't get near that crap anymore) and the same problem is with C and it's libs.

Now add the fact that for some reason our word processor needs to render HTML and 95 other file formats, be able to do basic image editing, have a damned animated help system, a on the fly grammar and spell checking (because we are all too lazy to press that "spellcheck" button once in a while.)

plus 900-1000 more useless crap like scripting.. Who the hell needs to script anything in a WORD PROCESSOR??

I do agree that games have a good excuse for their bloat. Operating systems don't, office productivity apps don't.

It's just sloppy programming coupled with no reason to make tight clean code, with the clueless management behind the programmers wanting to ship alpha-quality software.

It will get much worse before it get's better.. and it will only happen as a revolution inside the "software revolution" we have going now.

Vapor vs. shipping. (4, Funny)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730716)

OK, so to recap the previous article and this article:

They compare a chip that is not shipping now, cannot ship now because of bugs, but when it ships will have a memory interface twice as fast as what is shipping now on the Athlon as well as a roughly 50% higher clock speed. In many tests the Athlon (which is shipping now) still won, and where it did not win it usually was over 50% as fast as this new chip (which is not shipping yet).

Never mind the fishy % math... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730981)

I'm curious how all the "AMD IPC rules" people are adjusting now that the Pentium M 1.6GHz has about the same raw performance as an Athlon 2400+ or 2600+ @ 1.93 or 2.13Ghz... never mind that it took several *months* for those Athlons to come out to become available after all the benchmarks came out. And they still lost most of their benchmarks to shipping Pentiums. (Just like, BTW, the Athlons out now.)

Obligatory Pentium Jokes (5, Funny)

xcomputer_man (513295) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730747)

Q. How many Pentium designers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A. 1.99999289345, but that's close enough for non-technical people.

Q. The Pentium conforms to IEEE standards for floating point math. If you fly in an airplane designed using a Pentium, what's the correct pronounciation of IEEE?
A. Aiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Q. What's another name for the Intel Inside sticker they put on PCs?
A. The warning label.

And their next processor.... (1)

s4ltyd0g (452701) | more than 11 years ago | (#5731019)

The repentium!

Wait a friggen sec... (2, Funny)

dethl (626353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730766)

Intel is brining out a FASTER cpu while AMD is going to redo the desktop market with a 64-bit processor?

SYRIA: A Nation of Hate (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730776)

The criminal regime in Syria has responded to our request's to STOP takeing in Iraqi war criminal's and STOP providing Iraqi military's with weapon's that end up being used to kill coalition soldier's by takeing in MORE war criminal's and shipping MORE weapon's to Iraqi's. They have shipped over night vission goggle's as well as machine gun's and grenade's. They have taken in hi-level official's of the Iraqi government and are refuseing to turn them over. They have essentially declared War on the United States and it is time to demonstrate that we will act.

WRITE your congressman and say that you do not stand for this, that we do not stand for this, and that Syria's action's must be punished in the severest possible term's. 9/11 showed us what happen's when terrorist state's are allowed to exist and promote their terrrorism. Baghdad has given Damascus a taist of what await's it.

Re:SYRIA: A Nation of Hate (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730912)

Dear:

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Seems to be tied to the 800-MHz FSB interface (2, Interesting)

MarkRH (629597) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730792)

A 533-MHz FSB Pentium 4 will run fine on Canterwood, Intel told us this morning. No word yet on whether or not Dell, Gateway, et al will stop shipments, or how long the delay will be. Or what the problem actually is, for that matter.

Apple Still Wins (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730799)

It is still a moot point when this chip finally does ship. The fact still stands that every 1 Mhz on an Apple computer is comparative to 4 Mhz on a PEE CEE.

i.e. 3.0 Intel Ghz / 4 == 750 Apple Mhz

Re:Apple Still Wins (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730906)

crack is bad.

Standard Intel marketing (0, Flamebait)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730804)

Hasn't this always been standard Intel marketing? Tell everyone how absolutely great their new product is, and how you can't live without it, then after it's announced as a viable product, they delay citing bugs?

Well, I guess that's better than the Pentium 60Mhz and 66Mhz bug.. Release a whole bunch of processors, just to recall them later. :)

yet another reason to go amd (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730816)

AMD has had ZERO problems with their chips. They ALWAYS run completely stable. When AMD made chipsets they were ALWAYS stable, now VIA makes the best chipsets, ROCK SOLID with NO PROBLEMS. Anybody who knows what they are doing will ALWAYS choose AMD chips. Intel chips are what the likes of Dell and Gateway use in their computers. And I really doubt that anybody expects to get any serious work done on those.

Re:yet another reason to go amd (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5731002)

Woah, slow down there, fanboy. Take your blinders off and look at the real picture here. You sound like those people who drive their Dodge trucks and anyone who drives Chevy is just some idiot who fell into a marketing ploy. AMD throws just as much marketing hype around as Intel, and Intel has long proven that they know how to make a chip, and as almost all of my computers have had Intel Inside(tm), I can vouch for that. I do have a Athlon TBird 1.3ghz here as my linux box, so I'm not an Intel Fanboy (dont get me going on nVidia though...) Quite honestly my selection for my components comes down to who has the best product at the time that I'm laying out for my purchase.

What they don't want you to know... (4, Funny)

MoeMoe (659154) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730820)

Customer: What is the holdup in bringing out the new chip?
Intel Rep.: We have recently uncovered some "anomolies" within the chip itself
Customer: Would it slow down my computer?
Intel Rep.: No...
Customer: Would it damage my mobo or HD?
Intel Rep.: No...
Customer: Then what is this "anamoly" about?
Intel Rep.: We forgot to make it un-"OC"able OK?!?!
Customer: Ummm wait....
**Click!**

Actually....This might be true.... (2, Funny)

Fallen Kell (165468) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730938)

The chips given to the hardware reviewers were unlocked, and you could change the multiplyer on the chip however you wanted. They might have forgotten to change it back...

if it was VIA, they would realese it anyway (1)

atarione (601740) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730824)

then put on a "B" version in 2x mos. so the delay kinda suxtors but better than paying top $$$ for the new chips and finding out you got teething problems.

They deserve it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730856)

That's what they get for not calling it Cantor-wood

Windows Server 2003 overtakes Solaris 9 on the web (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730869)



http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/14/105017 25 23421.html

http://news.netcraft.com/

Performance anomolies (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730900)

let the publication know that performance "anomolies" have been discovered,



Yes, the new Intel chip seems to have a few issues.
To see if your chip is affected, submit a story to Slashdot that includes the word "anomaly" or some variant thereof. If it comes out misspelled, you're fucked.

Interesting... (1)

inode_buddha (576844) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730927)

how this happens in the same week that they're supposed to file their 10-Q with the SEC. I'm going to have to check the stats on that in a bit.

Did you know? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730936)

In Soviet Russia, Intel delays YOU!

A clear case of FUD! (1)

TobiasSodergren (470677) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730954)

- Are you telling me it's Flawed, Useless Developer?

Um.. Ok, maybe it wasn't that funny.

Intel, who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5730989)

It doesn't matter what chip Intel makes and how fast it is, because I only buy AMD chips. Mopolistic practices and a history of friendliness with Microsoft have turned me into an AMD fan. So fuck the French, buy American. That means AMD.

The real reason (2, Funny)

InsaneCreator (209742) | more than 11 years ago | (#5730992)

The chip was so fast, it identified itself as an AMD. :)

F00F bug (0, Redundant)

rf0 (159958) | more than 11 years ago | (#5731024)

Well its better than aother F00F bug isn't it? Then again we won't be able to make jokes like

How may Pentiums does it take to change a lightbulb?
1.9884838483 :)

Rus

Impressive. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5731038)

So I haven't been keeping up with processor news lately. My AMD 1800 XP+ is still running great.

"Pentium 4 3Ghz with an 800Mhz FSB."

Jesus H. Christ - now *that* is an improvement. Not the GHz, but the FSB...

If Intel manages to come out with a low heat, medium-power (IE, 1-2 GHZ) Centrino with an FSB that large, they'll be winning me over.

FSB is where the money's at, in terms of performance. That, and general HD speeds. Unfortunately, it looks like hard drives will suck until they're replaced with holographic/crystalline/CowboyNeal-with-a-stone-ta blet technology.
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