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Talk It Over With Captain Crunch

Roblimo posted more than 11 years ago | from the whistle-a-happy-tune dept.

Security 444

John T. Draper is most famous as "Captain Crunch," the legendary phone phreak who taught others how to make illicit use of Ma Bell's facilities to call almost anywhere, almost any time, for free. But (as a glance at his personal page will show you), that is just about the least of Draper's accomplishments. Not only that, he's still going strong. This is your chance to talk directly to a man without whom the modern-day personal computer -- and modern hacking and many other things we take for granted -- might not exist at all, and certainly would not exist in their current forms. One question per post please, and try to avoid asking questions that could be answered with a little online research. We'll send 10 or 12 of the highest-moderated questions to Draper tomorrow, and run his answers as soon as he has time to reply.

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ASHISH has a question for the good captain (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736443)

Will you give props to my dead homiezz and bring me some Mtn. Dew?

ThanX0r.

-AXJ

MY QUESTION: DO YOU LIKE TO SUCK COCK? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736656)

Well do you? I assume you do since you use lunix.

Cereal (2, Funny)

limekiller4 (451497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736445)

How much Captain Crunch cereal do you eat these days? Would you say it has gone up or gone down since your now-infamous discovery?

Re:Cereal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736532)

How much Captain Crunch cereal do you eat these days? Would you say it has gone up or gone down since your now-infamous discovery?

I thought the cereal was cap'n crunch?

Re:Cereal (1)

Overly Critical Guy (663429) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736692)

As if nobody saw that one coming. Sigh.

Re:Cereal (3, Funny)

stuntpope (19736) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736780)

Don't be so overly criti.. oh, wait.

Re:Cereal (1)

planoie (204807) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736706)

Didn't you read his "story" page??
"...when I got a phone call from Denny, a blind kid who turned me onto a toy whistle he got out of a Cap'n Crunch cereal box..."
There is no indication there that he ever ate, or now eats Cap'n Crunch. We can only assume that he did.

Re:Cereal (1)

limekiller4 (451497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736790)

planoie writes:
"There is no indication there that he ever ate, or now eats Cap'n Crunch. We can only assume that he did."

You people are fucking savages. It was a joke.

Can you show me how to hack? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736447)

me too.

Flamebait? Do you not get the joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736584)

LAUGH YOU FUCK.

FIRST POST NIGS (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736448)

You lousy son of a bitch! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736477)

What the fudck! Were you too lazy to type a fuckiknng message? you incompetant asshole, I hope you fall out of some kind of thing which is high off the ground!

YOU ARE DEADER THAN PRINCESS DI

CAP'N (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736453)

BEST CERIAL EVA!!!

Re:CAP'N (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736531)

shouldn't this be offtopic, not flamebait, or do you REALLY hate Captain Crunch Cereal?

See below for you answer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736647)

That is, the answer to the question:
" shouldn't this be offtopic, not flamebait, or do you REALLY hate Captain Crunch Cereal?"

It is flamebait because you were just flamed :)

Why I am flaming you.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736614)

Dear:

[ ] Clueless n00b
[X] Lamer
[ ] Kid with no clue
[ ] Flamebait
[ ] Jackass
[ ] Lazy person
[ ] Me too'er
[ ] Spammer
[X] Idiot
[ ] Asterik-laden adjective
[ ] Pointless Thread Starter

You Are Being Flamed Because:

[ ] You continued a long, stupid thread
[ ] You said "me too" to something or "Send ______"
[ ] You asked for w@rez
[ ] You don't know what you're talking about
[ ] You suck
[ ] You posted one of the reposts from hell.
[ ] Your post title has nothing to do with the content
[ ] You complained about something you got for free/low cost
[ ] You are not the grammer police
[ ] You hate the U.S. or its policies yet will not leave
[ ] You started a flamewar thread
[ ] You are b!tching about something you have no right to b!tch about
[ ] You asked for medical help on a computer forum
[ ] You asked an incredibly stupid question
[ ] You asked how to mod a honda
[ ] Your sig/alias sucks
[ ] You did not listen to a smarter member or ignored advice
[ ] You need use the damn search button
[ ] You said any version of "repost" This is allowed sometimes but not this time
[ ] You posted something totally uninteresting
[X] You posted a topic/message all written in CAPS
[ ] You posted spam
[ ] Your stupidity is astounding
[ ] You used the words 'suxors' and/or 'roxors'
[ ] You posted "FIRST POST!"
[ ] You are quitting the website for good...again
[ ] You complained about the Mods

To Repent, You Must:
[ ] Give up your AOL/Euronet/MSN/Planet Internet account
[ ] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
[ ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor
[ ] Actually post something relevant
[ ] Listen to Moonbeam for 3 hours
[ ] Become friends with Red Dawn
[X] Pry the Caps Lock and Shift keys from your keyboard
[ ] Read the damned FAQ
[ ] Cut off both your hands with your own hands
[ ] Post some damn pics
[ ] Go hug your parents right now
[ ] Remove the Slashdot forum from your list
[ ] Read the manual / instructions
[ ] Remove your genitalia so you do not breed
[ ] Repenting is not possible, you are banned.
[ ] Use the damned search function
[ ] Post in the right damned forum
[ ] Put your car into a crusher
[ ] Apologize to everybody on this website
[ ] Actually leave the website for good

lame ass question (5, Interesting)

fussman (607784) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736457)

Has your view of computer security (in terms of effectiveness) changed as opposed to security 10 years ago?

Re:lame ass question (1)

SoftCoreHonesty (665319) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736754)

Let's see. 10 years ago the internet was fledgling, most homes didn't have PC's and those that did didn't typically have network connections, and the ones that were part of a network were usually part of a closed network. I would definitely think things were a lot more secure back them. Maybe compared to 5 years ago would be a better analysis.

Captain Crunch? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736461)

Do you like the cereal?

What grabís you now? (5, Interesting)

JamesSharman (91225) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736462)

Anyone who can call themselves a hacker (in the old sense of the world) will have lost sleep to a problem, that one that you absolutely must solve. In your formative years I expect phreaking or hacking problems grabbed you in this way, for each of us it's something different but it's the drive and focus we have in common. My question is, what grabs you like this now? Do you still get those moments when you just can't leave a problem alone?

So... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736467)

What's up with those young boys you're always hanging around with?

Yours,
M. Jackson

Crunchbox (5, Interesting)

Triumph The Insult C (586706) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736468)

Will/Have you ever make/made any changes you've made to OpenBSD for your Crunchbox available to the OpenBSD group?

The ethics of Phreaking (5, Interesting)

levik (52444) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736474)

While many people who pirate software can claim that because the publisher suffers no physical loss of product, no actual theft has taken place, phone phreakers of old have no such defense. The global reach of the internet and the falling prices of Long Distance calls have made freaking a thing of the past, but it was quite widespread back in the late 80s and early 90s. Did you (meaning Phreakers in general) have any ethical qualms about stealing service not only from the big bell companies, but also sometimes from their customers who were later forced to pay for the phone charges that were run up?

EVER PUT THE WHISTLE IN YOUR ASS AND FART? (-1)

Subject Line Troll (581198) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736648)

Does this mean something? (1, Funny)

Ballresin (398599) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736482)

The aparent "Grandfather of Hacking" if you will... ...uses Macs?

Is this important to note?

I like him better already.

What a smart guy!

Gone forever? (5, Interesting)

RosCabezas (610805) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736487)

Are the phreaking times gone forever with the digital technology or it ain't interesting anymore since we have the internet?

Re:Gone forever? (1)

wwalker98 (601563) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736758)

John Ashcroft wants to know.

Revised rules. (4, Funny)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736488)


> One question per post please, and try to avoid asking questions that could be answered with a little online research.

And don't read this article in Michigan.

Re:Revised rules. (1)

Forkenhoppen (16574) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736517)

On the upside, you'll never read the internet alone again.

Favorite story? (5, Interesting)

JUSTONEMORELATTE (584508) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736496)

In "Revenge of the Nerds," Woz tells the story of phreaking his way to Vatican City and trying to get the pope on the line, claiming to be Kissinger (IIRC)
Do you have a favorite story, either because of the people involved, the tech (high tech or low tech) used, or the problems solved along the way?

--

Re:Favorite story? (1)

rewster (202842) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736640)

I'm guessing you mean "Triumph of the Nerds" since "Revenge" is a comedy..

Dear Captain Crunch, (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736505)

Dear Captain Crunch.

Big fan of your work. But I was wondering, how come you couldn't rig up a couple of fancy grey boxes to fix your god damn slashdot problem?

Love,

Rizzizzle Rizzzzazzzat. Bizzat.

Cell phone hacking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736507)

Can you hear me now?

My question (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736511)

d0 j00 pj33r t00k4n s4m?

0r d4 k33b13r 3lf..

1337 d00d

Still got your whistle? (5, Interesting)

derbs (563933) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736512)

Have you still got your original whistle? And if so, have you ever thought about putting it on eBay?

Re:Still got your whistle? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736723)

Wasn't this suppose to be a joke question? A play on the breakfast cereal character Captain Crunch? Yet pumped up as interesting...

Why are you such an anti-smoking dick? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736516)

Seriously, you completely ruined HoHoCon'92 with all your bitching about the smoke in the conference room.

Re:Why are you such an anti-smoking dick? (1)

revery (456516) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736738)

Interestingly enough, you can read about it here [phrack-don...t-dmca.org]

--

Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.

Re:Why are you such an anti-smoking dick? (0, Offtopic)

farrellj (563) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736782)

Probably because, like myself, I am very allergic to tobacco smoke, and if there is enough of it, actually stop breathing. Not good for one's health.

ttyl
Farrell

Changing legal climate (5, Interesting)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736520)

What is your outlook for the future of hacking high-tech consumer products? Given the increasingly hostile legal climate regarding these activities (DMCA et al) it appears that corporations have much stronger legal tools to go after hackers that in days gone by were seen as more of a not-well-understood nuisance factor. Are the good old days gone forever?

What's it like to be interviewed by Art Bell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736521)

I heard you on his show a few years ago... he's pretty clueless isn't he?

Gotta know (5, Funny)

unicron (20286) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736523)

Mr. Crunch,

Your campaign seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?

My question for Cap N Crunch: (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736530)

Do you like the peanut butter flavor or the regular of your namesake's cereal?

Dear Cap'n Crunch... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736534)

Will you please stop making that horrible "Peanut Butter Crunch?" The stuff tastes like ass. Please focus on those yummy Crunch Berries.

Kevin Mitnick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736536)

Captain Crunch, what is the extent of your relationship with Kevin Mitnick?

Re:Kevin Mitnick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736676)

I can answer that for you!


After having been anally violated in prison, i learned to enjoy it.


The Captain had plenty of conjugal visits with me, and turns out he's greek too!


-- K Mitnick.

Two Questions (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736537)

If you could go back and do it all over again, would you? Also, what do you consider to be the emerging playground (ie WiFi, etc) of phreaks today?

Hacking and the DMCA (5, Interesting)

Mentorix (620009) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736538)

Could you elaborate on your opinion of new laws like the DMCA in the US and the variants thereof that are being introduced in Europe and the rest of the world.

What would have happened differently if laws like the DMCA were in force during your first phreaking sessions?

still going strong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736539)

Not sure about still going strong... last time I met him (last year), it looked like he didn't go all that strong. not sure if all the 'phreaking' or the accessories that went with it took its toll.

Unfair demonization? (5, Interesting)

SnakeEyes (123104) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736545)

Mr. Draper,
It is an honor to "speak" with you.

Recently, in an information security class, I gave a presentation based mainly on your 1970's exploits and how you (and other's who have the fortunate distinction of not being made scapegoats by the government) helped lead to a more secure POTS system and stronger security in general, which is what most hackers want anyway.

My professor later berated my choice of topics as (his words not mine) "he is an obvious lawless felon and is not worthy of this class's time". How do you respond to this unfair characterization by others?

Also, it would seem that no lessons have been learned over the years since we still insist on punishing the messengers (hackers) rather than the cause (insecure systems). Is there any way you think we can change these perceptions?
Thank you.

WOAH (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736575)

HAHAHA

YOURE A GENIOUSE!!!!1

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WHICHEVER!!!

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REALLY FUNNY ASS

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Re:Unfair demonization? (3, Insightful)

Overly Critical Guy (663429) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736749)

What "most hackers want anyway" is to brag to their friends about their exploits. Please. They are not freedom fighters making the world safer for others, and they are not "messengers" who should be praised for breaking into people's computer systems. Simply because something is insecure does not give one the "right" to break into it.

I think this is obvious to most people, but there are those Slashbots who will instinctively disagree because they feel the need to glorify people who do this sort of thing. It will never change the fact that it is illegal.

Re:Unfair demonization - or accurate portrayal? (3, Interesting)

Havokmon (89874) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736785)

My professor later berated my choice of topics as (his words not mine) "he is an obvious lawless felon and is not worthy of this class's time". How do you respond to this unfair characterization by others?

Or better:

How do you respond to those who say you merely stumbled onto something (the whistle) that did something that was already known by EVERYONE (2600hz tones which was published in AT&T Manuals in PUBLIC Libraries), and exploited it for personal gain (free phone calls/publicity)?

Technology, advances, etc (1)

munition (212134) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736547)

As someone who was an original pioneer in hacking (in the true since of the word, which is discovery and exploration), do you feel that technology, security advances, etc, have made it impossible for people to satisfy their curiosity by hacking and toying with ideas? What is your opinion on the tightening of government control around computer and phone security?

Freedom (2, Interesting)

rzbx (236929) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736555)

Freedom on the internet is becoming increasingly threatened by corporate and government interests. What can a /. reader do to help prevent this?

The Obvious (1)

phrogeeb (621296) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736556)

Is phreaking dead forever?

Age and views (5, Interesting)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736561)

This is similar I'm sure to questions you get asked all the time, but with, I think, a slightly different twist.

In what context do you put your activities of your youth now that you are older and, presumably, wiser. Have your views of hacking and the ethical implications changed over the years? Back then, if it were demonstrable to you that your activities were causing harm (presumably financial), would it have made any difference back then, does it make any differnce now?

Re:Age and views (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736681)

"Do you think what you were doing was wrong?"

The slightly different twist is what? You used alot more words.

Another one down (3, Funny)

menasius (202515) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736568)

This is kinda like taking pop-shots at rare or endangered species:

Tuesday April 15th:
wake-up
pay bills
Slashdot a living legends homepage
lunch ...

-bart

Re:Another one down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736662)

Forgot the most important one if you are in the US and haven't already sent it off:

send money to government/pay taxes. (And this year the government actually owed us $0.02, very odd)

My question... (5, Interesting)

WinterSilence (171450) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736578)

Do you think your former actions in any way have affected the way big telecommunications providers look at themselves, their services and specially how their attitude and feeling of/behaving like they are always more right and migthier than the normal costumer ? And if so, what did you achive to change, even this was an uninteded side-effect of your former actions ?

Some FAQs to avoid... (4, Informative)

MadFarmAnimalz (460972) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736579)

Here. [webcrunchers.com]

what was it like? (4, Interesting)

iocat (572367) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736585)

What was the mood or zeitgeist like in the early days of the Phreaker/Hacker world? I mean, how did it feel to go from nothing to suddenly learning how to control the phone system? The feeling of excitement, exploration, and power must have been really intense, and I'd love to hear more about that. Excellent site by the way!

my question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736586)

pitcher, or catcher?

Webcast (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736595)

For those of you who are interested, Draper is the first speaker on the webcast for the second session.

/.ing (1)

po8 (187055) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736596)

As a legendary communications hacker and an expert on communications security, how does it feel to be /.ed and then asked for an interview?

OpenBSD (5, Interesting)

Mr.Intel (165870) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736597)

What prompted you to use OpenBSD as the platform for the Crunch Box? Not intending to start a BSD flame war, I am interested in why you personally chose OpenBSD versus any other BSD or Linux or anything else.

Re:OpenBSD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736717)

Security, duh. What kind of hacker gets hacked himself? ;)

What BBS's, if any did you frequent? (5, Interesting)

Hansele (579672) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736605)

I was curious what BBS's you frequented back in the day. I used to hang out on BBS's that ranged from Ripco in Chicago (very popular phreaker hangout) to USS Enterprise in Houston, TX, and of course, phreaking was the way that one tended to call BBS's. Nowdays computing is so much less "fun" than it used to be really. I remember using my trusty TI-99/4A to dial for codes with a program a friend and I wrote, wardialing, etc. All I can do is hang out on gamer sites and code sites like Naughtycodes [naughtycodes.com]

Oh captain, my captain. (1, Funny)

Joe the Lesser (533425) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736615)

Do you regret adding the 'crunch berry' to your popular formula, just to hype up what was already a perfectly good product? Do you think that such actions will lead to cereal deflation among your territories?

Re:Oh captain, my captain. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736764)

sub question: What do you think about your critics' assertion that your monopoly over crunch berry bushes is unfair to your competitors and detrimental to the consumer.

phreaking slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736622)

Would you consider posting ninja-links to goatse.cx [goatse.cx] to be an updated equivalent of phreaking?


Also, is slashdot gay, or what!?!

Phreaking in Popular Media (4, Interesting)

ParadoxDruid (602583) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736633)

Many movies portray hackers and phreaks in various, mostly inaccurate ways, from the fun but fantasy of movies like "Hackers" to the more recent depictions like The Rat in the new movie "The Core", who uses a comb as a whistle to phreak someone's cell phone. My question is: How do you feel about these depictions of phreaks and hackers? Is it good that media largely glosses over the reality, and focuses on making them look hip, or is it vaguely insulting?

Little boys (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736634)

There have been rumours that you use your status within the 'hacker community' to lure young boys into having sex with you. Is that true, or would you like to refute those claims.

I also hear that you're a big proponant of illicit drug use, has this been a life time habit, or something more recent, such as when you started going to raves.

PS.. maybe its a troll, but if you've met him, you know the above it true.

DMCA overhaul recommendations? (4, Interesting)

Dukeofshadows (607689) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736635)

What sorts of changes (5-7 most important) do you think could be made to the DMCA that would provide reliable protection for intellectual property while minimally intruding on innovation?

Where is the bleeding edge? (5, Interesting)

SoupIsGood Food (1179) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736637)

What illicit technology offers the most fun and challenge today... where are the new frontiers for today's hackers to push the bleeding edge, and what interesting directions do you see them taking with it?

SoupIsGood Food

Day of the trolls? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736645)

On slashdot, Tuesday is troll tuesday. Did you ever have an official date or time to do your crunching?

Is it TRUE?! (0, Troll)

medscaper (238068) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736651)

John...

My dad swears he met you in the late 70's. It's his only claim to fame.

So...is it true? Did you meet him?

Thanks.

Re:Is it TRUE?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736696)

Well, you didn't mention his name, but, yes, of course I met him. Great guy. You should be proud.

John

Re:Is it TRUE?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736739)

John,


My dad also said you gave him the clap. Hey, it was the 70s!

mmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736678)

Why are you so delicious in milk?

Your most useful references (4, Interesting)

Laser JetSet (640103) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736684)

What books, websites, IRC sites, etc would you suggest for an aspiring security engineer? Do you think these have any useful information, or it impossible to learn the necessary skills from these sources?

Already slashdotted (0, Redundant)

Cirrius (304487) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736689)

Is there a cereal box whistle that will get me past the "The page cannot be displayed" message?

if you could do it again.. (5, Interesting)

phrawzty (94423) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736695)

Dear Sir,

Having grown up (there's a scary thought) hearing about the pioneering work you did, i always wondered:

If you could do it over again, would you do something differently? Anything you regret doing? Perhaps more importantly, anything you regret having not done?

(In the context of your telecom / computer life, i don't mean to pry into your.. ah.. personal affairs :) ).

Steve Jobs (5, Interesting)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736708)

Are you and Steve Jobs still friends? Is it true that your "blue box" design inspired the iMac?

YOUR fault we're in this mess??? (5, Interesting)

swordgeek (112599) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736713)

In your day, phreakers et al were pretty much barely a blip on the radar screen. A few of you got charged with old laws, several were threatened or intimidated, and many many kids followed in your wake.

Now we're watching a world get built where PhD thesis material might be illegal [securityfocus.com] , writing code can get you arrested [eff.org] and charged, and even giving an academic presentation [princeton.edu] is threatened.

How much responsibility, if any, do you think the early phreakers and hackers have for this rash of paranoid law?

Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736715)

Thanks much for creating the horde of script kiddies.

They keep a good number of us employed.

Tastes great/Less filling- obscurity or security? (5, Interesting)

skillet-thief (622320) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736726)

In comparing the security back in the day, and modern, much more complicated systems, how much of a factor is overall complexity in the way things have changed over the years? Does more complexity (and therefore obscurity) make things harder, or does it make things easier, since even the people doing the security don't understand what's going on?

In other words, what's your take on obscurity/security?

Personal choice for fame (3, Interesting)

mikeraz (12065) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736729)

OK, a large chunck of the world knows you for doing amazing things with cereal box toys. What would you like to be famous for doing? Actual or fantasy.

Given the benefit of hindsight... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736741)

John, you were a cautionary tale for some of us. If you had it all to do over again, what, if anything, would you do differently?

--rgb

DRM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736744)

Do you feel that your actions and the actions of others like yourself are (in)directly responsible for the current corporate push toward DRM?

on becoming fancy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736746)

Dear Suparhacker:

I was just wondering, why would you bother to keep a non-working blog? // ENTER RECURSIVE LOOP
Dear Captain Tacos,

Why would you bother to feature somebody
who hasn't really done anything in his
reveered community for nearly two decades,
and on top of that hasn't bothered to keep
his website updated every, say, half a
fucking year!

Love,

The Rizzle Agizzain. //End Recursion

Oh well, Mr. Ivan Drago or whoever you are, I forgot what I was going to write to you, but the point is, you're useless! Nobody has 12 or 10 (DEFINATELY NOT ELEVEN, MIND YOU!!) questions to ask you, because you're a schmuck.

Love,

This Fizzle Bizrizatzzzi.s...

Some Biography for /. (4, Informative)

sielwolf (246764) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736751)

You can get a good bio on the Captain on the Rotten Library [rotten.com] . Most interesting:
His "handle" came from the inclusion of a plastic whistle in Captain Crunch cereal in the 1960's which could, with proper manipulation, send out a control tone that would affect telephone systems of the time. Of course, Draper didn't actually discover that fact (the honor goes to a blind phone phreak named Joe Engressia) but he was quite happy to not go out of his way to correct people when they claimed he had.

Is it true? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736752)

Is it true that if you don't let Cap'n Crunch cereal soak long enough, it can cut the inside your mouth when you eat it?

2600 (2, Interesting)

Shamanin (561998) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736761)

Are you, or have you ever been, a member of or in anyway affiliated with the 2600 club of which they named themselves after the phone frequency that you used to gain free access to the network?

Recent events and the DMCA (5, Interesting)

Mikey-San (582838) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736773)

Lately, there have been many instances of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act being used to prevent the publication of security issues found with various companies' products and services, or both.

A recent story here on Slashdot covered university ID cards being flawed, and the DMCA being invoked to prevent discussion of the problem publicly.

Given that your /dig,/ so to speak, is security, what is your take on such invocations of the Act?

-/-
Mikey-San
http://www.mikey-san.net/

0wned (1)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736784)

I saw your segment in the documentary "0wned" at H2K2 last summer (a blurb here [auschron.com] . Did showing how to make free phone calls earn you major respect amongst the inmates when you were incarcerated?

Energy Workups. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5736786)

Crunch: I know a LOT of oldschool sfravers who were traumatized by you and your "energy workups." What do you have to say to those people?

Is this for real? (1)

Tim_F (12524) | more than 11 years ago | (#5736789)

Slashdot has always been against the use of the term "hacker" for someone that destroys or steals things. Slashdot and the geeks that read this site have seemed to always want to refer to these people as "crackers." A term that has been legitimately used to denigrate white people for ages. And yet here we have Roblimo, one of the slashdot founders advocating the use of the term "hacker" to describe someone who has stolen things, and inspired others to do the same.

Can someone please step forward and once and for all decide the true meaning of these two terms?
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