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Bombing the Moon for Water

CmdrTaco posted more than 11 years ago | from the make-go-boom dept.

Space 625

s20451 writes "In 1998, NASA scientists deliberately crashed the Lunar Prospector into the Moon, in a failed attempt to detect traces of water allegedly hiding in deep craters at the lunar south pole. Now the BBC is reporting a new proposal to attack the lunar poles with "Bunker Buster" missiles to liberate a detectable amount of water. Called Polar Night, the mission is being proposed as part of the "Discovery" series of probes."

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What is this MSNBC? (5, Funny)

OwnerOfWhinyCat (654476) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802657)

They aren't going to attack the poles with "Bunker Buster" missles.

They're going to emplant "scientific equipment" "...a few meters below the surface of the moon."
Using "...probes are based on bunker-buster penetrators."

And when compared with the cost of sending up a [wo]man to dig a six foot hole for the same information, it sounds terrific. Let's Terraform!

Re:What is this MSNBC? (1)

Aerolith_alpha (85503) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802685)

next they're going to want to fire a moab up there... then we'll REALLY see the water vapor when it blows up into a huge dust cloud.

Re:What is this MSNBC? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802688)

ok, "implant"
To the misspelling untolerant, I apologize. :)

Re:What is this MSNBC? (1)

Znonymous Coward (615009) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802829)

No, MSNBC would just embed reporters on the moon surface equipped with "video phones".

BWAHAHAHA! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802892)

Posers!

Look's like they've been pilfering evil plans [straightdope.com] from my filing cabinet again!

"One MILLION dollars!"

water in north korea (-1, Flamebait)

smashr (307484) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802664)

lets bomb north korea to try and find some water there too!

FIRST TODDLER VOMIT POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802805)

.

LET'S VOMIT ON ALL OF THE NORTH KOREAN TODDLERS--THEY LOVE ITS WARM, SLIPPERY GOODNESS! .

Arise ye H4X0RZ from your slumbers Arise ye prisoners of want For reason in revolt now thunders And at last ends the age of cant. Away with all your superstitions Servile masses arise, arise We'll change henceforth [forthwith] the old tradition [conditions] And spurn the dust to win the prize. So comrades, come rally And the last fight let us face The Internationale unites the human race. So comrades, come rally And the last fight let us face The Internationale unites the human race. No more deluded by reaction On tyrants only we'll make war The soldiers too will take strike action They'll break ranks and fight no more And if those cannibals keep trying To sacrifice us to their pride They soon shall hear the bullets flying We'll shoot the generals on our own side. No saviour from on high delivers No faith have we in prince or peer Our own right hand the chains must shiver Chains of hatred, greed and fear E'er the thieves will out with their booty [give up their booty] And give to all a happier lot. Each at SourceForge must do his duty And we'll strike while the iron is hot.

MOD PARENT UP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802822)

Moderators have no sense of humor.

What a great idea. (0, Funny)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802670)

While we're at it, let's fire a couple of bunker-busters at Mars, see if it's full of pudding.

How about this: let's not fuck with the moon. Anyone else get that chill sensation when they saw the crumbled moon in Time Machine? (crap film, but that one shot was really spooky)

Re:What a great idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802712)

> Anyone else get that chill sensation when they saw the crumbled moon in Time Machine? (crap film, but that one shot was really spooky)

Tell me about it, I had to watch it 3 times in a row (too amazing). That was the one aspect that (unfortunatly) may one day come true.

BTW, the classic is better than this remake (all things considered)

Re:What a great idea. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802737)

Yep, nothing so insightful as a "I saw this in a cheesy sci fi movie and it turned out bad so therefore I know better than all the PhD's who've dedicated their lives to this field of study" post on slashdot.

Re:What a great idea. (1)

Aerolith_alpha (85503) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802742)

that was the first thing that crossed my mind as well when i read this.

Re:What a great idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802755)

Yeah, I remember that scene...sent a chill right up my spine.

Please let the yield be low. :)

Re:What a great idea. (1)

B3ryllium (571199) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802770)

Well, the plot there was that they were using nuclear weapons to create tunnels and caverns. At least, I think that's what it was.

Star Trek safely terraformed the moon ... but I wouldn't want to start mining it. I'd rather do that for asteroids. :)

Re:What a great idea. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802787)

gay moderator. this is funny, not a troll...... stupid moderators.

Re:What a great idea. (5, Funny)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802849)

Why not fuck with the Moon?

It's a frickin' lump of rock is hanging up there.

Short of breaking it up, what's the harm?

space treaties? (1)

evilWurst (96042) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802676)

What about those treaties about not putting weapons in space?

Re:space treaties? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802762)

We don't have a treaty like that. The treaty you're thinking of was for planets, moons, and such.

Re:space treaties? (1)

japhar81 (640163) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802766)

IF anyone dares to complain, we'll just drop bunker-busters on them instead. Damned terrorists...

Re:space treaties? (1)

fgb (62123) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802781)

Those treaties ban the use of nuclear bombs in space, ironically the only place that nuclear explosions can be put to constructive use.

Re:space treaties? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802850)

treaties, schmeaties, this is the US!! they don't agree to treaties just in case they have to do soemthing illegal.

international criminal court and kyoto agreement to name but two.

Aha! (5, Funny)

Raul654 (453029) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802678)

First Iraq, then North Korea, and now the moon! The Lunans are conspiring against our interests abroad! Conspiracy, I say!

This just in from the Iraqi Information Ministry (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802710)

There is no moon. There never was a moon. We are winning the war. The moon is painted on the sky by evil Americans to confuse us. There is no moon.

mpu... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802857)

im laughing my arse off.

Re:This just in from the Matrix (1, Funny)

SunPin (596554) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802879)

I think you meant, "There is no spoon."

Re:Aha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802725)

The Lunan's have WMD!

They gassed their own people!!!

Theres oil in them thar hills!

Re:Aha! (1)

geggibus (316979) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802815)

It's no conspiracy, the lunatics are hiding Saddam! .. CIA got this information by wiretapping some Lunatics which has infiltrated the US Government..

Re:Aha! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802835)

I'd hate to be the one that unleashes Zemus/Zeromus from the moon! He's evil I tell you... eeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvviiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllle!

Re:Aha! (1)

trikberg (621893) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802858)

Lunans? The inhabitants of the moon are called Lunatics. Don't they teach kids anything in school anymore? *grumble*

Liberate the water? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802681)

new proposal to attack the lunar poles with "Bunker Buster" missiles to liberate a detectable amount of water.

We must free the water from its evil ruler Saddam Moonsein.

The outrage! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802682)

They should give UN weapons inspectors more time!

Re:The outrage! (1)

AceM2 (655504) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802854)

No, they should not. The moon has had millions of years to come clean.

In related news... (5, Funny)

DennisZeMenace (131127) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802684)

The Moon has been added to the infamous "Axis of Evil" group...

bombing the moon? (1)

abhisarda (638576) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802772)

what a luna(r)tic idea ;)

The Time Machine? (0, Redundant)

armyofone (594988) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802691)

Makes me see the moon-falling-on-the-earth scene in The Time Machine remake all over again.

Oooops!!

first.. (5, Funny)

EugeneK (50783) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802693)

.....the US has to make up some stuff about how the moon has WMD, supports terrorism, and insinuate that it was somehow involved in 9/11.

after that... (1)

EaTiN cOfFeE bEaNs (513655) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802807)

They have to send in Hans Blix and his team of "weapons inspectors" to make sure that the Moonies don't have any WMD's.

Yeah, but why? (2, Insightful)

EdgeShadow (665410) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802698)

I fail to see the benefits of exposing trace amounts of water from the moon at the cost of destroying a small portion of it. The fact that we've already detected it proves it's there.

oh no (1)

dsanfte (443781) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802792)

Don't be a sentimental idiot. The moon is a big, sterile rock. Blowing up 1/10000000th of it won't have any negative effects whatsoever... meteors crash onto its surface regularly, you know.

Re:Yeah, but why? (4, Insightful)

inertia@yahoo.com (156602) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802823)

From the BBC article:
  • What is the nature of the deposit?
  • What is the source of the water?
  • Are other ices besides water ice present?
  • Is the hydrogen actually in the form of water ice, or is
  • it hydrogen from the solar wind?

So, we want to know more. And this is one way to do it.

Re:Yeah, but why? (1)

Kevin Stevens (227724) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802851)

destroying it? you are aware its a big rock right? and pretty much all a bomb will do is move a couple of rocks from point A to point B in hopes that somewhere among that debris is water. Ive seen similar sentiments in a few posts now, and I hope everyone realizes that the moon, while smaller than the earth, is still what most would consider really f****** big in non scientific terms. This bomb is going to have zero impact on the moon, and the non-business as usual will continue on the moon. I am sure any damage this bomb does will be orders of magnitude smaller than meteors that crash into it.

OH NOOOO!!!! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802703)

Isn't this how they caused a pseudo-apocalypse in the "The Time Machine"? (no, not that one, the horrible Guy Pierce version)

innocent water will die (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802704)

Now the BBC is reporting a new proposal to attack the lunar poles with "Bunker Buster" missiles to liberate a detectable amount of water

My heart goes out to the innocent water that will be "liberated" by this imperialist act.

Pray that no innocent moon rocks will be victims of so-called "collateral damage".

Winning the war against hidden water will be easy. Can we win the peace?

Hey! (3, Funny)

deadsaijinx* (637410) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802706)

Guess what I just found out! It ends up there is lots of water on earth, and it's not even protected by rocks. No need to blow the place up to get it! ^^

okay, anyway, the only purpose for looking for water is to find life on the moon. By using missiles to release the water, we blow up any life we may have found, just a thought....

Re:Hey! (1)

KDan (90353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802757)

The water on Earth is getting more polluted day by day. Water in asteroids (and probably the moon) is ultra-pure compared to oceans, rivers, etc.

Daniel

Re:Hey! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802798)

The purpose for looking for water on the moon is that it would be nice to have if a permanent base is to be built there.

Re:Hey! (5, Informative)

meridian-gh (584679) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802883)

Life?

More like fuel. Hydrogen and Oxygen. Guess what the shuttle engines run off of?

If we discovered water in any signifigant quantity on the moon, it would (someday) make getting there and back much cheaper and easier. Instead of packing the gas with us, we can stop at the ol' lunar gas station. It is so hellaciously expensive to put things in orbit, every pound saved is a penny earned.

It could also make construction of spacecraft on the moon or in orbit a possibility. Again, the less we have to bring up with us, the better.

Regards,

Meri

The moon has WMDs! (2, Funny)

KDan (90353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802707)

Really, my... fellow americans. *stares at camera* I strongly believe that the moon is currently harbouring all kinds... of weapons of mass destruction. They most definitely have nucular weapon facilities. They are a threat to our way of life, to our liberty... and to the liberty... of all the free people of the Earth *blank stare* And so it is with great sadness, but firmness of purpose, that we must carry on, with the help of God, and rid the solar system of weapons of mass destruction.

George

Bang! Zoom! To the Moon! (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802708)

Childlike behaviour.

Simply put: if you didn't get any exciting results by hitting it, hit it again, harder.

(This was basically how I learned about ants, broken glass and blood as a tyke. Smack ants with a bottle. Smack them harder and it broken, cutting two fingers rather badly. Besides the lesson about how glass brakes into sharp bits, I learned the proper way to smack ants was with a hammer.)

So we discover bunker buster bombs (though delivered by jets and carrying large warheads) are pretty effective at turning over the garden, buildings, toppling dictators (he's not really dead, y'know, he just started the evening shift down the street at 7-11, relieving Elvis), etc. Fun, just like smacking ants! Now hitting the moon with a small probe was pretty exciting, but the novelty wore off. Hit the moon with a bigger hammer and see what happens! That's probably really and exciting idea, but like the ants probably felt (assuming they could) indigant about their fellows being hammered, I'm not at all down with someone smacking the moon just to see what color dust they kick up.

Maybe I subscribe (now that I'm older, don't hammer ants (as much) anymore) to the school of learn what you can without being destructive. I'd be someone bummed if after a few years of these rascals rationalizing and throwing bombs at the moon if it changed its appearance. In other words, there's gotta be a better way, try a little harder to figure it out without resulting to violence against my bud the moon.

Re:Bang! Zoom! To the Moon! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802832)

Oh, (by (the way,) there's (s)uch a ) thing as (((((using))))) too (m)(a)(n)(y) bracket(s)((.))

I don't know what school you subscribed to, but you might want to look into getting a refund.

Good idea... (4, Funny)

sevensharpnine (231974) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802711)

And in related news, NASA officials recently announced an exploratory campaign will be taking place in Syria next week.

Bunker Busters (0, Troll)

j_woolf (630251) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802716)

That's about par for the course.

Oh, wait, hold on... you said WATER. Not oil.

Re:Bunker Busters (1)

PenguinPooper (627246) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802768)

Yes Of Course!! The water on the moon floats on top of the oil....

NASA will make sure... (1)

blind_abraxas (446151) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802723)

...to get all UN Inspectors off the moon before the ground assault begins?

MWAHAHAHA!!! (1)

HughJampton (659996) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802724)

And after bombing the moon, I plan to extract oranges from the SUN with my huge beowulf cluster! YES! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

bomb the moon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802727)

After literally *days* of threatening sanctions, the US government has decided to bomb the moon unless owns up to posessing weapons of mass destruction.

Despite Acting illegally, but pointing out "god is on it's side", the USA and pitiful lap-dog the UKA intend to launch "bunker busting" missiles at the moon in a "shock and awe" campaign intended to decapitate the moon's reigime.

George "fucking retard" bush was heard to say "there's no gawd dang democar...demoreca...demacr'cy on the moon so we intend to do the right thing an blast that god forsaken rock into civilisation".

Finally! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802728)

Bombing the moon? Finally: some astronomy that the Bush camp can get behind.

But what do the Dixie Chicks think? (5, Funny)

jj_johny (626460) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802729)

"I am so ashamed to be from the same state that Johnson space center is in." - Natalie Maines

Are you suggesting we blow up the moon? (1)

_pi-away (308135) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802730)

Would you miss it? really?

FAQ (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802733)

The Anti-GPL Mindset FAQ v.00001

1. The Free Market

Freedom is a very important, albeit often misused, word. Freedom refers to the ability
of a person to perform unhindered exchange with other people.

Just as freedom does not mean the ability to do what you want, like punch your
neighbor, it does not mean the ability to take whatever you want. People often
confuse freedom as meaning unrestriction on action, where it actually means
unrestriction on TRADE.

The physical manifestation of freedom is the free market, where people have the
option, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, to exchange items with one another. These
exchanges are not forced, which is why they are free. Both parties agree to the
exchange.

2. The GPL is legit

This is not going to be a document which says the GPL is illegitmate and should go
away. The GPL merely is a way for authors to ensure that their work is used as
intended, negotiating a free exchange between the author and user.

The problem is not the GPL, but the mindset and assumptions it has brought about
regarding freedom and capitalism. The other problem is that it's generally
assumed that there is an impossible rift between commercial and free software,
scalable only by tech support, manuals, and service contracts. I won't settle
for that.

3. The Need for Money

A large chunk of the Linux community has never written a line of code or contributed
to the world of Linux whatsoever, aside from their misguided rantings on Slashdot.
Despite their opinions, we are currently, thankfully, living in a free market society.
The medium for exhange in this market is cash, as we've evolved beyond the barter
system. With this in mind, the prominent way to obtain physical goods is to
perform an exchange of value with others.

Hence, for those of us not still living off of our parents, or who are unsatisfied
working at Subway by day and exclusively using our programming talents for free at
night, money is a necessity. Working on the latest build of GIMP is fun and exciting,
especially if you have the physical goods you need provided for you by someone else,
but it is impractical to exclusively exchange your work for source code through the
GPL when you need to exchange some work for money as well to survive.

4. Making Money is Not Evil

It seems that a lot of people have fallen into the trap assuming that making money
is inherently evil. They point to Bill Gates as an example.

Though the ethics involved can be questionable, making money is not inherently evil.
Why? Simple -- both parties involved in the exchange of money are doing so
voluntarily. Don't like Microsoft? Don't buy their software. Don't like the fact
that your car payments are so expensive? Don't drive. The reason freedom is such an
important word is because it implies a lack of force. You are not FORCED to do anything
you don't want to.

People argue that a Microsoft monopoly provides no choice. The choice is simple: use
Windows, or don't use Windows. If not using Windows means you have to settle for a
lesser product, or no product, well, then maybe you understand why Microsoft has so much
money :)

People argue that not using Windows or having a car are impossible, but seem to forget
that in reality the only reason they even have an opportunity to use these things are
due to the creators who made them.

5. What about source code?

The commercial software model in the past has often neglected to include source code
with their products. The reason for doing so is most likely because algorithms, techniques,
or even the entire product itself could be re-branded by a competitor and sold on
the free market as their own work.

However, for most users who are not software houses looking to steal the work of
others, source code can be a useful tool. An ideal system would:

1. Allow software distributors to include their source code without fear of a
competitor theft.

2. Allow end-users to modify the software for their own needs.

3. Allow these changes to be exchanged in the free market, with compensation being
given to all parties involved in creating the current product. (The original
developers, and the end users.)

This surely strikes a chord in many people who are accustomed to repeating the
axiom that the GPL is the "one true way" to freedom. The GPL makes source code
available, overcoming point 1 and 2, but does so at the cost of allowing developers
to participate in the outer free market. Some of us, believe it or not, would
love to be able to have end users jump in, or jump in ourselves as end users,
in developing our favorite products. However, we would not like to do so at the
cost of our ability to eat.

In other words, for those of us who want to develop software as a living, the
most viable action to take is to work on GPL stuff as a hobby on the side and
work by day for a traditional software developer. We don't want to get paid
for tech support or "service," we want to get paid for our work on the code.
Despite the cries of the masses, working on GPLed software 24 hours a day does
nothing except make our computers work better and get us a few lines of praise
in IRC.

The challenge is twofold: 1) Getting people to evolve their mentality past the
"GPL is always #1" axiom and 2) Developing a new methodology which allows these
points above. It won't be easy, it might be impossible, but the first step, as
with most mental deficiencies, is realizing that you have a problem.

As a final analogy: Someone writes a 1200 page book over the course of two years.
If they "GPL" the book, they exchange their two years of work and potential ability
to trade it on the free market for the editing and updating ability of the masses.
If they sell the book, they can exchange on the free market but they lose the
publics' help. These are not the only options. If the public could be brought "on board"
for writing an extra chapter here and there, being compensated accordingly,
all parties could be satisifed in a different way if they do not want to sacrifice
one thing for the other.

6. Source code is just speech!

Sure. And so are an architect's plans, a musician's written compositions, an author's
well researched thesis, and an artist's latest painting. If you honestly think that
someone's statement of "George Bush Sucks!" should be considered of the same moral value
as a symphony, then you're beyond help.

Source code is more than speech. One could argue that it's analagous to an architect's
plans, but it's even more than that. Only if there were a universal house machine
that could take an architect's arbitrary drawings and instantly turn them into a house
would this be the case.

Source code, for 99% intents and purposes, IS what it DOES. A 10 line "Hello World" program
is not, and should not be considered, just a 10 line text document. It should be
considered as an entity which prints out "Hello World." The source code to Microsoft
Windows is not merely set of text files, but is an operating system.

It amazes me that programmers can downplay their work so much as to categorize the 10
lines of code they potentially spent weeks writing in the same category as the idiotic
rantings of a drunkard: "speech."

7. So why not just trade source code?

This is what the GPL offers now. But, as stated above, there is potential for another
alternative. No system exists which allows me, with peace of mind, to trade my source code,
my hard work, for cash, both as the original developer or an end-user.

8. But I cannot afford it!

Such is life. You have a few alternatives. Don't use it. Work to earn it.
Build your own alternative. Steal it and risk the consequences.

In any case, don't dilusion yourself that you are somehow entitled to the work of others
by the nature of its existence.

Re:FAQ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802860)

What the fuck thoes this have to do with the moon, you dumb fuck? Fuck! And who modded it up as interesting? I smell a rat. Glad the meta-moderator caught it.

This is all wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802739)

They will go spending millions of dollars, maybe billions, in bombing the moon in search of water only to find out there is only CHEESE up there!

Who else here.. (3, Funny)

stuckatwork (622157) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802740)

...pictured Slim Pickens on a bomb in a space suit riding towards the moon yelling "whoo hoo", a la Dr. Strangelove?

Look at the second picture... (1)

sczimme (603413) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802745)


It's the one in the 'Shock testing' section.

I sure hope the safety is on... Either way, I don't think I would stand directly under that thing.

(Apologies to those of you who get there after the site has died and can't see the pictures. I'm just an insensitive clod.)

hmm (1, Interesting)

abhisarda (638576) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802749)

they will use bunker busting bombs.. the point is that these bombs are used against man-made structures.. and they are much easier to penetrate than solid ground.

The bomb might have to be a nuclear one. Another question is about the delivery capability. Moon does'nt have oxygen. Therefore this bomb will need to have its own oxygen system.

The place they bomb and the place where the spacecraft is located has to be some distance apart. The dust(?) created from this bomb will linger far longer than earth because of moon's gravity.

global warming? (1)

iosmart (624285) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802750)

man, some people have too much monaaay. i thought we were experiencing global warming? the water'll still be good! and just how are they planning to bring it all back to earth if they find some? each missle costs $145,000 [fas.org] too!

Lets hope... (1)

c_oflynn (649487) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802752)

They work better than the probes they sent to mars...

Bastards !!!! (1)

forged (206127) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802758)

So long as they won't fire their probes in my property [google.be] I'm fine with the idea. Altough it really does sound corny.

Re:Bastards !!!! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802813)

It sounds corny because of the lame ass "i hate america and the space program" spin the slashbot who posted the article put on it.

They want to know if there's traces of water on the moon. They think if there is, it's buried at the poles. They would have to dig it up slightly to get to it.

Crashing a device into the moon would do no more (and most likely much less) damage than the countless meteors that slam into it constantly.

And it's not a simple military missle, it merely shares some principles of design. It also has a large scientific payload to detect the water (if any) and transmit the info back to earth.

For more info on this... (2, Funny)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802759)

We turn to Geraldo Rivera, who is sketching a map in the dirt as we speak.

Operation: Moon Freedom (0, Flamebait)

Rai (524476) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802763)

All too easy.

Insert "Bizarro-Bush's smear campaign that the moon is harboring terrorists" joke here.

Moon didn't disarm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802765)

Moon failed to co-operate with the weapon inpectors of USS (United Solar System), and now the serious consequences it was threatend in USS Resolution no. 1441 will occur.

"Make no mistake, we will disarm them!"
-The president of the Earth Alliance

Bunker Busters & Depleted Uranium Weapons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802773)

I hope they don't use depleted uranium weapons for this purpose. If the water would be helpful to future exploration, it would be good to make sure that it is drinkable, not radioactive.

And now for our next trick... (1)

mahdi13 (660205) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802775)

...we shall send a monkey to the surface of the Sun to see if it can survive the x-rays/gamma rays/solar winds/radiation/heat

And if we accidentally destroy the moon... (1)

Znonymous Coward (615009) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802782)

the title waves should only last for a few hundred years.

How's that for shock and awe?

This is the ultimate job! (5, Funny)

mattsucks (541950) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802783)

Remember when you were a kid, and wanted to be an astronaut? And remember also when you were a kid, how cool it was to smash things together just to see what would happen?

George Bush was right (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802788)

if we don't bomb the moon then "THE TERRORISTS WILL ALREADY HAVE WON".

i pledge my full backing against such a patriotic and USA-strengthening move.

At last i will be able to sleep safely in my panic room knowing that terrorists will no longer to use the moon as a base.

Lunar Hotels (1)

Jason1729 (561790) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802799)

When do the bookies start taking bets on which chain will be the first to expand to the moon? Hilton Storms? Best Western - Sea of Tranqulity?

Jason
ProfQuotes [profquotes.com]

Nasa's Spin... (1)

irontiki (607290) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802804)

..."Saddam Hussein is alive and well in a bunker on the moon, Mr. President."

Polar Night? [usra.edu] It sounds like Nasa's been playing with the Military Operation Name Generator [ftrain.com] .

Bombing the moon (1)

infiniphonic (657188) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802806)

TAKE THAT MOON !

When Things Fall Apart (1)

oaf357 (661305) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802810)

Let's say these "bunker buster" probes are fired, hit the surface of the moon, and shatter. What then? Or what happens when they don't penetrate? Hell, they might penetrate so well that this entire experiment becomes like the lost sopository scene in "Trainspotting". Why are they looking for water up there any way. We all know it's nothing but cheese.

a new era of weapons testing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802812)

as its so damn distracting having to wage a fake and illegal war in order to test weapons, the US has decided to do science a great deed and test its next generation of bogus "anti-terror" weaponry on virgin rock.

And i'll bet they still manage to kill some british forces with them.

cheese (4, Funny)

DanThe1Man (46872) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802818)

I think they are really just trying to find a better source for cheese.

Little know fact: The cheese mines on earth are dwindling

Re:cheese (1)

EugeneK (50783) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802889)

The moon is not made of green cheese. It is made of FREEDOM CHEESE!

Nowhere to hide!!! (1)

ahkbarr (259594) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802821)

Gotcha now, Saddam!! Thought you finally found a place to hide, well, you're in for a surprise now!!

Bet it's hard to get good hookers on the moon, too! eros guide [eros-guide.com] has no "moon" section yet, and cel phone reception SUCKS!

Well Saddam, if you are up there, at least your days are numbered now, and you have no access to hookers.

"Fine, I'll go build my own lunar lander! With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack!" - Bender

weight? (1)

GlassUser (190787) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802824)

Aren't these bunker buster bombs a tad heavy?

Water on the moon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802837)

Weee... that's as important as looking for green pussies on Mars. At least NASA found out they can get more attention when using military equipment (at least at Combat News Network).

This Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802838)

Is sheer Lunacy!

British support forthcoming (5, Funny)

mao che minh (611166) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802839)

In a scheduled press conference, British Prime Minister Tony Blair will announce that he fully supports the US action against the moon, much to the behest of the Labor Party.

Iraqi intelligence officials are reporting that the moon intends on defending itself against the crusaders to the end, and has already prepared the graves for thousands of imperialist satans.

Hrmmm (1)

RightInTheNeck (667426) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802843)

What a coincidence...didnt China just say very recently they were going to the moon to see if they could mine resources? Dont bother setting up an embassy on the moon China....because oops that pesky metric system always throws us off.

This is why... (1)

warpath (19103) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802844)

...they are so anti-US on the moon. I think this is also what will eventually cause the Martians to invade. I mean, after they see how we treat our own moon...

yes, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802847)

Yes, but will they be able to get Barbara Bain or Martin Landau? It's no fun blowing up the moon without them!

Trend? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5802853)

"Now the BBC is reporting a new proposal to attack the lunar poles with "Bunker Buster" missiles to liberate a detectable amount of water."

Any time things get blown up we need to use the word liberate now!

I was going to say (1)

IWantMoreSpamPlease (571972) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802862)

"So *that's* where Baghdad Bob is hiding", but with all the other comments, it's sorta moot.

Just what we need... (1)

Lord Bitman (95493) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802864)

This is just what we need as our first contact with the moon people!

iraq (0)

alitaa (636041) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802865)

don't have enought bombing already with bagdadh?

woha (1)

rabtech (223758) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802869)

Is anyone else having flashbacks to the book/movie "The Time Machine"?

So who gets to live underground and who gets to be food?

Moonboom (0)

violent.ed (656912) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802870)

So, they want to find water on the moon eh? by blowing it up eh? Forget "Armageddon" and "Deep Impact", it wont be a Asteroid/Comet coming from deep space that will crash into and totally obliterate the earth & destroy all the life on it with it, it will be our friendly nightime reading companion (yes i have bad vision from reading in the moonlight). What has the moon done to us to deserve this!?! its not like it has a pimple or sumthin we have to pop.

If they want to find water on the moon, go looking for that bottle of Evian that Alan Shepard left behind after playin a few holes of golf.

even if they dont totally knock the moon off its orbit (which they probably wont do with just a few lil probes that use bunker buster tech) the idea of big chunks of moon flying wildly into the earths atmosphere dosnt sound too good either.

Pre-emptive lunar strike (1)

RealErmine (621439) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802885)

I can see the presidential press conference now:

"It is imperitive that we deal the Moonites a crippling blow in decisive fashion.
I can see them up there. They wave tubes of toothpaste at me.
They speak to me.
No! My thoughts are my own!"

In Other News... (2, Funny)

limekiller4 (451497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5802890)

(Reuters) In other news, NASA unveiled plans today to hit Geraldo Rivera over the noggin with a ball-peen hammer to see if any brains could be detected in the ensuing plume. Critics claim that the odds of success are too small to warrant the effort.
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