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Canterwood Motherboards Refined

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the grey-poupon dept.

Hardware 74

YingYang writes "With Intel's i875P (otherwise known as Canterwood) chipset launch a couple of weeks ago, we were shown what an 800MHz System Bus can do for performance of the Pentium 4. At the time however, there were few Taiwanese OEM motherboards out and test-beds used to showcase the new chipset and throttled-up P4, were based on Intel designed motherboards. Now however, the Canterwoods are beginning to flow out of Taiwan and vendors like Abit and Asus have put together boards with a ton of integrated features and performance, that reminds us of the days of the 'BX,' when Intel chipsets were the only way to fly. Check out this Abit/Asus Canterwood head to head comparison at HotHardware."

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74 comments

fp?? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874460)

who's yo daddy!!

Frist Post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874464)

This is my Frist post.

Sincerely,

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Tr0llKore cums to get j00 (-1, Troll)

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Kids these days... (-1, Offtopic)

evilviper (135110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874472)

In my time, we didn't have computers that could do trillions of mathematical computations every second. We had to do things the old fashioned way... copying off the guy next to you.

Re:Kids these days... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874479)

Are you going to show your big ugly donkey teeth when you smile to that lame joke?

Re:Kids these days... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874487)

lol

Re:Kids these days... (-1, Offtopic)

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MY COCK IS RED WITH MASTURBATION (-1, Troll)

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RMS forced to use windows! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874478)

It's too funny. [cheats4us.org]

These look great (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874483)

Is there anything they canterwood do?

Neat, let me see if I can make it work (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874498)

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Suck my King sized cock (-1, Troll)

(TK3)Dessimat0r (669834) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874500)

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Is this worth the price? (1, Interesting)

Blaine Hilton (626259) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874503)

Unless you are doing some serious number crunching such as CAD or video editing is this FSB increase really worth the price? I don't even think playing 3d games at 200fps really makes a difference then 150fps either...

Need to create a mySQL table [webcalc.net] ?

Re:Is this worth the price? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874579)

maybe you should play something more than xbill. the rest of us always need more power.

btw, when does XDarl hit the net?

Re:Is this worth the price? (1)

The Analog Kid (565327) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874619)

The FSB increase is not for the games right now, its for the games of the future. Look at Star Trek Elite Force 2 (which by the way is stunning on a Radeon 9800 PRO, look here [ritualistic.com] at it) With that 800mhz FSB it may just give you a little more FPS.

Re:Is this worth the price? (-1, Offtopic)

Deltan (217782) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874649)

That depends on how much value you place on increasing the length of your E-Penis.

Re:Is this worth the price? (4, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 11 years ago | (#5875769)

I don't even think playing 3d games at 200fps really makes a difference then 150fps either...

This ignorant statement gets repeated (With, of course, ever-increasing frame rates plugged into it) so often that I feel compelled to blow it away here before it gets voted up by some mod bastards.

The "fps" rating is an average. As the number of polygons and lights in a scene changes over time, so does the time to render a frame. You might have 150fps average but get, say, 20 fps when you walk into a big open room and find eight or nine people blowing each other away with assorted lighting effects and so on occurring.

Also, more bandwidth means you can sustain higher fill rates which in turn means you can run higher resolutions. While this is much less of an issue now between CPU and video card because of onboard T&L which we have enjoyed greatly since nvidia brought it to PC gaming with the GeForce 256, pushing textures still depends on bus bandwidth. Anything memory-intensive does as well, so doing video encoding (a much more common practice than you think; witness all the DVD copy software out there) is highly dependent on memory bandwidth. Since intel is not using an integrated memory controller, this makes a big difference. AMD doesn't need as much FSB speed in the Athlon 64 and Opteron as intel needs in P4, because they have an integrated memory controller.

Re:Is this worth the price? (1)

smeat (18128) | more than 11 years ago | (#5882991)

I can play quake 3 and monitor my FPS. It never drops below 125 FPS. That is what I have it capped at because there is no need for it to be higher. So you are wrong.

Re:Is this worth the price? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 11 years ago | (#5888251)

That's nice. If I look at my framerate while playing, say, tactical ops, my "average" is 50fps but it sometimes drops as low as 20. I could get overall higher frame rates but I have the resolution cranked up pretty far.

If you are not pushing your graphics card, then you are not qualified to speak on this subject.

Moderators are GAY (-1)

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Side mount IDE connectors (3, Interesting)

brejc8 (223089) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874508)

Anyone know why they are sticking the IDE sockets on their side [hothardware.com] ?

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (2, Insightful)

GiorgioG (225675) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874538)

Going to take a guess and say it's easier to connect a cable that way.

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874543)

It allows the cable to flow more naturally out and away from the motherboard.... Also, it moves the insertion and removal stress lateral to the MB, so you don't flex it....

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874648)

I like to put lots of periods... pretty much everywhere, really.... in my sentences.... mostly because.... I like to make things more annoying to........ read...

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874710)

fuck you.......... as.......shole.........

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5875166)

Those "..."'s are ellipses, not periods.

dumbass ...

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874656)

Long PCI/AGP cards often extend past the IDE/Floppy connectors. Mounting them on their side allows the longer cards in such systems. They would block each other previously.

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (1)

billcopc (196330) | more than 11 years ago | (#5879325)

Right, so instead of the board flexing, you just break off the entire connector off its pins.. excellent!

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874545)

To reduce cable clutter?
Because they can?
Because its Intel?

Some purchasing clerk bulk purchansed side mounted IDE connectors at a car boot sale?

To make the Internet faster, of course! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874574)

Why does Intel do anything??? :-)

Re:Side mount IDE connectors (1)

jaysuncle (112065) | more than 11 years ago | (#5883999)

The side facing connector is for parallel ATA RAID. You can have both SATA and PATA RAID on the ASUS motherboard.

this is "the" ddr chip. (5, Interesting)

Superfarstucker (621775) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874510)

This is the chip that kills intel's god awful dependency on rambus, about time. VIA did release a chipset that supported ddr quite some time back IIRC, but the performance was god awful so it was 'overlooked'. It appears as if this one beats out rambus on performance which is a "good thing"(tm)

VIA's chips (3, Interesting)

aliens (90441) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874688)

Actually the performance wasn't so bad. The problem was that there were legal issues concerning the VIA's right to make such chipsets. This led to few large OEM mobo makers to use the chips, making it hardly worth investing in.

Now that the issues are settled though, you can expect to see more competition from VIA's new P4 chipset that will support 800Mhz FSB CPU's.

Parent is entirely wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5887045)

This is the chip that kills intel's god awful dependency on rambus, about time. VIA did release a chipset that supported ddr quite some time back IIRC, but the performance was god awful so it was 'overlooked'.

The i875 is not the chip that kills intel's god awful dependency on rambus, that was the i845D [digit-life.com] released in December 2001, and absolutely ubiquitous in review systems and consumer PCs since then.

VIA's P4X266 was not overlooked because of the performance, which was perfectly decent, but because Intel sued [eetimes.com] VIA for patent infringement over it, causing most motherboard manufacturers to avoid it for fear of jeopardizing their relationship with Intel. VIA eventually set up a platform division mostly to sell motherboards based around the P4X266 because almost no-one else would.

Confident exposition, "facts" that anyone who's even read a few articles on any hardware review site in the past year should know are false, +5 interesting. Man, that is not a good sign...

Lick the cum from the Lord's phallus (-1)

(TK)Dessimat0r (668222) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874515)

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Re:Patrick Stewart 0wnz j00 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874555)

j00 need to relax, mang...

Will Intel ever go away? (3, Interesting)

BenDalton (573850) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874573)

Not only does Intel dominate the processor market, also Intel's chipsets run many of the best motherboards. I'm starting to wonder if Intel will ever see any real competition. We all know AMD, although more bang for your buck in many instances, will never be the dominate chip maker at this rate. Anyone see any upcoming companies that will challenge intel's deathgrip on the #1 position in this industry?

Re:Will Intel ever go away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874595)

pfft...

ServerWorks ownz Intel.

BTW, my worst nightmares often involve VIA...

Re:Will Intel ever go away? (5, Interesting)

asreal (177335) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874665)

Do you really want them to go away? I am perfectly content with Intel having a deathgrip on #1 and setting standards, with smaller companies like AMD providing price/performance competition to keep them honest.

competition (4, Interesting)

dpilot (134227) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874831)

That only works if people actually buy the competitive products that are supposed to keep Intel honest.

One guy who got deservedly lambasted on Usenet years ago said, "I like having AMD and Cyrix around, since they keep Intel's prices down for me." AMD and Cyrix aren't in the business so others can buy Intel's chips more cheaply. For all of our innovation, we're in a really STUPID industry, because for practically its entire history, computing has simply moved from one monopoly to another. From IBM to Microsoft, and now it's apparent that Microsoft is on the wane, because Intel is emerging as the One Dominator. Only for intervals where one monopoly is falling and another rising do we have real competition. I know it's been Wintel for over a decade, but really Microsoft has been in the driver's seat. That's changing, right now.

Re:competition (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5875770)

I know it's been Wintel for over a decade, but really Microsoft has been in the driver's seat. That's changing, right now.
What, is intel & Microsoft about to Merge?

Re:competition (1)

dpilot (134227) | more than 11 years ago | (#5876869)

No, Microsoft is prying itself out of the driver's seat with stunts like License V6. With Microsoft diminishing, the Intel side of Wintel is coming to the front, and the key tool of their monopoly is IA64.

Re:Will Intel ever go away? (4, Interesting)

el_avatar (661101) | more than 11 years ago | (#5875065)

I agree 100 percent that competition is what keeps Intel "honest," and I don't really think it's bad at all either that intel always takes the number one spot on most benchmarks, even if they win by a little bit, because it makes AMD strive hard to make competive yet cost-effective products, and then on the VIA side, with the new EDEN processors and such, seems they are venturing into a domain that is much demanded by the geek-world: silent hardware. I say, Intel is cool cause they lead, and if you can't afford their processors or mobos, then just kick-it AMD style! As long as I am a poor post-grad payin off loans, i'll be going AMD, while secretly dreaming of one of those perty P4's!

-the av

Re:Will Intel ever go away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5879261)

Check out gotapex.com. They had a complete Dell system with monitor for $389 a couple weeks ago. (Keep checking; they post a ton of new deals every day.)

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No way... (1)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874604)

I loved my Asus A7N8X motherboards so much I bought 4 of em. Nothing intel can do can pry me away from this! If they want my business, they gotta drop the prices.

Springdale 865 Chipset (4, Informative)

DeadBugs (546475) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874627)

The Springdale 865 chipset has started to show up in motherboards. The price in nearly $100 less. And the 2 chipsets are nearly identical as quoted from this article [cnet.com]

"In many respects, the 875P is identical to Intel's forthcoming Springdale chipset, which will launch next month for the mainstream PC market. Both have an 800MHz FSB and offer support for dual-channel DDR400 memory, Serial ATA, AGP 8X, Gigabit Ethernet, and Intel's own Hyper-Threading technology. In fact, both chipsets are manufactured using the same .13-micron process. But only those components that pass Intel's stringent requirements, including optimum timing (Intel calls this Performance Acceleration Technology, or PAT), are qualified as 875P. Intel has different requirements for those components that will qualify as Springdale."

WHERE??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5875259)

where do you see them available?

Re:WHERE??? (1)

DeadBugs (546475) | more than 11 years ago | (#5875797)

Newegg.com [newegg.com]

MSI Motherboard with 865PE Chipset $105

Re:Springdale 865 Chipset (1)

LightwaveNet (229843) | more than 11 years ago | (#5876091)

From a Feb 19th intel press release:

"In addition to delivering high performance microprocessors, Intel will introduce two chipsets, codenamed Springdale and Canterwood, during the first half of the year. These new chipsets are designed to deliver a balanced platform with innovative features valued by home and office PC users. The Canterwood chipset will support Hyper-Threading Technology and have new features such as dual channel DDR400 memory support, a fast 800 MHz system bus, AGP8X and integrated Serial ATA/RAID. Canterwood-based platforms will enable the highest levels of performance for Intel® Pentium® 4 processor-based desktop PCs.

The Springdale chipset is designed to deliver improved productivity, stability and reliability for corporations' desktop PCs. Features include Intel's next generation integrated graphics, soft RAID, a new architecture designed to increase Gigabit Ethernet networking performance, dual channel DDR400 memory and Intel Stable Driver Technology."

Granted that doesnt say much different... :P

I cant find existance of any 865 chipset boards out yet either... and nothing on intel's site...

watch out AMD (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874639)

This could very well put the desktop performance lead firmly into Intel's hands.

The 3.0 GHz P4 with 200 MHz FSB and dual channel DDR400 should handily beat the Athlon XP 3200+, and it will likely be priced less initially since Intel expects to introduce a 3.2 GHz part at the same time. That part will have a large performance margin over anything AMD has or will introduce this year.

I don't think they will get this technology into the Xeons soon enough to fight off Opteron, though, or even to take the performance lead for x86 servers.

Re:watch out AMD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5875124)

You can already get Xeons with a 533MHz FSB and dual channel 266MHz ram from Dell, have a look at their workstations.

I have a dual 2.4 GHz Xeon box at work and it absolutely flies, although bearing in mind that it's a workstation - I don't know if this stuff is available in server boxes yet.

BX chipset (2, Informative)

_N0EL (245472) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874666)

... the "BX", a chipset for the Pentium 3 ...


Intel's BX chipset was for the PII but works on the PIII as well. I wonder if more PII or PIII processors were mated with this chipset over the years? I've got four BX chipset boards now (one Intel, one Tyan and two Asus) running processors from PIII 850 Coppermine to 1.3 Gig Tualatin Celerons.

Intel designed motherboard? (4, Interesting)

(H)elix1 (231155) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874667)

Ok, I've got a couple BX board still running .... That chipset was fast and performed far beyond what Intel was hoping for. My Abit BE6-II reached amazing FSB overclocking while remaining stable, and my SuperMicro SBU continues to push content in production, having the CPU updated from a PII 300 to a PIII 800. The Abit was over designed, allowing me to go from a PII 266, PII 400, PIII 500, to finally a Celeron 566@952. The chip had legs.

Contrast this to the Intel boards, however. They were soo bloody afraid of someone running the CPU faster than the spec, that they tended to not handle the additional voltages or clock multipliers. Intel designed motherboard is not an asset in my book.

As for the chipset itself, it will be some time before it proves it's salt. I got burned badly with the i840 chipset debacle and stranded with the GX chipset. The i840 was what drove me to AMD on the workstation side.

Re:Intel designed motherboard? (1)

iomud (241310) | more than 11 years ago | (#5875014)

The one thing I can say about intel motherboards from my experience they are among the most stable. I've had many other asus, msi via based motherboards that all seemed to wig out on me at one point or another. It could just be bad luck, but I've never had any significant reset-the-bios-with-a-jumper type problems with an intel board.

Re:Intel designed motherboard? (2, Interesting)

Aryeh Goretsky (129230) | more than 11 years ago | (#5876378)

Hello,

It's important to keep in mind that just like automobile manufacturers, motherboard manufacturers make products targeted at different markets.

Just as automobile enthusiasts [nhra.org] replace stock carburetors and transmissions with performance parts, overbore engines, modify ECUs and so forth, computer enthusiasts [hardocp.com] tweak their BIOSes, replace stock heatsinks with watercooling, use rounded cables, et cetera.

But for the overwhelming majority of automobile or computer users out there, they get by just fine on with their Fords or Chevys or Dells or Gateways. While Ferraris [ferrari.com] and Falcon Northwests [falcon-nw.com] are fast, how often is the average driver going to need to go 150MPH or get involved in a lanparty frag-fest? It's important to keep in perspective that the overwhelming majority of automobile and computer drivers perform routine tasks like driving back and forth from work, word processing, going down to the corner grocery, web surfing, and so forth. And for those types of activities, a Saturn or eMachine is going to do the job just as well as the most exotic car or PC you can imagine.

Having worked around average (read: non-computer industry) computer users long enough, I can tell you that they just don't care about what brand of CPU or type of memory their computer has, much less its CAS and RAS timings. They just want something that's inexpensive and reliable.

This is the market that Intel goes after for its motherboards. Not necessarily the end users themselves--I would imagine Intel's retail motherboard sales account for a small percentage of total motherboard sales compared to their OEM sales--but the companies who make those mass-market computers. And for those end users, that's fine. They'll probably never play a video game more challenging than Solitaire just like they'll never drive more than 120MPH. And they're more concerned about being able to get work done on their computer or getting to the dry cleaners on time to pick up the laundry then burning out a CPU or cracking an engine block.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

Re:Intel designed motherboard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5876818)

Your little car/pc metaphor was extremely annoying. Please shut up now.

FIRST TWIRLIP POST! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5874714)

This post is for Twirlip [slashdot.org] ! Gone, but not forgotten!

Keep hope alive!

Not just FSB performance (4, Interesting)

sweede (563231) | more than 11 years ago | (#5874880)

But, the new chipset provides wider pathways for everything on the system bus. your IDE channels have wider paths for data transfer. your PCI bus is wider. most current technology has a limit of only transfering around ~120 mb/sec across the whole PCI bus (which included the IDE channels).

AGP was brought around to provide faster access to the CPU/northbridge than PCI.

AMDs HyperTransport technology (which my motherboard has) widens the Bus paths between the south bridge and north bridge to 4 bits (from a 1 bit path and hypertransport can scale to 64 bit wide paths!). now all of my PCI, IDE, SATA, Onboard Audio paths are 4 bit wide capable of going at almost 800 mb/sec

This is what is going to put Intel back as the performance market leader... until that hypertransport starts getting into the 8 and 16 bit wide bus pathways....

Re:Not just FSB performance (4, Interesting)

jsoderba (105512) | more than 11 years ago | (#5875172)

Actually, the MCH-ICH interconnect appears to be a weakness for the Canterwood. At only 266 MB/s and with more and more high-bandwidth peripherals (SATA, USB 2.0, FireWire, SCSI) this link could become saturated in some IO-intensive applications. Competing chipsets all have wider datapaths [tech-report.com] .

Re:Not just FSB performance (1)

LightwaveNet (229843) | more than 11 years ago | (#5875761)

Nice page... nifty info...

However,
I would just remove that whole SiS R658 line from the printout. When It first came out I ran around trying to find when I'd beable to expect motherboard with them... 11 months later and still no motherboard manufacturer produces a retail board with them??? VaporHype.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong (1)

Wesley Felter (138342) | more than 11 years ago | (#5876025)

your IDE channels have wider paths for data transfer.

Nope.

your PCI bus is wider.

Nope; it's still 32 bit, 33 MHz.

most current technology has a limit of only transfering around ~120 mb/sec across the whole PCI bus (which included the IDE channels).

While 32/33 PCI is limited to ~120MB/s, IDE hasn't been on the PCI bus for several years.

AMDs HyperTransport technology (which my motherboard has) widens the Bus paths between the south bridge and north bridge to 4 bits (from a 1 bit path...

IIRC, most chipsets have a 16-bit link between the north and south bridges, but that's a bogus number since different chipsets use different link signaling rates. What you should really look at is the throughput of the north-south link. What you should have said is that nForce2 has 800MB/s on the north-south link and Canterwood only has 266MB/s.

Re:Wrong, wrong, and wrong (1)

sweede (563231) | more than 11 years ago | (#5878060)

The nForce2 has 800MB/s on the north-south link and Canterwood only has 266MB/s.

heh, i got how all that connects together confused.

if i remember correctly, the IDE, PCI, SATA, USB and other bus paths connect to the south bridge. if the south/north bridge link isnt very fast, that puts a hurt on the whole system.

Some Northbridges have USB and Network interfaces connected directly to it, along with the RAM interface and AGP interfaces.

As for the 1,2,4,8, etc bit comment, although the link may be 16 bits wide, it only sends 1 bit per clock cycle (from what i've read on hypertransports website http://www.hypertransport.org/). I beleive this is similar to having more pipelines in a CPU.

Even though its a 32bit CPU, only having 1 pipeline is going to put a hurt on instruction processing.

Does Abit still have fake ECC support? (1)

Wesley Felter (138342) | more than 11 years ago | (#5875858)

I wonder if Abit's latest motherboards actually support ECC or just claim to [cr.yp.to] . And speaking of ECC, has anyone seen ECC CL2 PC3200 DIMMs?

Zoom... (2, Funny)

Duncan3 (10537) | more than 11 years ago | (#5876082)

Wow, that's almost 2% faster for twice the price! What a deal.

And only 10x more power then 2% of the users can figure out what to do with.

On the other hand, it's almost enough to actually run XML based Java applications.

Re:Zoom... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5882147)

And only 10x more power then 2% of the users can figure out what to do with.

So the other 98% know exactly what to do with all that power?

Off topic grammar rant (1)

poptones (653660) | more than 11 years ago | (#5876268)

I tried reading this artcile, but couldn't get through it, because, the writing is, so, tedious.

It's great, that technology allows us all to communicate, with one another, but, it's a trajedy, the more trafficked websites, don't seem to care enough, to perform even basic grammatical editing, before publishing a story.

Grrr.

Re:Off topic grammar rant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5889065)

I hope, your post, is a, joke. You, are an, idiot. Go suck, yourself.

Waste of time (1)

Bruha (412869) | more than 11 years ago | (#5877983)

With the AMD Opteron releasing soon for the Desktop market and within a few years we'll have PCI Express Serial ATA that will hopefully be approaching the gigabit level and newer optical storage mediums the normal bus will not be standard anymore. PCI Express and AMD"s Hypertransport will definately eliminate the need for it.

But finally PC's will largely be as fast as the processor and can keep up with it or maybe even give it a run for it's money.

Hopefully now programmers when converting to 64bit code will program efficiently so computing will actually show a difference.

Re:Waste of time (1)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 11 years ago | (#5878533)

Well if someone hasn't gotten a new PC in a few years and is shopping for one this year these mb's make some wicked machines. I doubt we'll see anything mainstream to replace usual hard drives any time soon. I doubt we'll see serial ATA even get close to being fully realized for quite a while also. I intend to build a new machine at the end of the summer and am seriously looking at using mb's with this chipset.

I currently have a PC with a via chipset and i've had nothing but problems with it. I'm only buying intel chipset based mb's from now on, even if it costs me more.

Try Nvidia Nforce2 you'll never look back (1)

Bruha (412869) | more than 11 years ago | (#5878746)

I swear by these boards.. I've got the Leadtek KNCR18D-PRO with 1 gig of ram and the ATI 9700 Pro 128mb card.. the gig of ram is in 2 PC2700 333mhz in dual DDR mode which is the equivalent 666Mhz (evil) of processing godness.

The only other enhancement I did now is putting in a 120 Gig WD Caviar Special Edition with the 8mb buffer which is supposed to outclass 10k SCSI drives.

I can afford Intel but I'll support diversity in the industry and stick with AMD processors. It's cheaper in the long run becuase to make 1gig jumps in processor speed is about 1/3 it is to do on Intel chips.. And that's not including the expensive memory if it's still a RAMBUS chipset.

Minor article error (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5878181)

The 440BX chipset was for the P2, not the P3.

Re:Minor article error (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5878773)

umm... hello? they even linked the chipset page at Intel's site in the article... "optimized for the Pentium III"

[intel.com]

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