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Battlefield 1942 - Secret Weapons Interview

simoniker posted more than 11 years ago | from the never-expect-the-secret-weapon-inquisition dept.

First Person Shooters (Games) 16

John Callaham writes "HomeLAN chats with Digital Illusions producer Mikael Rudberg as he talks about Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons, the upcoming second expansion pack to their hit multiplayer shooter for publisher Electronic Arts." Seems like Battlefield 1942 has been one of the out-of-left-field smash hits of recent, and from the guys who honed their skills on Pinball Dreams for the Amiga, too.

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First Post! (-1, Troll)

anonymous cowfart (576665) | more than 11 years ago | (#5879610)

First Post!

eh (1, Insightful)

u-238 (515248) | more than 11 years ago | (#5879611)

and maybe included in this update will be some solidity in the man-on-man combat? in the current version firefights between foot soldiers is nothing more than a joke. sniping provides the exampe from which all understanding of the foot soldier fighting mechanics can be derived.... if any of you reading this have actually TRIED sniping in BF42, you know exactly what i'm talking about. accuracy is nonexistant, and thats an understatement. at first, i thought it was an attempt at realism, shoot in front of the enemy as to lead the bullet into them (the game attempting to recreate real life physics, i.e. predicting the trajectory of the bullet by aiming ahead of an enemy who is running perpendicular to you, much like in doom/quake when you shoot a rocket at a running player you do it a bit in front of them so that they run into it), but after using the games many sub machine guns i realized it was nothing more than quakes notoriously pathetic netcode. it is precisly because of this that the popularty of the many quake3 mods in existance today cowers in the shadows of thoes for the half-life engine. the only reaonse BF became as popular as it has is because of all the novelty added... tanks, planes, trucks, stationary machine gun/anti aircraft turrets. they're IMMENSLY fun and have propelled the game to the status it currently enjoys.

why can't it be like half life? i just played DOD 1.0 a few hours ago. i point the sniper crosshair at the chest of the enemy, i shoot, he dies.

i figure so long as the quake3 engine net code continues to hamper man-on-man combat and bullet physics, quake3 engine based games will rely on novelties like planes and tanks to sell themselves.

Re:eh (3, Funny)

actor_au (562694) | more than 11 years ago | (#5879710)

i just played DOD 1.0 a few hours ago. i point the sniper crosshair at the chest of the enemy, i shoot, he dies.

That was you?? Bastard!!

Re:eh (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5880117)

Obviously it's been a while sinice you played. Since the 1.31 update, about three months back, hit detection is much improved.

Oh, and you idiot, BF1942 has its own Refractor engine it's not based on Quake 3 at all.

Just stick to playing Half-Life, will ya?

Re:eh (-1)

u-238 (515248) | more than 11 years ago | (#5889402)

3d rendering has nothing to do with its netcode....

i love dumb people. i bet right now hes thinking "your a idiot"

Re:eh (1)

Ratso Baggins (516757) | more than 11 years ago | (#5880220)

It might be just you. I get pegged by snipers running. I can pick the lead by which you snipe a moving target (with any of the rifles), it's just that it takes 3 hits (or more) to kill. You're a sniper & you're aiming at the chest? that's why you "miss" all the time, go for the head! One shot no prob! Sniping in DoD is too easy...


Re:eh (1)

nekoes (613370) | more than 11 years ago | (#5880708)

Yah, I second that... maybe your facts aren't straight, but you got one thing right, BF1942 netcode is ass. I'm still waiting for a game that can pull off many player battles and not suffer from a huge lag fest.

fun but no competition... (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 11 years ago | (#5879671)

just my two cents, your milage may vary:

i own quake 1,2,3 and halflife, the latter i can't play on my mac and the former i haven't picked up except at the bi-monly lan-ing i do; i'm not a great FPS person by any means, probably somewhere in the 65th percentile. I'm in the 20th percentile when it comes to RTS games. I don't even own BF1942 and play(ed) it about once a week for 2 hours at a time on my friend's PC rig, and within 2 weeks was ranking #1 or #2 on any server I played on. There's no fun when you realize that this isn't a very competitive game, and very little teamwork is actually involved; far less than in counterstrike. Two decent players on one team can dominate the playing field. While this has alot of fun features, driving people over with a jeep, flying a Zero into a battleship to finish it off and ejecting at the last second, crawling under tanks unhurt, etc, it's just entirely way too unbalanced if two people on a 14 person team can turn the tables in a game in under 5 minutes.

Re:fun but no competition... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5880104)

^&^That is such Fucking bullshit I don't know where to start. Ranked 1 or 2 on every server? So when I look up your name on BF stats it'll be there? crap. Stick to Counter Strike you lamer, that's where you belong.

This site is crap (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5880131)

The problem with this Slash/Games site is that it is clear that the people editing it and the people responding have no fucking clue about games really, except that they play Counter Strike.

Cya, I'm off to read GameSpy, it may be lame and corporate but it isn't full of shit and half-baked claims like this.

EA has taken it, and will turn it to crap (2, Insightful)

pommaq (527441) | more than 11 years ago | (#5881049)

This is the second so-called "Expansion pack" to hit BF1942, and the game hasn't even been out for a year. Really, the new stuff in Road to Rome was *NOT* worth paying for - they could just as well have released it as a patch. I smell EA behind this (The Sims and its thousand expansions, anyone?) and I think it'll only get worse from here on, unless people see this for what it is... highway robbery.
I mean, they can't seriously expect me to cough up $30 every four months for a couple new maps+weapons, can they? BF1942 is an incredibly cool game as it is, so just keep supporting it with patches and fixes. Leave the new maps, weapons and features for the modders, or BF1943.

Re:EA has taken it, and will turn it to crap (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5881530)

Yeah, it's an expansion pack, but it offers new game modes (destroy the objective). Judging from the screenshots, the objectives could be something like "steal the secret US jet plane" or "blow up the V-2 rocket." That's a fun, immersive new game mode. Works well in games like Blackhawk Down.

I'd like to see an updated game engine, but frankly Desert Combat gives me all the fix I need for something new.

Finally, the stuff about sniping is ridiculous. Practice and you'll be able to hit running targets in the head. That's WAY easier than flying an apache in DC!

Re:EA has taken it, and will turn it to crap (1)

zoobaby (583075) | more than 11 years ago | (#5881748)

"I mean, they can't seriously expect me to cough up $30 every four months for a couple new maps+weapons, can they?"

You paid $30? It was set for $20 retail.
They do need more patches and before they should release new expansion packs for cost.

"Leave the new maps, weapons and features for the modders, or BF1943."

This is being done already, good luck finding a server that has custom maps on it though.

Of course they expect you to cough up more money (1)

LordZardoz (155141) | more than 11 years ago | (#5885293)

One of the primary reasons for a game to have an expansion pack is to get a better return on the initial investment into the game its self. The secondary, and ultimately less important reason is to release features that were cut from the game during development due to cost constraints.

An expansion does not require quite as much staff to develop, since your not starting from zero. If a game takes about 2 years to develop at a cost of say $3,000,000 dollars, you need to do better then that in sales to make a profit. If you develop an expansion pack for the above game, you can probably do so for 1/3rd the cost. If you sell to the majority of the initial customer base, instead of making 4 million on a 3 million dollar investment, you make 7 million on a 4 million dollar investment.

I would guess that the basic strategy is to only release fixed content in patches, and release new content in expansions. They will probalby also start to bundle the expansions with the base game by this time next year at the latest.


buggiest ... game ...ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5888629)

well considering i can't even get bf1942 to install and run properly, i dont think ill be picking this one up.

got the game to work and it ran ok. very buggy, but whatever it was still fun. had to reinstall win98 and everything went to hell.

just could never get the game to install and work again. i update everything under the sun, contact EA a dozen times but in the end it just wont work.

Re:buggiest ... game ...ever (1)

fiezk (588207) | more than 11 years ago | (#5889576)

I think the key word here is "W98", try upgrading to Win2k. I'm not a windows fan, but there is a huge difference in stability when upgrading from W98 to W2k..
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