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Prince of Pop-ups

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the everyone's-gotta-be-prince-of-something dept.

Patents 543

Ric writes "From the article lead paragraph: 'If you hate pop-up ads, you might blame Brian Shuster. A long-time figure in the Internet pornography world, Shuster recently received a patent for the ad format and is now looking to make some money off the sites that use it. And that's just the beginning - Shuster has a long list of pending patents, including one for pop-up audio ads that cannot be turned off.'"

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Hooray! (5, Funny)

koreth (409849) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902312)

Here's hoping lots of sites don't want to pay the license fee and stop using popups.

Re:Hooray! (4, Insightful)

Slime-dogg (120473) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902335)

No kidding. This is one patent holding that I will only object to from the sidelines, and not try to disprove. :-)

Re:Hooray! (1)

Chris_Stankowitz (612232) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902351)

He could charge something like $.01 for everytime you use it and still make a killing.

Re:Hooray! (1)

f97tosc (578893) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902453)

He could charge something like $.01 for everytime you use it and still make a killing.

I don't care if he makes a killing, what matters if there will be less pop-ups.

Any price larger than zero is bound to result in fewer pop-ups than today.

Tor

Re:Hooray! (5, Interesting)

bhsurfer (539137) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902509)

I'm not sure that giving this type of scumbag millions of dollars to play with would prevent any future annoying web "functionality". Hell, it might be providing him R&D money to do develop ways to REALLY piss people off...

Re:Hooray! (1)

harborpirate (267124) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902455)

Indeed, one day perhaps every web surfer will thank him for trying to enforce his patent.

I mean, honestly, web ads (even popups) don't bring in very much money for the most part. If companies have to pay this guy a royalty for every popup, well, the pie is pretty small already.

Here's hoping for the extinction of popup ads! Long live non-intrusive, non-annoying ads!

I hope he enforces his patent on sound ads which can't be turned off. We don't want those either!

oh, it's better than that. (5, Funny)

twitter (104583) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902518)

Here's hoping lots of sites don't want to pay the license fee and stop using popups.

It's not just the money, it's who's collecting. Anyone who wants to use a pop up having to bow down before the porn master who dreamed up the sleazy idea? Classic. I hope someone makes a big fuss and that it becomes common knowledge that advertisers are paying porn masters to be able to irritate you. Guilt by association and tribute! Suffer, you dick heads!

Re:Hooray! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902562)

"You are WRONG. A VAST VAST majority, almost ALL people, DESPISE these pictures and websites. Slashdot's audience is totally typical, and they are ABSOLUTELY and totally OUTRAGED and APPALLED."

Wrong about what? I said THAT pic wasn't illegal. For that matter it is not even a "barely legal" pic as you label it. It is an innocent pic that you have put a very nasty, ugly spin on. Look in the mirror.

Are you now speaking for the 10 million people that watch this show?

"...almost ALL PEOPLE..." Where do you get the numbers to back this up?

I have said some sites are bad. Yes, some will be busted. You say ALL sites are bad. We disagree.

I can hear Don Kings Voice (1, Insightful)

Chris_Stankowitz (612232) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902319)

Only in America!

Excellent!! (5, Interesting)

Binestar (28861) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902330)

If this guy can start charging people for using popups then these webpages won't pay and popups will start dying off. While a patent like this is mostly a bad thing, the side effects are good!

Of course I use mozilla with popup filtering enabled, so it's not really that much of an issue to me. =)

Re:Excellent!! (2, Interesting)

invultor (669012) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902392)

Yeah, but just watch the guy throwing a fit over popup blocking as his next step towards World Domination, and start throwing threats of DMCA breach around. Someone who knows better, how possible is this? Could the whole TiVo controversy be translated to the web, too?

Re:Excellent!! (1)

saintjab (668572) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902502)

I use opera, which has pop-up blocking built-in, but some ads can not be blocked. I've noticed that pop-ups have become more code intensive and actual open as an element of the page itself. These usualy have a convenient little "close" link, but it still appears, and many are in the middle of the page so it's very easy to accidentaly click the link while it is rendering. We need better blockers too it would seem.

Yeah (1)

Junky191 (549088) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902331)

"for pop-up audio ads that cannot be turned off" Axe->speaker Obnoxious

Re:Yeah (1)

pcosta (236434) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902374)

just when you thought the patent system is evil,
they come up with something like this and totally redeem themselves :)

Re:Yeah (2, Funny)

terraformer (617565) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902566)

Hmm, pardon me but I believe the proper form of that would be:
while(Sound == Obnoxious){
Axe->swing(Speaker);
}
return(Sound->Calm);
;- )

Use Mozilla ....... (4, Informative)

Jeehoba (650927) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902332)

God Bless Mozilla [mozilla.org] .. no more pop-ups. Hopefully it will still block those audio pop-ups "that can't be turned off."

Re:Use Mozilla ....... (1)

theWrkncacnter (562232) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902361)

Or Camino, or Safari. Back in the day OmniWeb used to block popups, but that was just beacuse it couldn't handle scripting :)

Re:Use Mozilla ....... (0)

Pingular (670773) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902475)

Well... Netscape has anti-popup :)

Re:Use Mozilla ....... (1)

Drakonian (518722) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902538)

What about these stupid adds that popup on the middle of the page obscuring your text? I haven't looked into them... are they JavaScript or DHTML or what? Mozilla doesn't help me with those unfortunately. JavaScript is useful enough for me not to want to turn it completely off.

Re:Use Mozilla ....... (0)

Pingular (670773) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902569)

I thought they were just flash myself.

Just Wait (1)

BaronCarlos (34713) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902557)

As an Avid Mozilla user, I'm happy about the anti-popup device.

However, eventually, when these advertizers realize that more people are not using IE, they'll start coding ways to avert that security blanket.

My confusion around this issue is:

Why do these advertizers think we (the population who blocks this garbage) want to see their trash on our screen?

I'm sure this has been answered before, but the answers have not been satisfactory to me.

There's a simpler way... (5, Funny)

ChuckleBug (5201) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902333)

Why doesn't he just cut through all the crap and patent the very idea of being a complete and utter asshole? Then he could demand royalties from all other assholes when they display their assholitudinism. Then, if they get pissed off and come after him, he can claim that in itself was assholish and sue for *that*.

It's the perfect plan. What could go wrong?

Re:There's a simpler way... (5, Funny)

Eccles (932) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902368)

Why doesn't he just cut through all the crap and patent the very idea of being a complete and utter asshole?

Way too much prior art...

Re:There's a simpler way... (4, Funny)

Binestar (28861) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902419)

Why doesn't he just cut through all the crap and patent the very idea of being a complete and utter asshole?

Way too much prior art...


Since when has this stopped the USPO from issuing patents?

Re:There's a simpler way... (1)

Dr. Photo (640363) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902443)

>> Why doesn't he just cut through all the crap and patent the very idea of being a complete and utter asshole?

> Way too much prior art...

Dammit, you beat me to it!

Asshole. ;-)

Prior art, yes, but (1)

Trelane, the Squire (608266) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902469)

the problem is getting anyone to admit to it! ;)

No Lawyer would draft that patent! (2, Funny)

Sagarian (519668) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902417)

Their entire profession infringes and could be liable for centuries of back damages!

Re:There's a simpler way... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902490)

->"assholitudinism"
Dude, I worship you.

Anyone have this guy's address? (5, Interesting)

ManoMarks (574691) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902334)

To inundate him with junk mail, of course, and also to hit him up for money. Or just hit him. No, wait, I'm a Quaker. I keep forgetting that...

Yeah! Ralski that bastard! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902456)

Time to fire up Roboform and send Mr Nice Guy some free mail, Pron etc. Send all those free tampons to him, at work and at home! Nail this asshole now! The POWER of the net!

find the bugger.. (1, Funny)

autof0zz (595829) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902339)

how about the /. crowd find the rascal and give him a taste of his own popups..

Good (5, Funny)

dmarx (528279) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902344)

Maybe this means that websites will stop using pop-ups.
Oh, and I think I devised a way to turn off the pop-up audio:
1. Press the power button on your computer's speakers.
2. When you're done with the site, press the power button again.
Gee, maybe I should patent this.

Re:Good (1)

theWrkncacnter (562232) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902396)

I think a lot of browsers will let you block sound on websites. Personally I think any sound on a website is annoying. Nothing worse than going to someone's homepage with horrible amounts of animated giffs and having it play the hamster dance techno remix at you.

Re:Good (1)

Chris_Stankowitz (612232) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902408)

Did you ask his permission to reverse-engineer this? Becarefull he can sue now.

poetic revenge (5, Funny)

Acts of Attrition (635948) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902349)

he's in internet porn eh? Maybe someone can fix it so he can't "pop-up" anymore

Re:poetic revenge (1)

Skweetis (46377) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902531)

You know, I think this might be the first time a goatse.cx link would be on topic...

This might be a good thing! (1)

bitdamaged (177421) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902353)

I'm all against stupid patent tricks but if someone can get rid of some popups by trying to get license fees for them I'm all for that

His last name... (1)

tekrat (242117) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902354)

Should be changed to Shyster.
Then it would be more accurate....

Re:His last name... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902369)

Dammit, you stole my joke! And only 1 minute before I planned to post it!

what the porn business needs (0, Offtopic)

joFFeman (574971) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902357)

what the porn business needs are more ron jeremys. men with ethics, morals, and nicknames shared with sega mascots. i have no love for this popup chap.

Good! (4, Interesting)

earthforce_1 (454968) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902367)

Hopefully he charges astronomical licence fees for both "innovations" retroactive to the day he filed. Hopefully that will be the nail in the coffin that drives these scourges off the desktop.

Heck, I wish somebody had patented spam as well!

Bring on the patents! (0)

positive (12069) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902377)

When pop-up ads are outlawed, only outlaws will use pop-up ads.

How Ironic (5, Funny)

UCRowerG (523510) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902378)

Wonderful! An anti-popup web article that uses popup advertising!

Re:How Ironic (1)

Dr. Photo (640363) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902498)

[Sinister voice]: Oh, they won't be using pop-ups, for long...

[Muahahahahahhahahha or insert-your-favorite-nefarious-chuckle-here]

Cannot be turned off? (1)

sOEMA (15230) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902381)

*yawn* Thank you for promoting the latest Mozilla.

Great.. (2, Insightful)

Subnirvana337 (572385) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902389)

For him, he's living out the american dream. The freedom to create and sell an idea.

Unfortunately, the mass population HATES this idea and in fact people have gone so far to block this technology with software.

This should get intresting...

Popups are similar to telemarketers. Often, the consumer is not intrested in the product. People who disliked this technology came up with devices to block telemarketers and now there is a legislative "do not call" list. It would be pretty hard to have a "do not popup" list. Unless the ISPs stepped in and placed ALL their users and perhaps had to pay a fee to keep the pop ups away.

just my 2 cents worth...

Re:Great.. (4, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902462)

Popups arent similar to telemarketers. If you don't like them, you needn't visit sites that use them. They aren't unsolicited in that regard.

People throw around phrases like "vote with your wallet" but seldom practice what they preach. Don't like a certain method of advertising? Don't visit those sites.

Same as if (for example) Nickelodeon started running ads for cigarettes and beer during "The Wiggles". Stop watching nickelodeon.

But everyone sits through it, not wanting to be inconvenienced by their principles, and waits for some sort of law to make it alright.

And now we have a billion zillion conflicting laws restricting what we can or cannot do. Bah.

Re:Great.. (1)

st0rmcold (614019) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902555)


Agreed, people confuse this with spam too much, going to a website means you are soliciting everything the website has to offer, you can't complain about that.

Ha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902391)

I'll just patent pissing people off and take all his money.

I think he'll find... (4, Insightful)

radish (98371) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902399)


including one for pop-up audio ads that cannot be turned off

I think he'll find that everything can be turned off.

Re:I think he'll find... (0)

Pingular (670773) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902537)

/me pressed *power off* button

Ways to turn off audio (3, Funny)

chargen (90268) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902561)

1) don't use a sound card. In the case of intregrated audio chips, buy a dremel tool
2) Turn off your speakers
3) Cut off your ears. See note regarding dremel tool in 1)

-Pete

I've applied for a patent... (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902400)

On having a site dedicated to bashing a company's (or companies) products and policies, while at the same time selling sed company large blocks of advertising space in the middle of articles.

It's called the "Method for a Hypocritical Advertising Revenue System". Dig deep Taco, I'm coming after you first.

Not Possible (1)

limekiller4 (451497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902403)

Ric writes:
"...including one for pop-up audio ads that cannot be turned off."

Ha. Hahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.

Too bad there is no moderation for "not terribly insightful but damned succinct."

actually, you should blame me.... (1)

laugau (144794) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902409)

You see, I am the guy who actually clicks through the ads to go to the advertised sites. If it weren't for me, then no traffic would be generated by the ads and hense no advertising revenue.

I think I di this because I really like to screw people over.

Also, I don't use squid or other technologies to block the pop-up ads because doingso would spoil all of my fun.

I also like to drive 45 MPH on the highway during rush hour while I yammer away on my cell phone.

um... (1)

stomv (80392) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902410)

mozilla [mozilla.org] lets you just turn them off.

when was the last time pr0n resulted in a turn off? Oh yeah -- that goat website.

Re:um... (1)

huh_ (53063) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902478)

mozilla lets you just turn them off.

Although, how come I don't see it in the preferences anymore? I know you can still edit prefs.js though.

wait a sec... (1)

Baron_911 (664953) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902412)

So uhhh somebody put 'window.open' functionality in JavaScript, and this guy can patent it? That's all a pop-up add is, isn't it? I'm confused. I need his e-mail so I can foward my Yahoo bulk mail to him.... >:)

Re:wait a sec... (1)

frodo from middle ea (602941) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902560)

Well if some one can patent a cookie retrival process as 1-click processing ..then why not ?

Jeez....this guy will never stop (1)

dethl (626353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902420)

Other Shuster patents include similar technology to take control of a user's computer and send them to unexpected Web sites

Whats to prevent this guy from opening a page to a site which opens a pop-up ad, which opens a page to another, rinse...repeat?

Patents are good and all, but they need to be analyzed for abuses.

I'm conflicted!!! (4, Funny)

I'm a racist. (631537) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902421)

Do I like this man or hate him?

Pro: He promotes porn on the Internet.
Pro: He will sue a few people into not using pop-ups, at least for a little while.
Con: He "created" annoying pop-up ads.

The situation would be similar if Hillary Rosen, remaining the bitch that she is, was really hot and liked to give me blowjobs...

Okay, well, the blowjobs would easily win out. But you get the idea.

Re:I'm conflicted!!! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902521)

Don't be. It's not his fault. He didn't "create" anything. GeoCities deployed the first pop-up ad in mid 1997. I know this because I did, and I'm currently looking at the source code I wrote to do it (scheduling, etc.). Keep in mind this was during a time when internet companies couldn't figure out how to make a profit... oh wait, never mind that last point. I'll still be happy to see 'em go.

I don't get it... (1)

Mobster75 (234793) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902426)

Shuster's pop-up patent, known officially as the "Traffic Management Utility" patent...

Ok, how is a pop-up ad window considered a Traffic Management Utility?? I just don't get it....

- mobster75!

Re:I don't get it... (2)

Strike (220532) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902545)

Easy: institute pop-up ads on your site and see if you can Manage to keep any Traffic.

Patent (2, Funny)

Dugsmyname (451987) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902430)

I think I'll patent annoying stupid people and make a million bucks. I don't know which is more intrusive. Pop-ups, or annoying stupid people.

Utterly weird (1)

nagora (177841) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902432)

The article makes it sound like it's difficult to find prior art yet the guy was just using the features in JS that some else put there. This is like buying a shovel and then patenting using a shovel to dig holes; what the hell does the PO think the shovel/JS was made for? How much better prior art can there be than the fact that he's just doing what it was designed for?!!?"!@@AAS#~goddamnpatentoffficeWeHatesssItFOR EVERRRR.

TWW

It is worth their while (1)

nuggz (69912) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902436)

Why do companies do this?
It is worth their while to do so.

If my bank had annoying popups, I would write and complain.
You can use browsers that disable this.

Like spam, if people refused to buy services from companies that use these techniques, they would stop. But they DO work, and as long as they work, they will do this.

Hmm (5, Insightful)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902442)

This is a rhetorical question : how can one possibly patent a 'feature' built into web-browsers? Popups are only possible because some idiot decided that opening another window without the users consent (and even doing this recursively!) was "friendly" behavoir and belonged in the javascript spec. The same applies to sound. This is another consequence of our failing legal system (lets be honest : its on life support at best. Its BROKEN. While the basic tenants of judges, juries, and appeals might be good, the implementation is falling apart). If the legal system worked without application of large sums of money (and I would not call giving the victory to the one with the money 'justice') this patent would have no meaning.

michael.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902444)

JUST SHUT UP

Maybe the Browsers will 'learn' to block it (1)

saintjab (668572) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902445)

IANAL, but wouldn't the fact that it is being copyrighted mean that anyone can get the 'formula' to how it works? Then we can created filters or blocking utilities to stop them alltogether. This is exactly the kind of crap we should be creating legislation against, rather then rewarding patents to. This is pure criminal behavior from my point of view. But thats just my opionion.

I have to p (5, Funny)

L. VeGas (580015) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902447)

So in other words...

Patents pending for porno pop-up prince?

Swift, merciless, brutal death is required (4, Funny)

mao che minh (611166) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902451)

"Shuster has a long list of pending patents, including one for pop-up audio ads that cannot be turned off."

He must be murdered immediately. The consequences of any other course of action are too dire to even be conceptualized.

Murder.

Re:Swift, merciless, brutal death is required (4, Funny)

Have Blue (616) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902570)

No, the correct course of action is to place large speakers outside his house playing audio that cannot be turned off 24 hours a day until he shoots himself.

Popup ads are irrelevant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902454)

Popup ads are becoming increasingly more irrelevant. There is only one browser that is
still
affected by them, and that is Internet Explorer. However, with options out there like
AvantBrowser(Popup blocking, tabbed browsing) that use the Explorer rendering engine, there
really is no reason for someone to continue to be bothered by them.




The only reason that popups survive is because the "average" internet user, running vanilla
Internet Explorer will see them, and one out of every few thousand might click through.




Eventually companies using these tactics will switch to viable advertising solutions.




Also Patented . . . (1)

Dausha (546002) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902458)

He also has a patent on the "use of the Internet to display, via browsing GUI device, person(s) in various states of undress; may also include various suggestive poses." He plans on going after sites that infringe on his patent. I wonder what impact this will have on the Internet.

Where's that kill button again... (1)

Erthwin (671453) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902463)

Yes, I'd like to patent the pop-up.
Uh, sir - that's been in use for quite some time now.
I see, well has anyone claimed it?

No sir.
Yes, I'd like to patent the pop-up...
Will it make you go away sir?

--
Left, left, I hadda good brain but it left...

Doh (1)

lspd (566786) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902465)

The folks who are hoping this will be the end of pop-ups are overlooking the obvious. This guy isn't going to sue anyone with the finances to kill his patent, he's going to chase after the little guys trying to scrape a living off the internet so he can cash in without getting his patent invalidated.

I want money. (1)

AnotherSteve (447030) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902467)

I still do most of my browsing with a dial-up modem. Graphic ads are a big enough drain on my bandwidth as it is. If advertisers are going to start shoving audio tracks down my connection, they ought to be paying me back for the wasted resources.

Good Intentions... (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902481)

"The technology has since been abused, he said, leading to the current state of affairs -- porn Web sites with endless loops that sometimes cannot be escaped until the accidental visitor turns off their computer..."

"He even suggested that, armed with the patent, his firm will be able to clamp down pop-up abuse."
Ha!

"In lab tests, the response rate to what might be called "pop-up audio" has been outstanding, Shuster said, meaning such ads may soon be interrupting plenty of Web surfers, or at least those who don't manage to turn off their speakers fast enough."
Double Ha!

Who is this guy kidding? We know he's going to do some shitty things, lets just hope Shuster gets enough cash money to sue the pants off people without a liscense to use pop-ups. Maybe if we're lucky his liscensing terms will make it cost inefective to keep using pop-ups for revenue

Can't be turned off? (1)

sporty (27564) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902486)

Can't you turn off popups by disabling javascript, or mucking through the source of moz and removing the javascript function for window.open?

Good thing (1, Redundant)

Iscariot_ (166362) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902487)

I actually think this is a good thing. Why? Because this might force people to stop with their damned popup ads or else pay royalties to this guy.

Maybe more patents could be used in this way in order to stop other anoying internet irritants.

Just my two cents.

Prior to 1997 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902492)

The pop-up patent was filed in 1998, and under patent law, challengers would have to show similar technology being used prior to 1997.

I bet someone used it before this spammer figured it out.

How about I patent the idea of blocking popups? (1)

robinsoz (605312) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902497)

Probably already been done, but what if I patent the idea of blocking popups? Then I could sell the patent to this guy and he could go around charging everybody for blocking the popups that he patented. Either way, he would win. This is a joke - if anyone is inclined to take it seriously.

Pop-ups??? Oh... (1)

giaguara (632198) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902504)

What's a pop-up? Oh ... right. I haven't seen any since I started to use Camino / Chimera, so for a year ...

Lets face it IE should pay licence or stop pop-ups (1)

pacc (163090) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902505)

Of course, as a non-commercial project Mozilla has to keep away from any patent infringement.

I've applied for my own patent.... (1)

mustangsal66 (580843) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902507)

I thinks it's kind of crazy to allow a chuck of code to be patented. How I wish I was the first to patent the use of the image tag in HTML.

By the way...

I'm in the process of patenting 4" square pieces of a 1mm thick woven material, used to remove waste products from skin. It also stipulates that these "sheets" will be strung together in line, and stored on a "roll".

I think most people would use such a product, and can't wait to reap the rewards!

Also trying to patent the use of a special mixture of gasses (70% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, with a few secret ingredients)... Patented with the name "air".

Mostly serious thoughts . . . (1)

Badgerman (19207) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902519)

Beyond the jokes about his popup adds and such, this guy is also interested in technology used in non-annoying ways by the sounds of things. I'm sure there's things I've developed he probably claims he's patented or is trying to patented.

Do I think he'll get ahead on this? Probably not, but only probably - it takes a few people caving to enrich his coffers and get capital flowing in, so he could become a noteable pain in the rump if things go well.

I think the best bet is to keep outing this guy as a jerk, play up the sleazy questions about his past, and make sure people are aware. What company will want to settle with someone like this? It'd be publically humiliating.

It's truly a sad day when I strike a blow for pop-ups.

block all popups except the ones you want! (1)

xutopia (469129) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902527)

use Firebird (AKA Phoenix) and your popup troubles will disapear! :)

Sorry, I'm busy that day.... (1)

Dharma's Dad (668471) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902533)

Hey, finally, someone even bin Laden and Saddam would probably refuse to be seen with. Mozilla Rules! (Except that rev that would turn the entire ABCnews.com site into a endless repeating mega-pop-up)

Copyright != patent (1)

ip_vjl (410654) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902546)


From the article:

Schuster wouldn't comment on whether or not he has sent out any copyright infringement notices, and he said that some Internet patents have been frivolous -- but not his.


When the people responsible for reporting the news can't even bother to get their facts right, how can we expect that the average person on the street will get any understanding of these issues.

He wouldn't sent out copyright infringement notices, because it is a patent.

Gotta respect the guy (1)

PD (9577) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902548)

He filled in step 2.

1) invent pop-ups
2) sue everyone
3) profit!

That article STUNK! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902549)

I mean, it didn't even hint at where this guy's house is! How are we supposed to direct a deluge of junk mail at him, when the article doesn't give us any clues as to his address???

Nope. Sorry. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5902553)


"Shuster has a long list of pending patents, including one for pop-up audio ads that cannot be turned off."

OK, kids, all together now...

'If it can be turned on in software, in can be turned off in software'

I need to get new bifocals! (1)

djeaux (620938) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902556)

I kept reading the guys name as "Brian Shyster"...

Here, Brian. This is an axe. Here, Brian. This is the goose that popped up the golden eggs. The chopping block is over there. Get to work. PLEASE!

If I read the original article right, this Shyster guy claims to have built a "$100 million business" selling a "product" (porn) that is illegal for over-the-counter sales in many communities using questionable & possibly fraudulent methods. And he's going to be convincing mainstream businesses to license his "technology"? Gimme a break!

No, don't give me a break. American business is driven by marketing morons these daze -- anything's possible. As ol' Forrest said, "Stupid is as stupid does."

So, is Shyster filing a complaint with Sun for distributing JavaScript? I mean, they are aiding & abetting infringement on his pop-up "patent"...

Innovative pop up ads? (1, Funny)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902558)

"Flashpants (What a feeling)"
(To the tune of "Flashdance (What a Feeling)," Irene Cara)

Late, when there's nothing but a dim glowing screen
That displays what you hide deep inside your drive
All alone in the night, with your hand gripping tight
and your cock stiff as steel, hard as stone

Well I feel my pussy, close my eyes, pinch my nipples
Wrap around, take a hold, of your cock!

What a feeling! Penis greasing!
You can see it all and I'm younger than your wife!
Take your pants off! And get your nuts off!
Pictures come alive when you come into your eye!

Now my tits are perky, rub my clit, spread my pussy
In a flash, you take hold of your cock!

What a feeling! Fiendish beating!
Keep your Lubriderm and your tissues standing by!
Pull your pants down! And make the saints frown!
Pictures come alive then you come into your eye!

What a feeling!

What a feeling (You are horny now)
Penis greasing (Look at porno now)
Pictures come alive then you come into your eye!
What a feeling (You can really see it all)
What a feeling (etc.)

Makes me wonder. (1)

Raven42rac (448205) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902567)

How do people like this sleep at night, do they accept the fact that they are complete assholes, and wastes of space? Or are they blissfully unaware, just thinking they are making a quick buck using their "computer machine". I do not know which would comfort me more. Them being jerk-offs, or being complete dumbasses.

Well I don't like patents on obviouse technology (1)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902571)

This is not a good thing, its just another nail in the coffin for those of us who would like to see and end to pointless patents but, at least in the short term if he has any success this could destroy the economics of the pop-up and rid us all of it.

If I owned that patent... (1)

Anonymous Custard (587661) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902575)

If I owned that patent, I'd say only porn websites can use pop-ups, and I have to be getting laid in any picture used in the pop-up.

Error in article (1)

asobala (563713) | more than 11 years ago | (#5902576)

"Schuster wouldn't comment on whether or not he has sent out any copyright infringement notices, and he said that some Internet patents have been frivolous -- but not his" says the article.

A patent-violating site is violating the patent, not copyright.

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