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Build Your Own HERF Gun

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the friday-fun dept.

Toys 512

James writes "Rostislav Persion from Voltage Labs has successfully constructed a HERF gun (a device like EMP but directional) in his home that is capable of stalling cars at a distance and crashing computers as well. He has videos of the device in action as it lights up LED's at a distance and triggers motion detectors. Theres also a bunch of other security stuff and science stuff which is quite interesting and controversial, such as cell phone tracking, mood altering audio signals, gyro guns, and other things of this nature. The site owner was also featured in US News Magazine and MTV for some of his work."

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512 comments

Unfortunately (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924236)

After learning about his device, the US military used their larger HERF gun to deactivate his HERF gun.

Re:Unfortunately (1)

fishbert42 (588754) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924262)

the US military used their larger HERF gun to deactivate his HERF gun.

Also known as the HERF Buster.
Good thing he's got the HERF Buster Buster.
Yet, the military has the HERF Buster Buster Buster.

(The Big Hit reference, for those who are unfamiliar with this great movie.)

Re:Unfortunately (1)

Almost_anonymous_cow (671896) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924301)

No the lotion with aloe.

Re:Unfortunately (2, Insightful)

lewp (95638) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924325)

It was funny until you felt the need to explain it :(

Explains the Quake II "Big Gun" (1)

MarcQuadra (129430) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924332)

I was wondering why the aliens in Quake II needed 'the big gun.' It all makes so much sense now.

Not true... (5, Funny)

Eric_Cartman_South_P (594330) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924453)

...I live accross the street from this guy and nothing unusual is going on. That 1-800-Flowers van has been parked at the end of the block for a few days, come to thing of it, but other thaH$^FHGHATDT^ATDT^h6[NO CARRIER]

If only... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924242)

If only they had this for Thelma and Louise...

DCR SPAMCANNON! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924243)

FRIST PSOT!!11

Spam Cannon (-1, Offtopic)

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Re:Spam Cannon (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924280)

Just cut off his ....

Oh wait. never mind. You probably only have one of those too. :(

God slashdot is lame (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924245)

But this guy is actually cool.
Yay for him.

No More High Speed Pursuits (3, Insightful)

the-dude-man (629634) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924246)

You know...this would put an end to high speed pursuits

What will fox air....guess they will have to resort to hardcore porn

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (3, Interesting)

mrbrown1602 (536940) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924272)

Well actually if the car is older than 1980, it probably won't stall due to the lack of computerized components in the car. That's why I love driving a '56 Chevy. :-)

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (5, Funny)

marbike (35297) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924281)

No, There still is the as yet unaired "Who Wants to Marry a Middle Aged Producer?" or "When Shopping Carts Attack!: The Wallmart Files".

The hardcore porn will have a little time before it gets plastered over Fox.

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (5, Funny)

antiquark (87200) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924311)

I regret saying this already, it shows my age, and possibly my viewing habits.

In the brief remake series of Knight Rider, Knight Rider 2000 I think it was called, Kit could disable cars from a distance presumably with a similar device. I beleive the bad guys then did something to their Porsche Carerra 911's which made them impervious to this attack.

David Hasselhof's hair was similarly insulated from the radiation.

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924327)

Taser to the block work well for screwing up electronic ignition components, so my question is why hasn't someone come up with a 500K+ Volt taser harpoon for patrol cars? Seems like it would be easier to use than spike strips, less dangerous (blowouts happen even with the hollow spike type), and more effective (how many times have you seen crooks run on rims, or even runflat tires).

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (2, Informative)

macdaddy (38372) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924368)

They already have made one of these deals. It's like a spike strip but is really a mat that you position on the road. IIRC the officer that laid it out waits for the fleeing vehicle to drive over it and then activates the mat. He hits the button right as the car's engine is over the mat and it's jacks up the ignition system. The car dies instantly and rolls to a stop. The problem with any system like this is that 1) it's expensive and 2) it can only be used on vehicles moving slowly. You don't dare use this mat, spike strips, or the pitt maneuver on a vehicle going highway speeds. The car could easily lose control and cause a major accident. You have to do it when they are going slow like when they take a turn of some sorts. Yeah, they've built these gizmos already but they are expensive. Last I heard they were only being tested in the UK. Good idea though. I wonder how much damage (in $$$) this does to the car though. It's relatively easy to destory the computer system in a car. 9 times out of 10 you can do this by hooking jumper cables up backwards (yes, some people don't know how to use them properly. most people don't know which vehicle you should hook them up to first either). Frying the computer system in a car is essentially totaling the car. The replacement parts almost always cost more then the vehicle is worth. :-(

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924406)

You miss my point, I don't want a replacement for the spike strip, I want a mobile harpoon that can fry the car on the go. Other than the loss of power steering there is no danger to just stopping the engine in a high speed persuit, in fact its probably way less harmfull then just letting the idiot drive through traffic at high speeds. Of course my favorite self-Darwin is the bank robbers in southern Ohio that got flattened by a 18 wheeler after running a red light running from the cops, though I feel kind of bad for the semi driver(having to live with killing someone and all).

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924475)

Well, the loss of power steering and the loss of reasonably effective brakes. Best hope the driver doesn't have a pace maker either cause you just killed him. ;-) Actually, that makes me wonder. Given our rather sensitive internal electrical system, I wonder what a HERF gun fired at a human would do? Out autonomous system relies on electrical signals from the brain. That's why people with serious head trauma sometimes can't breathe on their own or their heart has to be forced to beat manually. The autonomous system shut itself down thanks to brain trauma. Hmm... that makes me wonder. Surely someone has answered that question though.

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (2, Interesting)

Cyclometh (629276) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924404)

Hmm, let's see- a 500V harpoon that, if it misses, impales some hapless bastard on the sidewalk, or takes out a bus or something. Can you imagine the fallout the first time they used something like that and missed? :-)

It's probably doable, but it would only be able to be used if there were no pedestrians/buildings/other cars about.

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924426)

what if the criminals copied and similarly carried such a harpoon taser to take out squad cars?

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924442)

so the fact that criminals might have guns is a reason to remove them from police officers???? The idea is already out there, an industrious criminal could make it today. The need is there for police officers to have a means of ending high speed persuits without further endangering the public, I haven't heard much better solutions proposed.

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (1)

domninus.DDR (582538) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924446)

They made a little RC car that can go like ~80 mph when launched from a cruiser that runs under the car with a trolley like thing sticking out of the top with plenty of voltage. IIRC this was on TLC a few days ago

Exactly! (4, Interesting)

tomzyk (158497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924344)

I'll install one in the rear window of my vehicle and when the pigs start chasing me down, I'll zap 'em before they get close enough to read my license plate. :-)

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (2, Insightful)

PissedOffGuy (612092) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924386)

You know...this would put an end to high speed pursuits

i wonder if they consider it riskier than the strips of little hollow tubes that puncture and slowly deflate your tires.

without your electrical system and your engine spinning down you could lose power steering, power brakes, your lights would go out (at night at high speed most probably), various automatic transmission problems, etc.

i guess its still safer than the PIT maneuver.

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (1)

dracocat (554744) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924397)

True. It won't be much of a pursuit if the car they are chasing has one of these.

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924419)

what would be kind of cool is to track down the cops using directional methods. every single one of them has a computer in their squad car, right? maybe there's some sort of "ping" equivalent. if so, you could find what compass heading the police are in. use simple trigonometry, and a moving vehicle can then pinpoint their position. no officer, i was not speeding!

Re:No More High Speed Pursuits (5, Funny)

Rolo Tomasi (538414) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924438)

You know...this would put an end to high speed pursuits

So would this [www.saab.se] (scroll down to Carl Gustaf). Probably much more fun to watch, too.

Lovely... (0)

bluesoul88 (609555) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924247)

Just what we need, one more way to fuck up our computers!

Re:Lovely... (-1, Offtopic)

bumby (589283) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924289)

Computer are like erected penises, they stay up as long as you don't fuck with them.

I doubt this HERF gun would take down a penis. But you never know, enough power and it might burn up or something :P

Re:Lovely... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924382)

+1, childishly incomprehensible!

Re:Lovely... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924470)

a penis is not a toy. oh wait, yes it is, nevermind. i'll be right back in.... a while.

This Could Improve My Driving Record... (3, Funny)

GroundBounce (20126) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924250)


Couple this with my radar detector and have it stall the police car as he pulls out to nab me. Hmmm, time to dust off the old lab bench.

Re:This Could Improve My Driving Record... (1)

FeloniousPunk (591389) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924408)

Too bad for you it doesn't stall firearms...

Re:This Could Improve My Driving Record... (1)

Galvatron (115029) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924422)

Um, if a cop car stalled unexpectedly when pulling out to chase a speeder, I highly doubt the police reaction would be to open fire on said speeder.

Re:This Could Improve My Driving Record... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924432)

but wait! police can aim at your car with perfect accuracy and blow out your tires using a computer guided gun. oh wait, no, i forgot, your tires have jamming software built into them. it's the start of technological wars.

This has been done before (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924251)

An interesting MIT Media Labs project, Microsoft Word description is here [computerpod.com] , has explored the possibility of installing Linux on such devices.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT IN ALL CAPS THAT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924255)

there are old boners and there are bold boners but there are no cold gold boners.

Thanks.

Can someone check the server.... (4, Funny)

johny_qst (623876) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924260)

I think the HERF device may have gone off next to it again! :) Gotta be careful with those experimental weapons.

Re:Can someone check the server.... (1)

MattCohn.com (555899) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924270)

The fun thing was he had a live chat on the page, so I got to talk to him as he was slashdotted to the great beond.

Re:Can someone check the server.... (5, Funny)

Wingnut64 (446382) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924418)

This isn't good...
We've just slashdoted some guy with an EMP weapon...

Similar sweet page (5, Informative)

Op911 (593600) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924261)

Don't forget to check out a similar page, Sam Barros' Powerlabs [powerlabs.org] which I find similarly tremendously entertaining. Guy's got railguns, homemade explosives, golfball cannons... it's sweet.

magnetron? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924263)

So what exactly is a magnetron and where would one find one? (Not that I have any intention of using these in high speed car chases...)

Re:magnetron? (2, Informative)

chill (34294) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924335)

Magnetrons are the main component of microwave ovens. Beware -- unshielded units are dangerous. You can end up sterile, or dead... or both.

-Chas

Re:magnetron? (1)

BobTheJanitor (114890) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924435)

Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.

The answer to my prayers! (4, Funny)

Robber Baron (112304) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924264)

Now will it fit behind the front grille of my Crown Vic?

Cut me off will you you asshole!!!

Re:The answer to my prayers! (1)

realdpk (116490) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924318)

Judging by the posts I've seen so far, it sounds like people are more interested if the HERF will fire /through/ the front grille of crown vic's.

Re:The answer to my prayers! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924388)

So your plan is to stall his car while it's going down the highway RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU? I hope you have good brakes. :)

Re:The answer to my prayers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924390)

Crown Vic's 0WN J00!
(within warrantee).

Logging. (4, Funny)

Daleks (226923) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924266)

It's nice that this webpage says in caps "IP LOGGED" followed by your IP. I guess this way he can tell who's HTTP GET broke the webserver's back.

Re:Logging. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924346)

I thought that was the best part. They might as well have put up a banner that said "THIS IS AN FCC STING OPERATION" on the top.

Re:Logging. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924471)

probably not

Warning: Address is not a valid IPv4 or IPv6 address in http://www.voltsamps.com/svbx-head.inc on line 55

/.'ed (0, Offtopic)

LoRdTAW (99712) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924267)

Well I was enjoying the site.............

Erm... (1)

retro128 (318602) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924268)

Is it just me or did all this guy do is take the components out of a microwave and put a big cone around them?

Re:Erm... (1)

phuturephunk (617641) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924294)

...It may look like 'just a big cone' to you...The real question is What is that cone made of?...

Re:Erm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924400)

You're right, that's all it is. A true EMP type weapon would use a pulse magnetron (radar) for a higher peak pulse power, a microwave oven magnetron *can not* be microsecond-pulsed and therefore has a lower peak pulse power, but a high RMS power (good for cooking).

some Oops is in order, I think... (0, Offtopic)

tandr (108948) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924269)

Looks like this guy misfired the gun in his own server...

Best contraceptive (5, Funny)

aerogeek (669982) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924275)

I was just worrying about not meeting my recommended daily allowance of EF radiation with this cellphone in my pocket and 10 PCs near my desk. Now I can build a HERF gun -- problem solved!

Re:Best contraceptive (1)

jspoon (585173) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924380)

They laughed at me when I started wearing this tin-foil helmet. The cast iron jock strap got even more giggles. Who is laughing now, huh? Who is laughing now?

Toy gun. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924276)

Damn! I got to stop reading fast.

I thought it said "Build your own NERF gun".

Cataracts (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924279)

And radiation burns await those who wish to play with the innards of a microwave.

Re:Cataracts (1)

Malc (1751) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924458)

I suspect your more at risk of electrocuting yourself. There's some serious power in that circuit.

gyro guns? (1)

fishbert42 (588754) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924284)

Who wants a gyro gun?
I'm holding out for a gyno gun!

Combine that with mood altering audio signals, and then you've got something *truly* interesting and controversial. =)

Re:gyro guns? (2, Funny)

Un1v4c (226792) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924441)


I'd love to shoot people with Greek food.

-1 Overrated?! (0, Offtopic)

fishbert42 (588754) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924473)

You have to be kidding me...
I admit I'm not the best comedian around, but I see much worse stuff get modded up on a daily basis around here.

At the very least, I beg to differ that (Score: 1) was overrated.

MTV?? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924287)

Since when did MTV become the authoritarian reference on Slashdot? Are we supposed to be in awe? What's next - a story submitted by a guy who once in high school dated Britney Spears?

Re:MTV?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924379)

Very Funny.

Re:MTV??-Haunted past. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924413)

"What's next - a story submitted by a guy who once in high school dated Britney Spears?"

Well we could always send him a sympathy card.

No, that's not MTV (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924449)

Umm, I think you meant authoritative. The authoritarian reference on slashdot is, was, and always will be Microsoft.

Except when it's Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Lucent, or Intel, sex.com, the European Parliament, or George Bush. But those are just on Saturdays.

Monday through Friday, it's Microsoft.

And never MTV.

[BTW... MTV will never carry a show about a guy who once dated Britney Spears in high school, because the MTV viewers are typically not interested in fifty-somethings.]

Slashdotted already? (0, Troll)

Trusted Content (639714) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924290)

Can't find server. Damn!

It's toast... (0, Troll)

Svartalf (2997) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924454)

I got the main page just a moment ago and couldn't get anything past it. Now, I can't even pull up the main page.

Stick a fork in it folks- it's done.

Self-Slashdotted...? (0)

simon13 (121780) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924297)

Maybe he was testing it too close to his server, because I ain't getting any response from it!

I bet it's not match for my... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924299)

NERF gun.

NERF vs HERF. Hmmm...

One shoots harmless soft plastic objects. The other shoots EMPs. Hmmm...

I better make sure I don't accidentally give my 4 year old the HERF gun. It would suck for me to be in traffic, trying to threaten people with a lousy NERF gun.

Then, after coming home from a bad day, I'll find that my kid's new toy destroyed a cul-de-sac block.

mirror (google cache) (4, Informative)

bumby (589283) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924300)

Here it is: mirror [216.239.57.104]

weapons (3, Insightful)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924302)

So, what would this do to an airplane? One that's, say, in the takeoff phase, heavily loaded with fuel and hundreds of passengers on board?

Re:weapons (4, Funny)

John Whorfin (19968) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924399)

Probably the same thing as one of those old-fashioned gas-expansion lead accelerators would do.

Re:weapons (1, Interesting)

mnemonic_ (164550) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924407)

Hard to say exactly, but here are my guesses...

Comms and avionics would be damaged.

Flight control wouldn't be too affected, even if it's an aircraft using a fly-by-wire control system as they're equipped with hydraulic backups (non-military).

Engine control might be lost. Not something like an engine failure of any type, just loss of control.

Landing gear control might be lost, though gear could be brought down manually by a member of the flight crew going below deck.

Re:weapons (2, Funny)

aerogeek (669982) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924465)

Even hydraulic actuators have electromechanical servo valves, which I assume could be affected. For a large plane without pulley-and-cable backups, this could be catastrophic. The only kind of plane that would potentially be immune would be a small piston-engine, which does not require electricity of any sort -- not even in the ignition system (magnetos).

This is already used by Police in Europe. (5, Interesting)

rxed (634882) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924304)

Similar, more powerful, device has been used by German police during hot pursuits. I'm not sure if its still used (because of the EU rules etc). Stop sticks are cheaper, although not as safe, and also don't kill the car as the EMG gun does. Oh yea, besides your dead engine/car you can say bye bye to all electronic equipment in the car; even your watch!

Mood altering audio (-1, Offtopic)

quintessent (197518) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924308)

That invention predates him by thousands of years.

Re:Mood altering audio (1, Offtopic)

thynk (653762) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924355)

That invention predates him by thousands of years.

And was invented by a woman no doubt....

But seriously, I dunno what the big deal about mood altering audio is. I listened to several of the files in a random order, and I feel no different.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to finish gnawing off my left foot then I'm going to go sing love songs to my car.

Re:Mood altering audio (1)

martyn s (444964) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924439)

Is it possible your soundsystem isn't capable of the frequencies required to alter your mood?

I don't know how this particular system works, but I was reading about "infra sound" which supposedly affects your mood, and from what I gather, most sound systems can't play infra sound.

Re:Mood altering audio (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924476)

Actually, the problem lies in the fact that it is bullshit. Sorry, Psychology hasn't reached this far yet.

The HERF004.. (4, Interesting)

EinarH (583836) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924314)

..looks like a great way to fry those RFID-tags for the paranoid of us. 1kW with high directinality should do the job.
Yeah, you can use a microwave oven but putting tires inside the oven is kind of hard.

This would probably work on those automatic traffic controller systems with digital cameras that take pictures of speeding to...

FCC Notice (5, Funny)

dracocat (554744) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924319)

FCC Notice
This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions:

1. This device may not cause harmful interference.

2. This device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.

From the site, moments before the Slashdot effect (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924322)

64.105.67.47> u guys are gonna get slashdotted any minute now
67.118.175.173> bah
64.216.0.81> surviving slashdot very well

Good to see progress (5, Funny)

certron (57841) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924323)

I'm glad to see someone is working on perfecting the HERF gun. After all, they have to keep up with the progress made since Slashdot perfected the website-killing HREF gun a few years ago. Just point and click, webserver goes down. :-)

Re:Good to see progress (1)

tomzyk (158497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924366)

oh man. i wish i had some mod points for ya.
funny funny funny. :)

(ok. so i should have finished that entire bottle of wine for dinner... i'm sure i'll still find that funny in the morning tho.)

rf can do strange things to cars (5, Interesting)

ratfynk (456467) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924330)

Reminds me of the Volks Rabbit, when it first came out with electronic ignition. Some cops I knew back then told me that the earliest ones off the assembly line didn't have much shielding on the electronic unit. If a cop pulled up behind one and keyed his mic the Rabbit would crap out.


Just a little history repeating itself.
Another tool, that when in the hands of the wrong people could be very dangerous! However to end a high speed chase, before someone gets killed?

Re:rf can do strange things to cars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924479)

Sounds like bullshit, no offense to your friend or to you.

Do we need more weapon ? (2, Insightful)

aepervius (535155) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924369)

What happen if you use it on an auto at 100mph on the quick road ? (yeah autoroute but I dunno how they call it). What happen if you use it on somebody with a peacemaker ? Did even the guy putting the to-do kit up think of that ?

Re:Do we need more weapon ? (4, Funny)

Snover (469130) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924410)

We don't need peacemakers in this day and age, we need warmongers, to drive out the filth of the arab nations. Silly person. ;-)

I meant a PACEmaker :P silly me. (1)

aepervius (535155) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924480)

You know this things which make heart beat in some cases.

Re:Do we need more weapon ? (3, Funny)

Cyclometh (629276) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924423)

I suppose if you use it on someone with a Peacemaker, you'd get shot. :-) Not much electronics in those.

Re:Do we need more weapon ? (1)

Wingnut64 (446382) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924443)

What happen if you use it on an auto at 100mph on the quick road ?
You could get the same effect as if you dropped a box of nails out your window (and without the risk of sterilization). I personally would worry more about downing the police helicopter following you.

Re:Is this really news? (1)

gantrep (627089) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924450)

I imagine in the car that the worst that would happen is that all electronics die and then you steer, brake and coast to a stop. No abs or power steering maybe, but I think besides that it would be fine. I would think car companies don't make these systems dependent on delicate electronics, that can be plagued by many other non-HERF problems, like a blown fuse or short. My truck is from '91 and these critical systems work fine without power, but I haven't worked on anything newer. If these things can't function without electronics, then that is very very wrong and dangerous.

The guy with the pacemaker dies maybe. Who knows.

Road rage. (2, Interesting)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924403)

The subject of mood altering audio signals is interesting to bring up. I have some interesting ideas about this.

I am certain that a lot of things affect moods. Audio is one of them. But I also believe that visual characteristics have a lot to do with mood. What's that Chinese art of interior decorating that is supposed to bring harmony? I forgot the name.

Mexico City (for those of you who don't know what D.F. stands for) is a heavily populated place. I've heard different accounts that it is the biggest city (or the third biggest) in the world, and I don't know if this means by population or by physical size. In any case, there is a LOT of traffic here. I have found that I am quite affected by "road rage," or let's just call it frustration behind the wheel, when I'm driving around town: Traffic moves along slowly. Going ten miles can take between 30 minutes and an hour, depending on the circumstances. It's just such a pain, and it is frustrating. Now, in my case, my frustration behind the wheel is caused by a number of factors:

  • The brain assigns attentional resources to things. For example, your eye can see pretty well all around but your brain assigns more attentional resources to the thing your eyes are pointing at. With so much to look at and notice in a big city, the brain works overtime. This causes stress, fatigue and frustration.
  • While driving around town, there are a lot of noises going on, like the sounds of other cars or your own. My car shakes when it idles and barely runs when it does. In addition, things rattle and squeak, and my keychain, of all things, swings back and forth and makes little (barely audible but certainly there) metallic ringing sounds. These are all sounds that my brain processes and tries to put in the background.
  • I have to accomplish a lot of things during the day, but traffic wastes a lot of time.
  • But here is my favorite part: The *shapes* of cars, of all things, pisses me off the most. Seriously... it's as if all I look at the whole time is the ass end of ugly cars. When the driver in front of me pushes on the gas after being stopped, the back end of his car moves down a couple of inches from the "recoil" of his car suddenly moving forward. When he stops, the back end of his car seems to rise up a few inches. Pay attention to this as you're driving around and you'll see it too. Now the part that pisses me off is this: That rising of the back end that I just mentioned? It looks like a dog raising its ass at you as an insult. For some reason, my brain associates the shape and motion of the decelerating car in front of me with dogs that insult you by sticking their ass in the air, as dogs do when you want to put a leash on them, give them a bath, or anything else that the dog doesn't want. And it's almost true: It's as if the driver in front of you is insulting you by stopping instead of getting the fuck out of your way. I can't explain how much this pisses me off.

Now all of this might sound totally psycho to you but I'm serious... people can't explain why they are the nicest people but turn into total bastards when they get in a car. It's not just sound waves that can piss you off... it's everything that your brain has to assign resources to, like motion and shape. I think this is why we associate certain feelings with certain faces, colors, shapes, body language, etc.

P.d., the worst road rage I've ever had was yelling profanities at the top of my lungs, and that only happened once when I was three hours late to work because I slept too long at my girlfriend's house and couldn't get to work fast enough. But that's how life is in the big city... I just go home in the evening and have some tequila. Because Denial is a river in Egypt.

Pacemakers ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5924461)

Would a HERF gun damage/stop someone`s pacemaker ?

mood altering audio signals (1, Funny)

Sandman1971 (516283) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924467)

mood altering audio signals

I want an instrument that plays the brown noise, damnit!

We're trying to find the Brown Noise! It's this one pitch, this certain frequency, that makes people lose bowel control!

Brown noise is an ausilation of sound that causes the bowels to losen! The Brown Noise is believed to be ninety-two cents below the lowest octave of E flat. The French experimented with it in World War II.

something like this: (1, Informative)

WhiteDragon (4556) | more than 11 years ago | (#5924481)

He looks over to see that the van he's blocked in wasn't abandoned after all; it was full of Dwarves, who have now thrown the back door open to reveal a nest of cables and wires. A couple of the Dwarves are heaving a boxy apparatus up onto the roof of the van. Cables run out of it to another boxy apparatus down below. The apparatus is electrical in nature - and doesn't appear capable of firing projectiles - so Randy decides not to pay it much attention for the moment. ... he hears an electrical buzzing noise from the van that makes his hair stand on end for a moment. ...Then the screen of his computer goes blank.... There is a screeching of tires, and the sound of a low-speed colliion, out on the street. About a dozen cars have rolled quietly to a stop, and some have been rear-ended by others that are still functioning. The McDonald's has gone dark. Television technicians are cursing inside their mobile units. Police officers and lawyers are pounding their walkie-talkies and cellphones against their hands.

"Pardon me," Randy says to the Dwarves, "but would you gentlemen like to share anything with me?"

"We just took out the whole building," says one of the Dwarves.

"Took it out, in what sense?"

"Nailed it with a big electromagnetic pulse. Fried every chip within range." ...

"Well, it certainly worked on those cars," Randy says, "and it definitely worked on this piece of junk that used to be my computer."

"Don't worry - it has no effect on hard drives," the Dwarf says, "so all of your files are intact."

"I know you are expecting me to take that as good news," Randy says.

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