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Pictures of Earth From Mars

CmdrTaco posted more than 11 years ago | from the i-can-see-my-house-from-here dept.

Space 290

11223 writes "Mars Global Surveyor has snapped a picture of Earth from its Mars orbit. This picture, the first of its kind, shows Earth, the Moon, and Jupiter. Earth is visible as a half disc exposing North and South America; apparently the Moon had to be "processed" into the picture."

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fp from Mars (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018417)

fp

Obligatory "An FP is not redundant" post. (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018520)

MODSONCRACK!

Hey! (5, Funny)

kidlinux (2550) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018418)

I can see my house from here!

Really cool high-altitude pix (-1, Troll)

Freston Youseff (628628) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018495)

Here's a really cool link [mailto] to the webcam atop the famous Kuala Lumpur Petronas towers. If you e-mail me [mailto] at my e-mail address kidlinux@spacebox.net, I can send you some neat high res pix.

Re:Hey! (0, Troll)

SeederGOD (665109) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018528)

so if you want to see it, try to go outside and look on it from sidewalk :) you don't need MGS to look on your house

Re:Hey! (5, Funny)

billimad (629204) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018639)

if you look real close you can see a tiny flash of light as a web server goes up in flames.

Re:Hey! (3, Funny)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018704)

It is, after all, from the I-can-see-my-house-from-here dept.

Very nice. (1, Flamebait)

Randolpho (628485) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018424)

Or rather, it would be, if it weren't already slashdotted. :(

I hope one day to see that picture "in the flesh".

Re:Very nice. (1)

`Sean (15328) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018439)

Yeah...Slashdotted before the first post is pretty bad. Mirrors? ;)

Re:Very nice. (5, Informative)

polymath69 (94161) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018499)

Space.com [space.com] has the pictures, and is not (yet) slashdotted.

Re:Very nice. (1)

Farscry (674981) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018440)

Yeah; only 3 comments and the server's already choking. Then again, most of the space agency servers are ALWAYS very slow.

Re:Very nice. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018633)

"in the flesh"

Typical Slashdot. We get an amazing photo and already we are looking for the pr0n angle

Re:Very nice. (5, Informative)

terkozer (521819) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018635)

National Geographic has picked up the article as well...

It can be found here [nationalgeographic.com]

1st? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018430)

Post and pic!

doh! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018434)

slashdotted

Fake fake fake (2, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018438)


That picture has been Photoshop'd. We never landed on the moon. Consume. Marry and reproduce.

Re:Fake fake fake (2, Funny)

Drathus (152223) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018503)

Well, it's a good thing then this pic was taken from Mars' orbit then, isn't it? =)

(Yes, I know you post was humor. =P)

Re:Fake fake fake (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018632)

I know silly, I meant that other "classic" space thing was faked. Which it was. Elvis did it after he and JFK faked the assassination. Where's my tinfoil hat?

Re:Fake fake fake (1)

Drathus (152223) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018536)

(Though I guess the Moderators need an injection of a sense of humor.)

Re:Fake fake fake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018607)

(And you need an injection of beef, by the sound of it).

I love astronomy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018442)

That's me mooning Mars, and a couple of neighbors, there on the west coast of Florida. Smile!

Martian and Bugs Bunny (1, Funny)

DJ Rubbie (621940) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018447)

This reminds me of that Martian dude from Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show...

Re:Martian and Bugs Bunny (1)

bludstone (103539) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018482)

Marvin the martian

"The eliudium pew 36 explosive space modulator! that creature has stolen the SPACE MODULATOR."

Re:Martian and Bugs Bunny (4, Funny)

cmburns69 (169686) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018538)

oooh this makes me very angry!

An online Starcraft RPG? Free, only at [netnexus.com]
In soviet russia, all your us are belong to base!
Karma: redundant

Re:Martian and Bugs Bunny (1)

Gibble (514795) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018574)

Where's the KABOOM? There was supposed to be an earth shattering KABOOM!!

Where's The Earth-Shattering Kaboom? (1)

Fishstick (150821) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018678)

The earth will be gone in just a few minutes. It obstructs my view of venus.

Now, where the $@#& is the Illudium Q-38 Explosive Space Modulator [starcitygames.com] ?

"Processed" into the picture? (1)

dobedobedew (663137) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018448)

As if the people who claim the NASA missions to the moon are hoaxes didn't have enough ammuntion already...

Re:"Processed" into the picture? (1, Troll)

GammaTau (636807) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018527)

As if the people who claim the NASA missions to the moon are hoaxes didn't have enough ammuntion already...

Oh, come on. The Moon is a Propaganda Hoax [revisionism.nl] . The Mad Revisionist is even offering $100,000 for anyone who provides them, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon.

Re:"Processed" into the picture? (2, Funny)

Grandmasta (612724) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018594)

It was processed into the picture BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST! We never landed on the moon -- THE MOON IS A HOAX!

okay, I'm done. ^_^

Re:"Processed" into the picture? (2, Informative)

Clomer (644284) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018641)

Sadly, you're probably right. Fortunately, they explained exactly how it was "processed" and why, as well as provided links to the original, unprocessed images.

The simple fact is that it is virtually impossible to get a good, unprocessed image of this type because of how much of a difference in brightness there is between the Earth and the Moon. I once read somewhere that the moon only reflects about 10% of the light that hits it. It's dark grey, essentially the color of asphalt, but it looks white in the sky because you see it against the pitch black background. The Earth, OTOH, reflects about 45% of the light that strikes it, which makes it's apparent magnitude (brightness) much higher when seen from afar. This is why they had to process it the image.

Already /.ed (1)

BWJones (18351) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018450)

Done, fin, kaput. Man, there has got to be some system in place to temporarily mirror sites before posting on Slashdot, yes?

Re:Already /.ed (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018479)

Done, fin, kaput. Man, there has got to be some system in place to temporarily mirror sites before posting on Slashdot, yes?

Yes, but then Slashdot wouldn't have a reason to sell subscriptions? It occurs to one that Slashdot now PROFITS from Slashdotting.

Ethics aside, I doubt they will fix it anytime soon.

Re:Already /.ed (0, Offtopic)

BWJones (18351) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018511)

As a followup, I would be interested in discovering what the statistics are for a Slashdotting? How many hits are typically recieved after a post on slashdot? What are the most Slashdot resistant configurations? Where are the limitations usually found in a Slashdotting? Is it the router, the OS, the ethernet bandwidth? Hard drive speed? For instance, with a really fat internet connection will a site like this one [utah.edu] running on a lowly iMac withstand a Slashdotting?

Re:Already /.ed (1)

BWJones (18351) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018642)

Off topic? What did this get modded as off topic for? The site was slashdotted, so what else is there to talk about except the effects of slashdotting?

fr0thy (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018451)

peanus buttr and jelly samiches

Mission Accomplished (4, Funny)

Renegade Lisp (315687) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018452)

Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. But surely, they did wait until North America was in full view for the image? If not, who would recognize the Earth, after all?

But humor & politics aside, this is a great picture. You would think that just for this picture a considerable fraction of the mission's budget would have been justified.

Re:Mission Accomplished (1)

Sinus0idal (546109) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018517)

Heh, when compared with the second globe, it doesn't appear to match at all - looks more like Africa and Europe from where I'm sitting... :-)

Re:Mission Accomplished (0, Troll)

eurostar (608330) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018521)

North American side ?
you mean the dark side of the earth ?

with excuses to Pink Floyd...

Re:Mission Accomplished (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018686)

Europeans would.

Uhh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018456)

Not a single comment and slashdotted....

Nice pics of home (4, Insightful)

fudgefactor7 (581449) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018460)

Kinda fuzzy, but that's ok. Makes us almost look lost in the nothingness. Staggering that they could even get that pic.

Is this first post? (1)

mshiltonj (220311) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018466)

The damn site is already slashdotted.

Slashdotted before out of "The Mysterious future" (1, Informative)

Binestar (28861) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018467)

Mirror available here [atecgroup.com] . Please do not mod this up, and go gently, also once you've seen it please mirror somewhere else, this is only a T1 for gods sake! =)

Re:Slashdotted before out of "The Mysterious futur (5, Informative)

KrispyKringle (672903) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018529)

Seems like a good way to test my pII 400:

mirror here [dnsalias.net] .

If you can, mirror it somewhere else, too.

Re:Slashdotted before out of "The Mysterious futur (1)

Binestar (28861) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018584)

Well, the server is handling it, but the T1 is showing signs of strain.

My log file is moving so fast it's just a blur on a tail -f =)

Re:Slashdotted before out of "The Mysterious futur (1)

KrispyKringle (672903) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018649)

Yeah, I'm mirroring from you as fast as I can (2.5K or so). I think that's you, not me, as my downstream is a lot faster than my up. Fun fun fun, though; I never get this many hits on this box.

Re:Slashdotted before out of "The Mysterious futur (1)

Binestar (28861) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018693)

Try again... just restarted apache, and the load seems to be letting down a bit.

Re:Slashdotted before out of "The Mysterious futur (2, Funny)

Overly Critical Guy (663429) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018600)

Please do not mod this up

Did people just outright ignore this request, or what?

Images look funny (1, Troll)

dtolton (162216) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018469)

I was looking at those images and for some reason they just didn't look right to me. If you browse down the page a bit, you'll see that not only was the moon "processed" into the image. Essentially the entire "earth" and Jupiter images were "processed" as well.

Why does Jupiter look so big in that picture? Did anyone catch what magnification that picture was taken at? Jupiter was behind the earth, and a long ways away, why does it still look so big?

Looks like the server puked under the load, hopefully they'll come back up soon.

Re:Images look funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018491)

Because jupiter is big you hymie troll.

As big as yo momma

Re:Images look funny (2, Funny)

JudgeFurious (455868) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018519)

Not quite. His mamma's shadow is the black thing behind the earth and Jupiter.

Re:Images look funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018560)

Your mamma's so fat she jumped up in the air and got stuck.

Re:Images look funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018609)

Your mom's got more chins than a Chinese phone book.

Re:Images look funny (1)

goober (120298) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018516)

Why does Jupiter look so big in that picture? Did anyone catch what magnification that picture was taken at? Jupiter was behind the earth, and a long ways away, why does it still look so big?

Is this a joke or a troll? Or both?

It looks big because it is big.

Re:Images look funny (3, Funny)

Sinus0idal (546109) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018549)

Why does it look so big!? You kidding? Uh, probably because Jupiter is 11.2 times larger than Earth, and has a mass 318 times that of Earth... Any maybe due to the fact that Jupiter is more massive than all the other known planets in our solar system combined?

Re:Images look funny (1)

DJ Rubbie (621940) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018544)

Jupiter is still more than 10 times larger than the Earth, and since it is more than 5 times away, it makes sense the Earth is about half as large as Jupiter in the picture. It may not look that way because the Earth is a crecent in that picture.

Re:Images look funny (1)

Cranx (456394) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018604)

Well, if Jupiter looks that large in the skies of Mars, and we're closer to Jupiter than Mars is, why doesn't Jupiter appear even LARGER in our sky?

Or am I missing something?

Re:Images look funny (5, Informative)

antis0c (133550) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018575)

I downloaded the unprocessed images of Earth. The only difference is Earth is colorized, and the moon brightness is enhanced.

Re:Images look funny (-1, Redundant)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018576)

ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE.

This sentence here to avoid the stupid filters. I was looking at those images and for some reason they just didn't look right to me. If you browse down the page a bit, you'll see that not only was the moon "processed" into the image. Essentially the entire "earth" and Jupiter images were "processed" as well. Why does Jupiter look so big in that picture? Did anyone catch what magnification that picture was taken at? Jupiter was behind the earth, and a long ways away, why does it still look so big? Looks like the server puked under the load, hopefully they'll come back up soon.

Re:Images look funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018612)

The red spot on Jupiter alone could hold two Earths. Was this a joke?

Re:Images look funny (5, Informative)

travisbecker (104621) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018696)

Why does Jupiter look so big in that picture?

From one of the astronomy programs I have, I was able to get this data for 08-May-2003:

Earth-Mars range: 1.398e8 km
Jupiter-Mars range: 9.438e8 km

Earth radius: 6378.12 km
Jupiter radius: 71492.35 km

So using

size = atan( radius / range )

we obtain apparent sizes from Mars:

Jupiter: 0.0043 deg
Earth: 0.0026 deg

So Jupiter should be almost twice as big, even though it's almost 7 times farther away. One can probably also figure out the magnification based on the image.

Travis

my description of dead link (5, Funny)

Brigadier (12956) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018471)



Well since it's slashdotted let me describe it for everyone. it looks like the picture they took from the moon only .... muuuch much much smaller

Hey! (1)

TWX (665546) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018472)

"Hey. Check out that funky moon!"

With apologies to "Amazon Women on the Moon"

More pictures available (-1, Troll)

I Am The Owl (531076) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018483)

I've found that there are several low-res pictures of this and more available on some random website [goatse.cx] for some reason. Apparently these have leaked out onto the internet from NASA. Do we have an aspiring warezer working there or something?

Re:More pictures available (-1)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018656)

My god. It's full of ass.

Only US residents should be allowed to view images (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018485)

Europeons can launch their own damn surveyor!

Re:Only US residents should be allowed to view ima (1)

johannesg (664142) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018648)

Like this [esa.int] one? Give it a break already, it launches in just ten days...

"Improving" the photos (4, Funny)

Soulfader (527299) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018486)

I like how they explained how they combined and colorized the pictures. I can't help but think, however, that the temptation to "improve" it a bit more with giant Earthbound meteors would be nigh overwhelming... =)

How convinient ;) (0)

Soulfarmer (607565) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018488)

that it shows South and North America. Could it be accident? What would it have taken to get Europe or Asia in the picture? NASA headquartes in the Eastern block? :D

Nice one in any case. And I do not have a hobby flamebaiting or snitching trolls. Trolls are in my mind at least, a thing for tabletop games ;)

Mirror? (5, Informative)

Ignorant Aardvark (632408) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018494)

Whoa, I was gonna try and mirror these images ... but to no avail! The webserver stopped dead during the subscriber preview time. Oh well, here's a BitTorrent link for everything I was able to get before the site went down:

BitTorrent images mirror link [bounceme.net]

Mirror (5, Informative)

realdpk (116490) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018508)

Or maybe this is "another mirror" by the time I finish posting this. The site is getting pounded hard. This is just the JPEG that was linked to, not the entire site.

429319 byte JPEG [dpk.net] . It's on a beefy connection, have a blast.

It's really too bad /. doesn't have any consideration for other sites when they post links.

Re:Mirror (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018577)

Here's another mirror [surveycomplete.com] .

Obligatory plug: Join the SurveyComplete panel. [surveycomplete.com]

Re:Mirror (-1, Troll)

MisterFancypants (615129) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018617)

That is one boring fucking picture.

Fuck that.

Fuckers.

Re:Mirror (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018709)

You just don't understand art, do you?

Believe me, this is a beautiful site to be seen! You just have to focus really hard before you can "see" it. Okay, this requires a little imagination; let your creative mind be your vehicle. Let it _move_ you to another place.

First, you find yourself in complete darkness. Or is this your conscience? You decide; it's art goddammit. Then it hits you. You are not in complete darkness, there is a dot. No, wait a minute... there is not one dot, but two! Two dots. But are they really dots? ...yadda..yadda...

I can't believe this was actually posted. Both the stupid image and this stupid reply. :-) Have a nice day.

Damn it the earth seems round...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018515)

I mean there was no need to manipulate the image to that sort of extreme.

"Proccessed" the moon in? (2, Funny)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018525)

So the moon is indeed a projection from the ground, and we blew it up during a botched nuke test?
HA! I thought so!

What happened (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018554)

to all they stars. were they removed from the photo ?

Re:What happened (4, Informative)

AlabamaMike (657318) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018681)

Ahh ... one who hasn't heard of the moon shot conspiracy. Basically, the stars are of much lower magnitude than the celestial bodies being imaged, and therefore they don't show up in this picture. Many have tried to claim that evidence of the vast NASA conspiracy lies in the fact that no stars are to be seen on any of the photos taken by Apollo astronauts. If you've had any exposure to physics (or if you can perform logical deduction on your own) you'd be keen to why this happens the way it does.
-A.M.

Re:What happened (1)

sethaw (598206) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018685)

to all they stars. were they removed from the photo ?

Well obviously nasa must of used the same techniques as they did when the created that moon landed hoax a few years back. hehe :)

Re:What happened to stars (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018718)

Even in space, starlight is very faint - when you expose for planets (which are just reflecting the sun's light) the star's light is just way to faint to register. If they had exposed to show the stars, both planets would just be super big blobs many many many times overexposed.

Another Pic (4, Interesting)

BurritoWarrior (90481) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018561)

From National Geographic:

Pics [nationalgeographic.com] .

Another mirror (2)

Renegade Lisp (315687) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018565)

here. [fu-berlin.de]

This is only the main page, all links point to NASA.

Better format? (4, Insightful)

zapp (201236) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018603)

The JPEG image is ~415kb, and the site (and mirrors) are getting hit pretty hard already.

Since the image is like 99.99999% pure black, wouldn't it have made more sense to use GIF or something? When i saved the image as a GIF it took up 8kb.

Yeah yeah, I know... gif is copyrighted, but you get my point.

Re:Better format? (4, Informative)

Lxy (80823) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018644)

what about PNG? it should give you an image of comperable size without people lashing about how evil Unisys is.

Re:Better format? (3, Informative)

CWCarlson (2884) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018713)

Indeed. Converted with the Gimp at compression level 6, this 429,319 byte image shrinks to a mere 40,714.

Not bad, for a 24-bit non-lossy image format.

--- Chris

Re:Better format? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018676)

How 'bout .png format images? They have even smaller filesizes and no nasty legal issues.

Re:Better format? (3, Interesting)

robsimmon (462689) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018724)

Actually, the raw (black and white, not contrast adjusted) image is saved as a GIF - and it's still pretty big 'cause there's some invisible noise in the black.

In any case, JPEG does LZW (or similar) compression as a final step, so a JPEG would also have been very small if the noise was removed.

Europa (1, Funny)

Fastball (91927) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018622)

All these worlds are yours to explore except Europa. Attempt no landing there.

Celestia (5, Informative)

msheppard (150231) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018653)

Pretty kewl to enter the date/time May 8, 9:00Est, navigate to mars and see the rendered view for yourself. Celstia lets you do this, it's a free solar system simulator. Really high-quality too IMHO. It gets the image pretty close. Make Jupiters moons a little brighter, and the earth is too clear, but it's still an educational exersize... but then again what isn't.

M@

Where did all the stars go? (2)

Goalie_Ca (584234) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018659)

I see planets but no stars? Am i missing something!?

Re:Where did all the stars go? (1)

pinkboi (533214) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018711)

Perhaps the stars were flooded out by the sun and they had to darken the whole image?

all the way from mars (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018661)

that explains the lag, i guess ;)

That's no Earth... (1)

LordHunter317 (90225) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018662)

It's a space station!

*rimshot*

Re:That's no funny comment! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018725)

It's a total bomb...

This picture is OLD (5, Funny)

Kaz Riprock (590115) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018668)


I'd say over 5000 years old! This picture was one of the last ones taken by our ancestors before they boarded the last ships off of Mars towards Earth. After laying waste to all of Mars' natural resources and destroying the atmosphere, they needed a new place to call home. With the buildings and cars turning into fine iron dust under the heavy beating of the UV rays of the sun, they took one last snapshot and headed for Earth. Of course, there was a problem on the ride here and the computer lost all of its memory with only the hairdressers and accountants surviving the trip...

I think you know how the rest went.

It's good to see the picture's survived this long...it bodes well for Kodak and Fuji in our future.

Astrology on Mars (2, Funny)

smooge (3938) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018672)

So I wonder what my horoscope would be if I lived on Mars?

New Trek theme? (3, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018677)

"On a five year mission thru the dangerous Omicron nebula to figure out who the f8cking hell slashdotted Earth!"

Boom (4, Funny)

szquirrel (140575) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018698)

If you examine the image very closely, you can see their server. The explosion is visible from space.

Makes you realize how big Jupiter is... (4, Interesting)

mooman (9434) | more than 11 years ago | (#6018699)

If you go to the space.com [space.com] website, they show you that in that shot, Jupiter is about 7 times farther away from the viewpoint, but it still appears dramatically larger than earth in the full image.

We all know Jupiter is big but this rare chance to phyicially see it compared to our own planet is kinda profound...

or maybe I just need to get out more.

Nasa is good at this (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6018714)

"apparently the Moon had to be "processed" into the pic"

I suspect it must be done pretty well ..considering they have experience processing the moon into pics ever since they did it with Neil Armstrong back in 1969.

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