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Apple Updates, Cripples iTunes

pudge posted more than 11 years ago | from the oops dept.

Media (Apple) 653

squiggleslash writes "Apple has issued an update to iTunes 4, iTunes 4.0.1. It can be downloaded via Software Update. The big change seems to be that iTunes will now only stream music to other Macs on the same subnet. This is presumably a response to people publishing public lists of shared iTunes playlists, though it does mean that anyone wanting to stream music from home to work or vice versa is SOL. Oh well." You can't share between 4.0 and 4.0.1 iTunes, so be careful in updating. AppleScript access to shared playlist tracks is fixed, though. Woop woop.

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653 comments

VPNs (5, Interesting)

MBCook (132727) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051925)

I don't have access to a Mac (let alone two) but couldn't you use a VPN if you wanted to stream from home to work or vice versa? You know, tunnel the traffic so it looks like one local network even though it isn't?

Re:VPNs (4, Interesting)

JoeBuck (7947) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051939)

Certainly, or use SSH port forwarding.

Re:VPNs (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051976)

Haven't tried setting up a VPN, but I have tried using a SSH tunnel and that does not work with iTunes.

SSH Tunnelling iTunes works just fine (5, Informative)

notyou (39419) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052159)

Whatchutalkinboutwillis?

This worked just fine from both a local Linux and Solaris box:

ssh -g -L 3689:homemac:3689 me@homemac

Then point the workmac -> daap://worklinux

The trick is, you can't set up the SSH tunnel *from* the Mac itself, because iTunes doesn't like connecting to localhost or even 127.0.0.1 (or maybe it was ports other than 3689).

Re:VPNs (1, Interesting)

kwerle (39371) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051978)

Certainly, or use SSH port forwarding.

Anyone tested to see if this works - especially the ssh tunneling?

Re:VPNs (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051996)

I have tried a SSH tunnel, and it does not work with iTunes.

Re:VPNs (0, Troll)

Mr. McGibby (41471) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052056)

Well, it should've. There's no reason it shouldn't. Or are you just a trolling AC?

Re:VPNs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052100)

> Well, it should've. There's no reason it shouldn't. Or are you just a trolling AC?

Well, since he tried it and you didn't, I'd say it's obvious who's the troll here.

Why not try it out, *then* post - or is that just TOOO much work?..

Re:VPNs (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051955)

Absolutely. I'd try it, but I'm afraid it might make me ghey.

Re:VPNs (5, Interesting)

Bigbluejerk (535787) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051992)

Couldn't Apple have just added encryption to iTunes streaming?

what they should have done (5, Interesting)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052131)

Apple's Music Store allows you to authorize up to three Macs to play your purchased music. They could have allowed you to share music with any machine that has your key. This would satisfy the "want to listen to home music at work" request while still meeting their responsibility not to allow outright piracy.

horse cock (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051927)

horse cock

WHERE?! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051964)

*DROOOL*
(but I prefer mare pussy)

Re:WHERE?! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052023)

oh definitely. there is nothing like digging your face in and eating out that huge wet mare pussy.

Re:WHERE?! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052042)

Mmmmm :) *wink* *oof* *wink *grunt* *squeeeze* *squirrrt*. Maregasm is one of the best things in the world!

Re:WHERE?! (-1, Offtopic)

PukkaStoryTeller (661614) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052072)

Hey! They don't call him "COWBOY"NEAL for nothing!

Doh... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052120)

Cows are stinky.
Have you tried "Gassa"? It's some kind of food a bit like pizza, only more handy. I once found a booth where gassa tasted with mare cum. I bought maybe 8 of them. Unfortunately it doesn't smell like this anymore. I wish I had collected some of the mare cum when I had opportunity to, just to use it as a spice. It smells great and tastes quite nice too!

Re:Doh... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052174)

I could perhaps call myself a dabbler in the delicacies of horse cum. Recently my barn was raided by those psychopathic PETA extremists. I had special orders in arrangement for many users of the slashdot community, including a huge black stallion cum extract.. vintage quality for our buddy cowboyneal's ranch

New bug fix, more restrictive? (2, Insightful)

Quasar1999 (520073) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051930)

Is it just me, or do companies seem to do this too often... Oh, here's a new version that fixes the bugs that you've complained about, but we snuck in a few restrictions too... (think MS and XP SP1...)

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (4, Insightful)

mosch (204) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051958)

I think a more accurate assessment would be: well, we tried to let you share your stuff between work and home, but then tens of thousands of dillweeds decided to share with random strangers instead, so now we have to fuck everybody.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (2, Funny)

Telastyn (206146) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052009)

Since when is apple in the business of law enforcement?

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (5, Insightful)

ender81b (520454) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052052)

Since when is apple in the business of law enforcement?

Since a failure to enforce copyright provisions or enabling consumers to share pirated music will cause lawsuits to rain down upon their heads a la kazaa, napster, etc, etc.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (0)

platypus (18156) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052148)

Since a failure to enforce copyright provisions or enabling consumers to share pirated music will cause lawsuits to rain down upon their heads a la kazaa, napster, etc, etc.


Oh puleeze!

Nobody could sue apple for producing a _server_ which could potentially used for distributing mp3s.
Mind you, this is _not_ like kazaa, where one could argue that they base their business modell on people sharing stuff which is illegal to share.
If this is really the reason, expect real, microsoft, ibm, apache foundation and any fucking one else who produces server software to be targeted, too.

No, I guess this is just a political move to not destroy their onlince music buying (whatever it'S alled) thingy.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (2, Informative)

ender81b (520454) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052188)

Yes they could and would sue Apple. Unlike apache, microsoft and ibm the apple server exists for one purpose - to serve music. And if that music is being illegally shared.. shrug.

I wouldn't put it past them to sue apple or - at the very least - cancel their contract with apple which would cause apple's Music store to fail miserably.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (2, Insightful)

usr122122121 (563560) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052066)

Since when is apple in the business of law enforcement?
They aren't, but they also don't want to carry the responsibility of having created a method by which to violate laws...

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (5, Insightful)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052076)

Has nothing to do with Law enforcement. Apple are (to my knowledge) still negotiating with the "Big 5" for the ability to use iTunesMusic store with Windows users. I'd lay good money it was done not to piss those guys off.

Frankly, I'm not too worried about it. I sneaker net all my crap to work via iPod anyway.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (2, Insightful)

direktor (555215) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052086)

Since Napster went down and companies have to assess their culpability in copyright protection issues. Letting people steal music via software they produce leaves them wide open for lawsuits from the RIAA.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052089)

Since they opened their Music Store.

You think the participating record labels are happy to see iTunes become the latest in music sharing apps?

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

cruppel (603595) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052124)

Since they struck an agreement with these record companies. Probably in there somwhere it says "yo don't take advantage of us and we'll cut you off if you let it happen"

Of course, that's only an issue if you've downloaded music from the iTunes store.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (5, Insightful)

rsmith-mac (639075) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052029)

Indeed. With that kind of sharing(streaming songs to strangers, multiple people at a time), Apple stood a good chance of running afowl of the DMCA, which has some slightly sharp teeth. Apple had to fix this, or risk a major legal battle with the RIAA; and if you've seen the RIAA's ideas on file sharing numbers, they'd hit Apple up for millions upon millions of dollars. I don't know about you, but I prefer Apple solvent.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

Mr. McGibby (41471) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052082)

How would this have run up against the DMCA?

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

Josuah (26407) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052108)

It wouldn't, because the copy protection in the iTunes Music Store still applies and is not circumvented.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

rsmith-mac (639075) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052126)

IANAL, but my understanding is that they can be nailed under the same provisions of the DMCA(and all other standing laws) as Kazaa, Napster, etc.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

rsmith-mac (639075) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052154)

Doh, this is meant to be a reply to McGibby, not myself.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

RPI Geek (640282) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051961)

Or the GBA SP (think the Penny Arcade Cartoon about it).

"Hey look, now I can actually see the screen of the damn thing, but oops, I can't listen to it with headphones unless I buy the adaptor."

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051969)

I'm as big on bashing MS as the next ./'er, but what exactly did XP SP1 restrict?

I can't think of anything.

Try to stick to facts, not platitudes.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

mac123 (25118) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051995)

What is the XP SP1 reference supposed to mean? I don't recall SP1 restricting anything

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052047)

You couldn't install XP SP1 if you had stolen your copy of XP. That doesn't sound like a fair comparison to me, though.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

ComputerSlicer23 (516509) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052106)

Didn't SP1, or one of the hot fixes, or the WMP updates, include a EULA change that says basically, you agree to let us do a number of things that are intrusive, that you didn't agree to in the first license?

So to get the fixes, you had to agree to a EULA that you didn't want to.

Kirby

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052024)

You are completely totally right. I saw something coming when they released iTunes 4. Call me crazy, but I am extremely suspicious of the new AAC format, especially the DRM version of it. My worst fear is that someday my old MP3s will no longer work with iTunes. Laugh if you want, but my current archive is far more important to me than anything I could ever buy from the iTunes Music Store. In sum total. Ever.

And so, you know what? I just didn't upgrade from iTunes 3, and I doubt I ever will. That is the difference between Apple and Microsoft. You don't have to trust Apple. If you are willing to do without new features, you can avoid new restrictions. With Microsoft, you are forced to get the new restrictions just to get bug fixes.

Re:New bug fix, more restrictive? (1)

Entropy_ajb (227170) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052169)

I assume that you are talking about pirated CD-keys no longer working with WinXP SP1. And if you are the two things are nothing alike. In one situation, a company stopped(or rather tried to stop) the pirating of the product, and in the other the company reduced the functionality of a product. There is no fair use for using one of the pirated CD-keys. There is however fair use for sharing music across different subnets.

And so it begins (-1, Flamebait)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051931)

The restrictions pile on to Apples oh-so-wonderful new music sales software. And nary a complaint from the /. faithful.

It's getting more and more like the DRM you all hate, and less and less like kazaa is it not?

Face it, Apple is after your dollars just like everyone else.

Re:And so it begins (2, Funny)

The Clockwork Troll (655321) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051968)

This is simply part of the iTunes 4.0.1 "Stream Different" campaign.

Re:And so it begins (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052000)

> Face it, Apple is after your dollars just like everyone else.

Erm... of course
I mean... it's a company

What did you expect?

Apple never claimed they were going to make free illegal MP3's legal, they only claimed that it was possible to integrate the internet into a solid profitable business plan, showing to the music industry that music over the net can be used for "good" as well.

Of course, if you prefer Kazaa's "we don't think we should pay for what other people put money and effort into" approach, that's fine. Getting muic for free always sounds like a good idea to the people on the receiving end. Funny how many people have a "philosophy" that they should get things for free in life. Thank god Kazaa isn't after your dollars... (oh wait, it is)

Re:And so it begins (1)

ozzmosis (99513) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052062)

> Face it, Apple is after your dollars just like everyone else.

Well.. yeah.. They are a business.

Re:And so it begins (3, Funny)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052069)

And nary a complaint from the /. faithful.
Absolutely, damn Slashbots. I mean, if this was Microsoft, you'd expect someone to, within an hour or two of the update being available, submit a story to Slashdot like "Microsoft Updates, Cripples WMP", and Slashdot to post it to their front page in an instant, with loads of people criticising WMP for being proprietry and closed and having DRM and others posting workarounds to get around it and others blaming the RIAA.

But because this is Apple nothing of the kind has happened... uh, I'll get my coat.

Re:And so it begins (4, Interesting)

gsfprez (27403) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052081)

No, i'm complaining, and i'm sure others will as well.

Apple is rapidly approaching a point that their only saving grace is that there is nary a hint that Apple is actively maintaining rights to my Mac to disable any software that may do this, if iTunes 4 won't - such as in XP, w2k, etc.

If/when that happens, then yeah, i will remove X and install YDL on the whole damn hard drive.

Damn shame.... (0, Flamebait)

berniecase (20853) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051932)

Internet sharing was pretty useful for a lot of people. It's too bad that just a few developers screwed everything up for the majority of users.

They took Rip, from Rip-Mix-Burn, where they shouldn't have.

yeah! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051935)

i'm gay

fair use? (5, Insightful)

esome (166227) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051940)

I can understand Apple's need to restrist internet streaming but there are those of us who like to stream our tunes from home to office and it seems like fair use to stream your own music to yourself no matter how far apart your computers are.

Try this instead (4, Informative)

djupedal (584558) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051991)

Netjuke...streaming, admin, etc. [sourceforge.net] Internet access galore....just the thing for home to office. I use it daily. Just between me and me.

Note Netjuke uses PHP, Apache & MySQL, and can be tricky setting up on OS X, but once it's done you are set for remote music access/admin.

Re:fair use? (4, Informative)

no_opinion (148098) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052094)

There is nothing preventing you from authorizing your work computer as one of your 3 machines. Then you can listen to your music in both places without having to worry about packet drops, etc. When you change jobs, you can just de-authorize your work computer.

I've tried this myself and it works great.

Re:fair use? (1)

zutroy (542820) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052178)

Here's a simple PHP script for doing exactly what you need:

Playlist 1.0 [hotscripts.com]

Frost Pissed? (0, Offtopic)

Grog6 (85859) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051941)

So, Upgrade and lose functionality, or not upgrade....
At least it's not a critical windows security problem.

from the oops dept. (1)

caluml (551744) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051942)

from the oops dept.

I wouldn't think there was much of an "oops" about it. I'm sure it's all carefully planned.

offtopic reply (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052048)

I just wanted to let you know that the project you mention in your .sig is one hell of an idea. Perhaps you should start a journal on it...?

Bah.... (0, Troll)

HatesMS (675875) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051943)

Apple must have OCD or something. They keep changing....ugh. I hate them. :-)

Re:Bah.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052041)

Hey pinhead, Al Gore never said that, nor did he imply it.

Bush fans - slightly below toasters on the food chain.

Had to happen... (0, Flamebait)

Sheetrock (152993) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051945)

I was a bit concerned that iTunes as it stood was a bit too lenient about what it would permit. This was probably a necessary change to allow them to continue to deliver RIAA content.

This should be a wakeup to you Apple people: your company will be just as willing to cater to the RIAA as ours, but it's better at letting you think you're getting your way. It's just a matter of time before iTunes becomes entirely music rental.

Re:Had to happen... (1)

Valar (167606) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052006)

And it's only so long before microsoft owns the rights to your PC, whether you have windows installed or not. Oh wait, happened already. You make me smile.

Re:Had to happen... (1)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052019)

And that's different from a closed hardware architecture how?

Re:Had to happen... (5, Insightful)

SmoothriderSean (657482) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052020)

I suppose it's not much help to point out that at least the description of the update makes the crippling pretty clear. Unfortunately, this is the cost of doing business with the RIAA. Until the copyright laws change or artists can start hitting the big time without signing to one of the major labels, no amount of pressure on online music stores - whether Apple's, the upcoming Napster (tm), or anything else with major content - will change this.

Re:Had to happen... (3, Informative)

GlassHeart (579618) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052088)

a wakeup to you Apple people: your company will be just as willing to cater to the RIAA as ours, but it's better at letting you think you're getting your way. It's just a matter of time before iTunes becomes entirely music rental.

Don't be silly. There is no shortage of alternatives for an Apple customer, if Apple becomes just like everybody else. It's a good bet to assume that Apple understands that its survival depends on being better.

This is simply a case of a little secret that people should've just enjoyed quietly. As for the indignant protests from people who want to stream music from home to work: do you really think your IT department will not pay you a visit once more than a few people start continuously sucking 128 kbps each?

Re:Had to happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052197)

It's a good bet to assume that Apple understands that its survival depends on being better.

I just read on /. today the sad news that Apple was found on its bathroom floor dead. It never knew it had to be better, so it never tried, and now it's dead, just as GlassHeart predicted.

Pudge, you fatty mac user (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051947)

I asked a geek "Do you have a girlfriend?". He responded with a very puzzled look. "A girlfriend?," he mused, "Who is the developer?". I chuckled and told him this was not an open source project. He then became slightly angry and inquired, "Are you trying to insult me? Only the best geeks use open source only! What planet are you living on?!". I reassured him I was well aware of his integrity as a geek (white skin, clumsy, pants that are too short, lack of daily shower, pocket protector etc), and explained, "A girlfriend is a female who to a male (most oftenly a male) has an intimate friendship." He gave me a very confused look. "I have never heard of such a thing.. this.. g-g-irlfriend?" He asked me, sounding very baffled. "I have heard of friends before, those pets other people have. But what is this thing you say.. Grill?". "Girl," I corrected. Then I asked him to sit down on a bench nearby so I could explain it too him, the poor, helpless thing. I told him that for human beings to reproduce, sexual intercourse must occur between a male and a female. "Perhaps you hear the trolls mention a thing called "pussy" on slashdot?". The geek burst into laughter, "Haha, you have been browsing at -1 lately, haven't you? You know that is just troll talk. Those silly trolls never have anything intelligent to say." My face turned serious. "My dear geek, are you not aware of the female population amongst you? Do you not stare in the street and want to hump a post when you pass by a hot, slim, gorgeous looking chick with a firm bust and well sculpted ass?". The geek immediately began to appear as if we was having a nervous breakdown. His glasses began to fog up and he took them off to wipe them with this linux embroidered shirt, "I think I know what you are talking about. Those things are icky. They have cooties. Get away from me!" I felt offended. "Nonsense, I pleaded! Pussy is a beautiful thing. A sacred thing that you should strive to give pleasure to." The geek would not listen and he began to cry. "STOP IT!! You are EVIL!!" He then, quite geekishly, skipped off down the path. I walked back to my house feeling rather disheartened. 'Why don't they listen to me' I asked myself? When I got home my girlfriend opened the door. She was wearing short-shorts and a sports bra. She had been doing the thigh master for the past 30 minutes and was sweating. I could see her dark nipples underneath her slightly damp bra. Oh god I could fuck her to the moon and back. I could smell her horniness the second I took my shoes off. I chased her, both of us laughing, to our bedroom [THE FOLLOWING has been censored for the well-being of geeks].... Six hours later, finally satisfied a little, I sat up and noticed that same geek hiding in the trees. He had been watching us the entire time. I swear his penis had to have been the size of a fucking horse cock (not bad for a geek, i might add), and he appeared as if he had gone into a state of shock. I could see cum stains forming near the bulge of his pant zipper. I thought to myself. There is one geek, finally brought into the real world.

Here is a formatted version (-1, Offtopic)

acposter (673722) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052167)

I asked a geek "Do you have a girlfriend?". He responded with a very puzzled look. "A girlfriend?," he mused, "Who is the developer?". I chuckled and told him this was not an open source project. He then became slightly angry and inquired, "Are you trying to insult me? Only the best geeks use open source only! What planet are you living on?!". I reassured him I was well aware of his integrity as a geek (white skin, clumsy, pants that are too short, lack of daily shower, pocket protector etc), and explained, "A girlfriend is a female who to a male (most oftenly a male) has an intimate friendship." He gave me a very confused look. "I have never heard of such a thing.. this.. g-g-irlfriend?" He asked me, sounding very baffled. "I have heard of friends before, those pets other people have. But what is this thing you say.. Grill?". "Girl," I corrected. Then I asked him to sit down on a bench nearby so I could explain it too him, the poor, helpless thing.

I told him that for human beings to reproduce, sexual intercourse must occur between a male and a female. "Perhaps you hear the trolls mention a thing called "pussy" on slashdot?". The geek burst into laughter, "Haha, you have been browsing at -1 lately, haven't you? You know that is just troll talk. Those silly trolls never have anything intelligent to say." My face turned serious. "My dear geek, are you not aware of the female population amongst you? Do you not stare in the street and want to hump a post when you pass by a hot, slim, gorgeous looking chick with a firm bust and well sculpted ass?". The geek immediately began to appear as if we was having a nervous breakdown. His glasses began to fog up and he took them off to wipe them with this linux embroidered shirt, "I think I know what you are talking about. Those things are icky. They have cooties. Get away from me!" I felt offended. "Nonsense, I pleaded! Pussy is a beautiful thing. A sacred thing that you should strive to give pleasure to."

The geek would not listen and he began to cry. "STOP IT!! You are EVIL!!" He then, quite geekishly, skipped off down the path. I walked back to my house feeling rather disheartened. 'Why don't they listen to me' I asked myself? When I got home my girlfriend opened the door. She was wearing short-shorts and a sports bra. She had been doing the thigh master for the past 30 minutes and was sweating. I could see her dark nipples underneath her slightly damp bra. Oh god I could fuck her to the moon and back. I could smell her horniness the second I took my shoes off. I chased her, both of us laughing, to our bedroom [THE FOLLOWING has been censored for the well-being of geeks].... Six hours later, finally satisfied a little, I sat up and noticed that same geek hiding in the trees. He had been watching us the entire time. I swear his penis had to have been the size of a fucking horse cock (not bad for a geek, i might add), and he appeared as if he had gone into a state of shock. I could see cum stains forming near the bulge of his pant zipper. I thought to myself. There is one geek, finally brought into the real world.

Re:Here is a formatted version (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052196)

nahh, do you think i should format it?

The truth is... (2, Informative)

paranoidsim (239426) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051949)

there are a million ways around this, though assumingly unbeknownst to most mac users.

Re:The truth is... (1)

HatesMS (675875) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051970)

That's what mac users are for. :O)

Re:The truth is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052012)

There are ways around, but when it was built in, why now make is much harder?

welcome to closed-source software! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051960)

Who knows what the next version will bring? No more sharing at all? AAC-only? Stronger DRM? Deactivate all your downloads and make you pay again? Mac OS X will disallow downloads of store-bought files at the OS level?

WHO KNOWS!

Crapity crap (0, Redundant)

lunenburg (37393) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051963)

I was loving being able to sit at work and connect to my password-protected home library and stream the tunes.

I'm sure someone will find a way around it, but it still sucks. Guess I'll stick with 4.0 for the time being.

Downgrade Gnomes (4, Funny)

RPI Geek (640282) | more than 11 years ago | (#6051990)

Step 1: Update software with silly restrictions.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!

Re:Downgrade Gnomes (0, Offtopic)

HatesMS (675875) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052011)

lmfao!!

Re:Downgrade Gnomes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052087)

BOO

Re:Downgrade Gnomes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052112)

What's silly about streaming to the same subnet? It helps keep people legal.

So, what ever happened to CD-Rs? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6051994)

So, if you want to listen to music you have at home at work, why not just put the music on a CD-R and bring it in to work?

Re:So, what ever happened to CD-Rs? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052063)

Or better yet ... buy an iPod!

Re:So, what ever happened to CD-Rs? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052123)

Because i don't feel like carrying around 70 gig of cd-r's you fucking nimrod.

Re:So, what ever happened to CD-Rs? (1)

JohnnyX12 (673261) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052127)

Yea, now I just need to find a way to get that 8gigs onto that 650mb cd-r. Care to write a compression program for me?

Re:So, what ever happened to CD-Rs? (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052147)

So, if you want to listen to music you have at home at work, why not just put the music on a CD-R and bring it in to work?

Choosing a mere 650MB out of your multi-GB collection to burn to CD is annoying and time-consuming. Then, figuring out which CD the song you want to hear is on is annoying, and switching disks and switching back is annoying - unless you copy it all to the hard drive at work, which might be illegal.

It could have been worse (2, Insightful)

trippy (94675) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052003)

We could have seen the end of the feature completely. Now i can still go to a friends with my laptop and listen to his music. If streaming your music to your work is that big of a deal, there are other programs to do so that will grant you more control over it.

Are there some good hackers around... (2, Interesting)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052010)

...to create a "hotfix" for that? I guess that's 5 mins work and a 3k binary to repair this, for a skilled person... Then just put the "hotfix" along with your music list...

Proxy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052015)

How hard would it be to develop some sort of proxy? Is it a problem with iTunes refusing to connect to a "far away" source or a problem with iTunes refusing to stream to a "far away" destination?

Fun while it lasted (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052025)

iTunes 4.0 shares on a local network appear grayed out and will not let you connect. The "connect to shared music (CMD+K) button" is removed as well meaning that only shares found by rendezvous are accessible. Clicking on daap:// links causes the current song to stop and itunes to sit idle.

Fortunatly you can run iTunes 4.0 and 4.0.1 on the same system without any trouble.

I used to share (stream) with a couple of neighbors but looks like those days are over. I don't believe that this was done to save iTMS from the wrath of labels: m4p files wouldn't play unless you had been authorized - and all files from iTMS were in the protected format. Standard MP3/M4A files would download and play without incident so the pirates will just move on to gnutella and not think twice.

Why not a file format that would stream but not download or require authorization from the streaming computer to play - that way you'd only have to download it once. If you ony let 1 user play at a time it would be like a library.

It was fun while it lasted.

100 better ways to steal music (4, Insightful)

gsfprez (27403) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052036)

I find it inane that Apple a) didn't simply say "the music execs, thinking stupidly, that this was a great way to steal music, so we downgraded, sorry". b) didn't point out to them that there are some 10 better, faster, simpler, more robust ways to steal music than iTunes 4 and Audio Hijack... ask them if they had ever heard of Gnutella, Kazza, Grokster, Limewire, yada yada yada.

this is stupid, it doesn't so anything to stop "stealing", and only hurts people who were using the functionality legitmately.

I had a bad tingling in my bones when Apple and the big 5 got together.. i hope this is where this kind of bullshit compromizing ends. What are they going to do next, shitcan iChat 2's teleconferenceing because someone can send files back and forth on it and some a-hole at Sony Music complains?

Come on, Apple - if this is what you have to do in order to sleep with the music companies, then to hell with them.

and speaking of which - where the hell are the indie artists' and their music on iTMS? Huh?

Seems like... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052049)

...this is the next biggest upset in the mac community. the first occured when two-button mouses came out for macs, sending their users into a mass state of confusion.

Re:Seems like... (0, Offtopic)

HatesMS (675875) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052057)

...uhh what? RIGHT CLICK!?

Dear Apple (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052053)

Dear Apple,

I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

with much gayness,

Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.

Use SliMP3 software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052054)

I saw a hint about this on MacOSXHints...

I the SliMP3 server software [slimp3.com] for the super-awesome-gotta-have-one-as-soon-as-have-more- than-$3.50-in-my-pocket
SliMP3 music thingy is GREAT and it reads iTunes ID3v2 tags (unlike most stuff), works with Rendezvous, allows you to make and save playlists, and streams anywhere you like over HTTP.

You can have multiple machines each playing a different playlist, you can *synchronize* multiple machines, you can control everything from one web page. AWESOME!!

I was looking for web-based streaming and went through a whole bunch of crap (none of it could read the iTunes tags for one thing), and never even thought of this, even though I'm planning to buy the SliMP3 player.

Check it out, stream your music that way.

No it doesn't work with AAC (even unprotected) unfortunately but I have all my stuff in MP3 and I've re-encoded the few bought tracks I have back to MP3 so I can play them on my other machines.

This ain't 1984's Apple, baby! (2, Funny)

PHAEDRU5 (213667) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052058)

But then, that Apple never was either, was it?

Dear Father O'Day (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052077)

Dear Father O'Day:

Thanks for your letter. Being Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're talking about! It has always been our plan here at Apple Computer Inc to revolutionize personal computing with our high-quality and highly gay products.

I'm happy to answer your letter by letting you know that YES we will be releasing an entire hLife ("homo-life") software line. You'll be able to recognize it in stores by the small stylized logo depicting a large cock entering a tight anus with an Apple logo on it. ("Suddenly it all comes together" indeed!).

Anyway, I hope you and other members of our community will join us on our mission, and purchase the exciting new hLife boxed set. Only the boxed set comes with translucent cock rings!

Sincerely,

Harry Rodman
Vice-president
Homosexual Liaison Services
Apple Computer, Inc.

if you want to play ogg files ... (1)

timothy (36799) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052128)

Yes, iTunes + plug-in will play them. Today, I put on my iBook a little app (freeware, used to be shareware, but not open source ... at least, I don't *see* a link to source ;)) called Whamb [whamb.com] .

Which has zero zilch nada to do with all the *other* things iTunes can do wrt streaming etc, just a note if that's the reason you're bringing up Ye Olde Medyia Player, and since it's the reason I'm bringing up mine ...

timothy

Expect more of this. (4, Insightful)

Hobbex (41473) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052133)

It would be naive to think that more changes like this are not coming as Mac users figure out how to do what they actually want by working around the "soft" restrictions that has been placed on the music service so far.

Personally, I find the general acceptance of Apple's DRM system, especially here, very frightening. When you accept DRM, you accept giving up control over your own computer, and ALL power to use the data in the manner that you see fit. Then you are the subject of the DRM system, which may grant you ability to do things, when and if it feels fit. It doesn't matter if the DRM system has been your friend up until today: tomorrow you could wake up and find that due to new terms from the music industry you can no longer make any copies of the music what so ever. Or that you have to pay per play for your entire music catalogue. Or that the DRM system has been discontinued and all its your... sorry... its encrypted files are useless.

This is exactly the old frog boiling analogy. The music company services like Pressplay and co. made the DRM too annoying, so the users jumped right out. By making the DRM initially quite lenient, the Apple strategy is to get users to accept the the concept that their computers decide what they can and cannot do, because it seems the cauldron actually isn't such a bad place for a swim. Expect the limitations to get tighter and tighter as the general acceptance grows...

And I, who was so fond of my ipod :-(.

I'm not up on the specifics... (2, Insightful)

SamTheButcher (574069) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052140)

...and I don't really care. I haven't read the posts here yet, but I hope there's not a lot of grousing about it. Apple is fully in the right on this, if their software is being used in a way they don't like, they can certainly change it. They've never been up for pirating, and shouldn't be.

Here We Go Again (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6052158)

It's yet another biased, sensationalist Slashdot story. Oh, Apple stopped supporting the abuse of a feature that was never intended to be used in the way that's now being restricted! They MUST be evil (this week)! Folks, this is not the crippling of iTunes; it's a bunch of fixes (like the volume levels problem) and the end of an opportunity for people to pirate music.

I'm not a fan of the RIAA, but that doesn't make piracy of their stuff acceptable. If you don't like the terms, don't buy the music. Apple worked very hard to get the RIAA to soften up as much as it has with DRM in the iTunes Music Store. To risk it all now just to let a few geeks listen to their home music at the office would be a stupid move and it's not as if this particular feature was the only way of doing so. There is absolutely no evidence that this is the beginning of an evil trend of Apple crushing its users in DRM or anything like that!

Unfortunately, a more objective article (as in, one that doesn't shout that Apple is crippling iTunes in the headline) seems to be too much to ask of Slashdot. Sorry guys, I'm as liberal as the next guy, but that doesn't mean that large corporations are necessarily evil demons trying to take over the world. I think I'm leaving this site for good, in case anyone cares (I am registered, but figured that I am alone in being reasonable and might as well be anonymous to you all.).

Fine. (5, Insightful)

bobm17ch (643515) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052160)


This is a fair move by Apple.

It keeps the RIAA happy. (An unfortunate necessity in order to main catalogue diversity).
It still allows for a modicum of fair use.

The way I see it (and so do Apple I assume) is that when you are on the move, or away from your mac, you listen to your iPod. When you are at home / work (wherever your mac is), you can listen to whatever the hell you like, and if you like it, you can buy it and burn it.

Apple are setting the benchmark for this market now - if other companies join in and add more draconian DRM, they will fail.

I, for one, welcome our new, fruity overlords. :)

without reading the article.. (1)

pinkfalcon (215531) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052175)


Can this be worked around by setting your netmask to something like 0.0.0.0 (i.e. local subnet include whole internet).

The README of 4 already said same subnet only (5, Informative)

catscan2000 (211521) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052180)

All this time, I thought the subnet restriction was already in place because the README had already stated it. I guess 4.0.1 simply implements what the documentation said all along. (and to think that I could have streamed from my LAN to wireless at home all this time.. I should look into bridging..).

Bait and Switch (MBAR resources) (0)

ZackSchil (560462) | more than 11 years ago | (#6052184)

As far as I can see, all the sharing functionality is still built in to iTunes 4.0.1. All the resource files still have the dialogs and menu items. Only the executable has changed to exclude that one "Connect to Shared Library..." menu item. The executable actually gained a bit of weight. I don't know a whole lot about resource hacking but I'm trying to add the item back in to the Advanced menu. I bet you all it'll work then. I'll post here again if I'm successful. Apple engineers rarely take copy protection to more than a superficial level until the next major revision.
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