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President Of India Advocates OSS

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the one-billion-new-users-can't-be-wrong dept.

GNU is Not Unix 702

cOdEgUru writes "I am sure this is a first. The President of India has urged Indian IT Professionals to develop and specialise in OSS rather than Windows. To be noted is that he made the speech (look for the "Think Different" section) at the famous Indian Institute of Information Technology (India's foremost academic institution equivalent to MIT). Also he reminisces that his meeting with Mr.Gates were difficult due to differing views concerning OSS and Security. What should be noted about him is that he is not a politician, but a scientist and an independent thinker foremost."

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Great (3, Funny)

gexen (123248) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066767)

Great for India. This is a great thing. If only the Indian food place near me would open source the recipe for Chicken Tika Mahkani.

Re:Great (2, Informative)

flokemon (578389) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066810)

It might not be the exact recipe from your local Indian restaurant, but you can find a recipe here [freeuk.com] or here [cdkitchen.com] for instance.

Has anyone else got difficulties getting used to ./'s new colours?

Re:Great (1)

Call Me Black Cloud (616282) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066821)

Look here [cdkitchen.com]...maybe one of those will work for you. Personally I don't care for indian food but will choke it down from time to time out of love for my wife...

Re:Great - chicken Tikka (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066832)

http://rutherfurd.net/cookbook/Meat_and_Fish/Chick en_Tikka.html :-)

Re:Great (1)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066960)

This news makes me want to go out and have the all-you-can eat buffet at the local Indian food place in celebration!

first post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066768)

first post

Problems? (-1, Offtopic)

richie2000 (159732) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066773)

See any problems with this story? Email our on-duty editor.

Except that I'm not a subscriber? Nope. Looks just fine to me.

Re:Problems? (-1, Offtopic)

Surak (18578) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066799)

Even if you were, you wouldn't be able to post...this story is obviously supposed to be 'mysterious future' post but it has a timestamp on it. This is weird.

I'm sure we'll be seeing some sort of story explaining what's going on w/the changes on the front page (like the story that's blue). Right, Taco & Co.? ;)

Re:Problems? (-1, Offtopic)

richie2000 (159732) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066839)

Really weird. Just now, I was kicked out and was unable to log back in for a while. Oh, the pain! I looked at this story, saw the second comment to my post and clicked on the link to read it, that threw me back to the front page, except it had one ad per story - probably to compensate for the two ad-free stories we got. And the RCTW one was green but now it's back to blue again.

Go easy on the lighter fluid, editors!

Re:Problems? (1, Informative)

jamie (78724) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066864)

Yeah. Stuff was broken. Now it's fixed (we believe). We're working on a more permanent and better fix.

It happens :/

Re:Problems? (-1, Offtopic)

richie2000 (159732) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066884)

(we believe)

Hey, I want to believe too!

Excrement occurs, but what happened to the other comments to my post? The big bit bucket?

Stop with the Red articles (-1, Offtopic)

Krandor3 (621755) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066779)

I'm glad I'm not a subscriber now because that red is just painful on the eyes. If this is a plan to try to get more people to subscribe, it isn't working for me. Pay to have my eyes hurt?

colors!! (-1, Offtopic)

cyborch (524661) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066783)

What are all these colors doing on the main page?!?!

This is quickly getting VERY ugly?

Can I turn it off somewhere?

Go ahead mod me off-topic and troll etc. but this is *very* ugly!

Will it work? (0, Troll)

Sp4c3 C4d3t (607082) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066792)

I have this overwhelming feeling that India will still be enslaved by MS, just like most of the rest of the world. How many years will it take for Linux to become mainstream there? 5? If so, the fight is already over.

Oh? (1)

StarKruzr (74642) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066840)

"If so, the fight is already over."

Why?

Re:Oh? (1)

Sp4c3 C4d3t (607082) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066852)

We all know how MS works... they continually lock us in as time passes. In that amount of time, there will simply be no going back if you're already using MS software.

Not the same situation. (3, Insightful)

StarKruzr (74642) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066872)

India is a growing market, not an already established one. Microsoft is no more "entrenched" there than OSS software is. They could go either way at this point, and if the government (which has lots of nice, fat contracts to hand out to developers) is strongly in favor of OSS, that turns the tide pretty strongly in favor of the Open Source camp.

In India (4, Insightful)

r0xah (625882) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066794)

This is really great statement to be made, but I wonder how well taken by the students it will be. A lot of the students who attend IIT attend so that they can be marketable in a big business like Microsoft. Working on OSS while a great thing is not going to bring them the same potential monitary gains as working for a big name software company. It would be great for a country the population of India to listen and follow their leaders urging, but I seriously doubt in a country where many are trying to break free of poverty that they will work for next to nothing on OSS.

Re:In India (5, Informative)

heytal (173090) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066928)

I am from India, and have been reading these things on /. in the recent stories on India. India is not a poor country, where everyone is just trying to break free of poverty. Please.

There is a sizeable population in India which earns very well and significantly contributes to the Indian economy.

Re:In India (3, Insightful)

afidel (530433) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066953)

There are quite a few large companies looking for OSS talent out there including one of the computing world's largest: IBM. Besides right now Linux is more of a niche because all of the MS certification mills and training centers have flooded the windows market but there isn't really an equivilant in the linux world so while demand is rising quickly the supply isn't.

Re:In India (5, Informative)

pubjames (468013) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066992)

It would be great for a country the population of India to listen and follow their leaders urging, but I seriously doubt in a country where many are trying to break free of poverty that they will work for next to nothing on OSS

You assume that

working on OSS == working for nothing.

Take a look at the kernel development list. You will find that nearly everyone working on the kernel is employed by a big IT company.

Similarly with most other successful OSS projects. IBM has lots of people working on open source. Ditto RedHat, Suse, HP, Sun, AOL and others. I think it is time we dropped this idea that OSS programmers all do it for free - it isn't the case.

Re:In India (5, Insightful)

Charlotte (16886) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067008)

Working on OSS while a great thing is not going to bring them the same potential monitary gains as working for a big name software company.

I think you underestimate the power of the Open Side. Though I have a nice degree and make good money, for any future employment I will primarily refer to my work on open source projects as proof that I am as qualified as I claim to be. Open source work like this - done in the public eye and peer reviewed - has become the best kind of resume and the best way to a good job.

As the economy picks up I'm sure my department will be hiring new system administrators and programmers. If you get two candidates with similar skills, one who worked at Microsoft and one who is maintainer of some Linux kernel driver, who would you hire?

Re:In India (4, Insightful)

Alsee (515537) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067017)

I seriously doubt in a country where many are trying to break free of poverty that they will work for next to nothing on OSS.

Exacly. No one ever gets paid to write, fix, or administer opensource code. [sarcasm]

If those programmers in India want to get paid they have to write, fix, and administer Microsoft code. Errr, oops. Only Microsoft can write or fix Microsoft code. The only thing a typical techie in India can do is administer Microsoft software.

Heck, maybe you're right. If Microsoft software becomes expensive enough to administer maybe it will make up for the lack of a job doing anything else.

-

He talked to BillG about opensource.. (2, Redundant)

heytal (173090) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066795)

In his speech, he said:
I would like to narrate an event that took place in Rashtrapati Bhavan a few months back when I met Bill Gates, the CEO of Microsoft. While walking in the Mughal garden, we were discussing the future challenges in Information Technology including the issues related to software security. I made a point that we look for open source codes so that we can easily introduce the users built security algorithms. Our discussions became difficult since our views were different.

Re:He talked to BillG about opensource.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066827)

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<BillyG> Open source is evil!
<IndyPM> But...
<BillyG> EVIL I SAY!!
<IndyPM> ...

Re:He talked to BillG about opensource.. (1)

Cally (10873) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066847)

Our discussions became difficult since our views were different.

*choke* lor' lumme,.. I'd love to have been a fly on that wall!

Re:He talked to BillG about opensource.. (2, Informative)

jkrise (535370) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066924)

I also remember reading articles today, by a couple of Americans - the outgoing Robert Blackwill, mentioning the imbalance in trade between the US and India - 5 billion vs. 15 billion; and another gentleman suggesting India open it's markets to leading American hitech firms - Boeing and Microsoft! Boeing maybe, but Microsoft?

Considering SFU was developed entirely in India, as well as the fact that all top 20 IT and commn giants have a direct presence in India, Microsoft would come rather late in th list of hitech firms.

Re:He talked to BillG about opensource.. (1)

rsidd (6328) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066993)

And as for Boeing, they have only one competitor in the passenger aircraft space, Airbus. India doesn't make its own, but the airline companies use both extensively. Recently there have been talks of large purchase orders from Airbus, which perhaps has the US worried.

Umm, yeah right (-1, Troll)

pkcs11 (529230) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066804)

This is less newsworthy then when a local kiwanis club member advocated Caldera for their website. **yawn**

Frikin frikinness (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066805)

What's with the frikin' color on that frontpage? RED?!

this guy is a great example (-1, Offtopic)

MORTAR_COMBAT! (589963) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066807)

Of why the US Constitution should be amended such that foreign-born persons would no longer be excluded from running for president.

offtopic? (-1, Troll)

MORTAR_COMBAT! (589963) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066921)

How is this off-topic? The article is about India's president. If he emigrated to the US now, he could be a citizen in time for the 2008 elections. If the US Constitution did not expressly include only US-born people in the presidential eligibility requirements, he could be a very interesting candidate.

The US: "Send us your tired, your weary..." but please, please not anyone who might be qualified to run for president. We reserve that for our own sons of our own billionaires.

Indian president is a technocrat.. (5, Funny)

heytal (173090) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066809)

Slashdot readers may remember that APJ Abdul Kalam, the President of India, is a scientist. He has worked towards developing missiles and the nuclear research of India. He is indeed a rocket scientist.

Anti-Americanism/Microsoftism (-1, Interesting)

BJZQ8 (644168) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066811)

Doesn't surprise me about India. The world is really ganging up against Microsoft simply because they're American I think (or perhaps they just act "American"...and fortunately they're doing it in the form of Open Source. Good thing there isn't a European Microsoft...I mean a wholly European, closed-source company that people could go to instead of MS. Sort of like people around the world are turning to the Euro instead of the dollar. What ever happened to that little Indian linux PDA?

Re:Anti-Americanism/Microsoftism (2, Insightful)

thelexx (237096) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066882)

Euro/dollar activity has little to do with peoples general feelings toward America and much more to do with the fact that Fed Governor Bernanke said, paraphrasing, "we have this thing called a printing press, and we aren't afraid to use it", combined with Alan G saying that we don't have enough inflation.

Re:Anti-Americanism/Microsoftism (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066907)

This crowd is a bunch of hypocrites. Just have a look at this: While some develop OSS to scratch an itch, other (who've gone through that already), now loot from the first ones' effort. But OSS developers fancy that -people exploiting them.

But to see how blind they are due to their zealotry, they think that major OSS projects are not comercially-driven (in the sense, that money drives the project, not the project's needs). Guys like Torvalds, Cox, Miller, Arcangeli, ... all work for a commercial vendor.

Just hypocrites.

Re:Anti-Americanism/Microsoftism (1)

shivianzealot (621339) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066961)

The world is really ganging up against Microsoft simply because they're American I think (or perhaps they just act "American"

Sounds like motivation to at least be seen as behaving.

Unfavorable action = unfavorable consequence. Really, this isn't a bad thing; though can't be good for open source here, in the states, when its phrased that way.

Re:Anti-Americanism/Microsoftism (0)

Per Wigren (5315) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066969)

Not long ago (a year or two), a US dollar cost almost 11 SEK (swedish krona). Earlier this week I saw it was down to 7,76 SEK. I think that's a bigger reason the world is turning to Euro than anything else. The US dollar's value is sinking like Titanic while the Euro is pretty stable...

Re:Anti-Americanism/Microsoftism (2, Interesting)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066972)

As an American I beleive Microsoft is evil and worth ganging up on. Monopolies are the end of capitalism, this is econ 101. MS has gotten too big, assumed monopoly status and needs to be broken. I hope the rest of the world succeeds where Americans have failed. It MUST be destroyed.

Re:Anti-Americanism/Microsoftism (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066983)

It's not anti-americanism to hate the rabid dog you guys have let run free in the name of capitalism.

Rein in MS before you become the only country left beholden to it ...

Re:Anti-Americanism/Microsoftism (1)

zonix (592337) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067026)

Good thing there isn't a European Microsoft...I mean a wholly European, closed-source company that people could go to instead of MS.

There could have been - they're just being bought before they can really make a difference.

z

The outsourced future of Debian (-1, Troll)

Debian Troll (676582) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066814)

Now that the Indian government has put forward a very public commitment to Open Source technologies, I feel it is safe to make an announcement of my own. Bruce Perens was fired from HP as a Debian evangelist because the entire HP Debian team had been outsourced to an IT firm in New Delhi. Astute subscribers to the Debian mailing lists will have noticed a gradual increase in the number of .deb packages now being maintained by 'IT sweatshop' laborers in India. Debian, for all intents and purposes, is now out of the hands of the Americans and the Europeans, and is now where so many IT projects are destined for, on the Indian subcontinent.

Please adjust your apt.sources files accordingly.

Re:The outsourced future of Debian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066844)

<Dr. Evil Voice>riiiight.</Dr. Evil Voice>

true wisdom. (4, Funny)

sweeney37 (325921) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066828)

Mohandas Gandhi once said:
Non-cooperation with evil is a sacred duty.

It's obvious Ghandi would of never used Microsoft.

Mike

Re:true wisdom. (4, Insightful)

s20451 (410424) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066894)

I wonder what Ghandi would say about the president of India having helped design nuclear missiles [geocities.com]?

I suspect he would have something to say about that before getting his shorts in a knot over Microsoft's EULA.

True wisdom, bad grammar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066902)

It's obvious Ghandi would of never used Microsoft.

Er... that would be "would have" or "would've".

Where Are the Asian Indians WIth JBoss? (1)

Baldrson (78598) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066829)

I can't help but notice the rather unusual character of JBoss team [jboss.org] (the premiere open source Java server). Is the disconnect due to money problems forcing Asian Indians to work for money? If so, then why the absence of Asian Indians in the Top Coders [topcoder.com] where the top guys are making enough money in prizes to live in the US or Europe?

Security in OSS, yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066846)

Well, OSS software has a great reputation about its security ;) But, people still get fed with the OSS anti-Microsoft FUD...

What should be noted... (5, Insightful)

Call Me Black Cloud (616282) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066848)


What should be noted about him is that he is not a politician, but a scientist and an independent thinker foremost.

Everyone thinks they are independent thinkers. Someone else is an independent thinker if you agree with him, otherwise he's just being difficult.

Re:What should be noted... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066990)

I'm not.

Not surprised... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066857)

That country is nothing more than a giant sweatshop for the rich countries, for God's sake, they have to eat rats to keep the rat population down. A country that bad would want to use shitty OSS.

WTF? Am I the only one... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066861)

seeing *yellow* over these title colors? What's going on?

A few corrections in the story.. (1, Redundant)

heytal (173090) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066863)

I am from pune, the origin of this story :-)

The speech was not made at IIT (Indian Institute of Technology) as claimed in the story. It was made at IIIT (Indian Institute of Information Technology) a new college on IT.

Re:A few corrections in the story.. (1)

heytal (173090) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066984)

Oops.. the first I in IIIT is not for Indian, but for International. sorry. The correction still remains valid.

Re:A few corrections in the story.. (1)

rsidd (6328) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067012)

According to the link, it was made at the I2IT (international institute of information technology). I've never heard of it but perhaps that's why it's the dedication speech.

Indian Cooking (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066867)

I also think that the important thing to remember is that
rob
can
eat
my
feces.

mmmmmm

brown drippy goodness

Problems regarding accounts or bowel movements should be sent to CowboyNeal.(in a jar or baggie)

shout out to my AC niggas!

Correction! (3, Informative)

arvindn (542080) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066881)

To be noted is that he made the speech (look for the "Think Different" section) at the famous Indian Institute of Information Technology (india's foremost academic institution equivalent to MIT). .

There are two things wrong with that: first, you got the name wrong: he made the speech at the "International Institute of Information Technology". Second, you're probably confusing it with IIT, Indian Institute of Technology, which is the one that fits the description of India's foremost academic institution. Two unrelated universities.

end-to-end solutions (4, Insightful)

flokemon (578389) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066885)

He added that India should emerge not only as a software industry but as an "ICT (Information and communication technology) industry" with equal strengths in software, hardware, embedded systems design, integration and total end-to-end solutions.

I think India is to be reckoned with in the future. Take the pharmaceutical industry at the moment, India has big companies manufacturing generic medicines.
That story actually reminded of that: give them the source/ingredients and they will try to make it, but cheaper. Obviously they can't make free software any cheaper, but if they try to make it a complete solution, then why couldn't they have a chance of succeeding?
The major problem they are facing at the moment imho is probably a lack of qualified IT people, but give them time, and they will surely be there.

It makes sense (3, Insightful)

The Original Yama (454111) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066886)

It makes sense, since the President of India is a top-level scientist (I believe he headed India's nuclear programme) and not a clueless buffoon [gwbush.com].

Note for the humour impaired: this is a joke

Bit Slanted.... (4, Insightful)

moehoward (668736) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066888)

I find the subjective statement that "he is not a politician" to be exceptionally slanted. Clearly, the submitter has alterior motives. It has a certain Clintonian ring to it that suggests that the submitter is the guy's campaign manager.

Any guesses as to what these motives are? How could you say that the leader of the largest democracy in the world is not a politician, first and foremost?

I think the slashdot editors should have stripped that subjective statement from the story. Just because a guy advocates OSS doesn't put him on some new plane of existance.

Anyway, hooray for gov't backed OSS. I'm sure if Bush came out and made the same speech, he'd be crucified on slashdot in some strange way.

30% offtopic, 40% troll, 30% flamebait, 5% funny, 5% love

Re:Bit Slanted.... (1)

rulethirty (673757) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067011)

The "submitter" is obviously a proponent of OSS dumbass, hence OSS is their "alterior motive." Subjective statements are what slashdot is all about! (they aren't a scientific journal for crying out loud!) It does put the Indian president on a new plane of existance, the one most of us identify with!

Okay, It's time for another tech boom (5, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066895)

India is really making gains in the IT world. They are also a rapidly expanding and potentially quite vast market. If a company can get enough of a foothold in India, we may see someone other than MS dominate there.

1 000 000 000 million people worldwide using an Os that isn't Windows..... Now, that would clobber Microsoft's world domination plans.

On a side note, anyone know how I can invest in India's IT stocks?

Re:Okay, It's time for another tech boom (1)

rg117 (225105) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067019)

Yea
All the big India IT companies are listed on the NASDAQ

a new predication for armed conflict? (-1, Flamebait)

RonenKauffman (533207) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066905)

what happens when countries with M$ systems are not able to interoperate with OSS systems? As we watch corporations continue to manipulate governments and essentially own the future of citizens through no-bid contracts and the like, will it eventually come to a head? You think you have a senator - what you have is a corporate liason.

Re:a new predication for armed conflict? (1)

RonenKauffman (533207) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066955)

i resent the flamebait tag. this is a real opinion, shared by many people worldwide and especially in western countries where lobbyists have more power than voters, by a LONG shot. and if M$ isn 't one of the biggest lobbyists in DC I will eat my hat

Great work Mr President (1)

subzero_ice (624972) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066906)

What many people don't realize is that newly developing countries have an advantage and that is they can learn from the experiences of other developed countries. So incase of India the president has seen that two heads are better than one and when you let people use their free will the outcome is certainly better. In short Linux is better than windows because people customize it according to their needs unlike windows, which wants its customers customized.

This is what he said.. (4, Informative)

heytal (173090) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066914)

The most unfortunate thing is that India still seems to believe in proprietary solutions. Further spread of IT which is influencing the daily life of individuals would have a devastating effect on the lives of society due to any small shift in the business practice involving these proprietory solutions. It is precisely for these reasons open source software need to be built which would be cost effective for the entire society. In India, open source code software will have to come and stay in a big way for the benefit of our billion people.

Pebbles (3, Insightful)

brettlbecker (596407) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066918)

The leader of the world's most populous democratic (as far as that term goes, anyway) nation advocates the development (and thus the use) of open-source software. Completely excellent.

With this announcement following the Munich decision, it will be interesting to see if any further cities/states begin to take a closer look at open-source alternatives. If these increasingly influential parties have some success with this decision, then I would think that this could be quite the spur to others who are getting fed up with being strangluated by the ever-more restrictive licensing and lowest-common-denominator quality of many proprietary products.

Are we perhaps watching the pebble begin to roll?

B

Re:Pebbles (1)

jcdr (178250) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067016)

More than that, I feel that any cities/states talking about new deal with Microsoft will automaticly be suspect of corruption or at least getting so low price that it might become not profitable for Microsoft.

Optimistic (2, Interesting)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066925)

He may not be a pure politician but theres a lot of political optimism in the numbers he's looking for regarding growth. Indian IT will not keep growing the at the rate it is now for much longer, I'n not saying it wont grow, just not at the rate they are projecting. It strikes me as very naive and shortsighted for a leader to put so many economic eggs in one basket by baking on IT to prop up the economy. Its not oil or Gold, customers can get it somewhere else.

Using him as an example (1, Flamebait)

truthsearch (249536) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066937)

I'm always looking for examples to present to my boss to switch to OSS. My company is mostly in the US. Unfortunately even the recommendation of a country's president isn't enough to persuade them to even look at OSS. While I see lots of news of other countries actively switching to Microsoft's alternatives, the change is still extremely slow in the US. I think even when the rest of the world is mostly on OSS the US will be the most stubborn in letting it become the majority. But it'll take world pressure (the global market) to get a truely major shift to OSS in the US.

Now if President Bush recommended OSS in a speech in the US it would only solidify Microsoft's dominance.

equivalent to MIT? (1)

asv108 (141455) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066951)

famous Indian Institute of Information Technology (india's foremost academic institution equivalent to MIT)

Not that I care to defend MIT, but how is this university equivalent to MIT? I saw the 60 minutes by Leslie "kiss ass" Stahl a few months ago. They way they measured its competitiveness is by the acceptance rate of an exam that high school students take, which any student can take in hopes of passing. I'm sure its a fantastic university, but there is no way it can have the quality of applicants seen at an MIT or Caltech, where high achieving students from all around the world make up a significant percentage of the applicant pool and where slackers like me or even excellent students don't even bother applying unless they have a stellar academic record.

If the US administered a test that anyone could take to see if they could get in to MIT, Caltech, etc, then a comparison might be fair based on acceptance rates.

makes sense (3, Insightful)

ramzak2k (596734) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066956)

For a country like india to invest in open source. They have the IT manpower, a huge indegenous market with enough demand to absorb anything that is created even if they dont prove successful oversees where microsoft is already a dominant player. I dont know what Gates discussed with the President of India about security, it sure dint go too well.

Also, it should be noted that the president of india is not directly elected by the people unlike united states & does not carry that much of a power. I would like to hear something like this from the prime minister of India - which will not happen because industry lobbyists are effective where there is a need for money to run in elections.

IIT, IIIT and I2IT (4, Informative)

rmathew (3745) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066957)

To be noted is that he made the speech (look for the "Think Different" section) at the famous Indian Institute of Information Technology (India's foremost academic institution equivalent to MIT).

RTFA!

He made the speech at the International Institute of Information Technology (I2IT) not at an Indian Institute of Information Technology (IIIT).

By no stretch of the imagination are any of these India's foremost academic institutions. The submitter perhaps meant one of the Indian Institute of Technologies (IIT) here...

I don't trust India. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066963)

[csmonitor.com]
Expose on Indian fascism. They may not be Muslim fanatics, but they are religious fanatics.

India should abandon nuclear weapons and ICBMs.
India should stop tolerating pograms against minorities.
India should address their grievous repression
of "lower castes".
India should allow a referendum in Kashmir,
as specified by the UN.

Maybe if they addressed these, we could take
Indian policy seriously.

Re:I don't trust India. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066991)

So, Mr. Ballmer.... why didn't you just use your real name? Or, does "steveball" give you away??

Obligatory Nelson Comment.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066971)

<nelson>HA! HA!</nelson>

Eh.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6066981)

So do you like curry too?

BTW: Arn't these Indians now fundemnetalist racist hindus? I think they don't even like gay ppl there. They had a mass lyncing just friday (And they want LINUX?! What about Alan Cox, what would they do to him... )

CalTech (2, Funny)

sxltrex (198448) | more than 10 years ago | (#6066998)

To be noted is that he made the speech (look for the "Think Different" section) at the famous Indian Institute of Information Technology (India's foremost academic institution equivalent to MIT).


Huh. And I always thought India's foremost academic institution was CalTech--Calcutta Technical Institute!

:-)

Great News (5, Interesting)

wahgnube (557787) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067000)

I was just reading a book written by the Indian president, Igniting Minds and came to realize how forward thinking and intellectually "fresh" (childlike.. curious, don't take stuff for granted, asking extremely basic questions...) this great man really is. This is great news, in the sense that there are people at "higher levels" who have foresight in science/technology. I hope it sets a precedent for other countries as well. In a side note, the IIIT is not a premier institution, no where near the league of the institutions equivalent of MIT here.

Whoa....... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6067006)

"What should be noted about him is that he is not a politician, but a scientist and an independent thinker foremost." "

Whoa. Electing a thinker. What a bizarre concept.

Those whacky Indians. Let's rain some "Freedom" down on their asses.

not the govt stand (1)

patanish (653932) | more than 10 years ago | (#6067021)

Few days back after Gates visit to India, the indian IT minister announced that the govt of India is not going the OSS way....its strange to hear this president's quote today.
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