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hey (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071354)

Tell that to IBM? That deathstar seems to be giving people more problems than those 3 combined.

Re:hey (3, Funny)

subzero_ice (624972) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071392)

When you call IBM they send your HDD over to Hitachi. So I think Hitachi is basically recalling the deathstars.

Re:hey (1)

qortra (591818) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071464)

Not the problematic ones. According to the post, this only deals with harddrives that have 40gb platters. The real problematic deskstar drives (GXP75,GXP60) had smaller platters (15 gb, 20 gb respectively i think).

Re:hey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071511)

gb? What is a gb? Or do you mean GB?

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LEAVE IBM ALONE (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071509)

Because of all your bitching about one or two stupid models of harddrives, one of the best hdd producers in the market had to jump ship and stop - the only ones providing innovation and an interesting future gone and now the market goes stagnant. Just stop already, they're already dead, leave them alone.

1st hax0r 1st1st1st1st bahahah (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071356)

OH yeah.

no comments and /.ed already (5, Funny)

jonfromspace (179394) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071358)

Or maybe they were using said HD.

Re:no comments and /.ed already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071444)

This is not funny! This is obivous, stupid people!

Re:no comments and /.ed already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071646)

what do people always post "no comments an /.ed already? does it ever occur to u guys that maybe people are reading the article and not posting comments on it?

bitches (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071363)

third post

*sigh* (3, Informative)

Dumb Nig (676922) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071365)

'Tis the problem with faster and bigger drives.
I mean, a one year waranty nowadays, It's a joke.

Now I'm off to back up my data because my drive will probably fail soon.

ack.. slashdotted already... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071366)

eom..

DEAR GOD (5, Funny)

randomdef (663725) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071370)

WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE PORN? all those hours i spent....er...downloading...

Re:DEAR GOD (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071580)

Hmmmm.... All caps, 'think of the porn', hours spent "downloading"?

Tyler, is that you?

Slashdoted? (4, Informative)

www.microsoft.com (671608) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071371)

Major brand hard drive vendors recall defective products produced in China

Jimmy Hsu, Taipei; Wen-Yu Lang, DigiTimes.com [Tuesday 27 May 2003]

Three major brand hard drive vendors - Seagate Technology, Maxtor and Hitachi Global Storage Technologies - have started recalling some of their 40GB and 80GB products sold in Taiwan due to similar defects identified in the products, Taiwanese channel distributors said.

About 12,000-15,000 defective hard drives are estimated to have entered Taiwan. It is unclear whether the same groups of products, with an estimated defect rate of 10%, have also been marketed in other parts of the world, sources said.

Local distributors said they began to see soaring return rates on the hard drives since late April. Most of the returned drives reportedly suffered from bad sectors or problems being formatted, and were found to have come from the same sources in China.

Among the top four hard drive vendors worldwide, Western Digital is the only one unaffected by the incident, as the company does not have products manufactured in China, sources said.

It is suspected that high defect rate was caused by the inexperience of certain manufacturers in China as they were transitioning to new production processes, sources said.

Local agents declined to confirm the report. While Maxtor agent Xander International denied seeing an unusual defect rate, Seagate agents Synnex Technology International and Taiwan Aries stressed that customers would be provided with complete warranty services if they were sold defective products. Comments from Hitachi were unavailable.

YOU ARE A DIRTY WHORE (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071495)

Thanks for the post, whore.

MOD up microsoft.com? bad karma. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071532)

Honestly, is this slashdot or have the moderators all gone bonkers?

so... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071374)

now i know why my 80gig maxtor drive died a slow and painful death...
doesn't help me though, only 1 year warranty :/

Re:so... (0, Offtopic)

randomdef (663725) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071394)

do you live in taiwan or are you just trying to get some attention?

Re:so... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071446)

i don't live in taiwan, but i have a nice, dead 80gig maxtor drive that i would bitchslap you with if you were around...
and yeah, obviously i'm seeking attention by posting anonymously...

Re:so... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071412)

Pardon my ignorance, does a recall not include out of warranty products? Somebody explain please.

I've gone through 5 Maxtors (4, Interesting)

ArchieBunker (132337) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071498)

After drive number 4 crapped out in a month I realized it wasn't worth $7 to send the bad one back in exchange for a "new" bad drive. Still on my 3 year warranty from Nov of 2000. Drive number 3 was even a sealed retail kit which tested bad out of the box. I always run diags on new drives because they can't be trusted anymore.

Re:I've gone through 5 Maxtors (1)

ncc74656 (45571) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071574)

After going through 3 5.1GB Maxtors in as many months a few years ago, I've avoided Maxtor like the plague. There was one occasion since then where I needed a drive Right Now and all that was in stock was a 20GB Maxtor. That went tango-uniform in a month or two; the Seagate that replaced it is still running AFAIK. (The 5.1GB Western Digital that replaced the three dead Maxtors is also still going.)

Re:I've gone through 5 Maxtors (4, Interesting)

jovlinger (55075) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071645)

Disk diagnostics?

Recommend some good ones, appart from the ones that can be run automatically from fdisk (badblocks...?), please.

I have an old 20G drive that was losing data in an older system. I'm looking for some stress test to figure out whether it was the MB/Chipset or the drive.

MOD PARENT UP... Disk Diagnostic Tools (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071673)

Please mod parent up. I've also been looking for diagnostic tools to stress test drives. My 120 GB Maxtor is dying and I want to test the replacement.

New HD production paradigm? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071376)

1) Make defective hard drives.
2) Issue recall.
3) ???
4) Profit!!!

Re:New HD production paradigm? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071406)

Good luck finding a candy flavored platter!

Re:New HD production paradigm? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071449)

In soviet russia, the platters defect

Re:New HD production paradigm? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071655)

that was the lamest in soviet russia joke so far...

This in the front page? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071388)

In related news Microsoft realased a security fix for Windows, more expected to come.

/.ed? Dunno, but here it is (0, Redundant)

X-wes (629917) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071391)

Three major brand hard drive vendors - Seagate Technology, Maxtor and Hitachi Global Storage Technologies - have started recalling some of their 40GB and 80GB products sold in Taiwan due to similar defects identified in the products, Taiwanese channel distributors said.

About 12,000-15,000 defective hard drives are estimated to have entered Taiwan. It is unclear whether the same groups of products, with an estimated defect rate of 10%, have also been marketed in other parts of the world, sources said.

Local distributors said they began to see soaring return rates on the hard drives since late April. Most of the returned drives reportedly suffered from bad sectors or problems being formatted, and were found to have come from the same sources in China.

Among the top four hard drive vendors worldwide, Western Digital is the only one unaffected by the incident, as the company does not have products manufactured in China, sources said.

It is suspected that high defect rate was caused by the inexperience of certain manufacturers in China as they were transitioning to new production processes, sources said.

Local agents declined to confirm the report. While Maxtor agent Xander International denied seeing an unusual defect rate, Seagate agents Synnex Technology International and Taiwan Aries stressed that customers would be provided with complete warranty services if they were sold defective products. Comments from Hitachi were unavailable.

NICE TRY, WHORE. THIS CORNER IS TAKEN. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071514)

See above.

Seagate refutes this (5, Interesting)

bluegreenone (526698) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071396)

The Register actually had an article on this in which Seagate denied this story. [theregister.co.uk] It does seem odd that 3 manufacturers would be having the same problem.

Glad it's only 3 (2, Funny)

siskbc (598067) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071505)

Well, it seems that WD escaped trouble this time! Glad I've got a coupla WD drives in my box.

Wait - where's that smoke coming from? Aw, fuck.

Make that 4 hard drive manufacturers.

Re:Glad it's only 3 (1)

wwwillem (253720) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071656)

Make that 4 hard drive manufacturers.

Look at the First Post. I thought we all already agreed that IBM should be at the top of that list. At least I think so after my IBM 80GB disk died after 9 months. So that doesn't make 4, it's definitely 5 manufacturers.....

Makes perfect sense... (5, Insightful)

sterno (16320) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071633)

In all likelyhood, all three of those drive companies are buying their platters from the same vendor. They may all take those drives and put them together separately, but it's not unusualy for competing vendors to source parts from the same company.

Just as I suspected (5, Insightful)

Michael's a Jerk! (668185) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071398)

The warrenties being lowered was a sign quality as dropping. Data densitites are so huge these these days. The question of Drive reliability [slashdot.org] has been asked before. It's good reading.

Re:Just as I suspected (5, Insightful)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071436)

What's worse though is with this quick "progress" you can't buy those more rugged 10/20 GB drives any more that seem to last forever...

Yeah progress!

Tom

Re:Just as I suspected (5, Interesting)

wwwillem (253720) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071609)

you can't buy those more rugged 10/20 GB drives any more

After spending last weekend trying to salvage stuff from my 9 month old 80GB IBM drive that went into coma, I can only 800% agree with you.... But if you (and I) think that ruggedness is more important than performance or "buck per giga", maybe we better look at SCSI drives. I've couple of those Fujitsu 4GB drives around that could function as a boat anchor. Real engineering stuff.

On the other hand, I'm very afraid some /.-ers will quickly point out that today's SCSI drives are as much crap as the IDE ones :-(. But it's an avenue worth exploring....

Re:Just as I suspected (1)

deadsaijinx* (637410) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071492)

the lowered warranties are not a sign of dropped quality. It's foolish to think that. My big Western Digital hasn't seen so much as one problem, and I don't expect it to for many years

Segate denies claim.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071399)

Article from "The Register" in the UK:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/30897.ht ml

Seagate today damned as "inaccurate" a report that the company has begun taking dodgy 40GB and 80GB hard drives off Taiwanese distributors' shelves - a move alleged to be taking place by local channel sources.

The report, published by DigiTimes yesterday, alleges that 12,000-15,000 defective drives, produced in mainland China, have been shipped to Taiwan with an unknown number shipping to other locations around the world.

However, a Seagate spokesman said there was no substance to the claims. The manufacturer isn't recalling 40GB and 80GB hard drives - or any other for that matter.

"It's ridiculous to claim that all the four major hard drive vendors have been hit by the same problem," he said.

In fact, only three of the four - Seagate, Maxtor and Hitachi Global Storage - were alleged to have been hit. The fourth, Western Digital, was said to be unaffected by the problem since it doesn't manufacture drives on mainland China - its manufacturing facilities are located in Malaysia and Thailand.

Actually, we're not sure Maxtor does either. The company is in the process of building a hard drive plant in Suzhou, but it's not expected to begin production until the second half of 2004. The company currently manufactures hard drives in Singapore.

According to DigiTimes local distributors claim that hard drive return rates have soared since the end of April. "Most of the returned drives reportedly suffered from bad sectors or problems being formatted, and were found to have come from the same sources in China," said the report.

Maxtor and Hitachi representatives were unavailable for comment at press time. ®

Don't do that!! (0)

MrP- (45616) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071400)

The 3 major makers should have been listed in the title, or at least at the beginning of the article.

Major HD Maker - Check
40 GB Platters - Check

I almost had a heart attack!

Luckily mines not one of the 3.. but now that i've said this, watch my drive crash soon. Damn you /.! =(

HA! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071504)

1. Make defective HD
2. Sell defective HD
3. Recall defective HD
4.????
5. Profit!

Limited effects.... (5, Informative)

oiuyt (128308) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071402)

Only affects drives from a single source in Mainland China that were sent to Taiwan. May affect drives that were marketed elsewhere, but worries about YOUR drive being about to go up in smoke are, for the most part, unfounded.

Re:Limited effects.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071448)

I lost 3 * 80GB drives all two weeks ago. Now i only have a
720GB RAID setup instead of the 960 I wanted.
Manufacture date Jan 2003.

China, SARS, sick drives (1)

alphadingo (78607) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071450)

Hmmm... could this be a coincidence? Maybe the workers are sneezing on the platters.

Re:Limited effects.... WRONG! (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071468)

but worries about YOUR drive being about to go up in smoke are, for the most part, unfounded.

Worries about recently purchased drives are completely founded unless and until we have a list of the affected serial numbers.

SCO Gruop Gets Invovled (0, Funny)

linuxislandsucks (461335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071403)

SCO Group claiming ownership of hd patents sues all users who had defective drives..

Re:SCO Gruop Gets Invovled (1)

SonicRED (15265) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071454)

For your sake it's a good thing they don't have a patent on misspelling words.

I may not have much time... (1)

WeblionX (675030) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071407)

Does anyone know if it's just a specific set of drives? I'm curious because I have one. I guess I better start backing up my things...

goes like this (5, Informative)

djupedal (584558) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071477)

Looks like drives (3 manufs. listed) manufactured in the last 8 weeks, with country of origin as China.

If your drive/computer was made before March 2003, my guess is you aren't on the list to worry. Certainly anything from before 2003 isn't part of this discussion. Most drives from the last 8 weeks are still in the distribution channel, and just starting to surface, so again, if you bought yours even as little as a month ago, you are mostly likely clear. Also, they tend to go to the OEM's first, so raw drives would be a bit lower on the worry list, me thinks.

...as he takes comfort in only buying WD, once again :)

Western Digital is Safe... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071408)

So I guess I'm sitting pretty with all with my Western Digital Drives.

western digital (1)

rigelstar (243170) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071409)

I have had problems with two 80gig wd drives and have read the same from several others. Strange that they were not involved in the recall..

Topical? (3, Insightful)

moehoward (668736) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071413)

Hmmmmm. 12,000 - 15,000 drives sold in Taiwan. They have a 10% failure rate.

I sincerely question the Slashdot-newsworthiness of this.

I guess I am surprised that 3 major manufacturers use the same source. Seems weird, but I guess not too uncommon in manufacturing. But seems like a critical component to outsource to China.

There was more SCO news that just came out in the last hour and it regards Linus. How did this story make it and that not? We don't have nearly enough SCO-lawsuit news these days.

Re: ITS A WARNING! (1)

JVert (578547) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071569)

Your missing the point, without trying to cause a panic /. is trying to warn those of us that can read between the lines, that SAR's is now infecting hardware components!

Re:Topical? (5, Funny)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071571)

I sincerely question the Slashdot-newsworthiness of this.

Hi, I am a member of the slashdot welcome team. You must be new here.

Welcome!

Text of the article.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071421)

Looks like it's slashdotted with less than 10 comments. Assuming this gets worse:
Three major brand hard drive vendors - Seagate Technology, Maxtor and Hitachi Global Storage Technologies - have started recalling some of their 40GB and 80GB products sold in Taiwan due to similar defects identified in the products, Taiwanese channel distributors said.

About 12,000-15,000 defective hard drives are estimated to have entered Taiwan. It is unclear whether the same groups of products, with an estimated defect rate of 10%, have also been marketed in other parts of the world, sources said.

Local distributors said they began to see soaring return rates on the hard drives since late April. Most of the returned drives reportedly suffered from bad sectors or problems being formatted, and were found to have come from the same sources in China.

Among the top four hard drive vendors worldwide, Western Digital is the only one unaffected by the incident, as the company does not have products manufactured in China, sources said.

It is suspected that high defect rate was caused by the inexperience of certain manufacturers in China as they were transitioning to new production processes, sources said.

Local agents declined to confirm the report. While Maxtor agent Xander International denied seeing an unusual defect rate, Seagate agents Synnex Technology International and Taiwan Aries stressed that customers would be provided with complete warranty services if they were sold defective products. Comments from Hitachi were unavailable.


So until further notice, this may be confined to drives sold in Taiwan.

(Posted anonymously 'cuz I don't need the karma.)

That's why I buy Samsung (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071422)

Cheaper, longer warranty, cooler, faster...how can you go wrong? Go Samsung!

Price collusion anyone? (4, Insightful)

bergeron76 (176351) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071423)

Does anyone else think this seems to be a little fishy?

I sure hope that one of the part distributors' factories doesn't suddenly explode out on some tiny unheard of little island in Asia or anything.
[ referring to the great memory price spike back in the mid-late 90's ]

Just imagine what the price of hard disks would skyrocket up to. It kind of makes you wonder where the storage/profit ratio begins to slope off for the manufacturer...

now what (3, Interesting)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071425)

OK, I read the article and have a new Maxtor that seems to fit the parameters. It works OK now, but this is of concern, particularly since they recently dropped the warranty period from 3 years to 1 year. What option do I have? Is there really a recall in progress, or is it just that there should be?

what do you think? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071620)

what do you think would be the wise thing to do?

holy crap (0)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071427)

they better pay me for my lost pr0n... i had one of those drives give out about 2 months ago.. it kept losing data, so I finally said screw it. Hope I still have the receipt around...

So who's left? (2, Interesting)

wulfhound (614369) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071428)

Having just lost a bunch of time (although fortunately little valuable data) when one of my IBM DeathStars died, I went out and bought Maxtors 'cause they seemed to be the choice for reliability. So what make are we all supposed to buy now? Cheap hard drives all of a sudden aren't so cheap when you have to buy two of them and a RAID controller to get an acceptable level of reliability...

grrr (4, Insightful)

deadsaijinx* (637410) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071651)

try buying either Western Digital. Or keep buying Maxtor, or even IBM. Seriously, if you people would RTFA, then you would notice that the problems only affect about 10% of the drives that shipped from a plant in china to taiwan. The IBM thing, that was just one set of drives, their new ones kick ass. Maxtor, not my favorite, but this isn't a sign of bad drives from them. Mishaps happen, always have, always will. Now stop freaking and RTFA

Looks like I got lucky with a Seagate (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071433)

gig. No problems he0x0000007A: KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

Maxtor drives (5, Funny)

Psykechan (255694) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071434)

I've got a 40GB Maxtor in this system but I haven't had any probl

Re:Maxtor drives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071507)

well, I have (had) a 40GB Maxtor, and it crashed a week ago.
How ro I know if this drive is subject to the recall?

From China? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071440)

Obviously, those drives are suffering from SARS.

Re:From China? (1)

deadsaijinx* (637410) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071617)

"My son, our people have SARS, with it's 98% survival rate. You must find a cure for SARS, or only 98% of us will live!" -Southpark

Hard copies of everything (4, Funny)

L. VeGas (580015) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071462)

That's why I print out copies of everything once my drive is over half full. For video, I print each frame individually. For music, I print out the lyrics and sheet music for each song. I haven't quite figured out what to do about games though. Every time I play one, I have a whole different batch of screenshots to print.

Oh well, I'm sure the inkjet manufacturers will figure something out.

hmm... (-1, Troll)

Hanji (626246) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071479)

Coincidentally enough, a few articles down on my front page is an article about Apple coming out on top for hardware reliability...

MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

(Then again, I guess you do pay for what you get.)

Recalls Not True (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071482)

The Inquirer has an article saying that this is just a big hoax.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9704

Made in Malaysia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071487)

I've had 3 drives fail in the past 2 years: 2 IBM and 1 WD. After trying to locate a dignosis utility, I kept seeing the common theme quality problems and Made in Malaysia.

Spotted in Nicaragua too (1)

wolfgangoertl (242500) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071489)

A new Maxtor 40 GB drive I bought here about two months ago has a 50 MB area of bad sectors at around 150 MB into the drive. Might be one of them...

I wish they would recall my drives! (0, Flamebait)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071499)

I have a pair of WD 20gigs and they suck.
A WD205AA and a WD205BA and both are big piles of panda shit.

They clonk on and off all the time, lose data often, bad sectors from hell, they just are trash.

I'd buy SCO products before I'd ever buy another WD product....

I must have one of those drives (1)

spectrum (92555) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071500)

Because when I load the page, I keep getting "Operation timed out".

Yeah.. well.. someone had to say it. :)

I have replaced 2 80 gig drives since January (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071502)

I replaced the 10gig drive that came with my Dell last January with a 80gig one from M and had it fail. The one that I got under warranty failed on my in early April. Since then I have been using my laptop while getting through a project and just started recovering stuff onto my newly arrived warranty replacement while wondering if there was a way to find out if there were problems with bigger drives. Talk about timing.

I called Seagate support on this same issue (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071508)

And they told me that it wasn't a hardware defect, but a problem with the Linux IDE drivers.

No problems on Windows. They confirmed that they had not had a single report of this problem on NT4, 2000, XP, or any of the 9X operating systems.

Shame that Slashdot couldn't do a little research and get the real story here.

Maxtor... (2, Interesting)

neostorm (462848) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071525)

Just the 40 & 80 GB drives? I just grabbed one of those funky 100+20GB drives from Maxtor a month or so ago, and it took a huge crap on me two weeks into using it. Now their tech-support won't reply to my Emails and I can't seem to reach them by phone in a reasonable amount of time.

Avoid everything Maxtor, not just 40/80 GB ones. Maybe their other drives are better and you've had good experiences, but their tech support is insulting and therefore doesn't deserve the business.

buy Western Digital Special Edition (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6071535)

Buy Western Digital Special Edition, that way you get 3 year warranty. Simple really. I refuse to buy any of the hard drives that only give you 1 year warranty, it's rediculous. (you too should boycott them!)

I got one of these maybe (1)

jdhaig (676950) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071576)

I got one of these I think, it has slowly stopped working over the last 18months, it broke totally about 2 months ago, it wouldn't format, and I managed to loose a Linux and a FAT32 partition from the end of the disk about 2 months after partitioning it.

Will Seagate be offering recalls here also?

This is not true. (5, Interesting)

LloydSeve (672423) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071589)

Seagate has officially issued a press release
saying this they have not issued ANY recall
regarding drives shipped to Taiwan.

Although Maxtor and Hitachi were not available
for comment, Seagate has "damned" this report
innacurate.
Here is the link to the report of Seagate
denying ANY HDD Recalls.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/30897.html

In other news.. (4, Funny)

CptChipJew (301983) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071599)

it turns out these problems with the drives were occuring because the S.M.A.R.T. technology turned out to be S.T.U.P.I.D.

China??? How About Singapore??? (1)

NetFu (155538) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071601)

I don't know about anybody else, but I've got 3 failed (i.e. DEAD) Maxtor ATA-133 drives (40gb, 60gb, & 80gb) sitting in my desk waiting to become paperweights. All of them were made in Singapore and they all failed in the past year (2 in the past 5 months).

I finally gave up on Maxtor and went with a 120gb ATA-100 Seagate drive which has worked flawlessly for 3 months.

Crossing my fingers...

Possible Problems... (1)

James Littiebrant (622596) | more than 10 years ago | (#6071636)

This lowers my trust in WD even further. I was considering getting the new 180 gig but will it have the same problems? The 40 and 80 gigs were the best selling HDDs, I am not saying no one bought the 60 gigs but the fact that it took this long to discover defects then what about my HDDs I have already? Or what about the wonderful 120s? The new 180s and 250s are going to be great, but who is going to be willing to take a risk with possible defects... I don't want to wake up one day to find that all my data is gone! Perhaps this is the the straw that broke the camal's back to the point were I am going to buy IBM hard drives...
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