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Extra Scenes in TTT Extended Edition DVD

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the more-ents dept.

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gdr writes "USA Today have an article about the extra scenes that will be in The Two Towers Extended Edition. More ent scenes so it'll be worth watching for the special effects alone. Sadly it looks like there will be no extra gollum scenes. I can't say I'm as excited about this one as the FotR EE."

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Alex and the McCluskeys rule (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181846)

Alex and the McCluskeys did the soundtrack for LOTR:TTT. I hope you can download them off iTMS.

first post my homos! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181848)

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Re:first post my homos! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181858)

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FIRST POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181855)

WOW!!!!

Im excited (3, Interesting)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181857)

the first box set with added sceans was great....and the cut sceans actualy made tyhe story clearer. I hear that there is an extra 40 min in TTT.

Re:Im excited (4, Funny)

johnstein (602156) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181983)

if there are more ents, that's enough for me. I still remember the first time I read TTT... family was driving to a nearby lake. The roads to get there wound through rather dense forest area so as I was reading about the ent's charge to isengard, I could look out the window and almost imagine them.

Since then that's what I think about when I walk in the woods... strange, but oh well. I am the same person who thinks of the opening song from fraggle rock every time I use a screwdriver.

da-da-da dadum da-da-da dadum da-da-da dadum da-da-da dudum

what was that old guy's name? his dog was sprocket... how did I go from massive walking trees to fraggles?

-John

Re:Im excited (1)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182102)

I don't think he had a name. he talked about some other dude all the time though.

Re:Im excited (1)

trevry (225903) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182159)

Uncle travellin' Matt

Re:Im excited (1)

johnstein (602156) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182204)

uncle travelling matt was gobo's uncle.

hmm. i am sure a quick internet search would answer the question, but that's like cheating when you are talking about fond youthful memories..

-John

Re:Im excited (1)

travdaddy (527149) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182217)

Doc is that old guy's name.

Mark the extra scenes! (0)

slimey_limey (655670) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181862)

I wish that they would mark all the extra scenes... perhaps with an icon in the corner, at least for the letterbox-on-4:3 version. There's all that wasted space, and you don't know what you got for your ~$30!

Seamless branching would be nice (2, Interesting)

ProfBooty (172603) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182141)

It would not be difficult to load a seperate table of contents which would allow one to watch the theatrical version and extended cut off the same set of dvds.

I cant think of a technical reason why this isn't possible, unless there are different versions of the same scene instead of different length cuts of the same scene.

A 5th disc with the original cut wouldnt be hard to add either. I wonder if a superbit version will ever come out?

rtfb (0, Troll)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181866)

It's just a few extra scenes, and you probably wouldn't recognize them if the movie was played linearly. If you want a more detailed version with no scenes cut, RTFB.

Re:rtfb (1)

kormoc (122955) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181946)

WTF dude? Everyone knows about the books, and they loved the movie, so why can't they enjoy the extra scenes without someone acting so damn smart and acting like the books are something most people don't know about?

And second, the extra scenes do make a difference, I watched the ee of the fotr and it just added a lot to the movie. It's just a extra 30% more movie...

Gah...

Ariel Sharon is a murdering war criminal (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181981)

Again today the terrorist state of Israel has killed 4 more brave Hamas freedom fighters. When will the world wake up and push the Jewish people into the sea? Only then will there be real peace in the Middle East

Re:Ariel Sharon is a murdering war criminal (-1, Offtopic)

garrulous (653996) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182069)

Brave Hamas fighters? Interesting bent. What you mean is "that bunch of assholes so jacked up on testosterone and glory that they couldn't possibly survive a transition into a peaceful state and who are perfectly willing to wreck any peace efforts since they contravene their supposed righteousness, and their families and people be damned" right?

Re:Ariel Sharon is a murdering war criminal (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182145)

No shit the last thing those fucks want is peace. Peace gives them no cause to die for. Peace would be a real bummer for Hamas, how would they brainwash the poor children into thinking they should be blowing themselves up then? It would wreak their leading industry, ie home bommb building.

Re:Ariel Sharon is a murdering war criminal (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182163)

wrong..........gutless Israel murderers hiding behind high tech US killing machines. My F**king tax $ is buying those Apache attack helicopters we GIVE to the Jewish terrorists to kill innocent Arabs and Palestinians...really sicken me.

Re:rtfb (1)

haedesch (247543) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182128)

How could you possibly miss out +- 50 minutes of new footage?

Extra scenes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181867)

Extra scenes are just a promotion item. Most of the time, they are completely worthless and obviously don't contribute to the movie. Every now and then, however, they do add some insight. But, it most definately is not a reason to buy a special edition DVD. -- Pr0n... FREE! Click Here! [porn-free.org]

Re:Extra scenes (5, Interesting)

hhnerkopfabbeisser (645832) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181978)

This may apply to most movies, but not to TLOTR.

The LOTR-movies are cut down because a 4 hour-beast is not acceptable for a movie that has to make a lot of money.

Most poeple I know, at least the geeks and especially those who read the book, found the longer version of the fellowship a _lot_ better.

Re:Extra scenes (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182085)

What planet are you from? The extended edition of the FOTR was like a new film. I was amazed at how much could be done with an extra 30 minutes, and now we're getting 45. I guess if you've never read the books (that is, you don't know the story), then New Line is the one telling the story and whatever they don't include the first time seems optional. But if Tolkien told you the story, then the extras are, at the very least, an attempted payback for Jackson's needless meddling with the story. And they make a huge contribution.

o? (2, Interesting)

ed.han (444783) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182215)

you've clearly never compared the extended FOTR to the theatrical release version. the extended edition was a vastly superior film and also helps explain why in TT gollum keeps whimpering about the rope.

btw: am i the only one who had to put the captions on to understand what galadriel is saying during her temptation scene?

ed

waiting to buy? (5, Interesting)

Traderdot (677425) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181869)

I wonder how many people are holding off on buying the dvds until all three movies are out? I know I'd like to own the dvds but I'm waiting for the super box set of the extended versions of the entire trilogy to come out. same with the matrix trilogy. wonder if this waiting is affecting their sales figures.

Re:waiting to buy? (1)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181924)

I am waiting for the box set of the matrix but not LOTR. I just wait for the 4 disk sets.

Re:waiting to buy? (1)

emdean091876 (320115) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181997)

I have no spine. I own both copied of FotR, and I'll end up own both copies of TTT, and eventually RotK.

Life's too short to wait for Super UBer Box Sets.

Obligitory AOLer comment (1)

DamienMcKenna (181101) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182097)

Me too!

Seriously though, I'll enjoy being able to show my forthcoming children (first due in the Fall) the different edits of the movie, how they all fit together, contrasts between them, etc. Kinda like how I'm annoyed they refuse to release the original version of Star Wars as we saw it as children, its all repackaged Ewoks-with-walkie-talkies fluff.

Re:waiting to buy? (1)

ccoder (468480) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182012)

<blockquote>wonder if this waiting is affecting their sales figures</blockquote>

I don't think this is affecting their $500m sales.

Re:waiting to buy? (1)

johnstein (602156) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182175)

My old roommate was a huge peter jackson fan. (meet the feebles, etc) and when FotR came out he said he couldn't wait to get the DVD. I said the same thing you did... that I wanted to wait till the super-duper mega-awesome DVD came out with ALL the extras for all the movies. He told me that PJ (he said all TRUE fans call him that) doesn't do it like that. That he always releases all the goodies at the beginning. That said, I still think I will wait. (especially since they happened to release two versions of FotR.

I suppose I just dont trust anyone.

-John

Re:waiting to buy? (1)

zdislaw (664912) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182223)

Waiting? WTF is waiting? I downloaded the pirated versions of both movies, bought the first edition and special edition DVDs of FOTR and will most likely buy the EE box set when it comes out. And I'm not even a fanboy. No really, I'm not. I mean, I've never even read the Simarillion (or even care if I spelled it right), and I saw neither movie in the theater within the first month of release. I'll be willing to bet that the losers like me make up nicely for the losses from folks who have more self control.

Way too many! (4, Insightful)

WPIDalamar (122110) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181871)


So first I buy the dvd of the fellowship, then I buy the extended version ... then I buy the dvd of the Two Towers, and then I buy the extended version.

And THEN when all 3 are released, I buy the trilogy... and then the special extended version of that!

Man these guys got it good. Maybe I should smarten up and just wait.

You should wait beyond that.... (1)

reverendG (602408) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181960)

For the Ultimate Dragon Tiger Super Edition!

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Re:Way too many! (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182018)

Maybe I should smarten up and just wait.

Many of us are quite smart actually. I know I'm not going to suffer by waiting a year before seeing a movie. So instead of spending $7+/person +snacks for an overall lowsy movie experience, I just wait, and rent/buy the movie (but not until it's down to $10/movie or less)...

Yes, some of us don't like getting raked over the coals... Others seem to think that getting gouged (or, rather, complaining about it time after time) is part of the fun of watch movies.

Re:Way too many! (1)

silas_moeckel (234313) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182191)

Think drive in 5 bucks a head and bring your own snacks for a double feature. 2.50 a head for a movie is acceptable to me at least.

Otherwise netflix or now Walmart is your friend 14 bucks a month for as many movies as you can get through the mail 2 at a time. If your a bit unsavory those 170 buck DVD-R's look more and more appatizing.

Re:Way too many! (4, Informative)

tuffy (10202) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182211)

The first release of the film gets you:
  • The short theatrical cut of the film
  • One disc of shorter extras
The second release of the film gets you:
  • The extended cut of the film
  • Two discs of completely different, longer extras
So, getting both sets (about $40 worth, IIRC) gets you all the extras (3 discs worth) and both cuts of the film. New Line announced this release strategy last year and have stuck to it, so folks shouldn't feel too surprised by it.

I bet (-1)

exspecto (513607) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181873)

Who wants to bet that they include Gollum's acceptance speech?

suckers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181881)

I can't say I'm as excited about this one as the FotR EE.


Maybe you're just starting to feel the burn of getting fleeced over and over...

Just curious... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181894)

Anyone find that extra scene where they teach you how to exercise your Fair Use rights by making a backup copy? I keep looking but I can't find it.

Re:Just curious... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182000)

ROTFLOL!!

For the love of God, rate this +5 funny (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181896)

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TRASH

Ent scenes. (2, Interesting)

Arjuna Theban (143564) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181898)

The ent scenes might have been great in the book, but they were just as entertaining as having my fingernails removed in the movie. It took 10 minutes for a sentence to be spoken, I think it completely ruined the pace of the movie. I exclude the last ent scene from this, of course.

-bm

Re:Ent scenes. (2, Insightful)

orpheus2000 (166384) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182213)

Some would argue that the pace of the movie was too quick to begin with. The book took its time, and this is the movie that detracts the most from the trilogy.

The last ent scence was presented to the reader as a recollection after the fact, as well...

FotR EE? (0, Insightful)

zapp (201236) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181902)

Anyone know this acronym?

Re: FotR EE? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181931)

fellowship of the ring extended edition

Re: FotR EE? (1)

lewp (95638) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181932)

Fellowship of the Ring: Extended Edition?

Re: FotR EE? (1)

ornil (33732) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181934)

Fellowship of the Ring, Extended Edition

Re: FotR EE? (1)

jmays (450770) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181940)

(F)ellowship (o)f (t)he (R)ing (E)xtended (E)dition

Re: FotR EE? (4, Informative)

Uller-RM (65231) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181943)

Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition. A four-disc set they released around Christmas-time last year that added another half hour or so to the movie. Notably so, also -- the scenes not just made the movie clearer, they actually prompted rearranging the shot order in some parts, and having actors speak lines previously said by other actors.

It was actually a nice addition to the movie, although I thought that the original was outstanding as is.

Re: FotR EE? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181950)

Anyone know this acronym?

Yes.

Re: FotR EE? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181951)

Fourty oxygides too Rivendale - Egion Edinburgh.
Et is a special kind of dohnut tha CN eats.

Re: FotR EE? (1)

mesach (191869) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181952)

Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition

Re: FotR EE? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181953)

Fjord of the Rings, European Edition.

Re: FotR EE? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181964)

Extended Edition

Re: FotR EE? (5, Funny)

Vengeance (46019) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181969)

Fellowship of the Ring, Enterprise Edition: Now with additional declarative transaction features and enhanced security.

Ring zero to rule them all...

Re: FotR EE? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182022)

Hmmmmm.

Just in case u had'nt gotten it:

Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition.

I Think.

Re: FotR EE? (5, Funny)

s20451 (410424) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182028)

Fellowship of the Ring: Electrical Engineers It's the one where Frodo and Sam write a Matlab script to simulate destroying the ring, and Gandalf wears dockers and a polo shirt with a stitched Sun Microsystems logo.

Re: FotR EE? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182157)

Fellowship of the Ring, Extended Edition. Really.

Re: FotR EE? (Kaiburr Crystal alert) (1)

Bartacus (40172) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182202)

Even though I knew it was "Fellowship ...", for some reason, Fall of the Republic [fateback.com] was the first title that came to mind.

I'm thinking... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181908)

I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 50...

Re:I'm thinking... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181982)

25

Yes.... (5, Funny)

jhines0042 (184217) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181919)

I am very much looking forward to getting the extended edition of the TT on DVD. After the masterful job done in the extended edition of FotR, I can hardly watch the shorter version.

Of course, I'll have a problem when I get to the RotK extended edition. I only have a 5 disc DVD changer and so I'll have to get up from the couch after 12 hours to switch to the final disk!

Re:Yes.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181975)

and to think my 6 disc dvd player was mocked by my friends! horray for my onkyo D-601 and never have to get up!

Re:Yes.... (3, Insightful)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182155)

I only have a 5 disc DVD changer and so I'll have to get up from the couch after 12 hours to switch to the final disk!
Think of shiny disks as being merely distribution media, not playback media. Play 'em back from your fileserver. Then you have an n disk changer, and you'll never have to get up again, except for the occasional trip to go buy and add another hard disk. (Tip: LVM and EVMS are your friends.)

Must... resist... the... one... ring... (5, Funny)

Zelet (515452) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181921)

It is soooo hard to wait for the trillogy to come out in a single box set special edition. I want each one! Must... wait...

One box set to rule them all, one box set to bind them.

Boycott! (-1)

Seth Finklestein (582901) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181925)

I can't believe that hypocrite Michael Sims is posting an article about DVDs. He's being the greatest hypocrite ever!

From: Michael Sims <jellicle@inch.com>
To: Seth Finklestein <sethf@sethf.com>
Date: 02:25:55 Jan 04 1999
Subject: DVDs

Dear Seth,

I would never buy a DVD or even post an article on Slashdot about DVDs. DVDs are bad. I predict that within ten years, even Joe Sixpack will be watching DRM-free video on his Linux desktop (Windows will be dead by that time).

Sincerely,
Michael

Explain that, you filthy hypocrite bastard-ass!

They don't mention much extra Legolas footage... (4, Interesting)

reverendG (602408) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181927)

Not that I won't be subjected to another 3 months (more, really, considering RotK is coming in Dec) of my girlfriend saying, "Isn't he dreamy?...I love Legolas!...He's so handsome, won't you learn Elvish, honey?"

Really, there wasn't a whole lot missing from the book that I missed in TTT. There was a lot from FotR, but I understood that they had to leave things like Tom Bombadil out for purposes of keeping the length of the movie reasonable.

I am looking forward to seeing more about how Jackson dealt with the strife in Faramir's family, and why he took the path that he did in the movies compared to the books.

If you weren't a *halfling*... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181970)

She wouldn't be longing for something "taller"...

Re:They don't mention much extra Legolas footage.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182046)

No, they had to leave him out for purposes of keeping patrons from self mutilation.

Re:They don't mention much extra Legolas footage.. (5, Funny)

the gnat (153162) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182076)

Not that I won't be subjected to another 3 months (more, really, considering RotK is coming in Dec) of my girlfriend saying, "Isn't he dreamy?...I love Legolas!...He's so handsome, won't you learn Elvish, honey?"

I feel your pain.

When I went to see TTT on the first midnight showing, most of the people in the audience were in their twenties. One of the previews was for "Pirates of the Carribean", and when Orlando Bloom's name came up there were distinct shrieks. When Legolas jumped onto the moving horse, I swear I could feel the estrogen surge. I thought girls were going to start flinging panties at the screen. One woman posted online that when she saw this scene for the first time, "I think I got pregnant."

On the bright side, if you're not entirely joking, it's now officially studly to have learned Elvish, although the thought of bespectacled Tolkein geeks trying to pick up girls by quoting Legolas is more than a little disturbing.

Re:They don't mention much extra Legolas footage.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182137)

If my bitch said something like that to me, I'd slam my dick down her throat.

Re:They don't mention much extra Legolas footage.. (2, Interesting)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182139)

From reading the article (I know, how dare I) it sounds like the added scenes will help those who haven't read the books. I know when my wife saw the extended FotR, things "clicked" a little better...

Screw the Movie... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181939)

Ok, so I'm a book zealot..

The FOTR wasn't bad, it was acceptable for us zealots, but honestly, the storyline departures of the TT was so horendous...

WHO CARES...

Re:Screw the Movie... (1, Offtopic)

Vej (199488) | more than 11 years ago | (#6181990)

What do you think were the most glaring errors, that threw off the movie?

Are there any scenes/cuts that you think could create a cleaner picture of the plot/story?

well, just think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182021)

with all the extra scenes added, maybe now it won't end in the middle of the book!!! I for one wanted to see Frodo get smacked around by the spider lady

Re:well, just think (1)

pilot1 (610480) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182082)

Of course it's still going to end in the middle of the book - it has too!

There isn't nearly enough material in RotK alone to make another movie out of - otherwise PJ would have.

Think about it, what ending would have been better for PJ, everyone thinking Frodo was dead, or the ending from TTT?

Re:Screw the Movie... (1)

pilot1 (610480) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182039)

Horendous? I wouldn't go that far.
They did change some things around, but most of them were nesecessary, in the book to movie adaption.

True, Aragorn dieing (!) and Faramir taking them to Gondor (!!!) were different from the books, and probably not nesesecessary, but we can't do anything about that, can we?

Aragorn is 87 years old? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181984)

wow! that's what some strong elvish ale can do for yah i guess... did't seem to me to be a day over 75!

No more extra scenes of Gollum??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6181996)

... And I was looking so forward to seeing more scenes of Jar Jar Gollum. I've been following his carreer ever since he first starred in Star Wars: Phantom Menace. He has made a point of stealing any movie he appears in. If they don't add more scenes of Jar Jar, Me's a thinking I'm gonna die.

More scenes? (4, Interesting)

DrXym (126579) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182029)

I actually thought the cinematic release of TTT could have done with less scenes. All that flashback crap containing Arwen completely dragged down the middle segment. A five minute trim would have made it a better picture.


Now the extended edition does appear to introduce some interesting new stuff, but I wonder if yet more flashbacks concerning Boromir and Faramir is just compounding the error. Enough with the flashbacks!

Just as excited (but I'm hopeless) (4, Interesting)

SnowDog_2112 (23900) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182035)

I felt that TTT was cut more harshly than FOTR was ... things didn't flow as smoothly, things were more jarring.

I'm hoping that some of that extra 43 minutes is invested into smoothing out some of those rough edges and making it flow just a little better.

But who am I kidding? I'll buy it anyway, and I'll buy the regular cut, and I'll buy both editions of ROTK, and if (when) they come out with some uber-box-set with all three movies, a copy of the books, a lifesize inflatable Balrog, and new commentary by Christopher Tolkien (heh, yeah right!) I'll buy that too.

At least they're telling us up front about the different editions, so buyers can make the right choices.

Let's just hope PJ doesn't release digitally altered (kindler, gentler) versions of the movies in twenty years :).

Re:Just as excited (but I'm hopeless) (5, Insightful)

avelth (39410) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182219)

I don't hear any mention of them fixing the atrocious plot changes, so I'm really hopeless.

The Ents are tricked into attacking?

Faramir is a prick?

What happened here!?!

Ents!!! (1)

DamienMcKenna (181101) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182036)

I thought the Ents were wonderful, more of them will make it worthwhile as far as I'm concerned.

Article author never read Tolkein (4, Informative)

EricWright (16803) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182037)

Apparently, the author was surprised to learn that in the Jackson version of LotR, Aragorn is 87 years old. As anyone who has read the books knows, Aragorn is Dunedan (sp?), a race of men who once lived for 500+ years, but in the days of LotR, live a relatively short 180-200 years.

Good! (5, Insightful)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182038)

So, they put the Ent-draught back in, eh? Now _that's_ good news. Merry and Pippin becoming unusually large for hobbits was only of any significance when they returned to the Shire and cleared out Saruman and his shambolic mob. Which suggests that the Scouring of the Shire will be left in the Return of the King - at least in the extended DVD, if not the cinema release.

I doubt there'll be any good excuse for the monstrous character assassination they committed on Faramir, though.

Re:Good! (4, Informative)

joeytsai (49613) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182220)

You're correct, the Scouring of the Shire won't happen in Return of the King. In the Fellowship DVD, when Frodo looks into Galadriel's mirror, and they see the Shire, I think I remember Peter Jackson mentioning that that was the most we'd see of that. That does make sense, though - I was a bit surprised when I read that there were still several more chapters after the ring had been destroyed. (Sorry if that was a spoiler).

To those who are wondering . . . (2, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182051)

. . . what the fuck an "ent" is, it's apparently the name of those big-ass trees.

You're Only Feeding the RIAA (0, Flamebait)

goldspider (445116) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182054)

Just remember folks, for every version of these LotR movies you buy, that's more money to the RIAA.

So are you MPAA-boycotters out there gonna stick to your guns and not buy ANY of these DVDs? Or are you going to set your principles aside and buy these movies.

I'm betting on the latter.

OOPS! I mean MPAA! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182078)

Sorry about that one folks!

Re:You're Only Feeding the RIAA (3, Interesting)

suavivity (672245) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182186)

i have no problem paying for something that is WORTH paying for. TTT wasn't one 10 minute action scene in the middle of 3 hours worth of fluff. besides, they're only gonna make more good fantasy movies like this if they make money on them.

Re:You're Only Feeding the RIAA (4, Insightful)

tid242 (540756) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182225)

"So are you MPAA-boycotters out there gonna stick to your guns and not buy ANY of these DVDs? Or are you going to set your principles aside and buy these movies."

One of the advantages of living in a house with 4 other guys, either someone will buy it, or their girlfriend/mom/dad/brother/grandmother/aunt/etc/et c certainly will, either way i still get to see it :) ...

in any event, there's always the option of buying it used, while it could be argued that buying used DVDs supports the MPAA via creating a secondary market demand for their products, i personally think that it's a happy medium between being devoid of art in life and supporting one of the world's most evil empires. Also it should be noted that someone who buys a DVD for $25 and sells it to a disc-whorehouse for $5 probably isn't considerably driven by the market demand for his/her used product...

And (as a sort of sales pitch), EVERYONE who sells a movie or CD isn't necessarily affiliated with the MPAA or RIAA, as an example i am certainly purchasing (brand new) the 'Ohgr' CD (Nivek Ogre and Mark Walk) being released by spitfire records [spitfirerecords.com] on July 1, and they are not affiliated with the RIAA (according to something i read a while back)... So don't let your boycotts hurt the innocents (like all of those idiots who said they'd boycott Heineken beer because it is German, after the fallout of an Iraq war resolution...)

Sorry, i'm mumbling again...

-tid242

ents (4, Interesting)

tid242 (540756) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182063)

"More ent scenes so it'll be worth watching for the special effects alone. Sadly it looks like there will be no extra gollum scenes. I can't say I'm as excited about this one as the FotR EE."

i for one would have to disagree with this opinion, i've seen enough of Gollum and am bordering on thinking of him as a more refined (albeit less nauseating) Jar Jar. There were/are several facets of TTT which bothered me, but despite the obviously flawed story-line deviations i would have to say the top two on my list are: 1) the character degredation of Farimir, and 2) the inability of TTT to portray Ents as being very ancient and very wise beyond the comprehension of the fast-paced lives of the more mortal (i know 'mortal' is a qualitative measurement, but you know what i mean by 'more mortal') races.

Perhaps some of the cut scenes will allay some of these grumblings and restore to the Ents what i have always seen as their greatest virtue.

-tid242

Re:ents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182091)

More Ents?

How can I lose!

Re:ents (1)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182210)

I agree. I thought FotR's deviations were excusable and made sense. TTT's deviations were just bewildering and I didn't see what the pragmatic reasons for them were. (Well, except for one line: "We're not supposed to be here!")

I'm gonna direct a movie! (5, Funny)

NeB_Zero (645301) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182086)

With the recent advent of everyone turning anything in print into a movie (LotR, Spiderman, The Hulk, Daredevil, etc...) in order to appeal to a more illiterate society, and to advertise more products. I have decided to turn FreeBSD Unleashed (2nd Edition) [amazon.com] into a feature film. It will feature bullet-time animation, and Beastie travelling through 3-dimensional telnet and ssh sessions to successfully configure his beowulf community.

I will be sure not to use any phrases such as Unix, Linux, SCO, or FSF so that I am not sued.

Then, I will release a DVD edition, then an extended edition with an interview with some programmers on how to configure you first box.



All trademarks are owned by their respective copyright holders, please don't sue me.
FreeBSD Unleashed: The Movie patent pending.

Ents suck (0)

jj_johny (626460) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182093)

I got the extended edition of fellowship. In it Peter Jackson goes on about how he doesn't want you to look at a shot and be distracted by if its CG, an actor or if other visual effects. Looking at fellowship there was not much that was distracting but TTT was loaded with visually distracting junk.

Ents - Grade: F - completely unbelievable and dragged the story Gollum - Grade: B+ - pretty believable and well integrated most of the time .....the rest - Grade: A - very good and seamless

please! FOTR scenes were bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182111)

i saw both version of the fellowship of the ring. and with the exception of the different "round table" scene i was glad they cut out all those scenes. they were pointless and the added nothing but tolkeins bad poetry to a brilliant version of the movie. after reading the books and seeing the movie i wish i had just watched the movie. less garbage in movie.

More ents...good (5, Interesting)

Snodgrass (446409) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182133)

My opinion after seeing it in the theater was that we were short-changed on the Ents. They play a very important role in the book (aren't they actually the ones that win Helm's deep? Sneak in at night and rip the orc armies to bits?)

While it's not heavy on details it mentions the Ent's draught and Merry and Pippin getting taller, which I thought would have been worth putting in the movie. Glad to see it will be there now.

I think I'm actually looking more forward to the TTT Special Edition than I was FotR because I've seen how much extra goodness was added to FotR.

Re:More ents...good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6182174)

Not really. More like the orcs in flight disappear into a forest, and none ever leave it.

Sort of incidental to the story, although I *was* looking forward to seeing it.

kings live for centuries (3, Funny)

peter303 (12292) | more than 11 years ago | (#6182171)

The original race of men in Toklein's universe live for centuries like the Biblical patriarchs. Their lifespans declined as the original high civilization declined. Also the line of kings has immortal Elvish ancestors, which confers additional longevity.
Aragon's 87 years pales compared to his betrothed Arwen's many centuries. She is practically cradle-robbing. And her father, Agent Smith, no I mean Elrond, is an immortal Elf and many thousands of years old. Because Elrond and Arwen have some human blood, they can choose to become human, age, and die.
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