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Sen Hatch Would Like To Destroy Filetraders' PCs

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the don'tcha-wish-this-sounded-like-a-joke dept.

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CBackSlash writes "Sen. Hatch is interested in technology to remotely destroy computers. But it would only be used if you're downloading copyrighted material, and only the copyright owner should be able to wield this awesome power, since having the feds do it would be against the law. Here is the AP story from Yahoo!."

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Later in the discussion... (5, Funny)

Sanity (1431) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227459)

...Sen Hatch went on to propose that cars be designed so that they explode when they exceed the speed limit - or "pirate drive" as he preferred to call it.

Re:Later in the discussion... (5, Funny)

rkz (667993) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227476)

rkz is interested in technology to remotely destroy Sen Hatch.

Re:Later in the discussion... (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227563)

I believe they're called sniper rifles. They work remotely, but only fairly close.

Oh, wait, someone's knocking on my door...

*no carrier*

Re:Later in the discussion... (5, Funny)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227614)


This is ridiculous. Wilful destruction of property is AGAINST THE LAW! Let's look at this another way. He's effectively saying that if you download copyrighted material, someone can be sent by the company that owns it to break both your legs.

Given the sheer number of fakes on P2P software, you could download something claiming to be the new Metallica album, and find it to be an MP3 of someone saying "YOU DOPEY FUCK" a million times. But as far as the record company is concerned, "Oh, he downloaded Metallica's album, nuke him!" and you're left with a pile of smouldering rubble.

Hatch is a cunt.

Re:Later in the discussion... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227511)

BTW, "Sen" = "Senator" in this writeup... it's not his first name. (Orrin is his first name.)

Why would he do that? (4, Funny)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227462)

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah

Oh, I see why now. Perhaps he received some donations from other upset copyright holders [sco.com] .

Re:Why would he do that? (2, Funny)

wmspringer (569211) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227489)

You emphasised the wrong part...

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah

Re:Why would he do that? (1)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227523)

No I didn't, SCO is based in Utah, so it would make sense for him to support his home state.

Re:Why would he do that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227525)

Yes, because as we all know, Hollywood loves Republicans.

It wouldn't happen if it was (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227535)

Sen. Orrin Hatch, C-Utah

Vote Communist. [cpusa.org]

Re:Why would he do that? (0)

brsmith4 (567390) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227557)

DMCA, signed into law by a D. Just remember that.

Re:Why would he do that? (0, Troll)

kableh (155146) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227598)

Signed into law with an anonymous vote by a Republican controlled congress. Not that it matters, because it was a silent majority.

Re:Why would he do that? (5, Insightful)

slashdoter (151641) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227580)

You still emphasised the wrong part.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah

Don't fool yourself and think it's only the republicans.

Re:Why would he do that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227607)

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah

Oh, I see why now. Perhaps he received some donations from other upset copyright holders. [sco.com]

It seems funny, but the Hatch family actually has a lot of involvement in SCO. Orrin's son is even the head SCO lawyer leading their suit against IBM.

Well, that's nice (1)

einTier (33752) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227463)

Just how out of touch can congress get with the average American?

They might be out of touch with us... (3, Insightful)

sockit2me9000 (589601) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227589)

but they are in lockstep with the corporations. This is what happens when people are elected with money that has strings attatched, as all modern campaign contributions seem to do. When McKinley was president, it was considered corruption. Now it's called fundraising. Think I'm reactionary? Look at Martha Stewart she profitted $48,000. That's fricken chump change. Now look at Kenneth Laye. He and his cronies raped how many millions of people's bank accounts. Who just got indicted? Martha. Who contributed to the GOP? Enron. A bit off topic, perhaps, but it's all part of a much larger problem.

Remember America (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227469)

This is what happens in a capitalist society. This november give the communist party another shot.

They aren't all like Kim Jong. Just look at the good its done for China and Vietnam. Communists support Linux and OSS, they fight for the citizens rights without taking them away, and almost everybody is guaranteed a job. Now with capitalism you're a slave with your rights constantly under threat.

Please think before you vote.

Vote Communist. [cpusa.org]

Re:Remember America (2, Funny)

Gherald (682277) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227546)

Right you are. Instead of allowing capitalists _and_ the govenment to screw us over, lets put them both together so they are not so high-maintenance.

Re:Remember America (1)

Ebony Run (682288) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227605)

Meh, the software will cause their hard-drive read heads to bash the side of the case until they go hopelessly out of alignment, and then with run "The RIAA loves you" ads on the screen until you run down to the local record store, and purchase at least 40 records. -- *Richard Fairthorne is a geek [is-a-geek.com]

Think before you post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227619)

You do realize that the pillar of communism, China, has a free market don't you? That they have less crime, less homeless, and less social problems (drugs, illegitimate kids, etc.) because of the great work of the communist party? If you want to spew your capitalist propaganda do it some place else puppet slave.

Re:Remember America (1)

Strudelkugel (594414) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227577)

Communists support Linux and OSS

Ah-Haa! Linux is a Communist Plot! Must be part of Torvald's plan to take over Finland!

Hatch has finally lost it (5, Interesting)

dtolton (162216) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227470)

That is just pure lunacy. Hatch has said some pretty crazy
things over the years, but this has to top the list.

I've been a supporter of Hatch for several years, even helping
with the election effort on several occasions. This takes the
cake though, it's time to get fresher blood into that office.

If you want to call his office and complain (as I will):
DC Office: 202.224.5251
SLC Office: 801.524.4380

here is his website:

Please call and voice your extreme antagonism to these types of
statements. Although the other Senators called him down, he
needs to know that we hear these statements and are against them
in the extreme.

I just got off the phone with the Salt Lake Office, and they had
no idea he had made statements of this nature. In fact she was
quite taken back to hear of them. Please call and let them know
how you feel about this. If they know their voters are against
this type of behavior, they will change it.

Re:Hatch has finally lost it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227538)

I was about to flame you for posting some crazy looking ip adds:

DC Office: 202.224.5251 SLC Office: 801.524.4380

btw (1)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227556)

Hasn't hatch generally been one of the 'good guys' in this whole DRM mess? IIRC he opposed things like DRM and was generally in support of allowing innovation to flourish rather then stifling it.

But maybe I'm remembering wrong.

You have to ask yourself: what's scarier? (1)

MerryGoByeBye (447358) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227472)

That in this day and age, the fool was still voted into office last time around?

- OR -

That he will likely be voted in again?

You decide.

Well considering the state has (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227560)

been overrun by the Mormon Cult, I wouldn't count on logical decisions begin made by citizens of Utah.

Vote Communist. [cpusa.org]

Re:You have to ask yourself: what's scarier? (1)

miu (626917) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227601)

That he will likely be voted in again?

Nothing suceeds like inertia. Except maybe entropy.

Simple Solution (1)

dirkdidit (550955) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227474)

Just have him sit at one of these computers downloading this "copyrighted" material, and remotely destroy it using powerful electrical charges. Piece of cake. No more whack job senator. ;)

They know nothing (4, Insightful)

xombo (628858) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227481)

These people are no smarter than a little kid saying, "I'm a hacker, I can make your computer blow up using the internet." They need to be asking the technology experts solutions to these matters, like Apple's music store. Of course, KaZaA still needs to be eliminated since competition between one legal source of music and an illegial one is kind of silly. However, I can tell these represenatives know little to nothing about technology the way they talk about using these unethical and impractical tactics against music piracy, if they do this, they are no better than who they are fighting.

Preserve Kazaa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227539)

"Of course, KaZaA still needs to be eliminated since competition between one legal source of music and an illegial one is kind of silly"

Preserve Kazaa. It will always offer the music that the RIAA and Steve Jobs can't be bothered to sell: old out-of-print music and obscure concert recordings.

Re:Preserve Kazaa (1)

xombo (628858) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227575)

The only problem is that if we keep KaZaA up, it will still be used by kids to steal the latest and greatest music, no matter what you say KaZaA might be used legitimatly for, it will be mainly used for stealing music, it is a sad fact, and that is the bottom line.

Re:They know nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227609)

if they do this, they are no better than who they are fighting.

Not like the war on terrorism, of course.

Next.... (5, Funny)

Spydr (90990) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227483)

will he be making guns that shoot the robbers when they are pointed at police officers?

watch out! (5, Funny)

Occam's Hammer (463213) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227484)

Iâ(TM)m guessing that the next big computer worm will plant a Celine Dion song on your computer and then send an âanonymous tipâ(TM) to the RIAA.

Finally, something less reasonable... (5, Funny)

Ebony Run (682288) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227487)

Finally something less reasonable than self-destructing DVD's.

huh? (1)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227593)

What's wrong with the self destructing DVD? If you don't want it, don't buy it. If you do want it buy it and then burn a copy using DeCSS.

I can't understand (2, Insightful)

hawkbug (94280) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227488)

I can't believe this crap is still going on - That would be like when Hatch is moving into a new house, and it turns out his cable is active (from the last owner) and since he didn't pay for new service, and is "stealing" it until he gets hooked up under his name, that AT&T should be able to blow up his TV. This guy is a moron, and I hope he dies a slow, painful death for damage he is doing to this country's already-screwed up laws.

Re:I can't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227608)

This guy is a moron, and I hope he dies a slow, painful death for damage he is doing to this country's already-screwed up laws.

Really? Name one thing he has done to 'damage' our laws.

Woops ... (1)

RubberDuckie (53329) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227491)

We destroyed the wrong computer. Better luck next time.

Foxtrot always says it best... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227618)


Yahooo!!!!! I can smell the Lawsuits (1)

Pepebuho (167300) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227492)

Lame Copyrighter: No sir, sorry sir, I thought the file was violating my copyright, I did not know that was the only recording of your wedding.

Let me make up by giving you a one year free subscription to Weddings and Everything....

Neat. (2, Informative)

ruiner13 (527499) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227494)

He probably has nothing to worry about since I think that old man is probably too old to even know how to use a computer. Why is it always the old, technology phobic senators who seem to come up with these "great" ideas? I think it is going overboard destroying a thousand dollar+ machine for, say, pirating a $15 CD. Even in the "eye for an eye" mentality, that is going too far. When is he due for reelection?

Hmm.. (1)

zapfie (560589) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227498)

So, we can use this on companies when we find they have violated GPL, right? Since GPL works off copyright? I see some vigilante style action comin' on..

Re:Hmm.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227548)





Here was my posting of the story: (5, Informative)

efatapo (567889) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227502)

"Washington Post [washingtonpost.com] reports that the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Orrin Hatch [senate.gov] from Utah, said Tuesday he favors developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers [washingtonpost.com] of people who illegally download music from the Internet. A notably quote: "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize [the seriousness of their actions]". Hatch has a personal interest, since I'm sure his music [hatchmusic.com] is pirated on a regular basis. ;)"

Just thought people might appreciate other links and such...guess I should've submitted it a couple minutes earlier....oh well :)

What's up w/ the Hatches? (4, Informative)

drgroove (631550) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227503)

First Hatch's son is one of the lawyers pursuing the SCO case, now Orrin is talking smack about filesharing...

Will someone please investigation campaign contributions made to Orrin? I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut that Microsoft has made significant contributions to Mr. Hatch's past campaigns.

Re:What's up w/ the Hatches? (2, Informative)

KrispyKringle (672903) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227617)

According to OpenSecrets.org [opensecrets.org] , the number 4 largest industry contributer, as a whole, to Sen. Hatch's campaign consists of TV, Movie, and Music producers, trailing Lawers and Law Firms (#1), Pharmaceuticals and Health Products (#2)--who themselves have strong interests in strong IP protections, and Insurance (#3).

Walt Disney donated $17,000 alone (the corporation, not the man). Interestingly enough, Hatch received $20,500 fron Novell, but I don't see any from SCO.

Just some food for thought.

So what happens (1)

cmason32 (636063) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227504)

..when the RIAA blows my computer up because they thought I was violating copyright but it turned out to be a work in the public domain? Do I get a check or just a "oops, sorry."

OOps, I did it again! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227567)

Oops I did it again, I blew up your PC Oh Baby, baby Don't care if your innocent.

What a dumbass (1)

cc_pirate (82470) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227505)

So can I plant bombs in DWI drivers cars?

Driving while intoxicated laws should not be broken!


And when the RIAA screws up? (1)

kmahan (80459) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227506)

When mistakes are made and my computer gets destroyed because the "RIAA FUCKED UP" and misidentified my downloads (see previous slashdot stories) I wonder what kind of recourse I get. Will Hatch pay the damages? He'll probably exempt the corporations. Luckily as a copyright holder myself I guess I'll be able to go destroy other people's computers. That'll be fun.

In related news... (1, Troll)

oscast (653817) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227507)

In related news, they said that the software is only compatible with Windows.

We Mac users never get any of the popular software...

This sounds like a great idea if..... (4, Insightful)

sweetooth (21075) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227508)

the next time I see one of my legislators driving around massivly exceeding the speed limit and failing to use thier turn signals I get to follow them home and destroy thier vehicle. To paraphrase Hatch in my context: This may be the only way you can teach somebody about traffic laws. and "There's no excuse for anyone violating traffic laws." The only reason I draw this parrallel is I live close to and grew up near the state capital and this is something that irritates me beyond belief.

The stupidity of our elected officials never ceases to amaze me.

Larger implications (4, Insightful)

TechLawyer (182030) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227513)

This is not just about file-sharing. It's about the ability of the government to remotely wipe out your computer, and creating the mindset that people whose computers are wiped out must be bad and therefore unworthy of notice or protection. In Ashcroft's America, how long before those of us who visit websites critical of the current regime will have our computers fried as a result?

lmao (1)

towaz (445789) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227514)

So if I rip my own music that I payed for and get my system crashed,
I am just considered "collateral damage".

should not happen anytime soon, but For them to be even thinking about it is disturbing.

Goes to show what a bunch of crackpots these people are.

Glad i'm european.

So much for computers in the government (4, Funny)

NetDanzr (619387) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227515)

If governmental workers are like me, they are bored and use Kazaa at work. I'm wondering whether there will be enough computers left to control the ballisting missile defense by the time Hatch is through with destroying computers.

Dear Slashdot Readers (-1, Flamebait)

saden1 (581102) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227516)

The state of Utah needs to be boycotted. It is the Mississippi of the Midwest (no offense to Mississippians, you probably aren't into the freaky sex stuff they are into).

Join me for million /. march this summer. Among other things we will be burning Utahâ(TM)s state flag, SCOX headquarters, and last but not lease Sen. Hatches district offices. The firework begins July 3rd.

Huh? (1)

wmspringer (569211) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227522)

> only the copyright owner should be able to wield this awesome power, since having the feds do it would be against the law

And having the RIAA do it, wouldn't?

Meh (3, Interesting)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227524)

I guess the RIAA's stratage is as follows:
1) destroy people's computers.
2) make them hate and fear you.
3) ???
4) profit.

1) Download firewall

2) Install firewall

3) Reap vast profit of pirated material

I mean really, how hard is it to make sure your computer is up to date with patches and has a good firewall installed. Preferably with an OpenBSD/Linux(with the bare minimum installed) box physically in between your home LAN and the internet.

Not that I'm in favor of destroying people's computers (I assume this means things like reformatting people's hard drives), that's just asinine. But I do think it's OK for record companies to spoof P2P networks and try to disrupt them.

Scary (4, Interesting)

stinky wizzleteats (552063) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227527)

If you read his comments in context, the truth of what he said becomes obvious.

Cyberphobia among the old guard, as represented by people in Hatch's generation, has given way to overt, unbridled hatred of technology and its advocates. He views internet users as a group of miscreants who must be taught a lesson and his suggestions of remote computer destruction as a perfectly valid means of holding due process hostage to force us to solve the content industry's problems.

I am aghast.

Two words: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227528)

frickin' Mormons

Better yet..... (1)

Nagatzhul (158676) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227532)

That would be great. But first we need to have technology that automatically executes politicians when they propose stupid and unconstitutional laws. They would, of course, get two warnings, and on the third violation they would be summarily executed.

This is already possible - Grubbnix! (5, Interesting)

beee (98582) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227534)

Does anyone recall the code for Grubbnix? It was a quick hack in the early to mid 90s, but it worked quite well. Call it a cross-over between a bootloader and an OS, I suppose.

Anyways, the interesting part of Grubbnix was that it had a lot of capability and use when it came to flashing your BIOS (most major motherboard companies today still use a Grubbnix variant with their flashing utilities). I still remember one variant called Hucker (or something like that, maybe Huckey) that was spread around on disks to unsuspecting users. When you loaded it and left it running, it opened up your system enough so that someone via TCP/IP could execute commands, one of which was to completely shitfuck your BIOS, and sometimes even managed to cause damage to the CPU/motherboard by modifying threshold settings in the BIOS (depending on your model #).

It used to be passed out to "enemies" at HackerCons, who would then take it home, load it, and end up with a fucked PC.

Perhaps Senator Hatch needs to give the Cult of the Dead Cow an e-mail and see if they still have the source around somewhere ;-)

"BlowPC" virus anyone? (1)

Pepebuho (167300) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227537)

How soon until someone makes a virus to blow up PCs? The virus will run, replicate and torch your PC while you look at a Barney cartoon :)

makes sense (2, Funny)

Frac (27516) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227540)

that's because Senator Hatch is the BASTARD CHILD OF THE ANTI-CHRIST!!!

Proof [com.com] :

SCO has made no secret in recent months that it hired high-profile attorney David Boies to spearhead its case against IBM, but the company's legal representation in Utah courts is also noteworthy. The company retained Brent O. Hatch and Mark F. James of the law firm Hatch, James & Dodge. Hatch is the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a representative for SCO confirmed Monday.

The whole family works for the devil!!!!

[/tongue in cheek]

What happens when... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227544)

-someone other than the copyright holders gets ahold of this technology? (with microsoft security, and the prevalence of computer worms/trojans/virii, this could be bad.. or good for PC manufacturers)

-we design systems that don't permit this technology to work?

-this senator's own computer is destroyed by a disgruntled fileswapper?

No excuse (5, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227549)

"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws," Hatch said.

And there is an excuse for vandalizing a PC?

WTF? (2, Funny)

Monkey-Man2000 (603495) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227551)

since having the feds do it would be against the law.

But it's all right for copyright-holders to do it? Where does the DMCA say copyright-holders can blow up PCs? This is insane!

Pssst. (2, Funny)

BrookHarty (9119) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227553)

The senator, a composer who earned $18,000 last year in song writing royalties

Want some mp3s of his work? ;)
Joke, dont nuke my computer! Senator Hatch!

Sounds good to me. (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227559)

Sounds like a great idea to me.

Then when the FIRST time a computer is destroyed due to mistaken identity sue the bastards into oblivion and solve this problem once and for all. Then go after the government for allowing it to happen in the first place.

No, I'm not joking, I'm SICK AND TIRED of the ' entertainment media'.

What about due process? (4, Insightful)

FearUncertaintyDoubt (578295) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227561)

It seems to me that this is a clear violation of due process. Not only does the government not have the right to destroy your property without due process of law, it is even more egregious of an abuse for the govermnent to grant such a power to private parties -- to act independently of law enforcement to destroy other private persons' property. And by the sound of it, he is advocating copyright holders being able to do this without any kind of warrant or oversight at all. Hey, I think that's my stuff, so I kill your PC.

Vigilante justice is outlawed in every other form -- this is little more than authorizing digital lynch mobs.

How? (1)

zackeller (653801) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227564)

My question is how the hell do they plan on "destroying" someone's computer? Come over to your house and kick it in? The article made it sound like it would happen over the internet, which I can't imagine a way of doing.

Just > /dev/null (4, Insightful)

jmv (93421) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227565)

I think these silly idea are just meant to direct people's attention away from the real dangerous (DMCA-like) laws. They have no intention to pass this law, just to make the others look "not that bad". That why I say that stpuid things like that *are* safe to ignore because I doubt that even the *AA would really want that passed (e.g. they don't want their whole office shut down in case an accident happens).

Coming soon! (4, Funny)

DreadSpoon (653424) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227568)

Sneakers that destitch themselves when you jaywalk.

Cars whose tires go flat when you speed.

Oxygen tanks that cease providing oxygen when diving in restricted areas.

Planes whose wings fall off when flying over restricted space.

Trenchcoats that burst into flame when used to conceal theft of 3 pens from the office.

Buildings which systematically disassemble themselves when accountants working for the company owning the building fudge figures.

Planets that implode when governments on them begin passing fucking retarded laws.

In related news... (1)

jared_hanson (514797) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227574)

SCO has just divulged that they have included code in UNIX System V for years that will allow remote destruction of any computer it runs on. Unfortunately for most users, this is among said code that has been copied into the Linux kernel. Tommorrow, SCO will be destroying all AIX systems immediately and activating a trigger which will destroy all Linux systems by 5:00 PM EST this Friday, June 20. Anyone who licenses the rights to UNIX from SCO by this deadline will have the trigger disabled. May God be with those who don't.

And I'd Like Some Way to Destroy Senator Hatch... (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227576)

And I'd like some way to destroy Senator Hatch the next time he does something that really really really offends me.

I don't see either of us getting what we want any time soon.

Declaration of War (1)

eericson (103272) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227582)

Okay, what strikes me most about this comment is two things:

1) Even the RIAA folks said... "Uhhh.... we don't want to destroy anyones computer"

2) The first time this happens to anyone in the black hat community it'll be taken as a declaration of war by the RIAA. I think even those idiots would realize the repercussions from trashing peoples systems would far outweight any deterrent it may provide.

Children (4, Insightful)

Phroggy (441) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227583)

When a child does something wrong, you spank them. Negative reinforcement discourages them from doing it again. But why spank them? Because otherwise, there would be no natural consequences that the child can immediately see - the child can't see how refusing to share his/her toys is a bad thing, so you artificially make it a bad thing by spanking them.

Destroying someone's PC as a punishment for copyright violations is like spanking them: artificially making it a bad thing.

Adults spank their children. Adults don't spank other adults. Corporations shouldn't be spanking anybody.

Even if passed this law would be overturned (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227585)

If there was a law that allowed this kind of behavior, it would certainly violate the equal protection clause of the constitution. You can't just let some people break the law (like laws against hacking and destruction of property) and not let others.

Acutally... (2, Funny)

HaeMaker (221642) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227588)

What we really need is a technology that removes a congressman from office once he says anything unconstitutional in public.

No need for any due process crap, just "bu-bye".

If only old people support IP, it's a good thing! (1)

Thinkit3 (671998) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227591)

As they die off, we'll finally remove all "intellectual property" laws!

What a co-inky-dink! (1)

Nathdot (465087) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227592)

Sen. Hatch is interested in technology to remotely destroy computers

Which is a little bit funny when you think about it.

Just how many people at one time or other (and come on now, be honest) haven't been interested in a technology to remotely destroy Sen. Hatch.

I know I'm not the only one.

Against the law... (4, Interesting)

Daniel_Staal (609844) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227595)

Of course, the reason it is illegal for the Feds to do it is to prevent abuses. So we give it to a *less* regulated group. Greeaat.

Actually though, as long as they are still liable for any damages they inflict this will be fun. Let's see, they (will/would have) just destroyed a $1000 computer, with $10000 (and if you can't figure out a way to back that figure up you need help) of the user's own data to delete a $0.99 song. Can we spin this?

Of course, it is better to stop this now, before the circus...

And as usual... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227596)

...the Yanks are thinking only in their own tiny ego-bound box that is the USA.


There are other countries that use computers, and some of them are pretty good at it too. Even Microstuft learned to cater for other country's date formats, so that makes Billy G smarter than the average USA senator! (And while I'm at it - when are you idiots going to use metric?)

If any Yank blows up my computer, can I call it an act of war?


Sounds good to me. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227602)

I'm caught downloading illegal warez, facing however many thousands of dollars for litigation, and so they destroy the evidence.

How much more convenient can you get!? :-D

Liability Suits (1)

Beatnick (560520) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227604)

And we've seen several times where they were wrong
in their searches for copyrighted material. If this
even passed such that the recording industry had this power,
expect lots of liability suits where they "destroyed"

Bad bad legislation. Sounds like knee-jerk reaction
instead of using the old noggin.

Disposable DDoS Zombies (1)

cosyne (324176) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227606)

1. Hack into people's windows boxes.
2. DDoS annoying politician of your choice.
3. Download some copyrighted material.
4. Victim's machine magically self destructs, taking any evidence with it.
5. Rinse.
6. Repeat.

This is why I'll be running for office. I may not be the best politician in the world, but I could do better than Hatch with both thumbs up my ass.

He also wants.... (0)

agent dero (680753) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227610)

He also wants all those meanies in Iraq to stop being so bad, and that Coyote finally catches Roadrunner (after which they talk their differences out like adults)
He also requests that we start an initiative to assist pigs in flight, along with one to use liquid nitrogen not only to make cool ice cream [slashdot.org] but to freeze hell as well.

What an idiot. (1)

Duncan3 (10537) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227611)

Considering a PC now costs as much at Walmart as a speeding ticket costs.... and people aren't exactly driving the speed limit...

Even if you could blow up the computer remotely, they would just go buy another and fire up the P2P again. So he's an idiot, not because he's wrong to protect artists (the RIAA is evil, not the artists folks!), but because it wouldn't stop anyone.

Hatch's other suggestion today (1)

Frac (27516) | more than 10 years ago | (#6227616)

Senator Hatch later today also proposed candy bars that can be remotely triggered to mix with hidden cyanide.

"There's no excuse for anyone stealing," Hatch said. "Unless we kill those pesky little kids who believe stealing is fun, there's no other solution around it."

Let's say all hello to mr Hatch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6227622)

start=1; finish=1000;
while [ $start -le $finish ]
echo "Hello, Mr Hatch !"
start=`expr $start + 1`
wget http://www.senate.gov/~hatch 2>/dev/null
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