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Apple Marketing Hypes New PowerMacs

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the feeding-frenzy dept.

Desktops (Apple) 1022

Wacky_Wookie was only one of many who wrote in with a mention of Apple's "leak" of specifications for a new line of PowerMacs to be dubbed "G5", apparently running the new PowerPC 970 CPUs. No offense, but anyone who thinks it was a mistake or leak doesn't understand marketing. :) Update by J : In case those linked sites get taken down too, try MacNN.

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another road apple... (-1, Troll)

goats_in_boats (655991) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252312)

...like from a horse. Probably still stinks... but i do want one of the 1u servers!

Yay! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252313)

Yay for Apple! Now we might finally see some machines that not only kick the PCs butt performance-wise, but annihilate it. Stylish and functional... ewww!

Re:Yay! (5, Funny)

Kurt Russell (627436) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252342)

Yay for Apple! Now we might finally see some machines that not only kick the PCs butt performance-wise, but annihilate it. Stylish and functional

You need to get out more.

Re:Yay! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252474)

Oh, shut up and go bang Goldie Hawn.

Mockup G5 Pictures (4, Funny)

williwilli (639147) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252490)

check out these pictures [sejus.com]

and download some music or something while you are there! ;)

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Re:Mockup G5 Pictures (1)

switched4OSX (668686) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252545)

Take a close look at the picture- it's just a photoshopped G4 PowerMac. Mirror optical drive doors have been changed to grey, and the "handles" at the top and bottom have been cropped out.

Re:Mockup G5 Pictures (1)

switched4OSX (668686) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252565)

Oops, I guess you already realize that. I failed to read your subject line. My fault.

Dear Apple (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252314)

Dear Apple,

I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

with much gayness,

Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.

Well then... (4, Insightful)

Uart (29577) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252315)

I guess it seems that all the speculation was right on the money.

And I still can't afford it...

/college

Hey (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252345)

Are you on crack? It's JUST a Mac... those fuckers screwed me with the Lisa!!!

Re:Well then... (4, Funny)

nattt (568106) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252371)

Actually, the real specs seem slightly better than the rumours indicated. The real killer punch will be if they're cheaper than the current power macs.

Re:Well then... (3, Interesting)

BJZQ8 (644168) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252431)

Apple....CHEAPER? I really, really doubt it. Macophiles have always been willing to pay a premium for the "newest" thing from the Big A. I'd think you'd be lucky to get out of the door for less than $5000 for a fully-loaded G5. I think my old iMac's and newer Microtels will run this school just fine, thank you.

Re:Well then... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252408)

I just payed off my apple loan two days ago. I am doomed to be in debt.

Re:Well then... (2, Funny)

the uNF cola (657200) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252552)

Oh yes you can /student loan :)

Re:Well then... (2, Funny)

leifm (641850) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252561)

Not being able to afford it(apple products) is better than getting it and having to sell it because you are broke as hell. So hey, you are still ahead of me:)

slashdot poll (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252316)

which one of these is simoniker ?

New Mac (5, Interesting)

stanmann (602645) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252322)

The reasons to have your next PC upgrade be a Mac keep increasing, and the only thing that might make the PC platform attractive are the rumors that HP will be releasing an Opteron soon. Personally I can't wait till I can have a 64-bit desktop machine with built in Gigabit.

Re:New Mac (-1, Troll)

IamTheRealMike (537420) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252482)

the only thing that might make the PC platform attractive are the rumors that HP will be releasing an Opteron soon

Hmm? What about stuff like price point, compatability, vendor independance etc etc, ie the stuff you can't simply market away. These are the reasons why businesses and often home users choose the PC platform time and time again.

Oh sure. So the legendary Apple marketing machine will whip up a hyped frenzy in its followers. But other than being in the running again, nothing will have really changed.

Re:New Mac (-1, Insightful)

Quarters (18322) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252553)

The reasons to have your next PC upgrade be a Mac keep increasing,

Really? The last time I checked the local BestBuy still only had 1 shelf of Mac software. The local Circuit City still had 0 shelves of Mac software.

the only thing that might make the PC platform attractive...

would be the wide availability of any type of software a person could be looking for. That level of choice just isn't available with the Mac.

Re:New Mac (2, Interesting)

awtbfb (586638) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252568)


Actually, the G5 and Panther (OS update) are rumored to be 64-bit [macrumors.com] . You might see 64-bit on a Mac first.

Jobs and the RDF (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252323)

These things sound amazing already.. imagine what Steve Jobs, ubercharismatic at the worst of times, is going to do to them. It's a good thing I don't have enough money to buy one!

Macminute took down the specs screenshot (5, Informative)

Surak (18578) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252324)

But you can get it from here [thinksecret.com] .
Also more on the story here [thinksecret.com] .

If the emperor is the emperor, then who is (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252470)

Darth Vader?

It must be Patrick Beaver!

Yes... (2, Interesting)

Ironix (165274) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252325)

I wonder how many people were thinking "Gee, I'd hate to be the guy who made that mistake!"

Well, I'd love to be that guy, as he will probably get a big promotion for generating even more interest into Apple's upcoming event.

Re:Yes... (4, Insightful)

MrZilla (682337) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252367)

I agree.

I'm not a mac fan, and I would have had no clue whatsoever that the G5 was on the way, had it not been for this..

It seems as "leaks" theese days are becomming more and more frequent.. At least the ones that gets people excited.
And why not, it's a great way of getting peoples attention, because everyone wants to see other peoples "misstakes". And if your hear about something secret leaking out of a big company, and then beeing removed a few minutes later, your gonna read about it. And most likley hear about the product in question at the same time.

Also a Dual Processor 2GHz configuration (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252326)

Which the Register failed to mention. I'm thinking my next computer may well be a Mac...

Re:Also a Dual Processor 2GHz configuration (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252344)

...I'm thinking your next partner will be a man, then.

Dear Randy O'Day (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252329)

Dear Father O'Day:

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My analysis of why this is fake. (-1, Interesting)

rebeka thomas (673264) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252335)

OK I can't believe the mac world is going gaga over these specs. The screenshot font, color and layout do NOT match that of anywhere else on the Apple site. Taking a look through the specs is also quite revealing

- 1.6GHz, 1.8GHz or Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5 Processors

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts. Not to mention neither Motorola or IBM have 2GHz chips in their roadmap until 2005. Bzzzt One point impossible

- Up to 1GHz processor bus

1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible

- Up to 8GB of DDR SDRAM

This one is acceptable

- Fast Serial ATA hard drives

This is also possible

- AGP 8X Pro graphics options from NVIDIA or ATI

Almost believable, but for the moment Apple are phasing out the use of NVIDIA cards in their machines. I highly doubt they'll be used. Half a point impossible

- Three USB 2.0 ports

The rest of Apples site would say "3 USB Ports" not "Three". Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible

- One FireWire 800, two FireWire 400 ports

Once again use of the verbal "One" instead of the numeric. Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible

- Bluetooth & AirPort Extreme ready

Likely

- Optical and analog audio in and out

Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible.

In total, that's 4 and a half impossible features out of ten. If you're waiting on this machine, you'll be waiting a LONG time people.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (5, Informative)

customs (236182) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252349)

The was from a graphic directly from store.apple.com on the PowerMac site; not from a little teen's weblog (heh)...the credibility is high, and all of the sites that had posted the information have since removed the graphic per request from apple. macrumors, macnn, appleinsider, mac minute, etc.

the posted specs went far beyond the expectations of...anyone.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252393)

I'll bite.

G5 is a marketing name and not a chip name. They can happily call the PPC 970 anything they want and G5 kind of makes sence.

The PPC 970 requires a bus speed half that of the processor speed hence the 1Ghz bus on the 2Ghz model. That would be achievable using HyperTransport.

And saying something it not real due to their use of the words one and two instead of the numeral ? Please.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

TripleA (232889) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252394)

>> Optical and analog audio in and out

> Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics > machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful > thinking. One more point impossible.

Optical digital audio in/out might describe it better. Optical refers to the medium. Optical I/O is great for people with high quality audio equipment such as Minidisc.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252508)

Optical I/O is great for people with high quality audio equipment such as Minidisc.

Can somebody please explain this to me? Doesn't good old CD audio have greater-than-or-equal quality to any format supported by Minidisc players?

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252397)

For your information, a PC motherboard with similar specifications is available from supermicro [supermicro.com] . All these features are plausible.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

rebeka thomas (673264) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252407)

I don't see a 1GHz bus on that motherboard.

1GHz bus makes sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252472)

IBM's presentation for the 970 (back in October last year) says it'll run up to 1.8 GHz with 900 MHz processor bus.

(Go to their site, search for 970 and look at the 1st link)

Not much of a stretch needed to scale that up to 2 Ghz and a 1000 Mhz bus.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

viking099 (70446) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252411)

"Optical and analog audio in and out

Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible"
Why is this impossible?
There are motherboards with optical audio in and out built in, and you can buy PCI sound cards with optical audio built in for less than $50. I bought a Gamesourround Fortissimo II more than a year ago for less than $40, and it's got optical in and out.
And if they're wanting to create a media creation and/or editing system, then of course they would have optical in/out.

Parent is deluded (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252418)

OK I can't believe the mac world is going gaga over these specs. The screenshot font, color and layout do NOT match that of anywhere else on the Apple site. Taking a look through the specs is also quite revealing

Revealing indeed, but not of what you think.

- 1.6GHz, 1.8GHz or Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5 Processors

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts. Not to mention neither Motorola or IBM have 2GHz chips in their roadmap until 2005. Bzzzt One point impossible


G5 = branding. And IBM have 2.5 GHz chips in their roadmap for 2004 (in the new blades) so 2 GHz in 2003 isn't that odd.

- Up to 1GHz processor bus

1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible


Read the specs of the PPC 970, freely available all over the internet. The bus runs at 1/2 the processor speed, hence 2 GHz is 1GHz bus. Even the 1.8 GHz chips, which are definitely announced by IBM for other products, have 900 MHz buses.

- Up to 8GB of DDR SDRAM

This one is acceptable

- Fast Serial ATA hard drives

This is also possible

- AGP 8X Pro graphics options from NVIDIA or ATI

Almost believable, but for the moment Apple are phasing out the use of NVIDIA cards in their machines. I highly doubt they'll be used. Half a point impossible


They're not "phasing out" anything; at the time they introduced the latest powermacs, ATI simply had better cards available.

- Three USB 2.0 ports

The rest of Apples site would say "3 USB Ports" not "Three". Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible


The current MDD powermacs already have USB 2.0. That the next models should also have it is not surprising in the least.

- One FireWire 800, two FireWire 400 ports

Once again use of the verbal "One" instead of the numeric. Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible


Because FW800 is not backwards compatible. The connector is physically different. They have to stick with 400 for now.

- Bluetooth & AirPort Extreme ready

Likely

- Optical and analog audio in and out

Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible.


This one does puzzle me slightly, but Apple don't consider their machines "graphics machines". Macs are all-purpose. It's no fault of Apple if they are pigeonholed by others as "only for graphics". Also, even if they were "graphics machines," video editing kind of requires sound...

In total, that's 4 and a half impossible features out of ten. If you're waiting on this machine, you'll be waiting a LONG time

I make that 0 impossible features, and one odd one. Come Monday, you will be feeling very silly.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (4, Insightful)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252426)

- Three USB 2.0 ports

The rest of Apples site would say "3 USB Ports" not "Three". Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible


Yeah, except the current G4s have USB 2.0 hardware onboard, [slashdot.org] Apple just restricted it to USB 1.1 operation.

- One FireWire 800, two FireWire 400 ports

Once again use of the verbal "One" instead of the numeric. Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible


Oh, yeah? That's what's shipping in the current G4: 2 FW400, and 1 FW800. Since 800 is rather new, people will be more likely to need more 400 ports for their existing devices-- plus it would be dumb to make someone have to 'waste' an 800 port on a 400 device. For now, 2 of the older standard makes sense.

- Bluetooth & AirPort Extreme ready

Likely


Again, thank you, Captain Obvious-- since this is how current G4s are shipping.

~Philly

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (3, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252467)

Yeah, except the current G4s have USB 2.0 hardware onboard, Apple just restricted it to USB 1.1 operation.

No, according to the USB forum I think you'll find that they restricted it to UBS 2.0 (Full Speed)

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

buserror (115301) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252543)

My 2 * 1.42 powermac has an EHCI controler (whatever that is called USB 2, 2.5 etc). All the "FW800" powermacs have, I guess apple just coud'nt get supplies of the old OHCI ones anymore.

It is disabled by default by OpenFirmware, but can be kicked into life if you use linux and work just fine then.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (2, Insightful)

himself (66589) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252430)

>
> Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire
> instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible.
>
Didn't I read that the USB port on recent Macs _is_ an USB 2.0 port, and that only the driver was missing?
>
> Bad grammar..
>
Careful where you pont that thing, son. You might shoot your own self.
>
> ...but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry
> but this sounds like wishful thinking.
>
The Macs will do whatever you want: calling them a "graphics machine" only shows that _your_ vision is limited. I mean, they're not the front-end console for a drum-scanner or a Cray, fer chrissakes. Think the old "digital hub" idea, and imagine one of these Bad Larrys plugged right into your home stereo.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (3, Insightful)

Eslyjah (245320) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252436)

G3, G4, and G5 are Apple names, not Motorola names. Apple will probably call the 970 a G5.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

nattt (568106) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252437)

G5 is the name of the computer, not the processor. Motorolla planned a G5 processor, but I don't think they ever got it working. The specs of the machines fit in with the 970. So it's called a G5, but it's really a 970. Early 970's did 1.8ghz, so it's highly likely that production has got that to 2.0ghz.

The specs I read earlier for the 970 indicated a 900mhz bus, so a 1ghz bus is not out of the question with the new hypertransport stuff.

Apple play NVIDIA and ATI off against each other. They've offered both for quite a while now.

Sure Apple use Firewire - they invented it, but I bet if they're using more PC standards in their motherboard that USB 2 comes along for the ride. Supposodly the latest crop of Power Macs had USB2.0, just without the higher speed drivers. Remember Apple were the first to popularise USB...

Why only one Firewire800 port? Well, it has a different connector so your old gear won't plug into it without an adapter.

Macs are not "graphics machines" - they're general purpose professional computers. With all the audio software and video software that Apple are putting out, this becomes a great feature.

All I wish is that I'd started saving earlier.....

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252441)

The 'G' classification is an Apple trademark, so they can call it whatever they want, G5, etc. you idiot,

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

bpbond (246836) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252443)

I have no idea about this "G5." But most of your reasons aren't particularly compelling:

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts.

One's a marketing term, the other technical. Apple can label as "G5" anything it wants.

Not to mention neither Motorola or IBM have 2GHz chips in their roadmap until 2005

Overclocking?

1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible

Exactly half 2 GHz; why impossible? Even Intel can be leapfrogged.

Almost believable, but for the moment Apple are phasing out the use of NVIDIA cards in their machines. I highly doubt they'll be used.

Vague. Who knows?

The rest of Apples site would say "3 USB Ports" not "Three". Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible

Lack of USB2 has been a big complaint. And presumably the graphic was a draft--no final copyediting done yet.

Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible

I assume there's a cost difference between 400 and 800? If significant, doesn't seem crazy to provide one *very* high-speed port, and others moderate.

Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible.

This one is a little weird, I agree.

B

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

IamTheRealMike (537420) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252445)

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts.

It is? I was under the impression that nobody was actually certain that this would be used. Everybody is simply assuming it will be, but there has been no confirmation from anybody.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252466)

Well, how many PPC processors can support 8 GB of RAM with a FSB of half the chip's frequency ? :)

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

Matthias Wiesmann (221411) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252446)

Once again use of the verbal "One" instead of the numeric. Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway?
Maybe because Firewire 800 uses a different connector [apple.com] . Most current devices use only Firewire 400.
I mark this impossible
Apple already offers machines with both 400 and 800 ports [apple.com] .

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252451)

"- Up to 1GHz processor bus

1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. ..."

Just because Intel can't do it doesn't mean Apple/IBM/board vendor can't do it. I seem to recall AMD doing things that Intel can't or won't.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (3, Insightful)

Lvcian (265912) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252461)

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts. Not to mention neither Motorola or IBM have 2GHz chips in their roadmap until 2005. Bzzzt One point impossible


G4/G5 is a branding thing, or at the very least a processor family classification. The G4's are PPC74**'s, such as the 7450 in my PB. Apple would go with the term "G5" if only from a branding perspective.

- Up to 1GHz processor bus


1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible


Don't take this as truth, but I have read that the processor:bus ratio for the 970 is 2:1, making the bus speed on the 2Ghz 1Ghz. This is in line with the graphic.


- AGP 8X Pro graphics options from NVIDIA or ATI

Almost believable, but for the moment Apple are phasing out the use of NVIDIA cards in their machines. I highly doubt they'll be used. Half a point impossible


Apple still uses NVIDIA as their low-end graphics card on the PM, and on one of the current PB (the 17" I think). Not impossible in the least

In regards to the "three" vs. "3" comment, look at this graphic:

Current PM Specs Graphic [akamai.net]

It uses both the numeral and spelled out number. Some of the uses look like they were done to preserve spacing or lengthen a short sentence.


- Three USB 2.0 ports

The rest of Apples site would say "3 USB Ports" not "Three". Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible


Apple has a long standing habit of using USB 1.1 as well as Firewire. Apple has always stated that both have their uses. People have been clamoring for USB 2.0 for a while now and there is no reason for Apple to not include it.


- One FireWire 800, two FireWire 400 ports

Once again use of the verbal "One" instead of the numeric. Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible


FW400 and FW800 use different connectors. FW400 is for legacy devices and those that do not need to run at the new specs speed


- Optical and analog audio in and out

Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible.


Remember the Mac is also used in numbers in the video and audio fields. Both of these would benefit strongly from the use of optical audio.

All this being said, these still could not be the true specs but they are not outside the realm of possibility as you claim. We'll have to wait until Monday to find out for sure.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

Teppo Tulppu (582335) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252462)

G5 is Apple's marketing name (if they will use it, nothing certain before monday) and PPC970 is name of the processor by IBM. Just like G4 is Apple's marketing name while Motorola has names of the format 7xxxx for the family of G4 processors. Completely same beast.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

stewarulz (683166) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252468)

I have the best reason why this can't be fake. I saw it on the Apple Store Website myself. And yes, I took a screen cap. So unless it was a hack, or a joke from an employee, this is very accurate.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (2, Interesting)

beckett (27524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252475)

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts. Not to mention neither Motorola or IBM have 2GHz chips in their roadmap until 2005.

geez, and the pentium iii wasn't much of an upgrade over the pentium II, right? it could be just a name used for marketing. maybe they want to avoid a situation where a ppc970 seems as awkward a mouthful to say as "Pentium II celeron".

I will concede to you on the 2ghz.. that was a suprise to me as well.
1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this.

i guess you were pretty incredulous when the Athlon came out with a double data rate bus before Intel. Intel does not corner the market on chip innovation: Hypertransport, for example, is pretty much something that Intel has nothing to do with either.
The rest of Apples site would say "3 USB Ports" not "Three". Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0.

guess you missed the bulletin that USB 2.0 chipsets are on new powermacs [macrumors.com] right now...
Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway?
becuase fw400 and 800 use different plugs? becuase there are mostly FW400 perhipherals available? i could think of all sorts of reasons. the 17" cafeteria tray powerbook has only one FW800...
but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking.
yeah it's whishful thinking. but hell, if the Creative Labs Audigy can have a SPDIF input and output, why not a mac? What kind of moron does audio on a mac? oh Skywalker Sound and Aphex Twin. i mean, have you ever heard of Protools [protools.com] ?
maybe it's going to be a big hoax and we'll all look like dupes. but saying that these things are "impossible" makes me think you've been reading too much PC propaganda.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (3, Insightful)

Halo1 (136547) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252491)

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts.
G5 is not processor model, it's a generation identifier (just like the G4 encompasses the 7400, 7410, 7450, 7455, 7457 and some more). The 970 is indeed probably something completely different from what Motorola's G5 processors will be, but nothing can stop Apple from calling the 970 a G5 processor.
1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible
The PPC970 uses a processor bus that runs at half the processor speed, so a 2GHz model would indeed have a 1GHz bus. Intel also doesn't have a 900MHz bus yet (afaik), while that has been announced by IBM [ibm.com] already as the bus speed for the 1.8 GHz version of the PPC970.
Almost believable, but for the moment Apple are phasing out the use of NVIDIA cards in their machines. I highly doubt they'll be used.
You mean like the latest introduced products - the Powerbook 12" and 17" [apple.com] -, which both use NVidia chipsets?
Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway?
Because the connector for FW800 is different and requires an adapter if you want to connect legacy 400 mpbs devices.
Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible
Current Powermac G4's already include an USB controller that is USB 2.0 capable... It's true they favor Firewire over USB 2.0, but I certainly wouldn't count this point as impossible.
Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine?
Who claimed this is just a graphics machine? These are simply Apple's professional machines... They also included gigabit ethernet before it was practically useful (it still isn't in most environments), it's simply a way to distinguish them from the pack (and in this case, to finally offer surround sound at the same time probably).

Now, you can still think it's a fake (it's quite possible, I don't know), but your arguments sound quite unconvincing to me.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

Drahca (410495) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252510)

Check here [ibm.com] .

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts. Not to mention neither Motorola or IBM have 2GHz chips in their roadmap until 2005. Bzzzt One point impossible

From the article: The PowerPC 970 design starts by remapping one of the POWER4 processor cores to 0.13-micron technology and increasing its frequency up to 1.8 GHz.
So they more or less say here the new processors will begin at 1.8 Ghz, 2GHZ can't be that far off.

1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible
Again from the article: The 970's multiple execution units including an AltiVecâ compatible vector processor are fed by an up to 900-MHz processor interface bus, which can deliver data at a rate of up to 6.4 GBps.
900Mhz!?! This is bigger than intel, this can't be?!? Does 1Ghz look that impossible now? Maybe the bus runs on half the processor speed? This would match the artciles 900mhz / 1.8Ghz

Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine?
Many Macs are also used in the audio business, so why is this impossible comming from a company suchs as Apple?

Maybe not SO impossible as you might seem to think?

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (5, Informative)

croddy (659025) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252511)

people do plenty of serious audio work on apples. err, I mean, most of the industry uses them. 90% of the time I spend on apple machines is in audio apps. creative is shipping consumer-grade cards with optical jacks; it's no surprise that apple would include them in a stock setup.

a lot of G4's shipped with just. plain. awful sound cards. this is welcome news.

Maybe, maybe not. (5, Informative)

Doktor Memory (237313) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252523)

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts.

Newsflash, kiddo: neither Motorola nor IBM sell a CPU called the "G4". "G4" was a "marchitechture" term coined by Apple in the spirit of Motorola's internal "G3" codename for the PPC750. The chip inside any "PowerMac G4" is some flavor of a Motorola PowerPC 7400, no matter what Apple calls it.

You can pretty much bet the farm that Apple will call every varient of the PPC970 they ship a "PowerPC G5".

1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible.

Ahem. [hypertransport.org] ("1ghz" is probably apple marketing-speak, but it's always been known that the PPC970 will have a stupidly fast FSB -- Intel isn't the only company that can innovate in this field, eh?)

Almost believable, but for the moment Apple are phasing out the use of NVIDIA cards in their machines.

Simply and 100% wrong. Apple has been doing pretty much exactly the same thing for the last three years on this front: providing whichever of the two offered them the best OEM pricing as the default configuration, and offering the other as a build-to-order option. They will continue to do this.

Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0

Here, you may be correct, but there are two issues that may force them to start shipping "USB 2.0" connectors: first, the USB consortium has recently declared [theinquirer.net] that all USB ports are "USB 2.0" (yes, this is weird and stupid), and secondly it's actually getting a bit difficult to source USB controllers that only support the 1.0/1.1 specs.

Once again use of the verbal "One" instead of the numeric. Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible

FW400 and FW800 use different connectors, and there are not yet many FW800 products on the market. This is called "covering your bets" and "not pissing off your customers". BTW, 1x FW800 and 2x FW400 is also the configuration on the 17" AlBook, so they've already shipped one machine in exactly this "impossible" configuration.

optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking.

No, it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you have any idea how many macs are used in audio production? Are you aware that Apple sells their own high-end audio composition program [apple.com] ? The only surprise about a PowerMac with optical TOSlink is that they didn't do it years ago.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

ZigMonty (524212) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252526)

OK I can't believe the mac world is going gaga over these specs. The screenshot font, color and layout do NOT match that of anywhere else on the Apple site. Taking a look through the specs is also quite revealing

Or maybe they are changing the site design?

- 1.6GHz, 1.8GHz or Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5 Processors

It's not a G5, it's a PPC970, completely different beasts. Not to mention neither Motorola or IBM have 2GHz chips in their roadmap until 2005. Bzzzt One point impossible

Sorry? You do realise that "G4" wasn't the official name for that processor either, don't you? It was the 7400. Apple can call the 970 whatever they want. The specs match the 970 perfectly.

- Up to 1GHz processor bus

1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible

Do some reading on the 970. Its bus is clocked at 1/4 the speed of the processor, DDR. So the effective bus speed of the 2 GHz version is 1 GHz.

- AGP 8X Pro graphics options from NVIDIA or ATI

Almost believable, but for the moment Apple are phasing out the use of NVIDIA cards in their machines. I highly doubt they'll be used. Half a point impossible

Impossible? That's a strong word for someone with no supporting evidence.

- Three USB 2.0 ports

The rest of Apples site would say "3 USB Ports" not "Three". Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible

- One FireWire 800, two FireWire 400 ports

Once again use of the verbal "One" instead of the numeric. Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible

- Optical and analog audio in and out

Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible.

Once again, impossible? Do you even know what that word means? If you said "In my opinion it's unlikely" then I'd let it go but "impossible"?!

In total, that's 4 and a half impossible features out of ten. If you're waiting on this machine, you'll be waiting a LONG time people.

This may well turn out to be fake but your reasoning leaves much to be desired. I'm putting my money on this being true.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (2, Informative)

svenjob (671129) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252531)

Although I agree that some of the wording is not consistant with Apple's regular product descriptions, the specs are not at all impossible. If you've been keeping up with the news behind the G5, you'll know a few things. First, the G5 is the PPC970. The "G" product name has a shit-load of product recognition. Like the Pentiums. How close is a Pentium4 to a Pentium3? Not very much. Also, about the system bus, they are using Hyper-Transport which does allow for a 1GHz system bus. I've seen system design specs that indicate a doulbe (or possibly even quad) pumped, bidirectional bus (500MHz out / 500MHz in). About the FireWire 800/400 issues: it's all about cost and bandwidth. Anything more than 1 FireWire 800 port is so unnecessary, it's rediculous. Name anything that can use all that bandwidth, let alone the system bus! All that bandwidth room requires computing power which requires more circuits which, in turn, requires more money. FireWire 400 is fast enough for anything right now. Also, about USB 2.0, look at the number of products out now which requires USB 2.0. Apple would be stupid not to build in support for it. One more thing: AGP 8x is necessary now for graphics.

Re:My analysis of why Rebeka Thomas' reply is shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252540)

'G5' is Apples name for their next generation CPU, whoever or whatever it turns out to be. They are not different beasts, they are different names.

Motorola is entirely irrelevant regarding the 970

2005 date must have been plucked from your bucket like vagina (I assume you are female), as IBM has said nothing concrete about 2ghz+ processors. Apple will have made sure of this.

Putting 'bzzzt' in your posts makes you sound like spiteful cunt who deserves a boot to the mouth

Intel are not IBM, the fact they haven't got a 1ghz bus yet is irrelevant. Granted, it does seem a little high, but even so, I'd love to hear your explanation of why it is impossible

Where do Apple say they are phasing out nVidia cards?

Have you seen many firewire keyboards or mice around? Many cheap digi-cams that support firewire? I dont think so. That is why Apple have USB. They have USB2 because it is out there and people will want to use USB2 devices

Apples are as much music machines as graphics machines, take a look at the high-end music software for Mac in comparison to a PC. Anyway, my fucking 2 year old minidisc walkman has optical output, as does just about every other modern digital audio device. They aren't some new-fangled technology.

I count a few improbables, but no impossibles.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

Richard5mith (209559) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252566)

You clearly have no idea.

G5 is a marketing name. Apple gave the processors that name, not Motorola or IBM (who make G3's). To Moto, it's a 7450, 7455 and other odd numbers. G5 makes sense to consumers, because they see it as one more than G4. Call it a 970 and you'll have to call it a 970-B, 980 etc over the next year as IBM update the chip.

These were also taken from Apple's online store and they do match their usual font, colour etc.

Firewire 400 is so you can plug your 400 devices into that and your 800 ones into the other one. Otherwise an 800 firewire hub has all it's devices slowed down to 400 as soon as you put a 400 device into it. This is exactly the same as the current models.

You'll see them on Monday.

Re:My analysis of why this is fake. (1)

antibryce (124264) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252567)

1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible


Uhh...aren't PCs at a 900MHZ bus right now? That's only 100MHZ away from 1GHZ.


Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible


That would explain my iBooks 2 USB ports and 1 firewire port. You seem to forget that Apple also has a habit (which severely predates the PC world) of including lots of USB)


Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible


There aren't a lot of FW800 devices out yet. There are tons of FW400. That's why they left the 400 ports and only added 1 FW800.


Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible.


This may come as a shock, but some people apparently use Macs for audio work too! For instance the ENTIRE FUCKING MUSIC INDUSTRY.


In total, that's 4 and a half impossible features out of ten. If you're waiting on this machine, you'll be waiting a LONG time people.


I'm sorry, but you are so out of it that I'm bookmarking your post, and when these machines are announced I will be sure to post it all over the slashdot story :)

Insert USB2 joke here :P [nt] (-1, Offtopic)

popeyethesailor (325796) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252336)

No text!

huh? (5, Insightful)

Frac (27516) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252347)

No offense, but anyone who thinks it was a mistake or leak doesn't understand marketing. :) -- Michael

No offense, anyone who has half a clue is fully aware that Apple is particularly fascist and litigious regarding details of product launches leaking out. In particular, Steve Jobs simply loves the "wow" he gets from the audience by completely surprising them. In this case, few people actually expected DUAL 2Ghz PPC970 (G5) configurations available. Now, people are going to be less surprised on Monday.

Surely Michael is welcome to tell us how much he understands marketing and what products has he actually marketed, and we can see how much his credentials stack up against someone in charge of Apple and Pixar.

MOD PARENT UP (1)

hype7 (239530) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252410)

Took the words right out of my mouth.

The twit who posted this story thinks he can run Apple. All he's really showing his ignorance.

Re:huh? (1)

Rinikusu (28164) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252428)

No shit. The sound you hear is the sound of some poor schmuck getting canned. Besides the obvious "Holy Shit Batman!" and "Hell yeah!" from Mac crowd (well, I know what I'm saving up for), the next question/statement should be:

So... Apple's probably got a position open now, eh? :)

Dual 2Ghz PPC's??? I know, the x86 kids out there are gonna scream "So what? I can buy dual 3.06 GHZ Hypertransport P4's for $2k less, so nyah!" I really can't wait to see what (if any) performance increases the "G5" will bring.

And finally, I wonder what they'll be able to scale these puppies to? It'll do no good for Apple to go with a new line of procs only to hit a 3 ghz or 3.5 ghz ceiling.. And how fast can IBM ramp up?

And, finally (maybe finally doesn't mean what I think it means), what does this spell for the iBooks and Powerbooks? G4's across the line, with G5's in top ends? And how soon??

Re:huh? (1)

imadork (226897) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252537)

In this case, few people actually expected DUAL 2Ghz PPC970 (G5) configurations available. Now, people are going to be less surprised on Monday.

They might be less suprised on Monday, but they'll still be suprised if they manage to ship 2GHz machines on time! (Anyone remember those >500MHz G3's?)

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252551)

Two words: generates buzz.

Ah, naming (4, Funny)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252348)

The new desktops will indeed be branded 'G5'.

Man, I couldn't be more shocked if the next version of Windows was called 2004 or 2005. What will they think of next? ;)

In other news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252350)

A lorry filled with new Apple G5s intended for an Asda supermarket was stolen. It was found empty three days later. Police warned anybody who tried to buy sell or use the new macs could be procecuted.

To spell it out: the specs (5, Informative)

mithras the prophet (579978) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252354)

* 1.6Ghz, 1.8Ghz, or dual 2Ghz PowerPC G5 Processors
* Up to 1 Ghz processor bus (!!)
* Up to 8 GB of DDR SDRAM
* Fast Serial ATA hard drives
* AGP 8X Pro graphics options from NVIDIA or ATI
* Three PCI or PCI-X expansion slots
* Three USB 2.0 ports
* One FireWire 800, two FireWire 400 ports
* Bluetooth & Airport Extreme ready
* Optical and analog audio in and out

Quite a leap from the current dual 1.42Ghz G4 boxes, with a 166Mhz bus...

Re:To spell it out: the specs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252420)

Karma whore ! (:

Re:To spell it out: the specs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252463)

I posted it at score 2, guy. I certainly don't need karma.
mithras

Apple's New G5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252356)

Well, as soon as they leak the specs on the G5 PowerBooks, I might be getting a new laptop. Ever since Apple put UNIX under their OS, I've been more and more persuaded to buy one. Then, I actually used one, with a regular wheel mouse, and I thought "I should really get one of these". So, now that I've seen this, I am way more likely to get an apple laptop. But Tux still 0wnz my desktop soul, now and forever. *Bows before the Dark Penguin gods*

I wasn't persuaded all that much... (1)

cnelzie (451984) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252442)

I just took a look at http://www.emperorlinux.com/ and found that the high-end Dell laptop, the one with the WIDE SCREEN display was fully supported by Red Hat 9, which is the main Linux that they ship...

So, I ordered myself a Dell and it will be in my hands this evening...

Now, I get the best of "both" worlds... I have a kick-ass and sexy EASILY portable system to take to LAN Parties, which will play just about EVERY game out there, being that it runs Windows... AND I will also be able to partition the hard disk to toss Red Hat 9 on it, providing me with a powerful portable UNIX workstation that supports 3 button functionality RIGHT on its built-in mouse pad...

(Try that with a Mac!)

If I really wanted to... I could also order up some easily replaceable "Skins" for this high-end Inspiron Laptop giving it a more unique look. Needless to say, this will be one bad-ass machine.

I can't say the Mac laptops are all that bad. I went to the local store to take a look at their 15.4" wide screen displays to help me make my decision about buying the Dell. (I almost went for the standard 15.4" screen until I saw the beauty that is the Wide Screen on a laptop format...)

Re:I wasn't persuaded all that much... (1)

MrMickS (568778) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252562)

So, I ordered myself a Dell and it will be in my hands this evening...
I'm typing this on a Dell laptop provided by my current employer as they won't let me plug in the Apple G4 laptop I've been using for the last 18 months in case of viruses.

It's lucky that I wasn't trying to type this yesterday as the message wouldn't make a lot of sense. You see I've just had the keyboard replaced for the third time in four months. Prior to the replacement a whole chunk of the keyboard wouldn't work. Within my office we are running at 8 replacement keyboards in this time between 5 of us.

I wish you luck with your Dell, I really do, but I'll stick with a laptop that works ;)

Re:Apple's New G5 (1, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252488)

Well, as soon as they leak the specs on the G5 PowerBooks, I might be getting a new laptop.

Really? I think I'll wait until they actually release the hardware...

But... (2, Interesting)

TheDredd (529506) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252357)

it was a mistake. Apple has always been tight lipped about new product releases, and why would they want to reduce the impact the WWDC keynote will have?? If they wanted people to know about this, they would have released the info earlier. This was a mistake made with updating the online store.

And heads will roll for the poor souls who accidently updated the store to early.

Re:But... (1)

caffeine_monkey (576033) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252440)

And what a remarkable series of typos it would be. "'2 GHz G5' ... oh sorry, I meant to type '1.42 GHz G4'. Sorry! '...up to 1 GHz system bus...' Whups! I didn't mean to mention the system bus at all. Sorry. 'up to 8 GB of DDR RAM' ... Whups again! I don't know what's wrong with my fingers today."

mmmmm, NUMA! (4, Interesting)

mekkab (133181) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252360)

I'm sure these would be set at the "You Have To Be KIDDING me!" price point, but I'm sure these would be delicious machines to get a hold of.

Would these be CHRP (common hardware ref. platform) compliant? Or has apple abandoned that? Cuz then you could run MacOS, or Linux, or AIX all native on the same box.

Re:mmmmm, NUMA! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252452)

mmmmm, NUMA!

Whoa, settle down there, Dirk Pitt!

Great (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252365)

Only about 2 years behind now. But it comes with a rewal gay case. That will make it worth it.

Re:Great (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252390)

That was supposed to be really. Too early in the morning.

Re:Great (-1, Offtopic)

akpcep (659230) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252464)

Well I wouldn't worry about it. It's at -1 already so nobody is going to fucking read it.

this is ala the iMac (4, Funny)

customs (236182) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252368)

Remember the iMac flat panel introduction? Time Canada posted the news story to their website early monday morning, according to their normal news cycle...containing the story of the iMac FP with lots of fun pictures.

I can see it now in the keynote: "As some of you MAY have already heard (insert laughter) we have....(insert product announcements)"

whooo.

adam

Oh gosh, yet more problems for Apple customers (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252369)

I have spent the last few years toiling on an old PowerMac, a clunky ancient machine that was slow and unreliable. But newspapers are hesitant to buy new computers, so I continued to churn out stories on the unpredictable machine. I suppose at the time it was purchased, my beleaguered PowerMac was cutting edge, but in today's terms it was more powerful as a paperweight than a computer.

But my despised PowerMac was also built in a time before the Internet and multimedia became everyday experiences, so some of its issues could be forgiven.

When I upgraded to the brand-spanking new iBook, I was full of big expectations. I expected computer nirvana, especially given all the hype around newer Apple computers like the iMac. But it didn't take long for those expectations to be dashed.

First of all, my iBook didn't like the software I needed to run my Palm M515. Crashes and screen seizures were regular occurrences. And the iBook doesn't play well with a lot of things that are part of the Microsoft world.

Now some would say the problem with my Palm software is an issue for Palm Inc., not Apple. In fact the buggy Palm software demonstrates an important issue that is currently facing Apple -- third party manufacturers have stopped caring about Mac users. Software developed for the Macintosh platform is often a last-minute consideration, or worse, not even considered at all.

The problem with lackluster third party development has prompted Apple to create its own browser, which it calls Safari. Some industry watchers feel the development and release of Safari is an indication that Apple is being forced to become more actively involved in software development.

Of course all of these technological issues have led to business issues for Apple. Unlike competitors Hewlett-Packard Co. or even Dell Computer Corp., Apple relies primarily on personal computer sales, often to graphics and business professionals.

The reality is that computer sales are flat and Apple isn't immune to the problems that face the rest of the PC industry.

Expansion port (5, Funny)

Zayin (91850) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252381)

Expansion will be provided by three "PCI or PCI-X" slots, and - for the first time on a Mac - USB 2.0 ports, of which there are three.

To avoid any consumer confusion, Apple also stated that the USB 2.0 ports, previously called USB 1.1, were not "high speed" USB 2.0, but rather "ordinary" USB 2.0 (USB 1.1). The PCI slot will also be rebranded to PCI-X due to high customer demand for PCI-X slots. To make this clear, they also announced plans to rebrand the PCI-X slot as "PCI-X ultra high speed" and the PCI slot to "PCI high-speed". USB 2.0 ultra-mega-super-high speed expansion ports (previously called USB 2.0 high-speed) were also rumored.

Re:Expansion port (5, Funny)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252484)

One can only hope the G5 will not be some sort of rebranded G3... :-)

The specs are on Apple's Support forums (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252384)

here [apple.com] , here [apple.com] and here [apple.com] .

A little history lesson... (4, Informative)

berniecase (20853) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252395)

Going back through my memory, I can think of a couple other very important leaks:

* ATI leaks news of updated PowerMac G4s (and summarily gets poor product placement in them afterwards, with Apple favoring Nvidia for years to come)
* Time Canada posts story of new flat-panel iMac before paper issue even hits the streets.

I'm sure there have been more, but those seem to be the most important.

This one will go down as probably the most significant leak in quite a while.

powerbooks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252403)

any idea when powerbooks will begin using the G5?

Re:powerbooks (4, Interesting)

Blondie-Wan (559212) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252495)

Any idea? Indeed - according to the Register article [212.100.234.54] , "Something seems to be happening on the PowerBook front, at any rate. One reseller was told this week that his order for a number of 15in PowerBooks was cancelled by Apple, notification of which was appended with a comment that he should wait until Monday..."

:)

Leak and marketting (3, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252422)

No offense, but anyone who thinks it was a mistake or leak doesn't understand marketing. :)

Oooh, now thanks to Michael, I understand those devious marketdroids. Silly me, I thought the halloween document [opensource.org] was a real leak, or at least a fake, but now I understand why Microsoft's image and sales have sky-rocketed since its release : it's because their marketing department released it on purpose !

MacHack (-1, Troll)

flyhigher (643174) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252432)

One word: MacHack.

G5 name is taken.... (3, Informative)

Faeton (522316) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252460)

The G5 name has been taken by Canon's sweet new 5 megapixel camera. They had the G1, G2, G3 and now the G5. They actually skipped G4 name due to possible trademark issued with Apple. I guess that's secretly ironic.

Otherwise, with those specs, it's about time. When it does come out, it will at least give Intel/AMD a run for the money (remember, the 64 bit stuff will be out by then), instead of eating their dust.

Re:G5 name is taken.... (4, Insightful)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252563)

But the actual name is "Power Macintosh G5," as opposed to Canon's "Powershot G5."

IIRC, that was Apple's defense when they announced Mac OS 9.0 and Microware (makers of OS-9) took issue with it.

~Philly

I can see Steve Jobs in the Web department... (4, Funny)

shatfield (199969) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252477)

Jobs:
You.. You are FIRED...
and YOU! You are SOOO FIRED!
and you... you too are very VERY FIRED!

Guy:
But.. I wasn't even HERE yesterday!

Jobs:
I don't care! You are FIRED!

Better Article Title (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6252512)

Apple Lone Gunmens the G5 Announcement

For more credibility... (4, Informative)

henele (574362) | more than 11 years ago | (#6252541)

A relevant picture can still be found on an Akamai Mirror [akamai.net] (taken from an write-up here [openc.org]
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