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Screenshots of Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Leaked

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the brand-new-eye-candy dept.

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gorman writes "Screenshots of Apple's next major update to OS X, Panther (10.3), have finally been leaked to the web. For months very little has been known about Panther, with only several minor rumors here and there. These screenshots show off many new features, including the return of labels, a brand new Safari-like finder, and an interesting window management system called Exposé. In addition, the screenshots show off refined visuals and improvements to all of the included Apple applications, such as video support in iChat and enhanced spam filtering in Mail. While these screenshots show off a pre-release version of Panther, it's definitely interesting to see what Apple is working on! Steve Jobs will demonstrate Panther during his keynote this Monday at WWDC and will make it available to developers."

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wHEE (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261861)

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slashdot = mac rumor sites? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261867)

c'mon. there are dozens and dozen of mac rumor sites which handle this kind of news just find.

i find it interesting that slashdot has not jumped on the bandwagon, after hyping Linux and turning their attention to the next shiny cool thing.

Re:slashdot = mac rumor sites? (0, Flamebait)

moonbender (547943) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261910)

It's on apple.slashdot.org, and most certainly on-topic. You can disable all articles related to Apple easily in your preferences. Oh wait, maybe you can't, you're an AC. Gosh, sucks to be you.

Quick question..... (1, Funny)

Zugot (17501) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261868)

When can I get this for my Pee Cee?

Re:Quick question..... (0, Redundant)

Oliekirk (648203) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261903)

Never, its for Macs A.K.A the super amazing G5 computers e.t.c You will never seen Mac OSX on PC because it would detract from hardware sales and serverly damage profits. Getting profits in the tech sector is hard enough without hackng your legs off.

Re:Quick question..... (1)

Zugot (17501) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261937)

Actually, before you think troll, think about what the sarcasm in what I was saying. I recently purchased XD2 for Redhat 9, and noticed some simularities between the screenshots and my XD2 desktop.

Longhorn 2003 (5, Funny)

computerme (655703) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261870)

Looks like apple is poised again to take charge of the future of OSes. I can't wait till monday so i can see what will be in longhorn 2005.

Re:Longhorn 2003 (5, Insightful)

gerbache (540848) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261915)

I find it rather sad just how true that statement is. I have this sneaking suspicion that the OS X of today is the future of many operating systems, not just Windows. Oh well, I suppose that's a good thing, since at least it will hopefully drive development forward.

Re:Longhorn 2003 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261929)

you mean like they changed the progress indicator/bar from one that looks cool to one that looks like the one in XP?

Re:Longhorn 2003 (1)

shawnce (146129) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262031)

...but its not a progress bar but a meter of some type (bandwidth or audio?)...

Don't forget that even if the screen shots are real, they are of an OS that won't be released for many more months. Apple has been known to change things, sometimes a lot, (add/drop/polish features) in the final couple of months before release.

Re:Longhorn 2003 (3, Funny)

Oliekirk (648203) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261942)

Youl probably see most of the features 'borrowed' or 'reinvneted' by microsoft. Sounds like fun. Probably be slightly worse and look like Fisher Price made them.

Re:Longhorn 2003 (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6262041)

Hopefully they will also show up in various Linux distros in 2007.

OMG OMG OMG OMG (0, Funny)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261873)

Screenshots of a desktop OS...
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG! /. editors must learn some moderation... Not everything is news.

Re:OMG OMG OMG OMG (0, Troll)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261909)

Especially not these screenshots. I can't even tell any difference between OS 10.3 and 10.2. Woop, more brushed metal themes, it's like 1997 all over again. Hopefully they did something between these releases to justify the inevitable $130 upgrade fee.

Re:OMG OMG OMG OMG (2, Insightful)

snuffdiddy23 (620624) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262024)

i think it is certainly slashdot material, despite the absence of hyping the X11 that will be in it. the upgrade fee is significant, but nothing like m$ considering the absence of serial numbers and other mitigating factors that make it a really easily attainable option to anyone.

there are some big differences graphically and at the core, if nothing else in that this release will bring native applications that are based on existing x11 applications. slashdot is pretty late and pretty conservative on this i think, but that is because they actually have a good legal department and are not as easily shut down as the rest of the rumors sites, who are flailing in the light of yesterday and todays posts.

it could just be my nerdiness, but i see huge differences from those screens if nothing else in the process viewer, which does not look like a bad version of top anymore. also, the skin is completely new and worth note considering apple being a graphical os to most. it is not a significant core upgrade, but a user experience upgrade. a promising one at that that may be a 64-bit native version before 10.4. looks big to me, i was wondering when /. would do the g5 shots or the the panther shots and was surprised they took this long. 4osx had them long before. i reckon /. did its homework on this one and cowboy neal wasn't just having a bored day.

Re:OMG OMG OMG OMG (2, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261964)

I think the editors have it figured out about right. They got you to post, didn't they?

Re:OMG OMG OMG OMG (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6262014)

Tommy St. Fuckhead: you're such a self-indulgent fag. Fuck off.

Gnome Themes (1)

Znonymous Coward (615009) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261884)

Does anyone know of a _good_ Gnome theme that matches Mac OS X's Aqua look and feel?

Re:Gnome Themes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261943)

Try this [apple.com].

Everything else is but a cheap knock-off.

Re:Gnome Themes (1)

Znonymous Coward (615009) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261985)

I agree, I already have a Mac with OS X 10.2.6. Nothing in the Linux world is as good as iTunes/iDVD/iPhoto/etc.

What I want is a why to make my Linux box look similar to it. Nothing more.

Re:Gnome Themes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261976)

There are none. It is not possible for any to exist.

Mirror (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261891)

Mirror [nildram.co.uk]

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~12fg/Panther/

Torrent here (5, Informative)

mcgroarty (633843) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261896)

Torrent of the index.html and all images is here (panther.torrent) [mcgroarty.net] if page gets slashdotted.

Re:Torrent here (4, Funny)

Isbiten (597220) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261955)

Uh oh, now the discussion will become yet another BitTorrent FaQ thread.

Re:Torrent here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261962)

Hoping by now people have it figured out :-)

Looks the same to me. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261897)

Looks the same as the previous version to me.

I mean a few feature stuff. but look and feel looks the same. I'm desperately trying hard to be impressed here. I even tried visualizing seeing pr0n on it. Still not very impressed.

Re:Looks the same to me. (3, Informative)

TomHandy (578620) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261956)

First off, I assume you don't think this is EVERYTHING that is likely new in 10.3.

Secondly, some of these things do look to be significantly new..... as far as look and feel, of course it's the same.... what would be the point in dramatically changing the look and feel?

Feature-wise though, Expose looks like a very nice addition, as are labels.... not sure what Folder Actions are, but they could also be an interesting addition..... the new drive view also looks like it could be an improvement.

Some of the screenshots of course don't seem different at all, so I'm not sure why they posted them (the main desktop screenshot in particular, although a lot of it is "censored").... but the Mail.app inbox screenshot and the System Preferences screenshot look fairly standard.

Anyway, the point is, this hardly seems to be everything that 10.3 will have, feature-wise... just a few screenshots to show some new things.....

Wait til Monday, of course, for the full thing to be unveiled.

If the only thing that will impress you is a completely brand new look and feel though, then yeah, you'd probably be disappointed. Apple's focus is on adding and improving features, not drastically changing the look and feel itself.

-Tom

Re:Looks the same to me. (5, Informative)

whee (36911) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262080)

Some of the screenshots of course don't seem different at all, so I'm not sure why they posted them (the main desktop screenshot in particular, although a lot of it is "censored")...
They posted that because it demonstrates the Exposé window management. Here's how I'm assuming it works:
  1. You move your mouse to a corner of the screen, which handles some type of window.
  2. After some delay, all windows not of that type are hidden. Windows of that type are zoomed out (shrunk) until all fit on the desktop.
  3. Click on a window to zoom back onto it.

It's really an elegant solution to window clutter. It's either this or virtual desktops, and Apple probably would dislike virtual desktops due to the "where the hell did my windows go" factor. With Quartz, all the zooming should give the user usable visual feedback as to what's going on.

$$$$ Money ???? (1)

p4ul13 (560810) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261917)

Having purchased 10.2.* I have to wonder what this will cost....

Will it be a downloadable update, or will I have to purchase an upgrade disc? If I have to buy it, how much will that cost???

Re:$$$$ Money ???? (1)

DreadSpoon (653424) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261973)

From what I recall, odd versions are supposed to be free ugprades (i.e., 10.1, 10.3, 10.5, etc.) and even versions are paid-for upgrades (10.2, 10.4, etc.).

So Panther should be free to owners of Jaguar/10.2.

Re:$$$$ Money ???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6262090)

Where do these rumors get started?

Puma was a free upgrade. Jaguar was a $129 upgrade. Two data points do not make a graph. You could just as easily say that Panther will be a $258 upgrade as free.

But it won't be. Panther will almost certainly be $129.

Re:$$$$ Money ???? (1)

Limac333 (665519) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261974)

All the odd numbered releases will be free and you pay for the even numbered ones(At least thats how Apple has done it.) 10.0 pay, 10.1 free, 10.2 pay, 10.3 free

why would anyone on slashdot know? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261978)

consumer ignoramus. jeez.

Re:$$$$ Money ???? (2, Informative)

entrox (266621) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261981)

I'm 99% sure it will cost money. Probably $129 retail, $79 academic and $0 for ADC members. You had to pay for 10.2, what makes you think 10.3 will be free?

Re:$$$$ Money ???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261988)

Panther will be a US$129 upgrade/new cost (no discount upgrade from 10.2)

Re:$$$$ Money ???? (2, Insightful)

pauljlucas (529435) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262003)

I have to wonder what this will cost....>/i>
Probably the same as what Jaguar cost.
Will it be a downloadable update ...
Based on the 10.1-to-10.2 transition, probably not. The x.y.z (where the z varies) updates are free. Geez... you're getting oodles of new features and can't cough up the modest price to support the company? Why do people always expect new software releases to be free and are outraged when they're not? Software isn't free. It takes developer and Q/A time (which is very expensive given developer salaries) plus web site and documentation updates (which is also done by expensive people).

"Desktop Experience" (3, Funny)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261920)

"experience'.... Blah, how lame. Its soooo overused these days it makes me sick.

Between that and Microsoft's ' rich internet experience' crap.

Its a damned OS, its a TOOL.. its not some drug induced altered state of mind...

Re:"Desktop Experience" (4, Funny)

christurkel (520220) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261945)

Its a damned OS, its a TOOL.. its not some drug induced altered state of mind... You haven't used a Mac, have you?

ha ha ha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261998)

you made a funny. good for you.

Re:"Desktop Experience" (4, Funny)

imadork (226897) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261957)

Its a damned OS, its a TOOL.. its not some drug induced altered state of mind...

You obviously have never encountered Steve's Reality Distortion Field. Whatever it is that Steve is smoking, at least he's kind enough to share.

Re:"Desktop Experience" (1)

adpowers (153922) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261959)

It goes along with Steve Jobs being a hippy.

Jimi Hendrix has the Jimi Hendrix Experience.
Steve Jobs has the Macintosh Desktop Experience.

Re:"Desktop Experience" (5, Insightful)

cynical (3027) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262081)

>Its a damned OS, its a TOOL.. its not some drug induced altered state of mind...

You're partially right - it's an OS, but it's also a user interface, and all of the changes shown in the screenshots are UI changes. It may be jargon that reeks of marketspeak, but "experience" is actually a fairly useful way of thinking about how people work with UIs. It's more than file management and app launching, it's the utility of system alerts and messages, the clarity of the typeface, the ease with which the user understands what's going on, the myriad ways the user's time using the interface is helped or hindered by the UI design.

Nice... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261923)

This is great. Some people say that posting this is absurd, but you can tell they're not mac users and they don't care about the development of OSX.

OSX is a great OS that Apple actually can develop in secrecy. Microsoft can't even keep their alpha versions covered, so don't think that leaks or new features are known to the world AS they're being debugged. Therefore, very little is known about Panther, and any leak is a good thing (especially so close to its introduction next week.)

I hate metal (1)

Isbiten (597220) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261936)

I think Apple should keep the aqua look, this new look, isn't as nice as the current.

I see no need to have every application in a metal theme. All the apple apps are enough.

Metal Sucks. Aqua slightly better. (4, Insightful)

yroJJory (559141) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261993)

I agree. I've had the same complaint ever since QuickTime 4 came out:

* With these brushed-metal windows, you cannot tell which window is in front.

I've closed so many windows I didn't intend to simply because I thought it was in the foreground when I hit Cmd-W.

Why did Apple have to toss out all the UI lessons they'd learned since 1984?

Re:Metal Sucks. Aqua slightly better. (1)

Isbiten (597220) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262051)

Yeah they're even breaking their own aqua guidelines. I haven't had a problem with telling which window is infront since I use tabs, and hide applications I don't use.

Re:I hate metal (1)

Boo Robin (657702) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262087)

http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/metallifizer/

That will do what you want. I no longer have any brushed metal applications. Besides iTunes of course, too lazy to change it.

-Boo

Jagged fonts (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6261946)

Am I the only one who finds the font rendering horrible? I hope they fix that. If they do, I'll buy an iMac.

Apparantly, many Mac users are more artistic than non-Mac users, and they don't complain. I mean, look at an iMac and the nigh-on unreadable default fonts.

No one else finds it quite odd that text looks so crappy on iMacs?

Re:Jagged fonts (-1, Troll)

Jerk City Troll (661616) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262057)

Some (or) all of those screenshots are fake. Fonts look exceptional on OS X, far superior to any other platform's font rendering (of course this is also due to Apple's patents on hinting bytecodes in truetype fonts). Go buy an iMac, they are great machines.

Mail.app spam improvements? How about real fixes? (5, Insightful)

yroJJory (559141) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261949)

Improving the the capabilities of the spam filtering in Apple's Mail.app program is nice, but I wonder if they've fixed any of the *REAL* problems? There are so many problems that Macintouch [macintouch.com] has PAGES of reader reports of issues. [macintouch.com]

Like, the fact that the application kills its own preferences if your drive runs out of space.

Or the problem of attachments being destroyed when sent if they have a resource fork.

I switched to Mail.app for a day, but switched back to Entourage when I discovered these serious issues, as well as the lack of interface behavior controls (like the fact that Mail.app automatically marks an email viewed in the preview pane as "read", when I don't want it to).

Re:Mail.app spam improvements? How about real fixe (2, Informative)

adpowers (153922) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261986)

I'm sure it will have tons of bug fixes and speed improvements, just like Jaguar. But what is easier to show (especially in a screen shot), new features or bug fixes?

Re:Mail.app spam improvements? How about real fixe (1)

yroJJory (559141) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262021)

With an app as buggy as Mail.app is, I don't understand why they haven't released a maintenence update already? I mean they've updated iSync and iPod and other tools so many times in the past few months.

The Mac needs a decent email app. Entourage corrupts mailboxes (and is from M$), Eudora hasn't gotten any real improvements since version 3 (no, I don't consider advertising an improvement), and MailSmith suffers from lack of UI controllability (much like Mail.app).

Did I miss something?

Re:Mail.app spam improvements? How about real fixe (1)

usermilk (149572) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262088)

>Entourage corrupts mailboxes

Really? DO you have evidence? I am sick of FUD on Entourage because it is an M$ product. Grow up, M$ isn't pure evil.

Re:Mail.app spam improvements? How about real fixe (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6262010)

like the fact that Mail.app automatically marks an email viewed in the preview pane as "read", when I don't want it to

Yes, how dare Mail.app mark a message "read" when it's been viewed! I think it should only be marked as "read" after I'd read it, and considered the spiritual nature of it's consequences. When will apple correct this deficiency???

Re:Mail.app spam improvements? How about real fixe (0)

yroJJory (559141) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262039)

Yes, how dare Mail.app mark a message "read" when it's been viewed!

Who said I viewed it? It will mark the message read simply because I up- or down-arrowed past it on the way to another message.

Personally, I like to mark messages read by hitting a hotkey. But Apple doesn't give us that option.

Re:Mail.app spam improvements? How about real fixe (1)

DoctorPepper (92269) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262036)

Gee, I really don't know what you're talking about. I've been using Mail.app since the beginning of last November, and I haven't had a single problem. Not one.

I have used Outlook on Windows (still do, at work) for many years (I first started using it in 1997, when it shipped with Office 97), and have always found it to be a bloated piece of crap. I couldn't imagine forcing myself to use Entourage, considering it was created by the same company that created Outlook.

Nope, I think Mail.app has just about the right blend of usefulness and minimalism.

HTTP Mirror (2, Informative)

DMDx86 (17373) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261960)

Mirror in case of slashdotting: Click Here [dmdtech.org]

Re:HTTP Mirror (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6262034)

Nice, perhaps you would consider hosting them on something other than your old Apple IIe with a 300 bajad modem?

How about Voice for Chat? (1)

wirefarm (18470) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261979)

No mention of that.
I hope it's there - Yahoo for OS X has had video for ages and it's a lot less useful than voice.
Another thing I'd like is a better shortcut key set than they have. I don't want to *always* keep a mouse in hand.
Also a way to minimize all windows at once...
I don't see another $140 of value here yet...

Cheers,
Jim

Re:How about Voice for Chat? (1)

Toadguy (651044) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262019)

I too looked at the pictures of the ichat preferences and wondered about audio - there being no preferences tab for it. If it wants to be a video conferencing program it surely must have audio too. After all, whats the point of looking at someone typing ? Toadguy

So... (-1, Flamebait)

I Am The Owl (531076) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261980)

Anyone want to put down bets as to how much this minor update is going to cost Apple owners? $100? $200? $300? I remember when my school got reamed from upgrading from 10.1 to 10.2

Re:So... (1)

computerme (655703) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262038)

this is a MAJOR update. I do not understand how anyone can say otherwise. Apple unlike some companies out there pack a lot of stuff into their ".1' upgrades.

somebody repair the drain pipe (4, Interesting)

Neophytus (642863) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261982)

Whos willing to bet that the very accidental leak of G5 specs came from the same people who very accidentaly leaked these screenshots.

Apple upgrades more often than windows? (0, Troll)

E1v!$ (267945) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261997)

Seems win 98 was out before 95 left beta... then ME 2 years later.. everyone was bitching about how quickly the operating systems were changing.

Apples doing the same thing and all we get is "OMG OMG OMG".....

C'mon. This is sheit. Upgrades this often shouldn't be charged for unless they come with something cool (like a better, bouncier girlfriend.)

Inconsistent UI (1)

Rura Penthe (154319) | more than 10 years ago | (#6261999)

I want to know if that's really Apple's new idea of Aqua for window title bars, etc. It does not gel consistently with the background bars. Look at the system prefs pic, it has pinstripes whereas the others do not. The background bars are usually slightly translucent in 10.2 as well, why is that gone in this 10.3 shot? Also, why would Apple leave a more obvious pinstripe on the menu bar and remove it elsewhere? Either Apple has abandoned consistency within Aqua itself or this is a horrible theming job (like most themes are).

Expose also appears to be just minimize in place (the old 10.2 "feature" that was removed at the last minute) made to work for all things at once. I will be interested to see if it actually proves to be useful or just a gimmick to show off the power of Quartz Extreme.

I do believe these screenshots are real, but I hope to god the interface has been themed in some fashion and Apple isn't doing this to their UI...

A few observations (5, Interesting)

eericson (103272) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262001)

A few things:

1) I completely stoked to see Security having it's own control panel.

2) Where's the advanced spam filtering mentioned? I just see the normal Mail.app screen.

3) I don't see the Safari driven finder either. It's just the normal finder window with a brushed metallic look. (I still haven't made up my mind on the metallic. I don't hate it, but it's not lickable like the rest of the OS)

4) For anyone who's never used them, folder actions kick ass.

Can't wait till monday.

-E2

Re:A few observations (2, Interesting)

Squidgee (565373) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262091)

The Safari-driven finder: look here [deskmod.com]. Looks veddy veddy Safari like to me...

Why doesn't Apple embrace open source fully ? (-1, Troll)

Krapangor (533950) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262002)

Apple uses already FreeBSD as a basis for it's operating system.
So, why won't they go a step farther and use OSS user interfaces instead of their old proprietary stuff ?
With Gnome and KDE are some great professional UI around and they are coded in modern C++.
And legal threats are no problem there. SCO claimed no ownage with respect to KDE/Gnome or X Windows.
And it's well known that the newest KDE versions have higher performance then the old Apple GUIs. There might be some little incompatibilities, but this is nothing good coders can't fix.

Re:Why doesn't Apple embrace open source fully ? (2, Insightful)

eericson (103272) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262030)

Frankly, because making money on OSS is HARD.

(Ask Mandrake oops can't)

-E2

Re:Why doesn't Apple embrace open source fully ? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6262040)

So, why won't they go a step farther and use OSS user interfaces instead of their old proprietary stuff ? With Gnome and KDE are some great professional UI around and they are coded in modern C++.
This is quite possibly the funniest thing I have ever read on slashdot. Thank you :)

Re:Why doesn't Apple embrace open source fully ? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6262049)

I can't decide if this poster is a troll or an imbecile.

Perhaps both.

Some of these look faked. (1, Interesting)

Jerk City Troll (661616) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262005)

Some of those images either look faked or I simply do not understand what is happening.

What's up with this image [deskmod.com]? If you'll notice, the menu bar across the top appears to be "normal" size, but everything else is kind of scaled down. Is there some new feature that lets you set the "magnification" of the windows rather than just their dimensions? Also notice that the windows are not scaled well at all. Reminds me of nearest neighbor as opposed to bilinear.

AFAIK, it's a violation of Apple's own Human Interface Guidelines to have several selectable items on the same line of a menu, such as in this picture [deskmod.com], and this one too [deskmod.com].

Lastly, this image [deskmod.com] shows the System Preferences window, yet the titlebar text is faded like it's unfocused. Unfocused windows in OS X have their titlebars made slightly transluscent. I hope they haven't changed this, it was a good idea.

Also, I didn't know they were removing many of the stiples from the UI. That would be very unlike Apple since users choke whenever the interface look even the slightest bit changed.

Re:Some of these look faked. (5, Informative)

entrox (266621) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262069)

The image is supposed to be showcasing a new feature called "expose" (it these are real that is), which should help managing your windows. Take a look at the preferences [opinionstick.com].

Also you'll notice, that foreground windows are shaded grey and have coloured stoplight buttons, while the unfocused window is plain white and has monochrome stoplight buttons. So, apparently unfocused titlebars are not translucent anymore.

I really hope those screenshots are either fake or just plain unpolished/unfinished. Jaguar looks way better IMHO.

Re:Some of these look faked. (1)

jspoon (585173) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262072)

That's showing the feature called Exposé. I'm not clear exactly how it works, but when triggered it shows you all the windows you have open, scaled down so they fit.

Re:Some of these look faked. (4, Interesting)

matthew.thompson (44814) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262075)

The image with the small sized windows I believe is the new app - Exposé

It scales all windows so that they can all fit on hte screen at once showing you everything you're doing - you lcik on one and they revert to their normal state but with the selected window in the forground.

Or at least thats how I imagine it from the description.

changes to the OS X operating system (1, Interesting)

rouge86 (608370) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262011)

Overall, I really don't see any difference in the operating system based on appearance. When I look at an operating system, I look for reliability and stability. Eye candy is ok but not my favorite. I use a mac and a pc(linux/windows). For all of you that are mac extremists, consider that eye candy is not what makes an OS superior. It is its reliability and stability. When I bought my mac laptop, I could have easily bought a linux laptop, but it was the unix and support of hardware that I wanted that made me buy a mac.

"stacks" (1)

prell (584580) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262023)

Where are the screenshots of the "stacks" file-organization metaphor? I was really curious to see how it worked.

Not much left for Steve (2, Funny)

Isbiten (597220) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262025)

Rumor sites and leaks have pretty much gotten all the good stuff already. So I wonder what Steve will do on monday. I mean he truly loves announcing new shiny things.

They still haven't fixed fucking iTunes, though (2, Interesting)

rgoer (521471) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262028)

That is to say, I love iTunes. It is the easiest, most pleasant way to organize and listen to your digital music collection. But did anybody notice the process monitor shot? iTunes is still sitting there taking almost twice the cycles of the notoriously-bloated-and-CPU-hogging MS Word. That's worse than the performance I got out of iTunes from two versions ago!

ohmygodohmygodohmygod (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6262045)

Oh please, please please let this be for real and not just photoshops or poorly compressed JPEGs wiping things out..

Could it be? It looks like.. but i'm not sure.. it could just be a trick of the compression..

THE PRISON STRIPES ARE GONE!

No more constant tv-pattern optical effects! No more fuzzy blurring headaches because my eyes are fucked up and i get massive groggy headaches after using mac os x for more than 30 minutes, becuase the constant horizontal gray lines-- and trying to read text on top of them-- leave my eyes unable to ever focus completely! No more searching all over the internet at every minor system update to find the updated versions of the hacked, third-party, reverse-engineered themes and theme systems that will work with the new system version! No more having to use shitty, amateurish themes that break shit and never work on more than one minor revision of OS X just so that i don't have to look at those fucking prison stripes and get horrendous groggy headaches!

The only way I could be happier is if they actually made this a customization option, with a range of different appearances, and added a feature to enable clear, draggable window borders, instead of having the window borders be near-invisible fuzzy-shadowed gray white lines (meaning there is no differentiation between different screen areas, thus making the screen one giant gray-white wash that makes focusing my eyes even harder...).

But I am so happy. I cannot WAIT for monday.

-- super ugly ultraman

spam filter. Where? (1)

Councilor Hart (673770) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262050)

"...enhanced spam filtering in Mail."
I don't see it. I see a a screenshot of mail, but nothing about spam filtering. Perhaps I am overlooking it. But for me, anyway, enhanced spam filtering means that the code/protocols/rules/databases/whatever with wich the filtering works is (being) improved. And such things can't be seen on a screenshot. Unless it's one of the sourcecode, I guess.
So how come the poster is claiming enhanced spam filtering is incorperated?

Meh... (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262054)

Same old shitty jelly/toothpaste-look with "cool" horizontal stripes all over the GUI. Seems like this is still treated as "news" though. :-P

Finally the one mouse button problem is solved. (0, Troll)

Krapangor (533950) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262061)

Everbody who has used a Mac once knows how it annoying it is to have only one mouse button.
Sometimes I wonder why Jobs had such a bad idea, where they assuming that Apple users can't distinguish right from left ?
However, they has fixed it in the new OS version.
And it's a good fix, too.
Instead of forcing users to buy new expensive two-button mice, they just created the second button on the desktop interface. Everytime you want to click the second mouse button you just have to move the mouse pointer over a little button icon and click on it. That's a pretty clever solution. Even better: with this technique you can install an arbitrary number of mouse button on your mouse. That's something MS Windows won't have for the next 10 years. In fact, propably for the next 20 year 'cos Apple is trying to pantent this stuff.

Wonder what these guys were looking at... (1)

citking (551907) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262066)

I noticed that the IChat and other various windows are censored.

I wonder if the screenshots were taken during the pr0n testing phase, or if a desperate wife was trying to "convince" her husband to come home and stop playing with Panther....

Why the waste of screenspace? (1)

Otis_INF (130595) | more than 10 years ago | (#6262086)

Am I the only one who thinks the shown application windows could be a lot smaller when the controls were positioned more elegantly and efficiently (screenspace wise) and without a lot of space between them?

Perhaps people who are not used to operate a computer with gui screens are confused with a lot of information on their screen but this way you need a lot of dialogs to display all the information simply because the dialogs can't contain a lot of info: most space on the dialog is simply not used. OR, apple is hiding a lot of info so you don't need a lot of dialogs because the total amount of information to show is not a hell of a lot.

Either way, the usage of screenspace like how its done in these screenshots is IMHO a waste of pixels. It can be done a lot more efficient. (look at the process viewer. A lot of space is wasted below the list by a total inefficient ordering of controls, so less space is reserved for the real data: the process list).

Early X11 applications also had this example of IMHO bad interface design.
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