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SCO Protest And Anti-Protest In Provo

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the please-stop-beating-my-wife dept.

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a.ameri writes "On Friday, June 20, the Provo Linux Users Group decided to head on over to SCO's offices and hold a protest; information on the event, including pictures and press coverage, can be found on the PLUG page. Among other things, the protesters claim that SCO employes came out and joined the event holding pre-prepared signs saying things like 'I love software piracy' and 'Try communism - use Linux.'" There are some funny shots linked here (thanks to reader lucif latum). Daddio64 points to the press covereage in the Deseret News and Provo Daily Herald.

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YOU IS TEH WHINNER!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269041)

Your prize is my fabulous nutz all up in ya mouf, baby!

MMMmmmmMMM Nutz!

Lets all join Hands (handles) (-1, Troll)

Chris_Stankowitz (612232) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269012)

In a protest against any more SCO articles on /.

Or at least have them all written by Weird Al to the tune of Billy Jean.

Re:Lets all join Hands (handles) (2, Interesting)

jmaatta (550428) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269035)

Maybe all this SCO stuff should be placed under its own topic. That would make ignoring it a lot easier.

Re:Lets all join Hands (handles) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269085)

Amazing that you get modded down as well. You make a dam good point. All see you all in Meta.

Troll, dude comon! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269052)

After 50 acrticles this is not a troll it IS Funny

You mods just enjoy modding people down more than up. If this were by an SC it would be an instant +5 funny.

I NEED HELP SLASHDOT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269018)

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Cunt
Beaver
Twat


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Re:I NEED HELP SLASHDOT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269025)

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Re:I NEED HELP SLASHDOT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269089)

Poontang, Pootie, or 'tang
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Re:I NEED HELP SLASHDOT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269093)

SCO?

Re:I NEED HELP SLASHDOT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269115)

Chesse burger, muffins, cornflakes, bacon, bush, fish flaps, lips

Re:I NEED HELP SLASHDOT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269142)

Cavernous void in which I lost my keys

Re:I NEED HELP SLASHDOT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269202)

I like "meat-canoe", I heard it on TV.

Original LWN discussion (5, Informative)

TRS-80 (15569) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269021)

The original post on LWN [lwn.net] containes a few comments on why the SCO people did this (ie they have a sense of humour).

Slashdot - stealing LWN stories for fun and profit since 1998

Re:Original LWN discussion (1)

dougmc (70836) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269189)

ie they have a sense of humour
Agreed. This is the classiest thing that SCO has done since this all started.

(It's not classy, but it's funny and it's not really unclassy. Everything else they've done is very unclassy, so this is the most classy. Did that make sense?)

All these stories and events miss the point (0, Troll)

fr0dicus (641320) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269027)

SCO Unix is a pain in the ass to use and the sooner it dies the better. Never mind the companies attitude, SCO Unix sucks!

Uh, note to SCO (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269033)

You're a corporation. You're supposed to keep quite and smirk at protesters. You do not allow your employees to come out and hold their own "anti protest", especially when a large percentage of the computing world think you're unbalanced anyway!

Earth to SCO. SCO come in now...I think we lost 'em.

Re:Uh, note to SCO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269064)

Any picture's of SCO employees actually holding those cards? I'm sure the RIAA would be interested in people who download all their music for free. I also suggest the police investigate SCO's PUBLIC ADMISSION OF SOFTWARE PIRACY!

Anyway film at 11...

Re:Uh, note to SCO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269122)

Any picture's of SCO employees actually holding those cards? I'm sure the RIAA would be interested in people who download all their music for free. I also suggest the police investigate SCO's PUBLIC ADMISSION OF SOFTWARE PIRACY!

No pictures, but there's more information available here [reference.com] .

Re:Uh, note to SCO (1)

zedmelon (583487) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269076)

I have a question:

I read that flyer, which allegedly dispells the assertion that IBM-contributed Linux contains SysV code. If that's not true, and SCO has zero case, why are they claiming they do? What is SCO's rationale for it?

Please tell me that it's a bit more than just a last-ditch attempt at saving a dying company.

Re:Uh, note to SCO (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269117)

Because that "flyer" is nothing but crap. SCO has what Paul Murphy describes as a slam dunk [linuxworld.com] victory lined up. This is really going to sting linux- I sure am glad that I switched to BSD. It wasn't really hard- once I figured out how to make the boot disks it went pretty smoothly. You could probably make the switch in a few days like me.

THANK GOD FOR OS X HUH YOU TROLLING ASSHOLE!?!? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269162)

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Re:Uh, note to SCO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269148)

It's not a corporation. The Internal Revenue Service has recognized the religious nature of the Church of SCOentology.

Mad? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269037)

Got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Download a 5mb file from here [sco.com] or launch an unspecified number of wget processes:

wget sco.com/images/pdf/eserver/eserver_sysadmin.pdf

This will teach you to administrate the SCO OpenLinux server, the only officially novell-compatible Linux distribution.

Re:Mad? (1)

miketang16 (585602) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269068)

Hahhaha they removed it!

Re:Mad? (1)

shibbydude (622591) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269074)

It says "document not found". I think they caught on to you.

Re:Mad? (1)

zedmelon (583487) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269092)

There have only been like 30 posts so far; betchya a dollar there's an admin there who reads /.

Re:Mad? (2, Funny)

GlassUser (190787) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269114)

This is rich. I think I am starting to like SCO. Kinda in the way you liked the nerd in middle school, and would save the special lunch money theft for him.

Re:Mad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269164)

Nah, this is just a repeat of one of the previous attempt to Slashdot SCO [slashdot.org] (some of which succeeded). Well, that link isn't from the first, but from some other. The file was renamed, but:

Download this 25+ MB file instead! [sco.com]

Re:Mad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269131)

The file was removed... already. Here's another...

A 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here [sco.com]

or wget: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip

Re:Mad? (1)

DarkSkiesAhead (562955) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269146)


The 5Mb file is gone. However, one thing they cannot remove is their front page. Nor the links on it. So, for all you vengeful linux users:

wget -r -nd --delete-after www.sco.com

Let that go for a while, stop when you want more bandwidth.

Astroturf. (1)

CrazyDuke (529195) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269038)

"Among other things, the protesters claim that SCO employes came out and joined the event holding pre-prepared signs saying things like 'I love software piracy' and 'Try communism - use Linux."

I guess SCO really isn't ashamed to outright astroturf.

pro-linux sco employees (5, Interesting)

stonebeat.org (562495) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269047)

I wonder how many SCO employees are actually pro-linux, but are afraid to say anything, against their own company......

Re:pro-linux sco employees (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269118)

Take a second look at the slogans and think if it that realy helps SCO to accuse IBM of supporting communism.

Re:pro-linux sco employees (2, Informative)

d3faultus3r (668799) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269133)

Quite a bit. If you look at the history of SCO, half the time they were working on Linux alongside UNIX. I'm sure a lot of SCO [sco.com] employees developed an affinity for Linux.

Re:pro-linux sco employees (4, Informative)

Jonner (189691) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269138)

Unless there's been a purge, I'm sure many of them are big GNU/Linux users, since that was one of the company's main products until a month or two ago.

at first.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269048)

At first when I read about signs saying Linux is communist, I thought it was Slashdot trolls protesting. :)

Slightly OT - The SCO dog ;) (3, Informative)

Daath (225404) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269049)

Userfriendly [userfriendly.org] has modified a Gary Larson (Farside) comic to fit SCO! It's quite funny!

Userfriendly is the most god awful thing ever (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269099)

I'd rather look at goatse

I hope Gary Larson sues Illiad (is that even his real name?) and makes him take down that shit-stain of the web.

Re:Slightly OT - The SCO dog ;) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269137)

User Friendly isn't funny normally. Now they're taking an existing copyrighted comic and "modifying" it, and it's still not funny.

If users are trying to get people to believe that the Linux community respects others' legitimately-owned intellectual property, then I think that strip ought to be taken down.

Re:Slightly OT - The SCO dog ;) (3, Insightful)

Otter (3800) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269207)

Fairly typical User Friendly: "I must write a strip ridiculing SCO and defending Linux users against accusations of ignoring the IP rights of others. But how? Got it -- I'll steal Gary Larson's old bit about what the dog hears! Except I'll modify it just enough to make it no longer make sense!"

And the readers see it and go, "Hey, I use Linux! And I know about SCO! And I know the original cartoon!"

Let Us Hope... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269050)

The signs made do not represent the staff of the current Operation, those signs look like they were made by the child with the "SUE ME I USE LINUX" sign.

invisible anti-protesters? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269053)

Either the anti-protesters are invisible, or just really really tiny. Surely they aren't cowards?

Finaly!! (-1)

n3r0.m4dski11z (447312) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269055)

ive been waiting for my fix for hours. ah its rushing to my brain... i feel like i feel like ahhh....

Image Problems? (4, Informative)

RWarrior(fobw) (448405) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269059)

I can't mirror the pictures, but when they get Slashdotted, the important text on the signs are below, since I can't mirror them.

It this really the image these people want to project?

  • "Legalize Stupidity - Smoke Linux"
  • "Give Communism A Try - Free Linux"
  • "Who's Down With IPOP - Other People's Intellectual Property" with Tux saying "I'm Down I'm Down"
  • "My Son Stole Code & Republished It (and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"
  • "I Don't Pay For Music - I Don't Pay For My O.S. Either - So Sue Me"
  • "Software Stealing Is Not A Crime - In Iraq And Parts of France"
  • "I [heart] Software Piracy" complete with Tux in a pirate outfit

Too bad I'm not an SCO shareholder. Maybe I could sue SCO management for permitting such stupid childishness on company time.

Re:Image Problems? (1)

stonebeat.org (562495) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269113)

i m not justifying any of these, but SCO employees have their right of free speech as well. SCO management can not stop them, nor do they have to.

Re:Image Problems? (2, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269126)

Of course, if the signs were dreamed up on company time, especially if they were thought up by marketing (they have that look about them) then it's not a free speech issue, it's a how are you spending money that could instead be used to raise stock prices issue.

Re:Image Problems? (1, Insightful)

sukottoX (601412) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269116)

I think these signs are absolutely outrageous! I'm shocked that this was allowed by the company. Now, instead of targeting IBM, all of these signs ridicule Linux and open source users in general! I use Linux... does that mean I'm a Communist, SCO? Does that make me stupid?

Allowing comments like these to be made publicly by employees is absolutly not the way to run a business.

Re:Image Problems? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269143)

I use Linux... does that mean I'm a Communist, SCO? Does that make me stupid?

Probably. It also means that you are a virgin and you live off of cheetohs and mountain dew.

Re:Image Problems? (4, Interesting)

cowmix (10566) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269158)

* "Give Communism A Try - Free Linux"

Hmm.. well is was Caldera riding on high on the capitalistic Linux
IPO craze of the late 90s that allowed them to purchase SCO thus
any usable IP left in SystemV code base. It was the promise of Linux
who bank rolled the whole thing. I think that anyone who bought
into their IPO because they thought they were investing in a Linux
company should get their money back.

Re:Image Problems? (1)

csteinle (68146) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269165)

"Give Communism A Try - Free Linux"


Which also has tux doing a Nazi salute and saying "Ya Vol". So, Communism==Nazism? Eh? And misspelt German is not the way to look clever. What a bunch of dumb fucks.

Re:Image Problems? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269195)

Hey idiot, its spellt "Ja Wohl".

Re:Image Problems? (1)

mccoma (64578) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269175)

just out of curiosity, does anyone own the trademark on Tux? If someone does, I sense an opportunity for some money for actions of a company's employees on company time.

Re:Image Problems? (1)

3.1415926535 (243140) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269209)

Linus owns the trademark on the name "Linux".

Re:Image Problems? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269179)

"Software Stealing Is Not A Crime - In Iraq And Parts of France"

psssst... always read the fineprint: The penguin says "But don't drop the soap, just in case"

Wanna by an insurance btw?

Re:Image Problems? (4, Funny)

Kaeru the Frog (152611) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269186)

"Who's Down With IPOP - Other People's Intellectual Property" with Tux saying "I'm Down I'm Down"

Naughty by Nature promptly treatened to sue SCO for unauthorized use of it copyrighted material. When asked what matereal exactly was copied, Naughty by Nature refused to say claiming if they disclosed they risked others also using it without their permission.

Re:Image Problems? (2, Funny)

netsharc (195805) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269198)

Legalize Stupidity alright, because at the moment SCO is breaking the law with copious amounts of it.

When you think about it... (0)

cscx (541332) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269199)

Some of these are just downright funny.

Why is it that some people from the Linux camp are all about free speech... that is, when the free speech is not targeted against them.

Re:Image Problems? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269200)

If you've ever been to an anti-war protest you know this kind of crap is par for the course.

Since I don't think invading a country on non-existant evidence and against the UN is good for America and since as an American obviously I want America to have a good standing in the world and a bright future I protested to show my belief that the current administration has America heading for the rocks but this apparently means I am a pot smoking hippy, a mao zedong worshipping commie, I give blowjobs to yassir arafat, I surrender while eating cheese and should just move to iraq.

I became all of these things simply because I don't want to see America smash onto the same rocks of empire-past that everyone from the Romans to the British and Ottomans have before us...

Still the pro-SCO protestors really sank about as low as it can get at this one...

Woah. (1)

RyanFenton (230700) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269066)

I'm getting a bit dizzy. I can't tell the spin from the sarcasm anymore. Any chance the fine folks from SomethingAwful [somethingawful.com] are behind any of this?

Ryan Fenton

IBM's Q&A about SCO, for the record (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269069)

actionable? (3, Interesting)

lophophore (4087) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269070)

Just wondering: Since some of those signs seem to imply that Linus is a thief, I wonder if he can now sue SCO for defamation???

More effective. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269071)

Wouldn't be more effective to combine anti-SCO activity and a twice daily /. SCO story by just changing all links to those stories to the SCO site and bankrupt them with high bandwith costs?

Re:More effective. (1)

d3faultus3r (668799) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269102)

Yes. everyone click on this [sco.com] . shlashdot and burn!

Re:More effective. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269182)

better yet, everybody:

ab -n 10000 -c 200 "http://www.sco.com/"

SCO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269072)

wow. even the employees are tards.

Re:SCO (1)

Alan Hicks (660661) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269214)

wow. even the employees are tards

Unfortunately, they probably just value their jobs. I'm sure the majority of people with children to feed and rent to pay would tote those signs around outside their place of employment if their boss said they were fired if they refused regaurdless of what your job description (if you have one) says.

Fasen vad bajsnödig jag är (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269078)

Helt galet bajsnÃdig. Usch!

Read this before bashing SCO (5, Informative)

Martin Kallisti (652377) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269079)

From the LWN page: This is sad... (Posted Jun 22, 2003 20:47 UTC (Sun) by erat) (Post reply) No, not the SCO folks who made the signs... It's the people who don't have a shred of humor left and, more importantly, weren't even there who seem to be take everything SCO employees touch as being an insult. I work across the street from SCO. I was at the protest. At one point, I was one of the people carrying a SCO-produced sign (as a JOKE. At one point I even saw picketters holding SCO signs). If you were there you'd know that the entire event -- albeit serious in its message -- was taken in good spirits by pretty much everyone. I'd be surprised if anyone seriously though the SCO signs were meant to be anything but fun. You remember FUN, don't you?? It's like when you're in a bar watching a football game and there are folks rooting for the other team in the bar with you; friendly "traitor" jabs are tossed back and forth, joking insinuations are made, and in the end you all laugh together and say "bye" when you leave. Here are some facts that some (all?) of you didn't get from the pictures: 1) It was very hot that day so Canopy provided drinks for everyone, including the protesters. And yes, protesters took them up on the drinks, and they even said "thanks". 2) SCO and Canopy employees (including Ralph Yarro and Darl McBride, among others) shared laughs with the picketters. No, I didn't see Chris Sontag or Blake Stowell out there, but I don't know them so I could have just missed them. 3) Darl, on his way home, stopped by the picketting near 1600 N. (he didn't have to; he could have driven by and nobody would have noticed) and chatted with the protesters. There are at least two pictures of him with his arms around a few of the protesters, and all of them are happy. Sorry folks, but other than a reporter who got heat stroke, the people who showed up had a good time. The folks there mixed with SCO, Canopy, etc. employees from around the office complex, had some fun with the "rivalry", and went on their merry way happy. At least that was my observation. The intent of the protest was to bring attention to the opinions of those who oppose SCO's actions, not to threaten, throw things, fight, or yell. In that regard, the protest was more successful than I would have hoped. Nobody walked away with a different opinion of SCO's actions, but people can disagree without hating each other. At least here in Utah they can.

Ok, I read it. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269119)

SCO still sucks.

Re:Read this before bashing SCO (1)

spydir31 (312329) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269147)

Formatting is often useful.

this is sad...


No, not the SCO folks who made the signs... It's the people who don't have a shred of humor left and, more importantly, weren't even there who seem to be take everything SCO employees touch as being an insult.

I work across the street from SCO. I was at the protest. At one point, I was one of the people carrying a SCO-produced sign (as a JOKE. At one point I even saw picketters holding SCO signs). If you were there you'd know that the entire event -- albeit serious in its message -- was taken in good spirits by pretty much everyone. I'd be surprised if anyone seriously though the SCO signs were meant to be anything but fun.

You remember FUN, don't you?? It's like when you're in a bar watching a football game and there are folks rooting for the other team in the bar with you; friendly "traitor" jabs are tossed back and forth, joking insinuations are made, and in the end you all laugh together and say "bye" when you leave.

Here are some facts that some (all?) of you didn't get from the pictures:

1) It was very hot that day so Canopy provided drinks for everyone, including the protesters. And yes, protesters took them up on the drinks, and they even said "thanks".

2) SCO and Canopy employees (including Ralph Yarro and Darl McBride, among others) shared laughs with the picketters. No, I didn't see Chris Sontag or Blake Stowell out there, but I don't know them so I could have just missed them.

3) Darl, on his way home, stopped by the picketting near 1600 N. (he didn't have to; he could have driven by and nobody would have noticed) and chatted with the protesters. There are at least two pictures of him with his arms around a few of the protesters, and all of them are happy.

Sorry folks, but other than a reporter who got heat stroke, the people who showed up had a good time. The folks there mixed with SCO, Canopy, etc. employees from around the office complex, had some fun with the "rivalry", and went on their merry way happy. At least that was my observation.

The intent of the protest was to bring attention to the opinions of those who oppose SCO's actions, not to threaten, throw things, fight, or yell. In that regard, the protest was more successful than I would have hoped. Nobody walked away with a different opinion of SCO's actions, but people can disagree without hating each other.

At least here in Utah they can.

NDA? (1)

ottothecow (600101) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269080)

wait so..they whipped out side by side linux and unix code WITHOUT you signing an NDA? I think thats is the exact negligence needed to void their rights to that code...hey I mean testify in court that you have a photographic memmory, just make sure to do it AFTER they show the code to the court hehe.

LINUX IS GUILTY OF SOFTWARE PIRACY! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269084)

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Commie Scare (3, Funny)

bstadil (7110) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269097)

Even though

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be !

it's hard not to feel a little sentimental when you see good old Commie Scare posters.

Guess the employees protesting felt akin to the Iraqs cheering Sadam at his strolling casual thru streets of Baghdad TV shows.

SCO employees (3, Funny)

mocm (141920) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269106)

Wouldn't SCO employees be better advised to write their resumees, instead of protesting. They probably will have to get new jobs soon. Not that they seem busy doing anything else.
And it doesn't matter whether SCO wins or loses. They seem to be an IP (not that they ever created any) only company now and would probably not need many employees, except for lawyers.

It's going to be awkward... (0)

tds67 (670584) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269110)

...for these SCO employees when they try to get Linux-related jobs after SCO goes belly-up.

Nooooo! :( (1)

ihatesco (682485) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269111)

One of the slogans is

'Try communism - use Linux.'"

Does it mean that I can't nickname SCO the Soviet Communist Operation anymore? :(

+ + + +
In truth I don't have anything against communist at all... well, in the country where I live, communism is something that would be better to encourage a bit more (hint: it's a western country with a madman chief of government obsessed with delusions of communist conspiracies trying to get him)

Also the economy is really stagnating, with companies trying to hire people for really brief amount of times, a rise in the "black jobs" (unregulated jobs with no taxes being payed on them), and major cuts on the wellfare state.

+ + + +
Ok, let's return to the point of the article...
it's good to have some groups of users tacking a civil protest to tell their upset against SCO's FUD tactics (not requests, maybe they are simply right from a legal standpoint, it's the tactic that SUCK anyway and in my opinion will not bring the IT market on SCO's side).

I'm wondering when we will begin to send them postcards or polite mails telling Darl and the others our opinion on the subject.
Anyone volounteering to do a first draft of a letter?
(My english sucks) + + + +
Finally SCO made the slashdot headlines again :)

LET'S MODERATE SCO DOWN!!!

Don't jump to conclusions about the SCO people... (2, Insightful)

mdb31 (132237) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269112)

I don't want to interrupt a perfectly good rant here, but you may want to follow the link in comment #6269021 (should be the FP in this thread if you're reading at a reasonable score treshold...). Idiotic though the whole SCO lawsuit is, the protest and counter-protest actually seemede quite friendly -- to quote a poster on the aforementioned LWN board:

It's the people who don't have a shred of humor left and, more importantly, weren't even there who seem to be take everything SCO employees touch as being an insult.

I work across the street from SCO. I was at the protest. At one point, I was one of the people carrying a SCO-produced sign (as a JOKE. At one point I even saw picketters holding SCO signs). If you were there you'd know that the entire event -- albeit serious in its message -- was taken in good spirits by pretty much everyone. I'd be surprised if anyone seriously though the SCO signs were meant to be anything but fun.

You remember FUN, don't you?? It's like when you're in a bar watching a football game and there are folks rooting for the other team in the bar with you; friendly "traitor" jabs are tossed back and forth, joking insinuations are made, and in the end you all laugh together and say "bye" when you leave.


You may want to read the rest of that message as well, and just give it a rest... Not if Slashdot hasn't dumped enough vitriol on SCO already lately.

Re:Don't jump to conclusions about the SCO people. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269176)

but you may want to follow the link in comment #6269021 (should be the FP in this thread if you're reading at a reasonable score treshold...).

Hey moron- you do realize that people can change the ordering around, right? In fact, if you don't have yours set to "highest scores first" then you are a bigger idiot that I first thought...

dear god... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269120)

those anti-protest signs look very racist. contrast them to the well thought out ones held by the LUG folks...

Phew! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269124)

For a minute I thought we were going to go the whole day without an article related to SCO! I'll sleep well tonight.

Another angle (0, Redundant)

madsatod (535808) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269128)

I stumled upon a comment (from some user erat) at http://lwn.net/Articles/37364/ :

"I work across the street from SCO. I was at the protest. At one point, I was one of the people carrying a SCO-produced sign (as a JOKE. At one point I even saw picketters holding SCO signs). If you were there you'd know that the entire event -- albeit serious in its message -- was taken in good spirits by pretty much everyone. I'd be surprised if anyone seriously though the SCO signs were meant to be anything but fun.

You remember FUN, don't you?? It's like when you're in a bar watching a football game and there are folks rooting for the other team in the bar with you; friendly "traitor" jabs are tossed back and forth, joking insinuations are made, and in the end you all laugh together and say "bye" when you leave.

Here are some facts that some (all?) of you didn't get from the pictures:

1) It was very hot that day so Canopy provided drinks for everyone, including the protesters. And yes, protesters took them up on the drinks, and they even said "thanks".

2) SCO and Canopy employees (including Ralph Yarro and Darl McBride, among others) shared laughs with the picketters. No, I didn't see Chris Sontag or Blake Stowell out there, but I don't know them so I could have just missed them.

3) Darl, on his way home, stopped by the picketting near 1600 N. (he didn't have to; he could have driven by and nobody would have noticed) and chatted with the protesters. There are at least two pictures of him with his arms around a few of the protesters, and all of them are happy.

Sorry folks, but other than a reporter who got heat stroke, the people who showed up had a good time. The folks there mixed with SCO, Canopy, etc. employees from around the office complex, had some fun with the "rivalry", and went on their merry way happy. At least that was my observation.

The intent of the protest was to bring attention to the opinions of those who oppose SCO's actions, not to threaten, throw things, fight, or yell. In that regard, the protest was more successful than I would have hoped. Nobody walked away with a different opinion of SCO's actions, but people can disagree without hating each other.

At least here in Utah they can."

Seems to put the SCO-signs in another perspective.

Wow (3, Insightful)

antiMStroll (664213) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269132)

I owe the Slashdot crowd an apology. Seeing that type of behaviour here, I thought it was a thousands high schoolers bashing away at a thousand library computers on their first, euphoric Internet high. But damn, professional adults stoop to this kind of bigoted, ad hominem baiting? Communism and Iraq? And France? Man, that's unbelievably depressing. All I can hope is potential future employers of these people see those signs before SCO does it's inevitable endo.

Communist Nazi's? (2, Insightful)

Warshadow (132109) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269140)

In the sign on the right in this picture:

http://www.kuwan.net/scoAntiProtest/scoAntiProte st -Pages/Image0.html

Is rather amusing. Not only do the folks at SCO apparently not have internet access, so they can use something like babelfish to look up the proper spelling of "ja vol" (ja wohl) they also seem to think Nazi's were communist instead of fascist?

Someone didn't do to well in their WW2 history class!

Re:Communist Nazi's? (1)

Warshadow (132109) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269169)

Doh! Sorry they spelled it "ya vol"

highly ironical ... (1)

porky_pig_jr (129948) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269153)

considering the fact SCO was selling their own LINUX distribution till recently. Now suddenly Linux = Communism. Stupid slogan, which reminds me the joke I saw somewhere, may be on theonion: 'If you download MP3, you support communism". Is this life immitating art or what?

Re:highly ironical ... (1)

aussersterne (212916) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269197)

I believe it was at Modern Humorist [modernhumorist.com] .

SCO violating copyright? (doc, not code) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269157)

From one of the comments after the Herald article:

Re: BRAVO to SCO!! (Score: 0)
by M. Leo Cooper on Sunday, June 22 @ 10:51:17 MDT
(User Info)

> All I can say is Bravo to SCO! This is a company with an important
> message about protection of intellecutal property in the U.S.

SCO is the one trying to steal intellectual property -- the work of thousands of Linux developers.

One example of this is an SCO server hosting a document of mine, without my permission:
http://docsrv.caldera.com:8457/en/Adv BashHowto/
SCO put their own navigation bar and company logo on this document, substantively changing it, which is a violation of copyright.
I have notified SCO three times about this, but they have not responded.

Note that unlike the author of the original comment, I have the courage to sign my name to this.

This would seem to be a bad thing for a company in SCO's position to be doing; I hope Mr. Cooper pursues the matter to court.

Who is really out for the free ride? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269161)

Wow, just reading the banners and recent comments from the SCO scumbags, it infuriates me more than anything I've seen from them before now. They're accusing people of taking a free ride when those people wrote the software. They're saying Linux just won't be free in future, misunderstanding the meaning of freedom, while showing their true intent. The only folks wanting a free ride are those at SCO who failed in their business and decided to litigate against people who wrote the competing software, none of which was ever created by SCO (formerly Caldera).

Who is really out for a free ride here? What a bunch of opportunistic scumbags, now theyr'e trying to push a deceptive media campaign with willfully deceptive comments that portray people in a collaborative software effort as pirates.

How dare they equate using Linux as the equivalent of piracy of any kind. If anyone is acting like pirates it's them. This is a brazen attempt to take something that simply does not belong to them.

Unprofessional (0)

3.1415926535 (243140) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269166)

Wow, talk about unprofessional conduct!

creative calculating, anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6269170)

Many if not all of SCO's SEC documents [sco.com] are online as PDFs.

I wonder what the cost is to SCO each time someone downloads (for instance) the Statement of Changes of Beneficial Ownership [shareholder.com] . Maybe you're interested in "changes of ownership" high muckymucks in SCO itself think are worth making. There's also the most recent quarterly report [shareholder.com] as well as many others.

Disapointed (1)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269173)

Where's the SCO pun ?

40,000 Lines...? (1)

26199 (577806) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269177)

Jason Hall, president of the Provo Linux users group, said Linux developers are willing to remove the 60 or 80 lines of code in question from the approximate total of 40,000 lines. (harktheherald.com)

That's got to be a typo, surely?... or is he talking about a specific part of the kernel?

This will NOT help SCO's... (3, Insightful)

chipster (661352) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269190)

case in the least bit. This proves their immaturity, and the fact that they cannot in any way, be taken seriously.

Analogizing drugs and Open Source is 13-year-old crap, and I'm sure ESR and others will have a ball with this.

Nice going SCO. Thanks for proving (in "graphic" detail) what kind of corporation you truly represent.

As bugs would say: (2, Funny)

conteXXt (249905) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269191)

"Of course you know, this means war!"

Prepared? What other kinds of signs are there? (2)

Pvt_Waldo (459439) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269192)

"Among other things, the protesters claim that SCO employes came out and joined the event holding pre-prepared signs saying things like 'I love software piracy' and 'Try communism - use Linux.'"

Erm, what other kinds are there? Ones that spontaneously draw themselves? I bet the protestors showed up with pre-prepared signs as well :^)

SCO can't distinguish Communism from nazi Germany. (1, Insightful)

Vellmont (569020) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269204)

Did anyone else find it extremely funny that the "Try Communism" sign has a penguin doing a sig heil and saying "ya vol"? Maybe if you're going to make a protest sign you should at least get your major points of history right ;).

This really is pointless for all parties. (5, Insightful)

rdewald (229443) | more than 11 years ago | (#6269212)

For the sake of discussion, let's assume the case has merit. The Linux community will rewrite the improperly used code, redesigning it if need be, craft tools to migrate everyone over to it, and go on. This is open source, utter transparency, no secrets. They can't go after every line of the current kernel, we know that, and there's more than one way to do everything.

SCO will be soon be a shell company. They might as well be making buggy whips. I think this is the ultimate agenda of the leadership, they just hope to cash out with the settlement from IBM.

It was interesting to me how the PR folks tried to associate Linux with software piracy and communism. I don't think this is because of a real misperception on their part, it seems much more likely to be spin-directed FUD. It's more pathetic than enraging to me.

It really all seems like a legal strategy to exploit the fact that our IP laws have not really caught up with the PC revolution. They might get some money from IBM, if they do, they leverage their legal victory and liquid revenues to bump the stock price and sell the company. It won't fool Warren Buffet or Peter Lynch, but there are still plenty of fools with money in the world.

This type of business strategy--utterly bereft of moral values--has not yet entirely faded from view. The real tragedy is not the threat to Linux, but the threat to SCO employees and investors. I don't see this working out well for them in any way. Some lawyers will get rich, though.

So, follow the money. SCO is now a lawsuit machine. IBM will survive this no matter how it turns out. SCO won't.
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