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Jaguar is Over

pudge posted more than 11 years ago | from the sir-my-mac-is-on-sir dept.

OS X 835

Steve Jobs announced the end of Jaguar, and the newness of Panther, today at his WWDC keynote address. Panther is to be available as a preview release now, and by the end of the year retail, for $129.Mac OS X 10.3 / Panther has 100 major new features, according to Jobs. Lower-level enhancements include NFS file locking, built-in X11, FreeBSD 5.0, IPsec-based VPN, and various SMB and Active Directory enhancements.

The Panther Finder is brand-new, with a new brushed metal appearance, and enhanced column view, with the items used most commonly in the far left column. Searching is "live" and a lot faster, and is more user-centric instead of computer-centric.

The Finder now has labels, and icons can resize with window resizing.

The iDisk now caches itself locally, so it can be used offline, and the user can copy to and from it more efficiently (with the real copies happening in the background).

A new feature called Expose allows minimizing into a smaller window, all open windows, to temporarily move everything out of the way, sort of like workspaces.

File Vault can encrypt a user directory and decrypt it "on the fly."

Faxing is now built-in, and available system-wide.

Pixlet is a new compression codec that does video compression without noticable artifacts, for 48 bits per pixel: at 960x540 and 24 fps, can be decoded on a 1GHz Power Mac.

Preview is significantly faster, with searching, and PS to PDF conversion.

Panther features fast user switching, a feature in Windows XP, allowing under-one-second (on the demo machine) switching between two different users.

FontBook is a new "pro" app for font management.

iChat AV is an update to iChat that does audio and video conferencing in addition to text, that works with any built-in or USB mic, and any DV video camera, connecting using only a user's screen name. It is going to beta today, and will be included in Panther, and will be sold for $29 to Jaguar users. Apple will sell iSight for $149, a small camera that does audio and video over FireWire.

Apple is preparing a new set of developer tools called XCode, which works with GCC 3.3, does distributed compiles (using available resources on the network), and has other cool stuff. It is fast, it has improved searching (like the Finder, and over entire projects), and it looks like an iApp (though it isn't metal). It removes the need to link; onnly link objects you need to launch. It starts compiling while you are editing, cutting the time you need to compile drastically. It can modify the program while it is running.

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fp w00t!! (-1, Funny)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275290)

fp fp!!

Had to say it... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275304)

Jaguar is dead? Hmmm, I figured it would have nine lives.

Apple store offline for updates!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275448)

apple store down for updates.

Re:Had to say it... (1)

Zane Edwards (562074) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275571)

Yeah, puma, cheetah, jaguar and now panther...5 more to go.

Re:Had to say it... (4, Funny)

yroJJory (559141) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275588)

Jaguar had 10.2.6 lives.

What no 970 (1)

stanmann (602645) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275306)

I was really hoping for the 970. Well, at least we get a new version of OSX. And it has a cool new name too.

Only about half-way through keynote (1)

nether (221468) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275338)

So we haven't even gotten to the "There's one more thing ...."

Re:What no 970 (1)

0000 0111 (141160) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275364)

It's not over yet.

Re:What no 970 (1)

wezelboy (521844) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275366)

Jobs is still talking.... any minute now he'll spill the beans.

Re:What no 970 (1)

Basehart (633304) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275368)

Patience glasshopper

Re:What no 970 (1)

thesatirist (532124) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275384)

macobserver's live feed is reporting that the specs leaked from the store were accurate.

Re:What no 970 (1)

Rexifer (81021) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275394)

If you're reading the live commentary, there's an interesting quote:

* Jobs says "Maybe some of you noticed something on the Net ... funny thing happened on our Web site. Premature specification. It was a mistake, and it is true."

Re:What no 970 (3, Funny)

killmenow (184444) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275549)

I never knew Jobs suffered from Premature Specification!

Re:What no 970 - Live Broadcast Here at IBM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275442)

Considering they're showing the speech live in the cafeteria here at the one of the IBM PPC design sites, I bet the 970 gets mentioned.

Breaking news... (2, Informative)

jared_hanson (514797) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275459)

The leak on the Apple store website was true, and Jobs just admitted it in the process of announcing the new G5. Check MacCentral [macworld.com] for live updates on the keynote.

It's TRUE !!!! (4, Interesting)

nether (221468) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275481)

1.6 Ghz -- 800 Mhz FSB
1.8 Ghz -- 900 Mhz FSB
Dual 2.0 Ghz -- 1 Ghz FSB ...

Straight from his Stevie-ness.

Here comes the 970 (1)

ulbador (541826) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275483)

From the Apple Store:

We are busy updating the store for you and will be back within the hour.

Re:What no 970 (1)

Black-Man (198831) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275584)

Some of us recent purchasers of Power Macs actually breathed a sigh of relief.

must have (0, Troll)

susehat (558997) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275313)

Must Have. Must get NeXTSTEP 7.0 Panther.

blowing your load early? (-1, Redundant)

Juanvaldes (544895) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275316)

Wanna wait for him to finish first?

Re:blowing your load early? (0, Offtopic)

imadork (226897) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275397)

Wanna wait for him to finish first?

Of course not, this is slashdot, after all.

And BTW, the lone gunmen died, in case you haven't heard yet...

Re:blowing your load early? (1, Funny)

OmniVector (569062) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275439)

*gets napkin*

too late :(

Re:blowing your load early? (2, Informative)

RestiffBard (110729) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275507)

No. Lets see, I've got Slashdot, MacNN and MacCentral all reloading every few minutes. And of course when Jobs is done I'll watch the quicktime stream. here [akadns.net]

Jaguar is dead... (4, Funny)

goldspider (445116) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275328)

...but did Netcraft confirm it?

I'm sorry, but someone had to say it!

your sig (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275454)

I clicked the link in your sig, but I'm telling you, it really really had me on the goatse defensive fingers pre-positioned on alt+f4

Take another look at it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275538)

...and tell me that you weren't in fact had ;)

Re:your sig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275590)

try placing your hand over the center of the monitor. that works much better.

Re:Jaguar is dead... (5, Funny)

Smitty825 (114634) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275487)

No, but the number of posts regarding Jaguar has died on the newsgroups...it's just a logical conclusion. (Wasn't Jaguar related to a *BSD anyway?) :-)

Simply Amazing (0, Redundant)

jimmy_dean (463322) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275331)

Simply amazing, I love it. Can't wait until I can afford to buy a Mac (after the college bills stop happening).

Re:Simply Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275466)

Can I ask you what was so amazing in that list above? I read through it and couldn't help buy yawn.

Re:Simply Amazing (2, Funny)

bahamat (187909) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275514)

Simply amazing, I love it. Can't wait until I can afford to buy a Mac (after the college bills stop happening).
-> Sometimes, you just gotta break free from the shackles of proprietary code.


What an odd mix, your post directly contradicts your sig. Rarely have I seen such blatant foolery.

Re:Simply Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275555)

Well, he does say "sometimes". Guess not in this case.

Ironic Sig (3, Funny)

Nutcase (86887) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275565)

-> Sometimes, you just gotta break free from the shackles of proprietary code.

And othertimes, apparently, you have to drop 2-3k on the most proprietary home computer available.

The nicest Unix front-end ever? (1, Insightful)

ites (600337) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275334)

1. Make pretty GUIs and lovely gadgets 2. ??? 3. Profit!!! Actually, it's a pretty damn good business plan.

Damn, I need new hardware for first post! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275335)

Darn it! I was hoping to be able to buy a new 970-based PowerMac to be able to get first post faster!

Had to be first, didn't you? (2, Insightful)

DAQ42 (210845) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275339)

Dude, the keynote isn't even over yet, and you're posting to the site about the news. Geez, talk about jumping the gun...

Ugh! Another $129 x 2 Machines! (2, Insightful)

dochood (614876) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275344)

Ugh!

Another upgrade! I just bought Jaguar for one machine about two months ago!

Got to do it, though.... too much cool stuff in Panther to just pass by.

dochood

Re:Ugh! Another $129 x 2 Machines! (4, Informative)

Roofus (15591) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275457)

If the Apple store was up right now, I'd point you to the "Family License" version that costs $199, and is good for up to 5 computers.

Re:Ugh! Another $129 x 2 Machines! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275480)

Typical Apple user. Doesn't like Microsoft or Linux, but is to dumb to stop using Apple products and gladly forks out $$$ for mostly free code.

No! Don't do it! (1)

eMartin (210973) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275503)

"Got to do it, though...."

They are only charging you because they know that!

Apple has now both raised the price and shortened the time in between paid OS upgrades. Keep paying for them, and soon you be shelling out $200 every 6 months.

For years, people have been saying "Apple is a hardware company. They make software to get people to buy Macs" and that's fine with me, but I'm not going to start paying them for every piece of software and service they put out until they work on my PC hardware too.

wheres the G5's (0, Redundant)

Cromulent (117530) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275346)

I want them now so I can get one!

FreeBSD 5.0 as a lower-level enhancement? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275355)

Per above "Lower-level enhancements include NFS file locking, built-in X11, FreeBSD 5.0, " Now that is what I call an enhancement! Running an OS inside an OS, hummmm emulation?

Re:FreeBSD 5.0 as a lower-level enhancement? (1)

dochood (614876) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275405)

Don't they mean the new version is BASED on 5.0...? It was an earlier version before (4.7? 4.8?)

dochood

blah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275359)

blah

Uhm... (1, Funny)

Daath (225404) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275362)

Jaguar is renamed to Panther Full Speed, Panther is now called Panther High Speed - It was coded by Incas, what do you expect.
Ok, that was quite bad.

Re:Uhm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275426)

Yup, that's pretty lame. There'll be another story coming along soon about new hardware -- why don't you prepare a less lame witticism in advance?

keynote (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275365)

is a faggyass word.

XCode (1)

Gortbusters.org (637314) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275367)

Will there be a titilating IDE to go with it? Hmmm, that's good squishy!

Re:XCode (2, Informative)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275575)

Will there be a titilating IDE to go with it?

Yes, it has a predictive compiler; compiles as you write. The demoed compile was ~ 10x faster (they also did away with linking somehow).

WWDC (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275369)

WWDC? What's that? Wil Wheaton Dot Com?

Yesterday's technology at tomorrow's prices (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275374)

You get a new, ugly Finder, enhancements that weren't revolutionary in 1996 (folder labeling? built-in faxing?), and a few little apps, all for the low, low price of $129.

Congratulations. Enjoy your Mac Tax.

(Oh, you don't have to upgrade if you don't want to? What happens when $NEW_COOL_APP requires Mac OS X 10.3?)

Can you imagine. . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275375)

Nevermind..

Apple Store (1)

nightsweat (604367) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275381)

Has a message on the site -

"We are busy updating our store and will be back within the hour."

Very Impressive (5, Interesting)

ajiva (156759) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275382)

OSX is definitly very, very impressive. With regular updates (every ~6-9months), Apple will be so far ahead before Longhorn comes out, that MS might actually have to try to compete! All I can say is that as a long time PC fan, way to go Apple

Let me be the first to say... (5, Insightful)

jocknerd (29758) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275388)

What about an upgrade price for Panther? I just spent $129 last fall for Jaguar.

Re:Let me be the first to say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275423)

I'll be getting my upgrade from Usenet if there's no upgrade price. I already overpaid for a laptop by $1,000, damned if they're getting another $129.

~~~

Where are the G5? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275389)

Where are the G5s?

Once again, Apple has blew it.

Re:Where are the G5? (1)

Dan Berlin (682091) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275410)

He's announcing them right now. If the submitter hadn't blew his load, it would have been one big story.

Re:Where are the G5? (1)

mkelley (411060) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275464)

You can read the timeline here [macobserver.com] . It's an IBM chip.

Re:Where are the G5? (1)

kalidasa (577403) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275506)

A little early there, tiger. The G5s are showing NOW.

Re:Where are the G5? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275579)

why don't you wait for him to finish TALKING before saying things like this, troll?

Once again, you blew it.

but does it play ogg??? (1)

Thinkit3 (671998) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275392)

Damn big businesses and their $0.99 "marketing prices", don't even notice open projects.

SHIT! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275396)

SHIT! Ive never seen so much crap in one article on slashdot. I mean GOD - Why the FUCK does anyone care. The software is SHIT. The OS looks like a 10 cent HOOKER that you have to pay $130 to get a HAND JOB from. WTF!

Wheres the Uni-bomober when you need him. He could take out soo many mac users in a single blow. Instead, they'll all line up to give Steve jobs a BLOW JOB one at a time. Dumb idiots. Zealots. They make RMS look like a kind jovial person - like he likes commerical software.

It is such a sorry state of afiars.

In soviet russia, Steve Jobs would SUCK us off!

PORPS TO GABE AND MAUS.

This will be another solid update (5, Insightful)

dtolton (162216) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275404)

Microsoft should (but won't) take a page from Apple's book. You can as a company, co-exist peacefully with the Open Source community. Apple has put themselves in a great position IMO for the future. Their releases add actual features, making people *want* to upgrade instead of forcing them to. It's a beautiful thing, because you can still use OS 10.0 if you want to, but they add so many features, bells, whistles and in general cool stuff - people really want to get the newest version of their software.

Kudos to Apple for that.

Re:This will be another solid update (2, Interesting)

Blue Lozenge (444566) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275542)

It's a beautiful thing, because you can still use OS 10.0 if you want to, but they add so many features, bells, whistles and in general cool stuff - people really want to get the newest version of their software.

I wish it were that simple. If you want to run the latest applications, then no, you can't use OS 10.0. Most apps require 10.2, and almost all others require 10.1.

Re:This will be another solid update - correction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275564)

It's a beautiful thing, because you can still use OS 10.0 if you want to
crawl.

Steve Jobs plan (1, Troll)

jlechem (613317) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275411)

10 add new nifties to OS
20 call it an upgrade
30 Charge 130 bucks for it
40 PROFIT!!
50 goto 10

Not to troll but these upgrades always remind me of service packs for windows. And they seem to come out just as often.

Re:Steve Jobs plan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275485)

Service Packs are free, though.

Re:Steve Jobs plan (1)

hatrisc (555862) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275574)

Not to troll but these upgrades always remind me of service packs for windows. And they seem to come out just as often.

just as often? at least mac waits a year before upgrading, didn't windows xp have a service pack on the day of it's release?

Berlin WWDC blog provides fresh experience (4, Funny)

Damek (515688) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275412)

There's a blog from the Berlin conference at OnlineBlog, Guardian Online's Blog [onlineblog.com] . It's kind of amusing (since I'm not there), as it seems a storm has knocked out the satellite feed, and they're watching the QuickTime stream, and alternately getting drunk...

Predictive Compiling (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275413)

Xcode:
Completely new set of Developer Tools. Speedy: fast compiles using GCC 3.3, Finder UI built (over 100,000 lines of code) in 377 seconds on a Dual 1GHz G4. Distributed builds can speed building by using other machines on a network (built in 208 seconds with an extra machine and 96 seconds with four machines). Zero Link only links objects needed to launch. Predictive Compile literally starts compiling before the program is told to compile. Fix and Continue can make changes to apps while they are running. A single fix turnaround in Xcode takes about 3 seconds on average.

[source: http://www.4osx.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1449 ]

Proof Apple is still not enterprise ready... (0, Interesting)

Ciderx (524837) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275434)

Its insanity to kill off an OS after 1 year. How on earth are you meant to develop the system, deploy and support these OSes if they are forcing upgrades all the time. The only place these have is in home machines where they don't have these enterprise considerations. If Microsoft did this sort of thing, they'd be rightly roasted on here...

Apple Store (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275437)

The apple store is being updated, i think were about an hour away from having our collective socks blown off.

i am geek, hear me roar.

1 GHz front bus! (1)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275438)

Wooo-hoooo! The rumours were true!

Apple + PPC970 = True! (4, Interesting)

Jon Abbott (723) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275440)

Steve Jobs just confirmed at the WWDC Keynote [macworld.com] that Apple systems with the PPC970 are a reality! No word yet on availability.

APPLE STORE IS DOWN! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275444)

i guess we are getting some new toys... hmmm i can't hit refresh fast enough

duh--- they just announced the G5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275445)

ALWAYS wait for the "one more thing"!

Dear Apple (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275446)

Dear Apple,

I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

with much gayness,

Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.

What? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275447)

Jaguar is based on freebsd, jaguar is dead, this is a sure sign that bsd death is imminent.

thankyousirmayihaveanother? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275456)

FreeBSD 5.0

Huh? That doesn't make much sense. Perhaps they've integrated more code from FreeBSD [freebsd.org] , but FreeBSD 5.1 has been out for some time now.

WTF is the $129 price tag for? Can you imagine the uproar if Microsoft were to charge $129 for minor version upgrades, then immediately announce the previous version was "over" and force everyone to upgrade?

Re:thankyousirmayihaveanother? (1)

cenobita (615440) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275520)

While it's true that FreeBSD 5.1 has been out for awhile now, it's still technically a sort of -STABLE release..otherwise, the 4.x branch would've been killed already. As things currently stand, they may still take things as far as 4.9 or 4.10, last I heard.

Re:thankyousirmayihaveanother? (0, Flamebait)

jkeyes (243984) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275576)

But you forget this is Apple and they're allowed to have a monopoly on their own hardware and give deliberately monopolistic terms on their Operating System (not permitted on non Apple Hardware anyone?) and force upgrades every year at $129. When MS released Windows 98 SE they allowed Windows 98 users to upgrade for $20 if they wanted to, it wasn't even forced. (If you paid the $20 MS sent you an upgrade disc)

G5 (1)

Councilor Hart (673770) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275473)

They have been announcec.
64 bit, will run old 32 bit apps

More pay for updates? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275491)

Most of this stuff should be free for download.
I hate to say this, but apple may be shooting itself in the face with this update.
Combined with people who paid for Jaguar, that brings the OS update cost to ~300dollars US??

Some people claim M$ is greedy...
I just see Apple floundering...

Let's here it for the Mac user base! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275493)

As always, providing an excellent example of Helsinki Syndrome.

New developer tools (1)

superspoon (644792) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275498)

I'm scared, I just learned how to use the current ones :(

Dear Pudge Facker (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275499)

Dear Father Pudge O'Day:

Thanks for your letter. Being Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're talking about! It has always been our plan here at Apple Computer Inc to revolutionize personal computing with our high-quality and highly gay products.

I'm happy to answer your letter by letting you know that YES we will be releasing an entire hLife ("homo-life") software line. You'll be able to recognize it in stores by the small stylized logo depicting a large cock entering a tight anus with an Apple logo on it. ("Suddenly it all comes together" indeed!).

Anyway, I hope you and other members of our community will join us on our mission, and purchase the exciting new hLife boxed set. Only the boxed set comes with translucent cock rings!

Sincerely,

Harry Rodman
Vice-president
Homosexual Liaison Services
Apple Computer, Inc.

G5!!!!W0W0W0T0T00T00T01!!!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275515)

G5!!!!W0W0W0T0T00T00T01!!!!!!!!G5!!!!W0W0W0T0T00T0 0T01!!!!!!!!G5!!!!W0W0W0T0T00T00T01!!!!!!!!G5!!!!W 0W0W0T0T00T00T01!!!!!!!!G5!!!!W0W0W0T0T00T00T01!!! !!!!!G5!!!!W0W0W0T0T00T00T01!!!!!!!!

...at least according to Macnn's [macnn.com] live coverage

woohoo faxes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275523)

now i'm gonna upgrade my Apple GayBook for only 130 dollars and I'll be able to send faxes like a fax machine.

About time... (1)

micq (266015) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275529)

A new feature called Expose allows minimizing into a smaller window, all open windows, to temporarily move everything out of the way, sort of like workspaces.

Thank you! It was a pain in the ass to have everything exploded on the desktop and not have an easy way of reducing everything to see the desktop...

G5's announced (3, Informative)

alfredo (18243) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275530)

Apple shows off the worlds fastest PC with three things: chip (G5), system, product. The G5 has some amazing properties: it's a 64-bit processor, runs up to 2GHz, and has a 1GHz front-side bus. It offers full SMP ("designed entirely for SMP"). The G5 has a the industry's highest bandwidth using an entirely new architecture. It has a 12 unit core with 2 FPUs.

What comes next after Jaguar and Panther... (3, Funny)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275544)

OS X 10.4 = Bengal
OS X 10.5 = Lion

And then Apple will have to move to the non-feline NFL franchises. Names to look forward to are Titan, Giant, Jet, Raider, Buccanneer, Eagle, Falcon and Raven but Packer, Ram, 49er, Colt, Redskin and Seahawk don't sound too good.

Something tells me that they won't ever be using Bill though.

Brushed Metal Appearance (5, Funny)

Talking Goat (645295) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275556)

"The Panther Finder is brand-new, with a new brushed metal appearance..."
Well, then it must be better! It looks like the future! Ooohh, shiny...

G5 is announced (1)

ljaguar (245365) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275557)

11:10 AM - the G5 has some amazing properties. 1) It is 64 bit (as mentioned). Runs 32-bit apps nativly. 2) runs at up to 2Ghz 3) 1ghz frontside bus. but we knew all this already.

11:09 AM - World's fastest PC is here. There are three things. Chip, System, Product. The chip is the 970 (g5). 64-bit. Made by IBM. Screw Motorola.

11:09 AM - It's true!

11:08 AM - Here are the g5's. He's talking about the leak.... Was it true?

Less is More? (1)

0000 0111 (141160) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275570)

IBM VP says it "costs $3 billion to fab this thing" because they "shrunk the gate length to 6 atomic units."

G5 (1)

svenjob (671129) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275578)

All the rumors and leaks about the specs of the G5 were true.

Panther problems (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275581)

I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Mac fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Mac with Panther preview (a 8600/300 w/64 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this Mac, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

In addition, during this file transfer, Netscape will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even BBEdit Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.

I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various Macs, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Mac that has run faster than its Wintel counterpart, despite the Macs' faster chip architecture. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 300 mhz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that the Macintosh is a superior machine.

Mac addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a Mac over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.

I'm sadly disapointed this year. (1)

danalien (545655) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275585)

What ever happened to their live webcast feed? since 1745 (live in sweden, thats GMT+1) I've hit their website for an update to get the url for the feed, but sadly none is available this year :(

I've even gone to the trouble of booting up a windows pc (cause I'm a linux-boy), incase my mplayer with the !Live.com library won't work, so I have a backup, to catch his keynote Live.

So to say the least, I'm sadly disapointed on them this year. Though not in the case if something extra unordinary tradically happened, in that case I would be forgiving, but just in such a case :P

$129 is not too bad (1)

phalse phace (454635) | more than 11 years ago | (#6275586)

When you compare it to the $199 (retail) price you pay for a Windows XP Pro upgrade. I wonder if they'll have another "X for Teachers [apple.com] " program where they'll give away a free copy of the OS to every K-12 teacher in the U.S?

YOW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6275589)

slashdot reader watches keynote

slashdot reader sees new stuff from apple.

slashdot reader shits self. twice.

* even if you never touch an apple product in your life, you have to admit they are the only place REAL user-centric innovation is happening!
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