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GNU/Linux bootable CD on XBOX: dyne:bolic

CmdrTaco posted about 11 years ago | from the getting-easier-and-easier dept.

XBox (Games) 261

jaromil writes "The dyne:bolic bootable CD distribution is almost getting to its final 1.0 release, includes a whole bunch of multimedia applications making it easy to edit and stream audio and video, encrypt mails, share p2p and of course play games, all with a fancy GNUStep desktop. download the 1.0 alpha 5 ISO (~350Mb) and try it on your PC or XBOX!" One more reason to mod an xbox.

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261 comments

best of both worlds? (4, Interesting)

sweeney37 (325921) | about 11 years ago | (#6284266)

would this work with the 007 Hack [slashdot.org] ?

Mike

Re:best of both worlds? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284493)

Personally, I like CD based Knoppix available at Knoppix.org or its variant clusterKnoppix. ...Yes, it is fun to run your own clustering supercomputer with multiple clusterKnoppix machines on a LAN!... Thank you, Moshe Barr (MOSIX) for the seamless clustering...

I digress, both Knoppixes are clean and most usable from a Windows standpoint. Except for the availablity of full MS Office compatibility, they would make an excellent replacement for Windows.

I will try this version of Linux to see how it works out. Though they are probably slashdotted at the moment. Does this Linux have clustering (MOSIX)?

Re:best of both worlds? (1)

rasteri (634956) | about 11 years ago | (#6284508)

Yeah, actually. Just flash the TSOP as described and it should work fine (plus you'll be able to play all other "homebrew" XBOX apps too).

Re: work with 007 hack (3, Informative)

dhm4 (584969) | about 11 years ago | (#6284559)

sure it will. just set the write enable pin of the xbox-flash, run the savegame & flash the bios the way you like it.
there is already a new savegame exploit for the M$-game MechAussault, that also updates the xbox-live runtime. perhaps the dashboard is exploitable too & linux gets _independent_ from a modchip or hardware modifications.

Happy Anniversery (-1, Offtopic)

Wire Tap (61370) | about 11 years ago | (#6284267)

Jennifer, it has been a pleasure to have met you. I love you.

Re:Happy Anniversery (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284278)

I'd call you a looser, but it appears that you might actually have a womoan in your life that is not your mother. What the hell, LOOSER!! :P

Re:Happy Anniversery (0, Offtopic)

ramdac (302865) | about 11 years ago | (#6284359)

"Loser" only has one O in it. Loser.

For an explanation on the PROPER spelling of loser, see HERE:

http://www.stickimup.com/modules.php?name=News&fil e=article&sid=1&mode=&order=0&thol d=0 [stickimup.com]

Re:Happy Anniversery (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284421)

Actually, I was under the impression that "looser"'s proper spelling was LINUX

Re:Happy Anniversery (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284507)

unless of course you're talking about a dumb user, then it's spelled luser. ;)

Re:Happy Anniversery (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284285)

Why the hell doesn't the lameness filter smack stuff like this?

Re:Happy Anniversery (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284306)

You're gonna get down to -1000000 from all the jealous/lonely /.ers out there.

YOU SO FUCKING FAIL IT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284331)



In Soviet Russia, your bride was pretty cheap!

This Frosty Piss is for my woman (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284574)

I love you Sheri! You are the greatest! Let's keep it real babay!!! I am so glad I found a wife who is into water sports just like I am. It's so hard to find a girl who likes getting pissed on. True love for evar.

FP (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284269)

w00t w00t w00t w000t

ebaYa Maasl lsoooe e!
Xbox is your mmommmmommooo l2332232ll a!

FIRST POST!!!! (4, Interesting)

AlexMax2742 (602517) | about 11 years ago | (#6284276)

Thanks, but I would rather wait until the "Xbox Live 2.0" comes out.

Just in case they figured out how to foil current mod chips this time. I still would prefer to use my Xbox for online gaming *gasp* than as a Linux box.

Re:FIRST POST!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284301)

Next time, I suggest supporting a free online gaming experience, and not a single man's desire for control of the world markets in everything from cable TV to Internet service.

Thank you.

MOD PARENT UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284418)

This is in no way incorrect. Please stop moderation trolling.

BILL GATES WILL ATTEMPT TO TAKE OVER ALL MARKETS and you FUCKING MORONS will allow it to happen.

Heres some ideas (4, Interesting)

HanzoSan (251665) | about 11 years ago | (#6284318)

Why cant we try to use Wine or something like it to trick the Xbox into running the Microsoft gaming live software from withinn Linux?

Second, if its done right people might use Xbox Linux, if its useful, it depends on how its done. Overall though I'd use it to promote Linux, as a marketing technique.

Linux needs marketing, so that when the time comes a year or two from now, when Longhorn is released, Linux can take the market or at least be competitive, people have to actually know what Linux is though, as of right now people either dont know what it is, or they believe a bunch of myths about it being a hackerOS.

Re:Heres some ideas (1)

Gortbusters.org (637314) | about 11 years ago | (#6284356)

Why would you want to mod the XBox to run Linux so you can run Windows and play games the games you could without the MOD?

I don't think XBox support is going to win over many people. Linux IS popular now as a sever platform (Redhat's survival in the market place is a testament to this).

Sounds like you need GNUBox (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284431)

I am appalled at the excitment that the idea of running GNU/Linux on a closed and proprietary system such as the XBox has caused. We at the GNU Project have the answer, and have been working on connection with OpenCores [opencores.org] to produce the GNUBox console for all your GNU/Linux and The GNU/HURD requirements.

GNUBox version 0.14af2_1-1 is now available, and comprises of a blank sheet of mylar with a single -12v DC power line and a ground trace. We expect the hardware to be completed at around the same time as the Earths internal nuclear reactions cease and the planet cools and shrinks to a size of an Apple.

Yours GNU'ly

RMS

well, kiddie (1)

HanzoSan (251665) | about 11 years ago | (#6284542)

Why would you want to modify your already configured Windows box to run Linux?

I mean choice isnt important as long as it works just use it right??RIGHT?

Re:Heres some ideas (4, Funny)

hobbesmaster (592205) | about 11 years ago | (#6284596)

Why would you want to mod the XBox to run Linux so you can run Windows and play games the games you could without the MOD?


You must be new here.

Re:FIRST POST!!!! (3, Informative)

/ASCII (86998) | about 11 years ago | (#6284320)

Most modern mod-chips come with the option of switching to the original BIOS instead. Microsoft can still check you HDD for strange-looking software, and out of spec HDDs, but the bios mod should be fine.

Re:FIRST POST!!!! (1)

bjschrock (557973) | about 11 years ago | (#6284466)

You can even "lock" the HDD like the one that came w/ the XBox and hide the extra space. Sure, there are still ways for M$ to detect if you've done something to it; it is their hardware after all. But as always, there will be a way around it... On mine, I have a switch that will either start up the XBox in it's (almost) out-of-the-box mode or modded.

And just IMAGINE (5, Funny)

zedmelon (583487) | about 11 years ago | (#6284284)

It's quite invigorating browsing interactive pr0n with the Xbox controls.

sweeeeeeeeeeet.

Re:And just IMAGINE (1)

llamalicious (448215) | about 11 years ago | (#6284349)

mmmmmmmm... force feedback /homer

Re:And just IMAGINE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284374)

"It's quite invigorating browsing interactive pr0n with the Xbox controls."

Especially with the vibrating controllers ;)

For your girl... (4, Informative)

lpret (570480) | about 11 years ago | (#6284406)

Actually, I remember reading an article about in Japan where chicks were using the playstation controller to, um...well, dual-shock themselves.

Re:For your girl... (5, Informative)

bjschrock (557973) | about 11 years ago | (#6284545)

There is a game that comes with an extra "controller". There's an article about it here. [216.239.53.100] (Google cache).

Re:And just IMAGINE (2, Interesting)

calethix (537786) | about 11 years ago | (#6284442)

"It's quite invigorating browsing interactive pr0n with the Xbox controls"

I saw a gamecube controller at gamestop last night that has a fan/ventilation holes in it to keep your hands cool. You might try finding one for your xbox to keep your hands cool/dry. ;)

Re:And just IMAGINE (1)

CaptnMArk (9003) | about 11 years ago | (#6284604)

>I saw a gamecube controller at gamestop last night that has a fan/ventilation holes in it to keep your hands cool. You might try finding one for your xbox to keep your hands cool/dry. ;)

Is there one with a header.

I find that after a few hours of quakeing my hands are very cold (especially the mouse hand).

To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (3, Interesting)

HanzoSan (251665) | about 11 years ago | (#6284287)



These new live CDs finally give us the chance to introduce Linux to the masses. Recently I emailed dozens of my friends, and I will attempt to introduce them to Linux in a way thats safe, with these new CDs you dont have to actually install Linux, It also gives us the ability to introduce Linux to the gamers. So the question here is how many of you people have actually used this to show people Linux? I wish we had a Redhat live-CD, or Mandrake because those are my favorite brand, but a Lindows promotion CD(Thats what I will start calling these CDs) should be given away in stores and to college students.

How about a grass roots program? I plan to do something like that. I hope through these new live-CDs that it can act as a type of marketing where people who are interested in Linux can try it without actually installing it. The easy way to get them to try it is to give it to them for their Xbox game console, a Console with no OS such as the Xbox would actually be perfect for the gamer who wants to do more than just play games on their Xbox. I also wonder if something like this could be brought to work or run on computer labs in college campuses, I havent tried it so I dont know. But yes, I have ideas for marketing.

People are going to read this and think i'm some kinda Linux zealot, but the truth is the best thing we can do for the computer industry right now is create competition, Linux is competition, competition fuels growth.

So all who are with me, please post a reply/response about how you plan to actually use these live CDs for marketing purposes, perhaps it would be wise to put these live CDs in some videogame magazine if possible, or even get Linux to run on the PS2.

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (4, Informative)

the_consumer (547060) | about 11 years ago | (#6284355)

Linux [ps2linux.com] has been available [playstation2-linux.com] on the PS2 [playstation.com] for quite a while now.

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (4, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 11 years ago | (#6284404)

Linux for Playstation requires the addition of a hard drive and whatnot, which can not then be used for gaming, and which is not (yet?) upgradable to a larger disk. It's an inanely crippled system. On top of that you don't get to treat VU0 and VU1 as different processors or anything, so you're stuck with a single 300MHz processor, which is way too slow, and 32MB of ram, which is way too little.

By contrast the Xbox may not have a 128 bit processor, but it does have a 733MHz one, and it has 64MB of ram, which is still well on the lean side but more than twice as useful as the 32MB in the PS2. In the $130 price for a used console plus another $30 for a memory card with a serial interface, you can hack that mofo and have what ends up being a much more open system than the PS2. That might not be intentional, but it's still more useful.

The only edge PS2 linux has over Xbox linux is the lack of a need for hacking, but it's still cheaper to buy a hacked Xbox than it is to buy a PS2 with the Linux kit.

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (1)

the_consumer (547060) | about 11 years ago | (#6284470)

Yeah, I know all that. Did you read the comment I was replying to? I'm not advocating anything, just pointing out that Linux for PS2 has been done.

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284408)

Yeah, but it runs in a VM and requires expensive Sony brand extras . . .

Mod Chip? (4, Informative)

siskbc (598067) | about 11 years ago | (#6284401)

I emailed dozens of my friends, and I will attempt to introduce them to Linux in a way thats safe

Um...you DO realize they have to mod the box first, right? Your friends are all handy with a soldering iron, I take it?

Knoppix (1)

YeeHaW_Jelte (451855) | about 11 years ago | (#6284461)

I just gave my dad a KNOPPIX cd to test linux with; a complete debian system with kde and all your standard stuff (openoffice, mozilla, etc) on one bootable CD. It's pretty nifty. It booted on my Dell Precision (which, accidentally, damn well isn't slower than any G5, lying apple sons-of-bitches), the same system which gave SuSE quite a few headaches at install time.

And with KNOPPIX you don't need an X-BOX, which are still manufactured by our evil arch enemy Microsoft, as far as I remember.

I'm waiting for the Redhat/Lindows live CD. (1, Insightful)

HanzoSan (251665) | about 11 years ago | (#6284682)



Knoppix is good, but we need some live CDs based on Redhat. We need Redhat Linux because its the most stable and easiest to use. If I am going to introduce someone to Linux, the options would be Mandrake, Redhat, Lindows, but never Debian or Slackware.

But until the Redhat/Mandrake live CD promotion kit is released, I will use Knoppix.

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284462)

I noticed the new LindowsOS 4.0 comes with a "Live CD" to run LindowsOS from the CD.

Frank

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284505)

LiveCDs become more and more widespread, for a lot of possible scenarios. My own effort to this is called jollix [jollix.de]

- based on gentoo linux
- kde, wine, some communication & multimedia applications
- network
- 1st release let windows-only users play their HalfLife/Counterstrike HD-installation
It's in an early stage and not well documented yet

Olli

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (2, Funny)

dnoyeb (547705) | about 11 years ago | (#6284517)

Perhaps we can mail 1-2 CDs per month to each address in the continental US!

No it has to be more personal than that. (1)

HanzoSan (251665) | about 11 years ago | (#6284585)



Although it could indeed work, It worked for AOL, I'd prefer a grass roots movement occur in the same manner people convinced management to use Linux as a server, people have to now convince the average person to use Linux on the desktop.

Once Linux is competitive in all markets, can we finally be happy, when I can buy a PC and the vendor asks "Would you like Linux or Windows on your PC?" Then I will be satisfied.

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (1)

Otter (3800) | about 11 years ago | (#6284534)

Huh? If you're going to distribute CDs to encourage people to try Linux, why not focus on hardware that has a mature Linux environment, doesn't require mod chips or Goldeneye and is a real computer?

Like, oh, I dunno, computers?

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (2, Insightful)

HanzoSan (251665) | about 11 years ago | (#6284623)



The goal is to build mindshare, you cannot get people to try Linux on their mission critical desktop PCs unless they trust you, truely trust you.

You can however get a stranger to run a CD on their gaming console, people dont have to trust you for that. The goal is to get the average person to know Linux exists, once they know it exists then you can market Linux to these peoples PCs.

Actually I'd do it in this order, consoles, college campuses(laptops), computer labs, and finally desktop PCs.

People after they see others running it on their laptops in class will get jealous and be more likely to try it, people dont mind experimenting on a laptop, most laptop users are the only ones using the laptop, a desktop PC however is mission critical, their whole family might use it, they may not trust you enough to even investigate Linux.

Like I said start small and build up to critical mass before you market it to Desktops.

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (5, Informative)

X86Daddy (446356) | about 11 years ago | (#6284572)

Here's a good way to have a bootable Linux CD at all times, ready to demo whenever the opportunity shows:

Buy a Bootable Business Card from the Electronic Frontier Foundation's Shop [eff.org] ! You get to spread the word of Linux while sending $5 towards a wonderful cause!

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (1)

HanzoSan (251665) | about 11 years ago | (#6284664)



Thats nice but I'd prefer a Redhat version. I want something easy to use and configure when I show people Linux or use it myself.

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (1)

Dead_Smiley (49033) | about 11 years ago | (#6284641)

"These new live CDs finally give us the chance to introduce Linux to the masses. Recently I emailed dozens of my friends..."

Wow! They must have really big mail boxes! :o)

Re:To all Linux supporters, This is our chance. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284687)

I agree that this is a good opportunity to help demonstrate Linux, but I am a bit wary of simply shipping people a CD as their first introduction to Linux.

Generally, default distributions (not just Linux) are poorly suited for an introduction: They usually have as many possible applications crammed in with little thought to presentation. This may be great for an experienced user who can quickly cut through the chaff and get at the tools they need, but can thoroughly confuse a new user, making for a very unpleasant first impression.

The idea of a bootable Linux CD for demonstrating the OS is great, but I think that a good demonstration CD is a very different thing than a good "practical" CD. I suspect that the dyne:bolic distribution is in the latter category (but I have not looked at it yet. Anyone actually tried it it yet?).

This is a great idea to introduce Linux to people who are already looking to switch, but I would hold off giving this to someone who is still hooked on another OS, or skeptical about Linux (especially if they fear that Linux is "hard to use".)

First impressions matter.

That being said, this looks like a good starting point for making a Linux presentation CD to seriously start opening peoples eyes to Linux.

and in related news... (5, Funny)

bytes256 (519140) | about 11 years ago | (#6284289)

SCO sues Microsoft because the X-Box is "capable of illegally running SCO IP"

Re:and in related news... (0)

ikkonoishi (674762) | about 11 years ago | (#6284325)

They can't Microsoft paid them off already.

Re:and in related news... (0, Offtopic)

lfourrier (209630) | about 11 years ago | (#6284554)

so what ?

the type of business they are looking for is recuring.

Re:and in related news... (1)

neodymium (411811) | about 11 years ago | (#6284556)

I thought Microsoft has bought a license from SCO ?

Re:and in related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284564)

SCO sues your mom because she is capable of storing SCO IP.

(her brain, I mean)

please (-1, Offtopic)

ikkonoishi (674762) | about 11 years ago | (#6284290)

I beg of all who post here.

Don't make any beowulf cluster jokes about this.

We've already heard them.

Re:please (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284327)

Best. Sig. Ever.

...this week.

Re:please (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284393)

What does it mean?

Re:please (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284432)

Is that like, japanese slang for let's get stoned?

Sorry, I'm working through an imperfect Japanese -> English translator trying to find the literal meaning of çY (which appears to be stone... so I can only assume it can be used as slang to approximate the US English slang term stoned...)

then again, this could all be flying out of my arse at high speeds.

So... Let's çY = ?

Re:please (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284510)

I read it as "rock." The Japanese don't really seem to have a word for "stoned," oddly enough. I've been told that "tobu," "to fly," works. "Meromero" as well, but that has a sexual connotation.

BUSH = RECESSION (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284309)



Tax cuts for All Americans! - well, except for the married poor, poor with children, etc.

They clean my swimming pool, isn't that enough reward?

DVD playback? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284316)

Is there any way to enable DVD playback with this ISO? I only see references to a mp3 player on their site..

I'd really like to use my Xbox as a region free DVD player....two 'League of Gentlemen' DVDs that only get used on my TiPB :-\

Re:DVD playback? (2, Informative)

rasteri (634956) | about 11 years ago | (#6284544)

I'd really like to use my Xbox as a region free DVD player....two 'League of Gentlemen' DVDs that only get used on my TiPB :-\
Just install Xbox Media Player [xboxmediaplayer.de] , possibly EvolutionX too.

Re:DVD playback? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284619)

Excellent! Thanks for taking the time to post this info!

Re:DVD playback? (1)

WomensHealth (661860) | about 11 years ago | (#6284696)

Sorry to tell you this, but the Xbox doesn't make that great of a DVD player. I don't know if it's because the particular DVD drive in my unit is crap, but only rarely will it play DVD-R discs that I've recorded (granted, I'm not using top-quality media). After using my Xbox as my primary DVD player for about a year, I finally buckled and purchased a cheap ($60) Apex progressive-scan player that runs circles around my Xbox as a DVD player.
To be fair, my Xbox does just fine with commerically-produced DVDs. And you don't need Xbox media player. The Evolution X dashboard includes region-free playback capability.

only if they had included dav_fs (1)

stonebeat.org (562495) | about 11 years ago | (#6284317)

only if they had included http://dav.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] it would have made my life easier. :) with dav FS, you can mount a HTTP based WebDAV repository on your system. Very useful for storing files etc....

VideoLan (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284326)

If it doesn't come with VideoLan then it's not complete

Direction wrong, please try again. (5, Insightful)

tomstdenis (446163) | about 11 years ago | (#6284343)

It isn't that we have to introduce *gamers* to Linux. It's that we have to introduce *game developers* to linux. Gamers don't write games [well some may but most don't].

If you build it, they will come, etc, etc.

Same can be said for hardware manufacturers. Some working CMPCI drivers would kick ass too.

Tom

Re:Direction wrong, please try again. (1)

calethix (537786) | about 11 years ago | (#6284477)

It's kind of a chicken/egg problem.
Not many developers are going to write Linux games (or port to Linux) if there are few Linux gamers to pay for the work involved
Conversely, if there aren't many Linux games already then gamers will look to a different platform.

Re:Direction wrong, please try again. (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | about 11 years ago | (#6284527)

No its called "we ought to use our IPO and VC money for something useful".

E.g. the bidnez takes the chance, makes a killer linux game and the booms, people likes the Linux.

On the other hand they can squanders the money on say shiny corner offices and brands new cars [and the womens].

I mean no shit you have to make something before people will buy it.

I bet the first companies to make MP3 players had it rough for the first few years too.... Apparently they're popular cuz you can't go eight feet without seeing some stupid SD 8MB MP3 player somewhere...

Tom

Re:Direction wrong, please try again. (1)

calethix (537786) | about 11 years ago | (#6284677)

That's really not comparable because MP3 players have major advantages over portable cd players/any other portable media player. Not to mention all the people that bought MP3 players just because it was the new thing.
I have yet to see a Linux game that is leaps and bounds ahead of anything available on another platform (PS2, GC, Xbox, Windows PC) so what incentive would I, as a gamer, have to buy a Linux box to play games on?
What incentive as a game developer would I have to make games for a system that
A. I don't know as well as the other systems I already develop for and
B. Has a much smaller user base

If it's so easy, get some VC, start your own game development company and show everyone how it's done.

xine on the Xbox? (5, Interesting)

gooofy (548515) | about 11 years ago | (#6284348)

would be interesting to see what xine [sf.net] could do on this platform. maybe any xbox could be turned into a full-featured dvd player (including menu support) that way?

Re:xine on the Xbox? (1)

iainl (136759) | about 11 years ago | (#6284455)

Clever, but a frankly painful way of doing it. There are already dedicated media player programs for the Xbox that use the built-in DVD decoding hardware to give you multi-region DVD playback without the need for the remote.

"without the need for the remote" (1)

da5idnetlimit.com (410908) | about 11 years ago | (#6284576)

Nice ! You should be in Marketing...

IT truly sounds better than "Goddam DVDX2 !!! Doesn't accept Remote Control !!!"

And now, all of a sudden, it's not a bug. It's a feature 8)

Another Live-CD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284361)

Woo! Having been bored to tears with Knoppix I suppose it's about time another pointless live-CD type distro is released

Somebody please explain the practical everyday use of an OS that runs from a CD drive

Re:Another Live-CD (4, Insightful)

beef3k (551086) | about 11 years ago | (#6284412)

I see it first and foremost as a very efficient way of introducing people to linux without first having to convinve them that they need to repartition their box and install a new boot loader ("huh? boot loader?"), let alone install linux. With Knoppix etc. you can demo linux to someone in 2 minutes instead of 2 hours.

It could also be useful if you do contracting of any sort and would like to work on linux instead of you-know-what (you'd need a USB pen drive or the like for your data).

Re:Another Live-CD (1)

hplasm (576983) | about 11 years ago | (#6284458)

To wean off Bindows, run from CD. After getting the hang of Linux, use the HD install and move on.

Practical everyday use (1)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | about 11 years ago | (#6284584)

1) Insert ClusterKnoppix into every computer in the office
2) Connect laptop to office network
3) Rip rental DVD
4) Begin distributed divx compression
5) Smoke a cigarette
6) Burn DivX CD
7) Go home

For everything else there's... (5, Funny)

johnthorensen (539527) | about 11 years ago | (#6284364)

MicroSoft XBox: $169.00
Mod Chip: $30.00
CD to burn the latest distro to: $0.20

Using the above system to call MicroSoft Tech Support via VoIP to complain about how bad KDE looks on a 20" black-and-white TV: PRICELESS.

-JT

Re:For everything else there's... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284633)

Um, you do know that Microsoft hasn't capitalized the S since the early 1980s, right? At least you're not hyphenating it like they did in the early 1970s.

Let's get this out of the way. (5, Funny)

Prince_Ali (614163) | about 11 years ago | (#6284366)

Me: If you don't like Microsoft, why buy their game system.
You: They lose money on all of their systems.
Me: Even if they lose money that doesn't mean that they sell them for below variable cost. You are just helping recover fixed cost.
You: I don't understand your fancy moon language!
Me: Why not get a Lindows computer?
You: The X-Box has better hardware!
Me: It has like 48 megs of ram.
You: It has a nice graphics card!
Me: Fine, it has a nice graphics card.

Re:Let's get this out of the way. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284434)

Funny. But as a (insert explicative here) Stanford MBA, I tell you, it's true.

I don't understand your fancy moon language! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284512)

I'll have to remember that one to explain delegates to Java programmers.

Re:Let's get this out of the way. (2, Insightful)

orange_6 (320700) | about 11 years ago | (#6284515)

Me: Why not get a Lindows computer?
Because I can't play Halo on Lindows.

Re:Let's get this out of the way. (1)

Xformer (595973) | about 11 years ago | (#6284653)

Especially now that Microsoft has Bungie Studios in their pocket.

Re:Let's get this out of the way. (1)

orange_6 (320700) | about 11 years ago | (#6284684)

If they didn't buy Bungie, the only thing Halo would come out for would be Mac. And I'd rather buy a system that is made for gaming rather than a toy that masquerades as a viable system.

Re:Let's get this out of the way. (1)

theLOUDroom (556455) | about 11 years ago | (#6284583)

Lindows PC's don't have component video output.

Try to find a way to get component video output from your PC for less than $200. I bet you can't.

Sounds Good (2, Interesting)

trublaha (650819) | about 11 years ago | (#6284396)

Over the past few months, I've been working towards getting a server up and running on my university network to provide streaming videos of club activities and music from uni-bands.

The hard part has been scrounging up bits and pieces to create a half-decent server for all this as the Clubs & Societies deperatment of our Student Union has been rather tight-fisted. A cheap x-box preloaded with this software would be perfectly within budget.

Now to convince the less practical members of the committee to drop their insistance on Win32 platform. Convincing them we can achieve our target with an off-the-shelf, cheap-as console rather than an expensive box will take some work... :-/

fancy (0, Troll)

Boromir son of Faram (645464) | about 11 years ago | (#6284413)

Hm, "fancy" and "GNUStep" in the same sentence. I mean, WindowMaker's fine and all, but it's sort of minimal, innit?

wtf? Mpeg encoder and video-in recorder? (5, Insightful)

iainl (136759) | about 11 years ago | (#6284415)

OK, so turning my XBox into a Tivo with the aid of a modchip, a larger hard-drive and this bootcd would be great, but for one obvious thing. Where on earth is the video-in they plan to use this with?

Similiarly, there is no audio-in for the sound recorders.

And Blender is a nightmare of a gui in the first place, even when you've got a keyboard and mouse...

At the end of the day, an Xbox version of KnoppixMAME would probably be more useful, I feel. Still, its an interesting experiment.

Re:wtf? Mpeg encoder and video-in recorder? (1)

op00to (219949) | about 11 years ago | (#6284594)

USB -- the Xbox controller ports are USB ports. If theres a video encoder for USB that has linux drivers, maybe thats what you could use. As for sound, I've gotten usb sound to work on linux a long time ago.

Why the name dyne:bolic? (2, Interesting)

burgburgburg (574866) | about 11 years ago | (#6284417)

What is the genesis of the name? There is no mention in the FAQ (that I could see).

Re:Why the name dyne:bolic? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284532)

Used to be named "dyabolique" but it infringed on another project's name. So they added a colon to give it street cred.

go x-box! (4, Funny)

ZipR (584654) | about 11 years ago | (#6284425)

You're one step close to becoming a PC! Woot!

Um, yeah (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284427)

who:cares

Damn that is the biggest waste of time I've seen in a long while.

Icons stolen from KDE? (0, Offtopic)

Aardpig (622459) | about 11 years ago | (#6284451)

Having a look at one of their screenshots [dynebolic.org] , I noticed that the dock icons in the top right-hand corner look suspiciously like those I remember from my KDE days a couple of years back. It appears they have stolen these icons to spiff up the appearance of Window Maker/GNUStep, which IMHO is rather sneaky.

Re:Icons stolen from KDE? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284605)

There's nothing wrong or improper about that.

What? (2, Informative)

serial frame (236591) | about 11 years ago | (#6284550)

I'm afraid that distribution does not use GNUstep [gnustep.org] ; Window Maker and GNUstep, though intertwined in certain ways, are completely different projects altogether.

Window Maker a GNUstep desktop does not make, I'm afraid.

own xbox distribution? (2, Interesting)

dhm4 (584969) | about 11 years ago | (#6284670)

you can already run different linux distributions on a xbox (debian, mandrake, redhat, suse, ...) with a few kernel hacks, _but_ why does nobody make an own linu-X-box? it should be based on debian [sourceforge.net] . just add a few features from knoppix [knopper.net] or XLLPS. make some individual skins for mozilla, gnome or kde (or even an special window maker), gaim, etc. that are optimized for TV-resolution & gamepad as input device, multimedia (divX, mp3, vcr features), emulators (gba, mame, snes, ps, n64, ... + VMware _g_) & if you have an easy disto (just put the cd in), that windows user can use without probs then a new hype is started. what do you think of that idea or is there already an _independend_ X distro?

If you already have the compressed iso... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6284673)

... please put up a bittorrent, mmmkay?
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