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Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided Ships

Hemos posted more than 10 years ago | from the clanging-bells-and-whistles dept.

Role Playing (Games) 502

TJPile writes "After months and months of beta testing and years of waiting, the Star Wars version of Ever-crack is now shipping. Order your copy today. There are already plans for an expansion pack in 2004 that will feature more character races, worlds, and even the ability to buy, fly, and fight in your own spaceship. The game will set you back $50, come on 3 CDs, require Internet access, and will cost around $10 a month (service subscription fee). Right now it's Windows only." Yep, I'm hoping to play as the Pit of Saarlac: The Ultimate Camper.

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frosty piss (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301326)

frosty piss

Re:frosty piss (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301340)

WooHoo! My first ever fp! Its taken a year to get here. Yeeehawwww! I feel blessed. May the gods rain
fresh meats and vestal virgins upon me.

They'll be dancing in the streets tonight.

The StarWars Galaxys Experience, summed up (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301329)

You have entered Cantina_1

You are struck by force for 15 points by Da4th_Vad3r_P1mp

You have been slain by Da4th_Vad3r_P1mp

Da4th_Vad3r_P1mp says: kekekeke

hehe (5, Funny)

Machine9 (627913) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301331)

Player: f00k1ng c4mp3r n00b!

Pit_of_sarlac5116: roooaaar *chomp* *chomp* *digest*

I know that it's really sad to know this but... (4, Informative)

nounderscores (246517) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301445)

The name is The Sarlacc in the Great Pit of Carkoon.

official lore here [starwars.com]

I suppose that there would be other Sarlaccs in less famous pits, if you don't manage to camp Carkoon, which is like the beverley hills of pits.

I Am Luke SKyWaelker!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301336)

I Am Luke SKyWaelker!! UnCLE owen!?

Uncle Owen!?


Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301338)

And of course the famous question

does anybody know if there's a linux version planned like NWN?

if so, then even I might get addicted ...

Re:Linux (5, Interesting)

cnelzie (451984) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301479)

The answer is... Nope. There won't be a Linux client. There also won't likely be a MacOSX either.
This game is put out by Sony Online Entertainment and for all intents and purposes Sony doesn't appear to believe in the existence of anything but Microsoft Windows and the PS2 in regards to producing games.

It could potentially hurt their bottom line to produce anything but a Windows or PS2 version of SWG or EQ. Since it forces someone wanting play such a game to buy a Windows PC or PS2, which increases the chances of Sony selling a PS2 or Vaio Computer System.

Hey, I wish it wasn't so, but that is the nature of the beast.

Of course, I am fairly certain that if you were to gather close to 100,000 close friends to not only sign a petition, but to also kick in a $50.00 "donation", you could likely persuade Sony to build a Linux client with the condition that you would be providing them with the big pile of money that you would then have.

Then again, there is likely a larger chance of Microsoft freely, with no strings attached, seeing the error of their ways and providind EVERY spot of source code ever produced as Open Source.

Oh yay (2, Funny)

Eric(b0mb)Dennis (629047) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301341)

/me watches as productivity around the globe grinds to a screeching halt

And I thought we were in a recession now..

I think I'm going to go to the local EB and pass out some NA cards along with the game... looks like my cigarette vending ice-cream truck business will finally pick up..

I can't wait to see the look on Sony's faces with hoards of new subscribers turn their servers into a steaming pile of goop... *puts tin foil hat on* time to start playing, unibomber status

Already Bought (0)

SlayerofGods (682938) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301345)

I don't care what anyone says I've already preordered my copy and it should be arving within the day(or 2).
Besides you have to buy it, if not just for the fact that it is Star Wars.

Re:Already Bought (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301497)

George Lucas is rich enough already. Buy it because it's a decent game, not just because it's Star Wars, lest we be given another Star Wars Holiday Special [imdb.com] .

seems like a dud to me (-1, Flamebait)

kuiken (115647) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301348)

All the features that made it intresting and unique, they left out and anounced them in an x-pack. The game realy is just another MMORPG. Not to mention its buggy as hell atm.
The only ppl i spoke to that think this is a great game are the kind of ppl you can sell a dog turd, with a SW sticker on for $ 500

Re:seems like a dud to me (1)

stray (73778) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301358)

The only ppl i spoke to that think this is a great game are the kind of ppl you can sell a dog turd, with a SW sticker on for $ 500

Can you please get me in touch with those people? I might have some business proposals for them..

way cool (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301349)

Yet another example of paying to escape reality. What IS the Matrix again?


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301570)

yeah fuck that, I'm not gonna support Lucas with more of my money. I'm going outside to smell some flowers and make love to my girl.

From a Beta Tester (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301350)

Take it from someone who has played it since November.

This game is excedingly boring, even for an EQ clone.

Re:From a Beta Tester (2, Funny)

lokedhs (672255) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301467)

If you have played it since november, it can't be that boring, can it?

I have tried several[1] MMP games, and I have yet to find one that didn't bore me to death within a couple of days play.

[1] WW2OL, Eve, Jumpgate, Allegiance, Earth&Beyond, etc...

Re:From a Beta Tester (0)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301503)

it can

beta testing is for testing not for fun

the game has built with more promise each time

Everquest in Space in aint

worst...agme...ever..... (2, Informative)

Brat Food (9397) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301352)

Not to burst anyones overhyped bubble on this one, but this game is really, really boring. And, the only people who are goign to do good at it, are the huge guilds who have dolled out jobs and will be working together to become the powerhouses in the game VERY fast over people who are not.

I killed jarjar many times in beta, i think thats good enough~

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Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301431)

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Re:worst...agme...ever..... (4, Funny)

0123456 (636235) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301557)

"I killed jarjar many times in beta"

Gotta be worth $50 to kill Jar-Jar many times :).

Re:worst...agme...ever..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301580)

I'd agree... I've been in since Beta 2 and found that it wasn't anywhere near being polished enough for rls... it's also very boring as the parent said.

Pffft... a lot of people are going to be disappointed when they go to play it...

Re:Agreed (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301601)

Gabe of Penny Arcade posted his thoughts [penny-arcade.com] , as well as a comic [penny-arcade.com] .

"Right now it's Windows only." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301357)

"Right now it's Windows only."

Don't get your hopes up for a native linux erh I mean GNU/Linux version, SWG uses DirectX.

Let's hope winex can run it...

Could this be? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301366)

...the REAL, BETTER and more LOGICAL episodes 1 - 3 in form of a MMORPG? Maybe a movie doesn't suit Star Wars anymore as media format? I wan't my childhood Star Wars memories back. Maybe that game can give me what the movies failed to do. snif..

Evil that it's not working yet.... (3, Interesting)

MolGOLD (158043) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301368)

So I went out and picked up the game yesterday at my local EB...they had apparently been selling it since the 24th, which came as a bit of a shock....was nice to see that I got one of the last copies as apparently all but 2 had been pre-purchased or reserverd (the guy next to me said his kid had asked for it for his birthday 2 YEARS AGO)...

Of course, imagine the utter disappointment of getting home and fniding that I could only create my station login and couldn't get a little jump on everyone :(

(Oh well)

I can't wait for this to go live today...should be really exciting (in a "i'm so lame, i have another life online which spends more time interacting with women than I do" kinda way)...again, disappointing that the addon won't come until 2004, but I imagine all the dedicated Star Wars nutters out there will find ways to keep busy until then...

Now I wonder how long until the Mac OS X port (now that EQ has finally arrived for Mac)

Correction (4, Informative)

Klerck (213193) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301371)

The monthly fee, I believe, is going to be $15/mo. A new high for MMORPGs.

Having been in the beta for a long time, I'm going to suggest staying away from this one for at least a few months. Even in the last two weeks, servers have been going up and down daily an most things still don't even appear to work correctly. The game is not nearly completed.

From what I did play, though, I had fun with... I just won't be picking it up for a while. Besides, I've still go DAoC to keep me busy.

Re:Correction (2, Interesting)

sixb0nes (679401) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301473)

Believe it or not, there is a game [totalsims.com] out there that charges more: up to $24.95!

I love MMO flight sims like the next guy (eg., Aces High [hitechcreations.com] , WWIIOL [wwiionline.com] ), but uhh - that is going a bit too far.

KLERCK == KNOWN TROLL!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301522)

Check his journal. Mod appropriately.

10 bucks a month my ass... (2, Informative)

LordYUK (552359) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301374)

subscription rates are closer to 15 a month. They offer packages that allow pay more months up front, get a discount, all the way down to 12.00 a month for 1 year.

However, there are flaws with this game... look for a post further down...

Re:10 bucks a month my ass... (2, Informative)

ASPirant (139119) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301530)

From the website for SWGalaxies:

Â1 month -Â$14.99
Â3 months - $41.99
Â6 months - $77.99
Â12 months - $143.99ÂÂ

(http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/conten t. jsp?page=Accounts%20Billing%20Changing%20Subscript ion%20Plans)

If I can't kill Jar Jar, I'm not interested. (3, Funny)

Trespass (225077) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301377)

I wonder if the game is logged well enough that Lucas will use it as a source for story ideas.

Hmm, maybe I should patent that idea.

Or maybe I should patent the idea that I thought of that idea.

Or#Y($(HJbnkHkjhgb ek7y732924283925


Just make sure you say nice things about it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301380)

Sony appear to be banning thier beta testers who privately gave out about the game.

This link below has a really good review of what to expect, yet the person was banned and removed from the beta program.


Also the price of the game is a lot higher then $10 month afaik.

Re:Just make sure you say nice things about it. (1)

lokedhs (672255) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301491)

I can't really blame them. Whn you sighn up as a beta tester you agree to an NDA. Posting a review means that you violate that NDA. Throwing that person out is the least they should do.

Not that I mind reading wharever is leaked though. :-)

Not yet ready (5, Informative)

YH (126159) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301381)

I participated in Beta 3 and I can tell u the game is not yet ready. There were some major patches in the past 2 weeks and there was no way near enough testing of those patches. Balance needs major tweaking in some areas, some of the elite professions have had some major issues, immersion is lacking, missions are lame and content overall is weak. However, the grafx are beautiful (if u got a top of the line machine) and the devs have been very communicative with the beta players so hopefully they will get their act straight when paying customers start complaining. Also, pricing ranges from $12-15 a month depending on how many months you purchase in advance.

Re:Not yet ready (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301407)

Balance needs major tweaking?

Please tell me you're not referring to the force...

Agree 100% (5, Informative)

Redking (89329) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301605)

I was looking forward to playing SWG too and have been waiting for a MMORPG to truly immerse myself in since I was too late to join UO and EQ. I had high hopes for SWG and I was surprised Sony lifted the NDA before the game was actually released. Once the NDA was released I checked out the Sony Station boards for SWG which already had some reviews posted by the beta testers.

The beta testers' reviews of SWG weren't complimentary at all. There were a lot of negative posts and the most damaging evidence of that is how Sony has removed access to the old message boards (http://boards2.station.sony.com/ubb/starwars [sony.com] ). However, forums at SWG fan sites have preserved some of these original, honest reviews. Check it out: SWG Fan Site with Honest Review Deleted by Sony [stratics.com] . My compliments to Stratics.com. And I'm sure other SWG fan sites will have honest reviews too.

I actually overcame my Everquest addiction... (2, Informative)

nadadogg (652178) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301383)

...and now something better than EQ could have ever been(for me) comes out. My core group of friends are all big star wars geeks, and we pretty much quit EQ together, got girlfriends, etc. Now, with this coming out, we are going to have to band together and not get this as a team, lest we fall prey to our baser(geekier) desires.
But shit man, a wookie dark jedi.
(me to girlfriend)Baby, you know I love you, but I need some me(starwars) time, you know, to sort things out(become dark jedi). I'm glad you understand(please dont sleep with anyone else).
Love, Nadadogg(Sith Lord Grwararar-bacca)

And don't miss (3, Funny)

Octagon Most (522688) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301386)

If you sit down for drinks with Han Solo ...

Shoot First!

Re:And don't miss (1)

vudufixit (581911) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301459)

Well, since 1997 Han Solo has been prohibited from "shooting first" so anyone could get the drop on him.

Pricing Inaccurate (2, Insightful)

SnowDog_2112 (23900) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301392)

The monthly price is actually higher than the 10$ listed in the blurb. For a single month, you're paying nearly 15 bucks, though I believe you can knock it down to 12 bucks by paying a year at a time.

Varying rates plans apply depending on your subscription.

I've heard really mixed reviews of this ... some folks say it's a lot of fun but not a traditional MMORPG, others feel like it's too much of a traditional MMORPG and not enough like Star Wars.

Personally, I'll play the "wait and see" game. With NWN SOU just being released, I have enough game content to fill up my spare time :)

Windows only (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301394)

Will it work on Wine?

Better work harder on your character name (5, Interesting)

1WingedAngel (575467) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301399)

Heres the ugly rule list for naming conventions:

1. Vile, profane, rude, or racist names including common swear words, anatomical references, racial slurs, and homonyms of these words.
2. Combinations of words that produce an offensive result (e.g. Hugeaz, Tug Mcgroin).
3. Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin, Angel, Devil, Demon).
4. Trademarked names of products, services, or concepts (e.g. , Marlboro, Sony, Band-Aid).
5. Non-fantasy or non-science fiction oriented names from popular fiction or non-fiction media either fictional or non-fictional (e.g. Bill Clinton, Austin Powers, Britneyspears, Harrypotter)
6.Common words and phrases that would not be found in the setting of the game (e.g. Television, Cellphone, Pickuptruck, Dude). This includes references to drug substances or drug related paraphernalia. (e.g. Ecstacy, Cannibis)
7. Proper names from the Star Wars universe, including the first or last name of any significant NPC in Star Wars Galaxies or the Star Wars universe (e.g. Skywalker, Greedo, Vader, Exar Kun, Xizor, Fett, Tuskien)
8. Names chosen with the intent, or possessed of the effect of harming the reputation of, or used to impersonate a customer or representative of Sony Online Entertainment, LucasArts, Lucasfilm Entertainment Company, or any of their partners or affiliates.
9. Names containing titles within them, such as, but not limited to: The, Lord, Lady, Master, King, Knight, Sir, Father (e.g. Sirtallon, Lordeagle, Mothermaggy, Darksister).
10. Fantasy-oriented names that are easily recognized from popular existing media (e.g. Gandalf, Pikachu, Drizzt, Godzilla, Aslan).
11. Names where the combination of the first and last name violate a previous rule (e.g. Harleeda Vidsonn, Clint Eastwood).

Re:Better work harder on your character name (1)

Machine9 (627913) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301426)

Well, if, for once, you'd like to have a role-playing game, as opposed to "action disguised as a roleplaying game", this might be the way to go...

I mean, do you *really* want to see 80209 variations of D4rkV4d0r ?

Re:Better work harder on your character name (2, Insightful)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301428)

Sounds like standard fare for MMOGs to me. Personally, I welcome these kinds of limitations on naming. Kind of hard to immerse yourself in the game when you're wandering around and spot people named purely to amuse themselves and all their 10 year old buddies, and to annoy everyone else. I also have no sympathy for people who skip that little bit of text when they start playing the game, create a retarded name for their avatar and then get all pissy when a GM renames it for him.

Re:Better work harder on your character name (1)

rabiteman (585341) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301441)

5. Non-fantasy or non-science fiction oriented names from popular fiction or non-fiction media either fictional or non-fictional (e.g. Bill Clinton, Austin Powers, Britneyspears, Harrypotter)
11. Names where the combination of the first and last name violate a previous rule (e.g. Harleeda Vidsonn, Clint Eastwood).

Wouldn't 'Clint Eastwood' fall under rule 5's jurisdiction? I'd say 'Clinte Astwood' would be a better candidate for rule 11, myself.

Re:Better work harder on your character name (4, Funny)

SlashdotLemming (640272) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301586)

Wouldn't 'Clint Eastwood' fall under rule 5's jurisdiction? I'd say 'Clinte Astwood' would be a better candidate for rule 11, myself.

How about Clit Asswood?

I think I'm gonna get this game just to see how many naming rules I can violate.

Re:Better work harder on your character name (5, Funny)

OpCode42 (253084) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301484)

I wonder if they'd accept tk421 ?

I promise to be at my post if they do!

Re:Better work harder on your character name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301536)

> I wonder if they'd accept tk421 ?

Worth a try, Lucasarts doesn't seem to have much of a memory for anything they did before 1997.

easy solution through stupid chain e-mail (2, Funny)

nounderscores (246517) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301492)

Did you ever get this [lyberg.dk] starwars name algorithm in your emailbox?

It's the answer to all your problems.

Of course rules 7 and 9 mean that you'll be condemned to being a petty bougois bystander in the great galactic civil war who amounts to nothing in history. Just like your parents always said you'd be.

Re:Better work harder on your character name (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301521)

Find the name that violates the most clauses:

I'll start with "Porkin's Wedge"

I think Lucas is missing out (5, Funny)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301524)

Hugeaz, Tug Mcgroin, Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin, Angel, Devil, Demon, Marlboro, Sony, Band-Aid, Bill Clinton, Austin Powers, Britneyspears, Harrypotter, Television, Cellphone, Pickuptruck, Dude, Ecstacy, Cannibis, Skywalker, Greedo, Vader, Exar Kun, Xizor, Fett, Tuskien, Lord, Lady, Master, King, Knight, Sir, Father, Sirtallon, Lordeagle, Mothermaggy, Darksister, Gandalf, Pikachu, Drizzt, Godzilla, Aslan, Harleeda Vidsonn, Clint Eastwood.

You know, I just mentally pictured a game with all these characters in it... and it was awesome.

May I Be The First to Ask... (3, Funny)

RobotRunAmok (595286) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301542)


"Drizzt?!" "Drizzt" is a "Fantasy-oriented name that is easily recognized from popular existing media" in the same class as Gandalf, Pikachu, and Godzilla?

That's an over-the-counter nasal decongestant, that's not a name!


"I AM DRIZZT! Kneel before me, lest I smite you with my +3 Sword of Nasal Membrane Leakage!"

"Drizzt?" "Elric of Melnibone," "Thulsa-Doom," "The Gray Mouser"... now *these* are Fantasy Names! "Drizzt" is a sound-effect. Or, at most, a Silver Age superhero team's cute alien mascot.

Sorry for the rant; guess I'm just feeling a little "old-school" today...

Re:May I Be The First to Ask... (2, Interesting)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301595)

Yes, but look at EQ and see all the damned Drizzt Do'urden knockoffs and tell me they aren't justified in mentioning it. Because MMORPGamers (especially ones with a mental age at or below 15) seem to operate on the principle that those aren't naming guidelines, those are naming examples.

Thank god I already have my gaming fix somewhere other then SWG...


Re:May I Be The First to Ask... (1)

PainKilleR-CE (597083) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301603)

Drizzt is a dark elf from the Forgotten Realms novels by R.A. Salvatore

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=fr/fx20 01 0117d

Yes, I did read too many D&D novels as a kid (mostly DragonLance, but seemingly all of the Forgotten Realms books I own happen to be R.A. Salvatore novels featuring Drizzt).

Re:May I Be The First to Ask... (1)

kryptobiotic (451986) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301606)

Drizzt Do'Urden is a very popular drow elf from the Forgotten realms. Read the Crystal Shard series to find out why

Re: Better work harder on your character name (1)

gidds (56397) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301583)

Erm, sorry, but does that list the names that are permitted, or the ones that aren't?

Re:Better work harder on your character name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301589)

So, let me be the first to ask, after all those restrictions are there any names left?

Yeah, but will it be good (2, Interesting)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301401)

From what I'm reading of some of the comments in the SWG forums from beta players, this is going to be a MMORPG first and a Star Wars game second. I suppose that's good in some ways and bad in others. I DO like what the Penny Arcade guys had to say about it a week or two ago here [penny-arcade.com] . Paraphrased, basically that SWG could probably be considered to be a great MMORPG in its own rights, but many people play to be immersed in the Star Wars universe you imagine, as depicted in the Star Wars movies-- and it's simply not that.

Disclaimer, I haven't played the beta at all, simply going on comments from others, and I fully realize gaming forums aren't the BEST place for opinions. I'll probably wait for a buddy to pick it up and check it out then... in the meantime, I'll stick with Dark Age of Camelot.

Re:Yeah, but will it be good (1)

pbur (88030) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301423)

I was in beta and I can assure you I have a lot more fun in Dark Age of Camelot. SWG feels so much like the pain and torture that is Everquest, meaning that I knew this game was going to be run like SOE's other games and only the people who join uber guilds and play most of the week are going to excel at all. I have better ways to spend $15 a month.

For those that want really fast action and aren't into standing around and killing MOB after brainless MOB, should look at Planetside. RvR in DaoC is close, but the breakneck pace of Planetside can get the excitment going.

Re:Yeah, but will it be good (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301450)

I'm not entirely sure I'd like Planetside either, the idea of paying monthly for what amounts to a first-person shooter doesn't make any sesne to me. I mean I know there's development of your character and whatnot so it's not just a normal FPS, but with so many other decent ones out there that don't charge monthly .....

At any rate, thanks a bunch -- it's good to know SOE is up to its old tricks with SWG, so I can ignore their products entirely and spend my money elsewhere too. :-)

Re:Yeah, but will it be good (1)

pbur (88030) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301485)

Ah, I agree with you. I should have put in my post that I am not playing Planetside for that very reason. I can't jusitfy $12/month for another game I might play a few times, since I already play DaoC. Also considering I can get the same sort of experience playing Day of Defeat which is free.

you'd think sony would've learned by now... (4, Insightful)

*weasel (174362) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301406)

how to release a massmog that underpromised, overdelivered and was reasonably stable at launch.

I mean, cmon. -microsoft- of all game developers has done it right -twice- now with the Asheron's Call series, and hitherto unknown Mythic Entertainment pulled it off with Dark Age of Camelot.

in my unprofessional opinion - this game is not going to strike a fire in the casual gamer market like they hope. any casual gamer will immediately be turned off by having their wookie bounty hunter continually chased all over tatooine by some fscking crab smaller than his head. the casual gamer doesn't want to spend 100 hours getting to the point where he can hunt banthas or dewbacks or sandpeople. they want to do fun stuff now.

not to mention travel. everything was laid out assuming you'd be able to get your own speeder bike or landspeeder, or bum a ride from someone. but now player-vehicles are out until god-knows-when, and the result is that the town to town running makes EQ's seem reasonable.

if star wars was an action game like planetside, that could maybe catch on - if only sony wasn't pricing it out of the realm of reasonability. $12/mo for a FPS?

SWG looks like a market dissappointment in the same vein as Sims Online.

North America only? (1)

meat.curtains (197789) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301408)

According to the LucasArts website [lucasarts.com] "the game is intended for play only within North America". Is there a European or worldwide version?

Re:North America only? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301424)

They aren't releasing it yet overseas, however the Devs have stated that there won't be a problem importing it (will accept foreign credit cards).

MIsleading? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301410)

Right now it's Windows only

This statement seems to imply there is a linux version in the works. There is not. There is no reason to develop for linux, since the linux community boils down to a 'free love, free beer, free software' commune where the prevelant belief is that nobody should ever pay for software. Therefore, developing for linux is a lose-lose business proposition.

Pit of Saarlac? (1)

zonix (592337) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301421)

Yep, I'm hoping to play as the Pit of Saarlac: The Ultimate Camper.

That's priceless! Would that be the original or special edition version, then. :-)


I've heard that this game is terrible! (1)

Hackie_Chan (678203) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301433)

Wasn't so long ago I heard that the people who beta tested the game got so fed up with this game because it was real crappy? They said that the game had no spirit because the worlds were completely random, and that there is nothing to do because you have no specific goal to aim to when you play. And according to my vocabulary -- it sounded like they were pretty experienced MMORPG gamers. So my guess is that this is the years Hyperware: Hyped up game that's highly expected with big sales the first week 'till reviews and word of mouth kicks in that the game sucks.

Dear Mr Lucas (2, Funny)

shadowpuppy (629329) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301435)

I regret to inform you that I cannot praticipate in this travesty. I will only participate in the merchandising for good movies. Episodes I and II fail to qualify. The tought of you recieving any money for those is too horrible for my participation.

Another rushed SOE product (3, Informative)

Muhammed Absol (670439) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301438)

I've beta tested SWG for several months now am I am just one of the MANY beta testers who are really suprised to see this being rushed so badly. This game may be going on the shelves but it will be in beta for a very long time to come still.

Obligatory Question (1)

Pillager (6026) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301442)

Does it run under Wine, or is this one of those 'Dual Boot or Don't play' situations?

Erm... please do not believe the Hype. (5, Interesting)

EvilNight (11001) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301456)

Look, I'm all for a good star wars mmorpg... but this isn't it. I've played in the beta.

It looks and feels like Anarchy Online. It's actually a pretty boring game. So far, it's been plagued by the same kinds of problems Everquest had, including the same lack of customer support and generally shoddy game design. They've had several patches that were nothing but nerf-fests and introduced more bugs than they fixed. You've got about a one in one thousand chance of ending up with a force-sensitive character, so forget about ever playing a Jedi.

Sure, they'll iron this thing out eventually. Once a lot of people start playing it and player communities take hold, it'll probably be fun. Once they get the 100 or so feautres they left out of the initial release added, it'll be a better game. Once the playerbase beats them into submission and forces them to make a few obvious, common sense design changes that should have been in from the beginning, it'll be a better game. It'll also probably be 2007.

If this game ends up being fun, it will be in spite of Sony, not because of Sony. Just like Everquest. Remember that this is not truly a LucasArts game.

Honestly I'd hold out for Worlds of Warcraft. Blizzard will treat its customers far better than Sony does.

Re:Erm... please do not believe the Hype. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301481)

yeah and @ $10 a month - not that I wont pay that for a good game, but I won't pay that for a "decent" game.

Sure, order it today! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301468)

After all, it's a Star Wars(tm) product. It's not as though we care about the quality. Lucasarts know they've got our money no matter how much it sucks. We've shown them that time and again.

Alternatively, we could calm down, read some reviews, and decide whether it's worth investing the time and money in a game that seems to have everything we want... except a half decent implementation.

Another Beta Tester Comment (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301470)

Well, I'm no star wars fan, but I have enjoyed beta testing this game for the past month. As I've only seen negative opinions so far, I thought I'd say that the game is quite fun, and potentially a huge time sink.. which is the only reason I'm not buying it currently, have too much work to do! Yes, there are bugs but I believe all game breaking ones have been removed, some of the upper tiers of the professions need to be polished, but unless you're a power gamer you're weeks/months away from hitting any of those, and hopefully they will be fixed by then.

The whole crafting system I find quite interesting, and appeals to the RTS gamer in me.

The Dev's have been VERY responsive in the forums, and listen to comments people say, even the flamers.

Re:Another Beta Tester Comment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301511)

I agree that the devs have been very responsive, but the game is simply not ready for release right now.

Heck, they only stopped giving away free weapons and items like three or four weeks ago. There is no way that more advanced things in the game have been tested -- only 5% or less of players (the ones with no lives) had more than base-level experience due to the frequent player wipes.

Penny-Arcade Quote (1)

Kasmiur (464127) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301480)

"âoeItâ(TM)s not like theyâ(TM)re gonna make you spend hours hitting Wamprats with a stick.â Oh irony, thou art a harsh mistress. "

Man I love those guys.

My bro does SWG tech support (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301506)

I'm not much of a gamer, but I was just talking to my brother about the SWG game coming out... He was hired recently (along with a bunch of other people) by Sony in San Diego to take tech support calls for the game. There were also a bunch of new "Game Masters" hired.

After 1.5 weeks of training he is supposed to work 12 hour days (including weekends) for the next couple of weeks due to the launch... then he shifts to a 9am-6pm PDT schedule.

One thing that he told me that I was very surprised to learn was how these games are specifically designed to be intensively psychologically addicting. (They are subscription-based games so they want you to keep on playing.) And many people do take the games extremely seriously... There have even been suicides over previous games like Everquest, and the Techs/Game Masters routinely get death threats, etc by the players. This was all brought out in his training...

Re:My bro does SWG tech support (0)

Farnite (670426) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301585)

There have even been suicides over previous games like Everquest, and the Techs/Game Masters routinely get death threats, etc by the players. This was all brought out in his training...
Aye, I remember the everquest suicide, where the kids mom attempted to sue sony over it. Honestly, if you have this much of an addiction to it, you need to find something or someone else to do, it's not healthy.

One thing I never understood (5, Insightful)

skt (248449) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301510)

One thing I never understood about these games is that if it is going to be over $10.00 per month, why would they still charge $50.00 for the software? They will cite server maintenance and bandwidth as the reason for the subscription, but I think we all know they will make a huge profit on the subscription alone. There is no way that cost is just to cover one person's bandwidth needs. Normal games cost that much and they don't have subscriptions, most even offer free services that users can connect to to play online (Blizzard's battlenet, for example). If the software is useless without a subscription.. they should just flood the market with CDs like AOL does or offer to mail you one. I guess the market will pay that much, but I would think that you could make more money in the long run by just giving away the software and charging for the service. That might also draw more people in that wouldn't consider buying this because of the subscription requirement.

Issues with Star Wars Galaxies (5, Informative)

LordYUK (552359) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301518)

Lets start with the Good, because there are Good things about this game.

1) Its pretty. The graphics are very well done for the most part, for a while you will really feel like you are "on a Star Wars planet".

2) I've never played MMORPGs prior to this, but from what I hear, the character customization blows the others away. I was fairly impressed when I got to choose my toons eyeshadow and nose size.

3) It sounds good. The blasters sound like blasters, Stormtroopers talk ('move along') as you walk by, jawas chatter.

Now the Bad.

1) Its not Star Wars. Its EQ in Space, only there is no Space, so its basically EQ with Wookies. Let me clarify. When I think of Star Wars, I think of sweeping adventures, romance, intrigue, blaster fights that get my heart pounding, SPACE. The battles in SWG are bland, and consist of little more than spamming you're best special attack until the creature is daed. The thing that bothered me most was that the Brawler (hand to hand) had more varied moves than the Marksman (pistol, carbine, rifle user). I found that I actually used 3-4 moves with the Brawler and just Bodyshot 2 (yes, thats the actual name of the attack) with my Pistoleer. Combat consists of fighting enemies such as "diseased Nunas", "tusk cats", crazed butterfly like things, ape like "squalls", and swooperless swooper gangs. You could pop off one of the gang members and the rest of them would generally just stare at you. Weee...

2) Roughly 90% of the world that isnt in a city is random. Compeltely random. It changes almost hourly, based on mission spawns, and rarely changes "back". Not very immersive, I'd say.

3) No loot (well, very little). Very little incentive to go out and fight stuff, other than XP. Well, if thats my sole motivation, then why bother? I mean, I could kill a womp rat 1,000 times 10 feet out of town and level up or I could walk 45-60 minutes to get to one bigger creature (more often more than 1 bigger creature) that I have no chance to take and get about 10 more XP points. Okay, so its not quite THAT bad, but there is little incentive to go out and hunt, after the first "I just want to see it" hunt.

4) Classes not finished. Classes such as the Commando were not properly tested because resources crafters needed to make thier weapons werent avaialable in the beta. That means they will probably be totally unbalanced, which puts them in with the other classes. Note there were hundreds and hundreds of topics about the Medic class having severe issues (any of you who buy this game, go medical forage and tell me if you can make a StimA) and they were never addressed.

5) Its not very innovative. Right now, we're already looking at one expansion (space due 0-18 months from now) to provide features that should have been there since day one, vehicles. Its just a MMORPG, with a Star Wars skin. If I wasnt in town, I would have never known I was in the Star Wars world. Except for the Womp Rats and Dewbacks, there were very few Star Wars feeling moments in the wild.

6) Get ready to hoof it. It takes about 20-40 minutes to get from town to town (or town to mission, one way) if you dont take a shuttle, and at the moment there are no land vehicles (and shuttles dont go everywhere). So you hit autorun and point.

I wont go into the roleplaying features, because we could role play here if we so choose. Roleplaying, while part of the game, is only part of the game as much as the players want it to be.

SWG was a huge disapointment, I look forward to WoW.

SWEET! (-1, Troll)

QwkHyenA (207573) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301527)

I'm seeing major discounts in EQ's Bazaar real soon!

I'm guessing Vox won't be camped as much either!

'ever-crack' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301532)

Dear editors,

Could you please use terms that are relevant to a story in the body of your text so that it is understandable to non-gamers.



And so it begins (5, Funny)

cubicledrone (681598) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301539)

A 24-hour a day, 15,000 person, lightsaber-wielding melee over who gets to buy the Millennium Falcon.

Sounds great.

My comments... Re: Beta tester complaints (1)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301549)

Don't judge a game by what the beta testers say. ESPECIALLY an MMOG.

In general, unless you're looking to get a headstart on everyone else and don't care about bugs (Most people value a headstart over bug-free gaming), don't buy any MMOG until at least 2-3 months after release.

Everything said by these beta testers was also said about EVE Online beta testers - In the last two weeks before release, a LOT of the problems in EVE were fixed. Yes, there are still a lot of problems, and CCP is still rebalancing the game, but all of the real nasties have been fixed. EVE has come a long way in the past month and a half since release, and the future looks bright. (CCP is planning to "kick off" the storyline of the game within the coming weeks now that most players have settled and become comfortable in the universe.)

FYI, I didn't play SWG beta, but the complaints of all the beta players look identical to the compaints of EVE beta testers in the one /. story that covered EVE.

SWG thoughts (1)

Kartik3 (590836) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301550)

Well, as some others who have posted, I participated in Beta 3 also. I had been looking forward to Star Wars Galaxies for quite some time now and couldn't wait to get into it. After playing for about a day or two I found SWG to lack in overall depth and to be extremely similar to Everquest (another SCEA MMORPG for those of you who somehow don't know ;) ). All I was able to do was run around and shoot small bunnies or flies only once did I see anyone shoot something bigger than a bug (or furry animal) and it was taken down somehow with one shot. The best thign about the game that I have found thus far is the ability to pick the skills a player would like to see their character have, rather than being confined to a specific set of skills if you picked a class in say EQ. Unfortuantely, any other novel things in the game held little interest after a day or two of playing. It'll be interesting to see how the implementation of Jedi affects the overall gameplay experience, but I don't see it being enough of an improvement to warrent buying SWG immediately. Essentially it seems that the game was made for the Star Wars fan and not the gamer in mind. For the fan you've got tons of beautiful graphics, and the Star Wars creatures, etc. (not to mention jedi), but for the gamer there really isn't all that much to do. Even the randomly generated quests (which is somewhat of a touted feature) seemed to give mostly mundane quests (it's possible I could be wrong here just because I haven't tried out TONS of the generated quests) . In the end I'll probably be waiting for a few months so they can iron out all the kinks before I purchase SWG, and I suggest people who want to really experience it to do the same. On another note, I'm seriously starting to question the motives of SCEA at the moment. It would be dumb to think that Sony wasn't trying to make oodles of money, but at what cost? Do they really care so little about the users that their willing to put out a (very) buggy game while actually raising the staple MMORPG monthly price? I think at their current pricing, if I wasn't satisfied with the game (which I wouldn't if I bought it today) I would probably contact the Better Business Bureau and figure something out. A question I'd like to also ask my fellow Slashdotters would be, what are the more in depth and fun MMORPG's out there to play? I've played EQ and some Dark Ages of Camelot and the latter seems to have the most depth of any RPG right now. But, I don't know if I have unrealistic expectations but I just don't want to have to be sitting just pressing 1 button constantly like in EQ and I don't want to be killing small rodents forever. Essentially I guess I'm looking for something close to Dialbo II when it comes to MMORPG's, hence I guess I'll wait to see what World of Warcraft is like.

Pit ... of ... Sarlacc? (2, Funny)

dzym (544085) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301558)

No you fool!

It is the Pit of Carkoon!

The Sarlacc is the creature at the bottom of the pit.

What kind of non-Star Wars geek are you anyway?

Checks and balances (2)

DrXym (126579) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301560)

Frankly I wondered why I ever played EQ. At first you see a whole world with lots to do and explore and you wonder how you can ever get bored. The first 15 levels or so pass quite well, learning new skills, spells and so forth but each level seems to increase the amount of camping, medding, skill raising, /auc'ing and all the other time consuming repetitive shit EQ makes you do in order to progress. If you're a casual gamer, your experience grinds to a halt watching a blue bar crawl for hours at a time as you sit, med, stand, attack, sit, med, stand, attack for hours. To relieve the monotony you can /auc, sit, /auc, skill, /auc for hours instead. Grouping helps, but not much. Where is the fun in that?

Even the much touted expansions never fixed the fundamental faults in the game choosing instead to put uber gear to keep hardcore addicts playing but ignoring the mid game and low level experiences, or doing much to fix the disasterous RSI inducing UI. One expansion in particular actually was so disasterous (Luclin) that it killed performance and was bugged for months even for people who didn't buy it but who had to upgrade to the new engine.

Now online games don't have to be like this, so perhaps Verant have learned from experience. Or perhaps they haven't. Once bitten twice shy? Perhaps. Star Wars may become a wonderful game, or it might be eye candy wrapped around a compulsive (and not in a fun way), flawed design as EQ. Given there is already a plan for expansion pack in the works (Verant feebly justifies it as benefitting players to have less features in the basic game to give them time to explore their reduced world) and given it takes months to establish a mature world, perhaps its better holding off to see what the story is. Fools rush in as they say.

A big chat room (1)

Gyorg_Lavode (520114) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301565)

The opinions I've heard from people have been in beta are that it is an elaborate chat room for star wars junkies. As an everquest player I understand how online games function. What I have been hearing is that while the game is amazingly detailed and beautiful, it lacks the dynamics to have an exciting 'end game'. (The end game is the portion of the game where people who really commit to the game play. It is people who have maximized their skills and are killing the hardest mobs in the game.) It sounds like starwars does not have much content at this level, (which is required to keep people who play the game frequently happy).

So what the game may end up being is a place where casual gamers can go to chat about the day and to relax and kill a few things, but that the game is not ready for people to play to win. There are many other reasons people feel the game is not ready for release. You can read some of then at the thread on the subject HERE [ezboard.com] .

First hour of play (5, Funny)

cubicledrone (681598) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301573)

Go to Mos Eisley Cantina: mass of people randomly firing blasters

Go to Mos Eisley Spaceport: mass of people randomly firing blasters

Go to Toshi Station to pick up some power converters: mass of people randomly firing blasters

Go to Aunt Beru's kitchen for some blue milk: mass of people randomly firing blasters

Hide from stormtroopers in the Millennium Falcon's hidden bay: mass of people randomly firing blasters

Go to appeal to the Imperial Senate for trade rights: mass of people randomly firing blasters

Jump in the X-wing to defeat the Death Star: fly through a trench filled with a mass of people randomly firing blasters to fire proton torpedos.

(Three months later, after everyone becomes a Jedi, replace "firing blasters" with "waving lightsabers")

I wish, I wish... (1)

f0rt0r (636600) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301581)

...that I could pay to be a beta tester. What? $15/month? $12/month if I subscribe for a year? Sure! I will pay for the honor of helping you guys find all the bugs in your software because I because I am a Star Wars fanboi!!!

Welcome to Craft Wars Galaxies (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6301590)

I was chosen for beta testing of this game. I had huge interest in it, until I got past the character creation screen.

I pity the stupid fools who actually go out and buy this game. It is nothing short of boring, spend most of your time crafting stupid things, tending to house maintenance, running around endlessly in a random world.

SWG = Utter flop.

Checklist (5, Funny)

alexjohns (53323) | more than 10 years ago | (#6301608)

1. Wife: Divorced. Check.
2. Kids: Military school. Check.
3. Dog: Euthanized. Check.
4. Cats: Who cares? Check.
5. Friends: Gone. Check.
6. Phone: Disconnected. Check.
7. Doorbell: Ditto. Check.
8. Food: $500 worth on Top Ramen in pantry. Check.
9. Breaks: 10 cases of adult diapers. Trash can with lid next to computer. Extra liners. Check, check, check.
10. Power bill, ISP; Paid ahead for the year. Check, check.
11. Job: Hmmm. Reconnect phone. Dial. Ring. "Hi, Dave? It's me. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. I quit. No, no time to explain. Do whatever you want with the crap on my desk. Later." Re-disconnect phone.

Well, that's about it. Time to rip open that CD. Good-bye cruel world and all that. Hmm, I wonder if /. karma erodes due to lack of use. Guess I can check that in a couple of years.

Mycroft Kenobi, Obi-Wan's smarter (and better looking) brother is about to kick the Force's ass!

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