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Ink More Expensive Than Champagne

CmdrTaco posted about 11 years ago | from the silly-comparisons dept.

Printer 587

laing writes "According to this story, ink for home printers is now seven times more expensive than vintage champagne.Ink in a typical replacement cartridge costs about £1.70 per millilitre, compared with 1985 Dom Perignon at 23p per millilitre." Explains why I get daily spam about toner, but none at all for booze!

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587 comments

Hardcore dupe action (5, Informative)

mao che minh (611166) | about 11 years ago | (#6362591)

This was all covered earlier. The story posted by Michael earlier today [slashdot.org] about Lexmark's DMCA suit contained a link to a BBC article [bbc.co.uk] showing the price of ink to be higher then that of vintage champagne. The 1.70 per millitre thing was even covered.

You guys are editorial juggernaughts.

Re:Hardcore dupe action (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362603)

A link in a story is not a story. Knee jerking reactionary facist moron.

Re:Hardcore dupe action (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362628)

Hahaha... excellent reply :)

And totally right as well.. its hardly like /. are claiming it to be their own work. Sheesh.

Re:Hardcore dupe action (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362675)

It was the most discussed and shocking aspect of the entire Lexmark story, therefore making it easily recognizable and this story redundant, as it has been very recently discussed. You square headed conservative idiot.

Re:Hardcore dupe action (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362755)

Yeah, well not everyone reads every damn article to look for other stories that might show up somewhere in the links. If you've got that kind of spare time on your hands, then might I recommend that you go fuck yourself?

Re:Hardcore dupe action (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362807)

Some people are smarter then a bowell of shit and notice these types of things. If you are not smarter then a bowell of shit then I suggest that you go fuck yourself.

Re:Hardcore dupe action (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362875)

Is that 'bowl' or 'bowel', fuckflap?

Re:Hardcore dupe action (5, Interesting)

snazzed (591487) | about 11 years ago | (#6362795)

I found the repost useful. Reading the Headline and summary on the HP - DMCA article, I had no interest in reading the full article. Hence, I never read anything about the cost of Ink.

Reposting the story with a different theme may get the attention of people who may not have been interested in the original story... people like myself. The link may be a Dupe, but the idea behind the posts were not.

Thanks
Snazzed

Reassignment of terms. (5, Funny)

Ignorant Aardvark (632408) | about 11 years ago | (#6362593)

Ink costs more than champagne? What?! That's not the natural order of things. To correct this problem, the French must immediately start drinking printer ink and printing with champagne. That should kill a few problems with one stone (sorry for the mixed metaphor). To clear up the resulting confusion we will call printer ink "Freedom Champagne" and champagne, "printer ink 2: full-speed".

Re:Reassignment of terms. (5, Funny)

Uart (29577) | about 11 years ago | (#6362631)

what will really blow your mind is when you realize that gasoline is cheaper than bottled water...

Re:Reassignment of terms. (1)

kormoc (122955) | about 11 years ago | (#6362680)

$0.25 a gallon? Wow, where do you get gas from?

Re:Reassignment of terms. (1)

Ignorant Aardvark (632408) | about 11 years ago | (#6362700)

what will really blow your mind is when you realize that gasoline is cheaper than bottled water...

Good thing I don't buy bottled water, otherwise I'd consume "drinking gasoline" and pour "combustible bottled water" in my car in an attempt to save money.

Re:Reassignment of terms. (0, Troll)

Bill Currie (487) | about 11 years ago | (#6362822)

Gasoline is cheaper than alcahol. Here in Alberta gasoline is bouncing around 70 cents/litre. Beer is about $4.44/liter (6 pack of 375ml bottles costs $10)

Re:Reassignment of terms. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362880)

DUH!!!

Of course petroleum is cheaper than alcohol. Otherwise we'd all be using pure ethanol in our cars.

(I mean, we'd be using it for the purpose of combustion.)

Re:Reassignment of terms. (1)

neverkevin (601884) | about 11 years ago | (#6362883)

Well, If my car ran out of gas in the middle of no where and I had only $10 and a choice between $10 in gas or $10 in beer, I'd be really drunk.

Re:Reassignment of terms. (2, Informative)

nr (27070) | about 11 years ago | (#6362819)

Yep, and weed growing in your garden is more worth than gold!

Re:Reassignment of terms. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362902)

what will really blow your mind is when you realize that gasoline is cheaper than bottled water...

This is why I laugh every time one of those nutcases claims to have invented a car that will run on pure water.

+5 Funny! Mod parent up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362636)

See title.

And the buzz is better (5, Funny)

Lane.exe (672783) | about 11 years ago | (#6362596)

Plus, the rad high you get from sipping ink completely blows away that bubbly kind of drunk you get when you pound the Christobal.

yummai (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362599)

Crissy!

On the other hand... (5, Funny)

Raindance (680694) | about 11 years ago | (#6362610)

People are taking this so negatively; just revel in the fact that champaign is so cheap!

Explains? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362620)

Explains why I get daily spam about toner, but none at all for booze!

I <hic /> don' know what yer takin' 'bout. <hic /> I get those spams alla time.

Hmm? (2)

Squidgee (565373) | about 11 years ago | (#6362625)

Champagne.ink? Has someone been coding in Java too much recently...? =p

Toner vs Booze (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362627)

I get daily spam about toner, but none at all for booze

The thought of even drinking the ink, or snorting toner sends shivers up my spine! Urghhh! Us geeks know how to have a good time eh? ;-P

Toner (1)

My name isn't Tim (684860) | about 11 years ago | (#6362629)

if you think toner is expensive you should see the cost of MICR toner used to print cheques

You don't get any for booze because... (2, Interesting)

gmajor (514414) | about 11 years ago | (#6362639)

You don't get any for booze because the ATF would go postal on spammers. They take their job very seriously.

Re:You don't get any for booze because... (1)

Oirad (19452) | about 11 years ago | (#6362716)

You make that sound like a bad thing.

Full text in case of slashdotting... all of it: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362640)

Ink more expensive than champagne
3 July 2003

Ink for home printers is now seven times more expensive than vintage champagne.

Ink in a typical replacement cartridge costs about £1.70 per millilitre, compared with 1985 Dom Perignon at 23p per millilitre.

The news comes as a Which? survey shows that many cartridges say they are empty long before they are. Some printers warn users that the ink is about to run out.

Ignoring the warnings can nearly double the printing output.

Comparing apples and oranges. (0)

DumbMarketingGuy (171031) | about 11 years ago | (#6362646)

Printing ink doesn't taste very nice. Champagne doesn't make for very clear printouts. What is the point of this futile comparision ?


Anyway, why do we need all this hard copy anyway ? A more interesting article could be written on the technological tricks the Chateuax Petrus has used to ensure a good grape harvest.

Champangne business model (1)

InferiorFloater (34347) | about 11 years ago | (#6362870)

Fancy restaurant starts you off cheap, with like a 4 dollar beer or 7 dollar mixed drink... but by the end of the night you're shelling out $200 for the dom perignon to maintain the drunken stupor!

Get the word out to the people! This is an injustice!

Is there an echo in here? (-1, Troll)

Atario (673917) | about 11 years ago | (#6362647)

/obvious

Slashdot is too UK-centric (4, Funny)

bdesham (533897) | about 11 years ago | (#6362651)

But seriously -- anyone mind providing conversions to USD?

Re:Slashdot is too UK-centric (1)

Some Woman (250267) | about 11 years ago | (#6362756)

The exchange rate generally hovers around 1.5 dollars/pound.

Re:Slashdot is too UK-centric (2, Informative)

BrynM (217883) | about 11 years ago | (#6362793)

As of today's exchange rate [x-rates.com] of £1 to $1.67179

£1.70 = $2.84
23p (£0.23) = 38 ($0.38)

Re:Slashdot is too UK-centric (5, Funny)

dinog (582015) | about 11 years ago | (#6362864)

USD $2.84

Thanks to : http://www.xe.com/ucc/

So a bottle of Lexmark ink would cost USD 2132.00. Unfortunately, it doesn't taste nearly as good, and goes rather poorly with lobster. The initial bouquet is bad, the nose just aweful, and the horrid taste sticks to you tongue like, well, ink.

Dean G.

I read this in the metro this morning (1)

odyrithm (461343) | about 11 years ago | (#6362655)

the Manchester(UK) metro this moring, the Metro for all those who dont know is the free bus read in the morning.. I dont know if its just me but its amusing that the Metro got the story out 16hours before /.

Ink is too expensive (5, Insightful)

jared_hanson (514797) | about 11 years ago | (#6362656)

I've long held the belief that ink for inkjet printers is way to expensive. I bought a cheap laser printer 4 years ago, for about twice that of a nice inkjet printer. However, I am still using the same toner cartiridge that came with it. I've probably saved myself 10 times the money by going with a laser printer. Yeah, I can't print in color but that does not bother me. I'm not sure how the price of toner compares to ink cartridges, but laser is the way to go.

Re:Ink is too expensive (2, Interesting)

odyrithm (461343) | about 11 years ago | (#6362718)

one pretty nagling problem with companys using color printers is that when the black cart goes the color suffers and instantly the user thinks its the color cart thats gone.. so wanders to tech to get another.. end of the day Im sure you can see whats happened.. and how much money is wasted/lost.

Re:Ink is too expensive (1)

temojen (678985) | about 11 years ago | (#6362800)

Hmm, our printer has an LCD display with bar graphs for each cartidge.

Re:Ink is too expensive (1)

odyrithm (461343) | about 11 years ago | (#6362818)

your pretty lucky then ;P

No Kidding (1)

GFunk83 (686657) | about 11 years ago | (#6362657)

I know it's expensive, but when you're choosing between champagne for your "lady-friend" and a $30 ink cartridge, what do you do?

Re:No Kidding (1)

bobaferret (513897) | about 11 years ago | (#6362841)

depends on wether or not you want to print her out in color so you can take her to the bathroom. Or risk spilling fluids all over your screen.

fuck you faggo (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362660)

Somebody scream bloody murder, inside of my head
The exuctioner's plot controlled by the feds
Take illegal action, they want Mumia dead
This nation of savages been trying to kill us for years

[Tragedy Khadafi]
Yo, federal indictment, militant mind enlightment
Son, we outburst, in the court room, full of excitement
Face the jury, thugged out, with blind fury
They want us all under the jam, end of the story
Brave and heartless, we can have a million marches
But when you black you under attack, son regardless
Live by the gun, dunn, and die by the gun
And revolutionize minds until freedom's won

[Black Thought]
Check it out, they want us knocked locked down boxed up in the ground
It's war time now from how the sufferin sound
We deep in the realm, the planet petrified overwhelmed
We all stars livin life out on surveilance film
New World law enforced, mind rape, cerebral holocaust
No escape, fire for burn the execution date shatter
We on the front lines prepared
I want Mumia out the cage the time for action is here

[Pharaohe Monch]
When you take the attempted assassination of Mumia Jamal they set em up
I come to find out, Tupac they wet 'im up
Pharaohe, standin behind my fucking curtains
with a double-barrle rehearsin
Ready for war now for certain
Uh, biological warfare suits
Black gas masks, black boots, half-assed niggas become troops
My tons of global warriors is booty now
Plenty thug niggas is fruity now

Chorus: 2X

[Chuck D]
As you peep the illusion cuz I see my peoples losin
The overall battle to keep republicrats from choosin
Afterall, I feel the bruisin of the constitution
When my back's against the wall, manifestin in their destiny
Shit they just testin me, Mumia's spirit blessin me
No alibi, I know Allah is not their alli
I believe I can fly, but their type of freedom is a lie
So fuck the government, C.I.A. and F.B.I.

[Last Emperor]
Shatan will destroy anything for the right price
In a physical world one man cannot die twice
To the spiritual world your soul cannot fly twice
Yet could this be the second time they crucify Christ?
Ask Ed Asner, the actor, after they execute him
There will be a peasant uprising like the French Revolution
In conclusion, if you detect evil
Free the voice of the voiceless, defender of oppressed people

[Dead Prez]
I say, "fuck the police," cause they been killin us for years
This ain't no free country, niggas get murdered for their ideas
Free Mumia means all Africans let go
Cause just livin in the ghetto puts you on death row
You don't know? You seen how the tried to do Assata
Till some real niggas organized theyselves and went and got'er
Lotta crackers verbalize if Mumia dies, fire in the skies
But only time'll tell the truth from the lies

just buy a laserjet (5, Informative)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | about 11 years ago | (#6362664)

My annual operating cost for an $800 HP LaserJet 2200 is about a $100 for toner.

Sure, I paid a lot more up front, but having to spend $100 every two months to maintain an Epson Inkjet added up quickly.

Printer mod, chip resetters... (1)

pacc (163090) | about 11 years ago | (#6362670)

Everyone buying ink in bottles keeping
control of both quality and price should
post their methods and experiences so
we don't have to use this thread to whine
about suspect business methods anymore.

Bootlegging (5, Funny)

retto (668183) | about 11 years ago | (#6362671)

Does this mean people are going to start bootlegging ink? Will the great crime families ditch the drug trade for the undergound ink market? I fear the day our great cities are brought under the heel of the ink barons.

Ink (4, Funny)

nother_nix_hacker (596961) | about 11 years ago | (#6362672)

I tend to find the 86' Lexmark ink has a fruity taste which can be complimeted only by a good mature cheese and a decent toner cartrige.

Re:Ink (4, Funny)

nick_davison (217681) | about 11 years ago | (#6362884)

Personally, I prefer fava beans and a nice Epson. Thththththththth.

lucky drunks (5, Funny)

abe_is_fun (320753) | about 11 years ago | (#6362674)

Even though ink is more expensive than fine champagne, and therefore is better than fine champagne (proof by induction), you shouldn't drink it.

It would stain your teeth some ugly color like #006666, and you would never get a date and you would die cold and alone, a pitiful 30 year old virgin.

Instead, drink beer -- it's been helping ugly people get laid for over 200 years!

Quick! (-1, Flamebait)

The Bungi (221687) | about 11 years ago | (#6362679)

Someone come up with a joke about expensive drunk printers and we'll have a new Slashdot meme on our hands! Bonus points for slipping "SOVIET RUSSIA" and/or "hot grits" somewhere in there! Duty calls!

Re:Quick! (3, Funny)

SharpFang (651121) | about 11 years ago | (#6362764)

Imagine a beowulf cluster of drunken soviet cartritges that refill YOU!!!

also (4, Informative)

abhisarda (638576) | about 11 years ago | (#6362682)

Explains why I get daily spam about toner, but none at all for booze!.

Sending booze by mail across state lines is not legal in many places.

Re:also (1)

prockcore (543967) | about 11 years ago | (#6362897)

Explains why I get daily spam about toner, but none at all for booze!.
Sending booze by mail across state lines is not legal in many places.


Yes, but what does that have to do with spam?

Are you implying that the people who send spam actually fullfill their orders?

I thought they just took your money and then laughed at you for sending money to an anonymous jackass on the internet.

Other shocking comparisons.. (5, Funny)

L. VeGas (580015) | about 11 years ago | (#6362684)

Pound for pound...

Poodles cost more than horses!

Crack whores cost more than fatties!

Eardrums cost more than eyeballs!

Model car kit paint is astronomically pricy. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362779)

1/4 of an ounce will set you back a dollar. That means one gallon will cost you $512.

You think that's pricy? I advise you not to look at the cost of perfumes or colognes then.

Worms more expensive than steak! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362894)

That's nothing. You should see the cost of worms. This week, 250 grams of mail-order worms cost me 4UKP (say $6). So much for the urban legends about worms going into McBurgers. I bet they just use cheap filler ingredients instead, like ground up cow.

Fortunatelly, is just the ink (3, Interesting)

nbarr (666157) | about 11 years ago | (#6362688)

This happens with ink. How fortunate we are that other stuff for computers cant be sold the same way ink is.

Its a good strategy selling cheap hardware, and than charging huge amounts in the stuff needed to make the hardware function. Should this be illegal?

Re:Fortunatelly, is just the ink (1)

pirodude (54707) | about 11 years ago | (#6362846)

You mean like buying a $200 pc from walmart and having to spend almost that much on just the operating system?

Re:Fortunatelly, is just the ink (1)

agilen (410830) | about 11 years ago | (#6362877)

Its a good strategy selling cheap hardware, and than charging huge amounts in the stuff needed to make the hardware function. Should this be illegal?

Last I heard, the Xbox wasn't doing too well.

Off topic but interesting point about ink. (1)

Genjurosan (601032) | about 11 years ago | (#6362699)

This post reminds me of when the Mayo Clinic informed me that they make their own ink to keep costs down, since they like to insource as much as possible. Perhaps it was the cost of outsourced ink. From IT to Ink there are good reasons to do it yourself.

I just found it interesting that the Mayo Clinic, as far as I could tell by working with them, is a company that is going the opposite direction as most IT companies when looking at sourcing projects.

Re:Off topic but interesting point about ink. (3, Funny)

Mononoke (88668) | about 11 years ago | (#6362801)

This post reminds me of when the Mayo Clinic informed me that they make their own ink to keep costs down...
Ok, I know where they would get large quantities of red and yellow, but where do they get the other two colors?

GAY SEX (-1, Offtopic)

niggersex (686366) | about 11 years ago | (#6362701)

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repeat? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362702)

Don't worry about slashdot articles getting overpriced.

Repeats [slashdot.org] seem to be a dime a dozen..

It's been done. (0)

packethead (322873) | about 11 years ago | (#6362709)

This one I think is called a yink. And all he does is drink drink drink. And what he likes to drink is ink. And the ink he likes to drink is pink.
so, if you have a lot of ink, you should get a yink, I think. -Dr. Suess

Re:It's been done. (1)

packethead (322873) | about 11 years ago | (#6362812)

and to elude to an earlier story:

Celui-ci que je pense s'appelle un yink. Et tout qu'il est boisson de boissons de boissons. Et ce qu'il aime boire est encre. Et l'encre qu'il aime boire est rose. ainsi, si vous avez beaucoup d'encre, vous devriez obtenir un yink, je pensez. - Dr. Suess

and now, when translated back:

This one I think is called has yink. And all He does is drink drink drink. And what He likes to drink is ink. And the ink He likes to drink is pink. so, yew you cuts has batch of ink, you should get has yink, I think. - Dr. Suess

Where can I sign up for that M$ IM client???

The sheer wastefulness of ink marketing (4, Interesting)

robogun (466062) | about 11 years ago | (#6362710)

I usually get the generic cartridges for my pre-chip Epson. When they ran out of those, I had to buy the "economical" two-pack of genuine Epson.

Aside from the $40 cost (deep-discount, as I understand), just getting the cartridges out from all the packaging was a chore. It was like peeling an onion. It was time- consuming. I needed a knife to get past the hard shell. There were slick-coated 4-color ads in and on the packaging.

The resulting stack of garbage took up half the wastebasket -- not including the spent cartridges, which I am starting to save for refilling.

Knowing I paid for all that glossy, 4-color trash makes me highly reluctant to buy those genuine cartridges again.

Get Smart (5, Funny)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | about 11 years ago | (#6362712)

Chief: This desk runs entirely on ink.

Max: But chief, that's incredible. Do you realize what this could mean to our energy supply?

Chief: Unfortunately its an extremely rare type of ink that can only be found in the Middle East.

Yes I'm paraphrasing, but that's the first thing that came to mind;-)

Stupidity makes sense at last (4, Insightful)

Cali Thalen (627449) | about 11 years ago | (#6362713)

This has been going on for a while, it shouldn't surprise anyone. Manufacturers are getting cheaper (not all their own faults, but it's a fact of life for most consumer grade items). The make crap and hope to keep selling it, because other manufacturers are finding cheaper ways to produce the same goods (usuallt with offshore labor, but not always).

So...in the end, they produce crap and try to make up profits elsewhere. In the printer business, that's either paper or ink. And not a lot of printer manufacturers are selling much expensive paper. And, they're not liekly to beat the paper industry at inexpensive paper either.

Me, I cut printer costs by saving everything on $0.50/GB hard drives instead of printing, always cheaper in the end.

Re:Stupidity makes sense at last (1)

b!arg (622192) | about 11 years ago | (#6362765)

I know I always make a joke along the lines of buying a new printer is cheaper than getting new ink cartridges. Does anyone out there know of a printer out there that would make this true?

Re:Stupidity makes sense at last (1)

Ewan (5533) | about 11 years ago | (#6362896)

dell [dell.com] dell are selling a lexmark Color Jetprinter Z35 for £33 ($50?), that's cheaper than both a full colour and full black and white cartridge, but often now these ultra-cheap printers ship with a half-full cartridge to make people buy more. Ewan

Open Source Solution? (0, Offtopic)

pjdepasq (214609) | about 11 years ago | (#6362722)

Isn't there some type of Open Source Solution for this problem? Shouldn't there be one? We need to get a group together and create an Open Source printer. Then we need a similar ink solution helping to drive down the prices.

Re:Open Source Solution? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362796)

We need to get a group together and create an Open Source printer. Then we need a similar ink solution helping to drive down the prices.

At which point ideological differences will cause a fork in printer development resulting in an ink cartridge that looks similar but can't be used on the other printer.

P & £ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362725)

How many "p" equal 1 £?

Re:P & £ (1)

sleadlay (230271) | about 11 years ago | (#6362778)

100

Re:P & £ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362798)

100.

~~~

I wonder when (or if?) (1)

SharpFang (651121) | about 11 years ago | (#6362727)

...there will appear a printer company that doesn't do nasty tricks about its cartridges and sells printers and materials at reasonable prices. I'm sure there is a large market for this.

Like: Cartridges with "refill valve", authorised "refill sets" and "cleaning units" (so dried cartridges could be reused), the cartridge capacity used in 100% and not lowered, new cartridges that come with the printer full, not just with enough ink for 5 pages, and nothing that would try to make your cartridge useless sooner than it just rubs off against the paper or gets broken in some other "normal way". Plus user policy that grants not changing that.

I'm sure "per customer" profit would be way lower, but sales would beat all the competition.

Good Ink (1)

ebpotter (686664) | about 11 years ago | (#6362734)

The 1997 Epson is printing quite nicely. Too bad ink doesn't get better with age.

Damn (1)

Stonent1 (594886) | about 11 years ago | (#6362749)

Unlike Champagne, ink becomes useless with age, your drivers turn up their nose at an old cartridge. Damn expiration dates.

Stupid comparison (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362751)

Yeah, and a gallon of milk costs more than a gallon of gasoline. So what ?

You post this absolutely ridiculous story, and I'm still waiting for the Terminator 3 review.

Slashdot has finally jumped the shark.

Re:Stupid comparison (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362797)

Yeah, and a gallon of milk costs more than a gallon of gasoline.

You obviously don't live in California.

Re:Stupid comparison (1)

ElectroKiwiMonkey (628003) | about 11 years ago | (#6362813)

You're waiting for /. to post a review of T3? Why? About a zillion sites have got reviews of it up already if you weren't too lazy to go look.

Re:Stupid comparison (1)

ChilyWily (162187) | about 11 years ago | (#6362865)

I agree for another reason: I drive thru a stretch of dairy farms on my daily commutte to work and if I were asked to go and milk those stinky cows under a constant barrage of pigeon/bird droppings I would be charging an arm and a leg too :)

And the winner is. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362759)

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I guess... (1)

gearheadsmp (569823) | about 11 years ago | (#6362760)

I guess this means I'm going to be giving my English instructor a bottle of champagne instead of a research paper this Fall.

Newsflash: Apples and Oranges vary in price! (4, Funny)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | about 11 years ago | (#6362763)

Is this one of those tests?

Champagne is to printer ink as:

a) Automobiles are to shoes.
b) Doorknobs are to bedpans.
c) Beach sand is to integrated circuits.

The answer is c because integrated circuits are computer related and this is slashdot...

Re:Newsflash: Apples and Oranges vary in price! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362825)

plus both are mostly silicon, loser.

But How Much is Inside (3, Funny)

the_pooh_experience (596177) | about 11 years ago | (#6362773)

Well according to this [cockeyed.com] , ink costs about the same as Chanel No. 5 Eau Du Parfum, but when was the last time you tried to print porn with parfume or champagne?

But is it FINE ink?! (0)

N10sb2002 (678259) | about 11 years ago | (#6362775)

Huh?! Is it?!

whats being done about it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362780)

Dell realized how much money is being made by all the printer manufacturers. They wanted a piece of the action. So they buy Lexmark printers, put the Dell logo on the front, and modify the printers so they only take Dell cartridges. Then idiots that think they are getting a great fuckin' deal on that $80 printer have to pay $30 for black ink and $30 for a 3 color cartidge. It makes people not want to print anything. Before they hit the print button they have to pause and think "Man, do i really want to print this? Its going to cost a couple dollars just to print..." I miss the days of dot matrix. This is one thing about the PC industry that really pisses me off. They must be making $20 profit on a $28 cartridge. I thought competition was supposed to keep prices in check? Is there a printer "cartel?" There is obviously some kind of price fixing going on here because I fucking know it doesnt cost $20 for a few CCs of ink

Inkjet vs Laser Printer (3, Informative)

divide overflow (599608) | about 11 years ago | (#6362789)

Explains why I get daily spam about toner, but none at all for booze!

Actually, it says nothing about toner and everything about the high price of ink. Note that:

1. Ink is for inkjet printers.
2. Toner is for laser printers.
3. Toner is usually MUCH cheaper per page than ink.

I've been waiting to find a color printing option that approaches the cost per page of a laser printer with the color quality and resolution of a good inkjet printer. So, has anyone here on Slashdot found an optimal solution that offers reasonably quick printing? Extra points for built-in network support.

Well which lasts longer? (4, Insightful)

donutz (195717) | about 11 years ago | (#6362802)

I mean, you drink some champaigne, take a piss an hour later, and it's gone.

You print out your term paper...and behold! It's still there! Way to go ink manufacturers!

Of course, you could always try your luck with pissing on a piece of paper...but I don't think your instructor would like to read your essay that you printed that way....

Not the only thing with surprisingly high prices (3, Interesting)

mnemonic_ (164550) | about 11 years ago | (#6362830)

It was reported several months ago that many prescription drug cost more than their weight in gold [naplesnews.com] . An excerpt (emphasis mine):
Lipitor, the anti-cholesterol medicine, costs about
20 times as much as gold, based on late-2002 prices from www.drugstore.com. Prilosec, used to treat ulcers and gastric reflux, costs 35 times as much. Prevacid, used for the same purposes, costs 25 times more.

Zocor, an anti-cholesterol medicine, is worth 33 times its weight in gold.

My New Businessplan (3, Funny)

sherpajohn (113531) | about 11 years ago | (#6362832)

1. Develope color printing technology that is cheaper than ink-jet.
2. Make scads of money
3. Buy one of the really prestigious Champagne "Houses" - they are so funny...they do not call them estates, but houses!
4. Hire the best chef in France to make lots of Hot Grits
5. Invite Natalie Portman over
6. Enjoy 3 course meal of Fine Champagne, hot grits and Natalie
7. Print out pictures of #6 on cheap color printer
8. Sell copies of pictures
9 Profit!!!!!

Makes sense (1)

Teahouse (267087) | about 11 years ago | (#6362853)

How do you think HP got the cash to buy out Compaq? God knows Carly had yet to make HP produce a decent PC themselves. Whole-lotta profit in those itty-bitty cartriges.

Not only is it less expensive... (2, Interesting)

OS24Ever (245667) | about 11 years ago | (#6362862)

...when you buy Champagne, the bottle is actually full. Plus there is no crime against refilling the bottle and using it for your own stuff.

What is all the fuss about? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362868)

Consider this:

1. Buy mint condition Epson Stylus Photo EX @ Goodwill for $8.

2. Buy (6) color and (6) black ink tanks from 'inkinablink' on eBay for ~ $45 delivered

3. Connect to Linux box and configure CUPS

4. Print. A lot. $53 per year, plus paper.

5. Printer breaks? Printhead clogs? Repeat step #1 as necessary. I 'upgraded' from a $20 Stylus Color 800 to the $8 Photo EX.

Come on people, use tha brain a bit, you don't have to go to CrapUSA to buy this stuff...............

DUPES!!! FUCKING DUPES!! SICK OF THIS SLASHSHIT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6362886)

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Sounds like "General's Hospital"... (2, Funny)

Jon Abbott (723) | about 11 years ago | (#6362892)

This whole champagne and ink thing reminds me of one of the weirder stories in the fortune files:

The General disliked trying to explain the highly technical inner workings of the U.S. Air Force.

"$7,662 for a ten cup coffee maker, General?" the Senator asked.

In his head he ran through his standard explanations. "It's not so," he thought. "It's a deterrent." Soon he came up with, "It's computerized, Senator. Tiny computer chips make coffee that's smooth and full-bodied. Try a cup."

The Senator did. "Pfffttt! Tastes like jet fuel!"

"It's not so," the General thought. "It's a deterrent."

Then he remembered something. "We bought a lot of untested computer chips," the General answered. "They got into everything. Just a little mix-up. Nothing serious."

Then he remembered something else. It was at the site of the mysterious B-1 crash. A strange smell in the fuel lines. It smelled like coffee. Smooth and full bodied...

-- Another Episode of General's Hospital

$17 for 24 refills (5, Informative)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | about 11 years ago | (#6362900)

Refill your Canon i320 printer that you bought for $40 (U.S. price) with this refill system: http://www.ims-ink.com/ [ims-ink.com] . It costs $17 at Costco and refills the black cartridge an estimated 24 times. The system also comes with bottles of colored ink; haven't calculated the color refills yet.
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