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Howard Dean to Guest Blog for Lawrence Lessig

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the celebrity-guest-to-celebrity-host dept.

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Ethanol writes "Starting Monday, Professor Lawrence Lessig (whom we all remember from Eldred v. Ashcroft) is going on vacation, and his weblog will be guest-hosted by Democratic presidential candidate Governor Howard Dean. Could this be a sign that a serious contender for President (tied for first for the nomination in the latest polls) has his head screwed on right about copyright law?"

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Well he has my vote (5, Interesting)

javiercero (518708) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426153)

I have seen a few of his appearances, and I must admit I am quite impressed with this guy. Then again maybe is that after 2.5 yrs of Mr. Bush my expectations for POTUS have been dramatically lowered.

Re:Well he has my vote (-1)

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Re:Well he has my vote (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426219)

You've got to be kidding. Have you done some background work on Dean? I live in VT, and the guy is as slippery as an Arkansas governor. If you look at his history on the issues he supports he's actually proposed and pushed the EXACT OPPOSITE over the last five years. He is, in fact, a centrist dem and not a far left evangelist.

I may not think Bush is the best option, but the better of two evils Dean is not. Basically Dean has repackaged himself to appeal to the far left which, because of the centrist nature of modern politics, has been disenfranchised by the dem party.

You could say hes trying to pull a reverse bush; solidifying his base with the democratic hearland and then moving out to centrists on specific issues... he'll probably make the push sometime six months or so before the election.

HOWEVER, there's a fundamental problem with that plan; the left isn't nearly as cohesive or well organized as the right, and he's depending on a skittish bunch.

He'll lose, but he'll guarantee no other democrats win either.

-rt

Re:Well he has my vote (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426244)

I think what you mean is the left isnt as mean-spirited or petty as the right.

I can see now how angry the right must have been when Clinton was in the office. They must have hated him so much their blood was boiling.

I hate Bush, but common decency (which the right doesn't appear to have) prevents me from wanting
to impeach Bush on the flimsiest of excuses, or find a way to recall him.

as for Dean being slippery, you've got to be kidding yourself. Bush campaigned as an outsider, yet he manages to rake in more campaign contributions for beltway insiders than Clinton ever did. He campaigned as compassionate conservative, and he is all for taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich. He is on track for dismantling Social Security and Medicare.

how is Bush a better of two evils? He may be a lying sunnavabitch, but at least he can pander to the right crowd?

Re:Well he has my vote (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426238)

This guy is a Lieberman supporter.
http://tinyurl.com/a48o

Odd behaviour (4, Interesting)

aeinome (672135) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426154)

Why would anyone let someone else keep their daily journal for them? And giving it away to a politician - that just begs for deep, dark secrets to be revealed.

Re:Odd behaviour (0)

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Re:Odd behaviour (1)

Roofus (15591) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426195)

I repeat... I... did not... have sexual relations with that woman.,

Being that you're posting on Slashdot on a Saturday night, we're all inclined to believe that you've had NO sexual relations other than Rosey Palm and her 5 friends!

Re:Odd behaviour (-1, Troll)

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Re:Odd behaviour (1)

Heartz (562803) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426198)

Why would anyone let someone else keep their daily journal for them? And giving it away to a politician - that just begs for deep, dark secrets to be revealed. Go get more hits maybe? Some bloggers just love to look at their counters spinning upwards.

Re:Odd behaviour (1)

aeinome (672135) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426222)

Go get more hits maybe?

That's the sad truth about entertainment in America, it seems. It has to be shocking or immoral to gain lots of interest.

Re:Odd behaviour (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426216)

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There's a thing (4, Interesting)

Apreche (239272) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426156)

Check out http://www.selectsmart.com/president/

it tells you which president to vote for based on your stance on the issues. I tested it out and it's very accurate. It gave me a reccomendation for green party 100% and Dean 96%. Since I really want Bush out and 3rd parties don't win, guess who I'm voting for? I'll probably read a few of his entries on Lessig's blog, and unless he's really unkosher this seals the deal.

Doesn't that suck? (1)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426185)

You choose between one of two candidates because the majority does as well. If all the people like you banded togethor, and we stopped pushing those that don't care to vote, third parties might win more often.

As for me, I'm a minor. Read: Taxation without representation.

Re:Doesn't that suck? (5, Insightful)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426214)

... or you change the system so voters aren't forced to choose between "throwing their vote away" and "choosing the lesser of two evils".


Basically you want a system that allows the voter to express more than just a single choice. There are several systems that would suffice; I myself like instant runoff voting because the process is easy to understand, and it lets me express my preferences in an intuitive "first choice / second choice / third choice" format.

Ack! (1)

Roofus (15591) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426188)

Al Sharpton ranked second on my list, right in front of Howard Dean. Should I be scared?

Re:Ack! (1)

RocketJeff (46275) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426204)

Al Sharpton ranked second on my list, right in front of Howard Dean. Should I be scared?
If you're not scared, your family should be!

Re:Ack! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426285)

That racist Al Sharpton doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning. He way too liberal.

Re:There's a thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426194)

Third parties generally do not win presidential elections due to the unfair qualifications. Just because they don't 'win' doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for them. Their views on certain issues are more logical and concise than any other Republican or Democratic candidate. Why not vote for someone who's views on issues are close to those of your own and not who has a better chance of winning the election?

Dean is actually a moderate. (2, Insightful)

HanzoSan (251665) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426200)



Dean is a moderate who has the balls to speak his mind, but when he was a governer his actions were very moderate.

He almost reminds me of Clinton.

Re:Dean is actually a moderate. (3, Insightful)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426239)

Dean is a moderate who has the balls to speak his mind, but when he was a governer his actions were very moderate.


Great! Maybe that will help him get elected, and then we might just have someone with integrity in the White House.


He almost reminds me of Clinton.


How I miss the days when the worst thing you could say about the President was that he was getting sexual favors from the wrong person... :^/


(yes, I fully expect 25 people to come up with worse things about him now... oh well)

Re:There's a thing (1)

RocketJeff (46275) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426220)

Thanks for the link - it was very interesting even though it only reinforced what I already knew:
1. Libertarian Candidate (100%)

Since I've voted for the Libertarian candidate in the past three Presidental elections, it sounds like I've been doing the right thing (for me, at least).

Re:There's a thing (3, Informative)

neema (170845) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426225)

Maybe the best bet would be to judge where your state is going. If it's clear that a candidate like Dean is going to win in your state (Dean or Kerry seem like they're going to win in California and New York, for example), then go ahead and vote for the green party. But if you're in Alabama, vote smart.

Poverty of choices (1)

ryants (310088) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426249)

I'm a Canadian and tried the above-mentioned site mostly for kicks. Are Americans really left with so little *real* choice? Observe:
3. Bush, George W. - US President (68%)
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (67%)
Is there really so little difference between the two main parties that the leading candidates for each rate so closely to each other?

Something is very wrong with that... that doesn't sound like a healthy democracy.

(In case you care, the 100% match for me was "Libertarian candidate")

Re:Poverty of choices (1)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426259)

Man, that's odd. I got the 100% libertarian and the sixtysomething Bush, but I don't remember Dean being up there as well. Granted I wasn't paying all that much attention to where I was compared to Dean...

Re:There's a thing (1)

Erwos (553607) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426261)

Wow, I'm 100% GWB, and 90% Libertarian... according to that site, anyways. Came as a surprise to me, seeing as I usually think like a moderate.

The top democratic candidate I had was Lieberman. Not a surprise - I'd probably throw a vote his way if I had the chance, mostly because I see him as the lesser of the three democratic evils in the race.

I keep thinking to myself, yes, Dean says what he means, but isn't that going to be a huge liability on the international policy front? Kerry has some issues from Vietnam that I'm antsy about. I don't particularly like Lieberman's views on censorship, but I was impressed with his performance in the debate he and Cheney had.

In any case, I'll certainly read the blog... perhaps Dean can change my mind.

-Erwos

Re:There's a thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426267)

My top three:
1. Bush, George W. - US President (100%)
2. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (79%)
3. McCain, Senator John, AZ- Republican

That site is pretty damn accurate except for lieberman.

Re:There's a thing (1)

Myuu (529245) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426291)

As a Green-leaning liberal, I was concerned about its 100% hit on Bush with no other alternative...until I did a whois, wonder who on Pennsylvinna Ave would create a website like that?

No, in real life. 83% for both Kucinich and Dean. What a surprise for a /.er.

Re:There's a thing (1)

naaff (313265) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426296)

No offense, but is it really that hard to provide a link [selectsmart.com] ?

Re:There's a thing (2, Insightful)

cphanson (587624) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426300)

Well, i'm pretty sure this site must have a political agenda leaning to the left. I mean c'mon... under Bush's bio [selectsmart.com] , this is what's listed for his foreign policy:
"Foreign Affairs: Has asked for a received Congressional backing to attack Iraq. " Compared to a 15 line paragraph about John Kerry's foreign policy.bio [selectsmart.com] Where is Bush's position on Afghanistan, Israel, Iran, North Korea, etc etc? The guy is the freaking president, and all we get is "Has asked for a received Congressional backing to attack Iraq."?? Someone is very selective about what they choose to hear on the news, and that someone is the webmaster of this joke of a website.

I would also question the way certain questions are posed... there's a lot of rhetorical bull$hit going on here. Don't even try to convince me this is some kind of nonpartisan "let me help you decide who to vote for" public service. Propaganda Propaganda Propaganda!!

Broken promises don't upset me. I just think, why did they believe me? - Jack Handey

Re:There's a thing (1)

1010011010 (53039) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426304)

My Results:
  1. Libertarian Candidate (100%)
  2. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (87%)
  3. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (82%)
  4. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (81%)
  5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (74%)
  6. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (71%)
  7. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (70%)
  8. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (70%)
  9. Bush, George W. - US President (62%)
  10. Graham, Senator Bob, FL - Democrat (51%)
  11. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (49%)
  12. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (30%)
  13. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (0%)
#1 and #2 are *so* much alike!
#6 is a dickhead.

"When [sic] I'm president, we'll do executive orders to overcome any wrong thing the Supreme Court does tomorrow or any other day."
- Dick Gephardt

Apparently Ol' Dick doesn't want to be President, he wants to be El Presidente.

So we have to choose? (2, Insightful)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426161)

Either sane copyright laws, with a socialist welfare state, or bad copyright laws, and imperialist invasion of countries?

Why do people continue to vote for republicans and democrats anyway?

Re:So we have to choose? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426169)

Hi dumbshit. "Socialist welfare states" like oh, say Canada or many european countries are doing pretty damn well.

Re:So we have to choose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426209)

Yes, with their higher tax rates and fewer liberties. Not everyone wants to spend money on their health care, and those countries force you to. And, of course, people tend to forget the big advantage other countries have over the United States: They have the United States military to protect them for free. Does Canada have to worry about invasion? No, because they know the United States would defend them if it came down to it. So do most European countries.

Re:So we have to choose? (1)

neema (170845) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426247)

I don't see what good that huge military is doing for us. I don't see any planes being flown into buildings in Canada, Sweden or any of those other countries. If you have a huge military, you're not just going to have them sitting on their asses, getting ready to defend the country. You're going to put it to use. And that starts trouble of it's own, with backlashes of it's own. So your need for increased defense is fed by the the tool you use for defense.

Or maybe I'm just wrong. Maybe it's because those other countries have "fewer liberties" then we do (one wonders where you get such facts given the current political climate, new legislation, invasion of civil rights and transformation of media outlets into mouthpieces in the US, [an interesting article that I read today being here [guardian.co.uk] actually, while it's not totally related]). Maybe that's why we have to live under the fear of the terrorism level rainbow. Because after all, that's why this all happens. "They hate our freedom", right?

Re:So we have to choose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426273)

Yes, they do hate our freedom. Look at the places in the world that hate us the most, they're among the least free in the world. Has the United States made mistakes in foreign policy in the past? Sure. Most countries of any international significance have (that includes Russia, England, France, China, etc.)

As Spider-Man says, with great power comes great responsibility. Being the most powerful country means having a responsibility to help others. I think the world is a better place for having the United States in it.

Re:So we have to choose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426271)

You seem like the dumbshit. Apparently you don't mind giving up a huge chunk of money that YOU earned to people that can't be bothered to work. Lame socialist fuck.

Re:So we have to choose? (2, Insightful)

plalonde2 (527372) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426170)

Because when they vote for third parties some moron wins?

Karma is overrated.

Re:So we have to choose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426203)

Heh, if I had known the person who had recieved the most votes would lose the election, I wouldn't have voted for Nader (and that was only to get him the 5%).

Hail to the thief.

Read some history (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426243)

It's happened before, and it'll happen again as long as we have the Electoral College. You don't need the most popular votes to win, simply the most electoral votes.

Re:So we have to choose? (3, Insightful)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426190)

I'll take option 1 if it means we'll get universal health care and quality education in the US. That's the only reason I'd be willing to pay higher taxes.

Re:So we have to choose? (2, Informative)

cowmix (10566) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426193)

"Either sane
copyright laws, with a
socialist
welfare state, or bad
copyright laws, and imperialist invasion of countries?"

I beg you to spend a little time reading up on Howard Dean. His
policies are far from a "socialist welfare state".

Re:So we have to choose? (1)

pavlov112 (548942) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426197)

Probably because until we institute a voting procedure a little more like this [eskimo.com] , our best chance for satisfaction is to vote for the major-party candidate that we dislike the least.

The choice is simple. (2, Insightful)

aeinome (672135) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426201)

1) Socialism could be improved here. Higher taxes are a small loss compared to the gains in education, health benefits, and social security. Capitalism is beginning to corrupt.

2) Because they're the ones who put their name out the most. America isn't too smart, and the average citizen does not look at all possible candidates, only the main ones. IMO, we shouldn't have political parties, because people tend to vote on party lines without even thinking about the person they are elected beyond their party.

Just my 2.

Re:The choice is simple. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426235)

Capitalism works when everyone plays by the same rules. It breaks down when rules are selectively enforced. Socialism creates a welfare state. Why work if you don't have to?

Re:The choice is simple. (1)

natrius (642724) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426274)

I couldn't agree with you more. People cry bloody murder whenever someone tries to raise taxes, yet everyone complains about how bad the American education system is. If people would just realize that they're gonna have to give up a little more of their paycheck if they want (more) decent teachers, then we'd already be on our waying to fixing this problem.

Money alone does nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426281)

Schools in Washington, DC are among the best funded in the nation and among the worst performing. You can't just throw money at problems and expect them to solve themselves.

Re:So we have to choose? (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426246)

Funny I do not remember American going into some socialist welfare state when Clinton was in office.

Dean is a moderate. (1)

HanzoSan (251665) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426264)


What the hell are you talking about socialist? Dean is the most moderate out of all the others, would you rather have a true socialist like Hilary Clinton, Al Sharpton, Dick Gephart?

Dean is moderate, he didnt raise taxes, read his viewpoints and ideas before you assume just because hes a democrat thats hes a socialist.

Bush is more socialist than Dean! Bush is the one providing welfare to Africa, Bush is the one who wants to spend all our money on rebuilding the middle east.

Talk about socialism, go talk to George Bush and teach him how to be a real conservative.

Until... (5, Funny)

pixelgeek (676892) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426166)

Could this be a sign that a serious contender for President...has his head screwed on right about copyright law?

Until some lobbyist backs up to his house with a truck full of campaign contributions

Urine (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426167)

What material is urine composed of?

Urine is normally composed of water and wasted products filtered form
the body. The kidney produces urine. The other main function of the
kidney is to regulate fluid balance in the body. It performs this
function by using a selective osmosis system. Basically, the way it
works is that electrolytes (dissolved salts like sodium, potassium,
calcium, carbonate, chloride) are pumped back into or out of urine and
blood so that in the end, just the right amounts of electrolyte and
water exit the kidney blood vein. The rest ends up in urine.
Interestingly, normal urine is sterile and has no bacteria.

Urine contains 95% water and 5% solids. More than 1000 different
mineral salts and compounds are estimated to be in urine. So far, our
scientific community knows of about 200 elements. Some substances are:
vitamins, amino acids, antibodies, enzymes, hormones, antigens,
interleukins, proteins, immunoglobulins, gastric secretory depressants,
tolergens, immunogens, uric acid, urea, proteoses, directin, H-11 (a
growth inhibitory factor in human cancer), and urokinase. Believe it or
not, scientists have know for years that urine is antibacterial,
anti-protozoal, anti-fungal, anti-viral, and anti-tuberculostatic!

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here (5, Insightful)

Farley Mullet (604326) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426176)

I actually kinda like Dean, but saying that someone is a serious contender for the 2004 election because he's tied for the nomination at this point is kinda like saying your kid has a serious NBA future ahead of him because he's tied for tallest in grade 3.

Re:Let's not get ahead of ourselves here (1)

localghost (659616) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426280)

He could stand a chance if he campaigns well. It'd be hard for him to campaign any worse than Gore did. Worst campaign ever. He could so easily have beaten Bush.

Dean is an unelectable nutcase (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426177)

The Republicans are praying that Dean gets the Democrat nomination.
It will reprise the George McGovern fiasco. Say it ain't so--Arrggh!

Kucinich is an unelectable nutcase (2, Troll)

Doktor Servo (679711) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426212)

If anyone in the Democratic field is an unelectable nutcase, it's Dennis Kucinich. He's pretty well bonkers. Dean seems pretty well-grounded. I like his issue positions and think he's a viable candidate. If he gets the nomination, he'll need a running mate with strong foreign policy skills; if Kerry places second, he's a good choice, or maybe Wesley Clark. Kerry's too cold, and Gephardt is too much a career politician. I'm going with Dean.

Re:Kucinich is an unelectable nutcase (5, Insightful)

Soong (7225) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426255)

No, he isn't. He's just progressive and speaks his mind and heart. He's offering a real difference to the boring business-as-usual old-boy networks in both parties. I for one favor someone who's going to go as strong and as long in the right direction as possible, given that Congress and The System will drag him down to making a merely moderate effect. Starting out with a moderate is saying "No, I don't really want things to change".

http://www.kucinich.us/ [kucinich.us]

Re:Kucinich is an unelectable nutcase (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426268)

Kucinich is too funny looking to have a chance in the video age. He is short. His face looks like a lawn gnome. His ears stick out like an extra-terrestrial. Horrible looking man. Is he married or is he gay? I can't imagine a woman marrying something that looked like him.

Re:Kucinich is an unelectable nutcase (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426305)

Why do you not like Kucinich? Is it because he was against the Patriot ACT? Because he's respected by the ACLU or the NAACP, but not the NRA or the anti-choice movement?

What exactly makes him a nutcase?

Better Questions (2, Insightful)

webword (82711) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426179)

Does this mean that Lawrence Lessig likes Howard Dean? If yes, why? What ideas? Are they friends? Does Lessig think Dean would be a good president? Does it mean that will see the "real" Howard Dean? What kind of traffic boost will Lessig's site get? Will people associate Lessig's ideas and writing with Dean's, and is that a good thing? What is Dean's real motivation behind this? As a geek, do you think this is a good idea? Will your grandmother care, and does it matter that she does not understand this blog stuff? What is your favorite color?

Re:Better Questions (1)

Roofus (15591) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426208)

In the great words of Samuel L Jackson....

"Say WHAT again..!"

"What?"

BAM!

Re:Better Questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426253)

Well, I believe Lessig is a "reformed" conservative Republican, aka a Libertarian. (Seems a lot of us reach the Libertarian party via that route.) It'd make Howard Dean a bit of an odd choice.

just the voice (0, Flamebait)

geekmetal (682313) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426181)

I have great respect for Governor Dean, and especially the clarity of his voice.

Glad that its not for his facial expressions ; )

Re:just the voice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426263)

yeah if you want monkey-like blank expressions, we can stick to the current president [bushorchimp.com] .

howard dean (4, Insightful)

pohl (872) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426182)

I celebrated July 4 by getting off my ass and carrying placards in parades and handing out literature for Howard Dean in two small towns in Iowa. I had never done anything like that before. I had to get up at 5:30 in the morning to do it, and it was worth it.

Don't get me wrong, I haven't exactly caught Dean Fever yet, although we see eye-to-eye on many issues and I'm really impressed with the level of grassroots support that he has. It would be nice to have a president that isn't already owned before getting into office.

But, then, I'd settle for a president that can use the word "imminent" correctly. I think Dean rises to that challenge.

Oh Great... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426186)

...Just what us dems need, another Mondale.

No F'ing way! (3, Funny)

HanzoSan (251665) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426189)



Howard Dean has the balls to be pro P2P?? If he has the balls to make a move such as this, I will vote for him on principle.

It seems these other politicians are spineless, but if he has the guts to do this, he deserves to be President.

Re:No F'ing way! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426234)

Now he's got the insane warezmonkey retard troll vote all locked up.

Re:No F'ing way! (1)

Stonehand (71085) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426251)

Insightful?

Funny, perhaps, as a reflection of the priorities of at least some elements of the Slashdot community.

Re:No F'ing way! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426256)

don't get me wrong here, i'm pro-dean here, but ...

don't take what a candidate says too seriously. remember, bush was pro-states rights, and went so far as to say that if a state wanted a pro-medical marijuana law, that they should be able to have one.

that's the same bush that sent in the ashcroft goon squad into california, has removed additional federal funds from any state that has medical marijuana laws, and sent ashcroft after oregon doctors that had the nerve to follow the multiply upheld state suicide law.

just because he's pro p2p now, doesn't mean his tune will change, but i for one hope it doesn't.

Dean was governor of my state... (4, Interesting)

Zergwyn (514693) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426205)

Overall, he didn't do that bad a job. In some ways Dean is actually an interesting mix of left and right. He is a former doctor, which partly explains a lot of his very strong positions with regards to health care. He certainly has come across as one of the strongest left standing democrats in many ads and articles, but he has an A grade from the NRA as he was not at all anti-gun ownership in Vermont. He is also reasonably fiscally conservative. Our state didn't go too overboard with spending, and we actually still have over 10 million dollars in our "rainy day fund," for what it's worth. My biggest quibble with his term was actually in regards to education, but a lot of that was the fault of the legislature and the courts (which ruled our old method was unconstitutional). Of the candidates, we could do a lot worse (come to think of it, we have been doing a lot worse) then Dean. Having met him, and lived with him as head of the state, I think he has some good ideas. I was actually kind of pro-war, but Bush has screwed us so badly on the domestic front in virtually every field, from economics to scientific research (VERY important to me) to basic civil rights, that I would vote for virtually anyone over him. I would recommend people look at his stands.

Re:Dean was governor of my state... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426286)

Having lived in MA for the past decade I'm embarrassed to say I have not heard of Dean until recently. What I like of him is that he appears to say what he feels like without backing down.

Sure, the current POSPOTUS is a "straight talker",
("bring em on" sigh) but he usually has to take back the idiotic stuff he says, or assign blame somewhere else (it's nice to have a bunch of obsequious lap dogs).

Much has been said about Dean's lack of foreign policy experience. I am amazed at this, because Bush's experience before election was when his daddy took him on rides on Air Force One.

He probably needs to be briefed as to where every African country on his itinerary is on an atlas.

Topic.. (4, Informative)

EinarH (583836) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426224)

"Could this be a sign that a serious contender for President (tied for first for the nomination in the latest polls) has his head screwed on right about copyright law?"

From the comment-section on LL's blog:

Good heavens. Dare I interpret Governor Dean's guest blogging on Prof. Lessig's site as a sign that he supports copyright reform?
...
But, good lord, if he's actually in substantial agreement with Dr. Lessig on the issue, it's like a dream come true. ...posted by Evan

LL responds:

Good point, and I should have made this clear: Dean's guest blogging says nothing about Dean's views about the issues I've been pushing here. I've never discussed these issues with any member of the Dean campaign. And as we don't (yet) determine elections, I'm not even sure that Dean has worked these issues out himself.

So please don't read anything into this more than the obvious: This is yet another way in which the Dean campaign has understood something about the net. ... posted by Lessig

It's a win-win deal. LL gets someone to blog while on vactation, Dean reach out to a couple of thousand potentional voters. But interesting anyway. Looking forward to reading this blog.

Gonna get me some popcorn (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426228)

We non-USians can look forward to a great Democrats vs Republicans /. flamefest.

Yeah ok (1, Flamebait)

geek (5680) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426230)

So we care about this why??

Dean is a socialist, openly so at that. He is about the last person in the world you want associated with your agenda if you want to be taken seriously.

If you don't like Bush then at least vote for a serious contender like Liberman or Kerry. Voting for Dean is a vote for socialism and state control over everything. You haven't seen big brother until someone like Dean takes control.

Re:Yeah ok (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426278)

Dude, who moderated this tripe up to 4? Dean's a centrist.

I prefer Kerry myself (1, Interesting)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426233)

Go to deanforamerica.com [deanforamerica.com] and read his economic plan? Well, what about his education plan? What plans???

My point exactly.

Kerry has a several plans to create more jobs, lower the deficit, and improve education and lower the cost of college education. Dean's only economic package is lowering the defecit. Thats it! Go to his website and prove me wrong?

Dean is popular because alot of liberals are very upset at the whitehouse and Dean loves to bash bush. He is more liberal.

Kerry is more moderate and has better appeal for middle of the road voters and has a better chance at unseating Bush. But the primaries are not the elections. Moderates tend to have more plans outside their special issues. For example Bush's economic plan is just more tax cuts. Clinton who is a moderate had several plans which created jobs.

If a president is on the far left or right the primaries will usually throw in opposites from angry voters that sometimes are too extreme for the general public. Recent examples include

1.)Jimmy Carter-> He was very liberal and Reagan emerged from angry conservative voters. ( He won because he was an actor and a great speaker) Majority of Americans hated his policies but did not think of Reagan himself as an extremist even though he was.

2.)Reagan - > Mondale. Mondale was too far from the left.

3.)Bill Clinton -> Need I say more. Bush is the anti clinton as you can get. He only won because of a blowjob. Incredible! Lieing about a war is not as bad as a blowjob.

4.)Bush - > Dean. If dean wins the primaries he will probably lose the elections. Americans fear and loath Managed health care and the right to see their own doctor. How did the republicans came to power in 94? It was the government manadated health care that scared them. Go to an ER in Britian and watch the long lines. Yes more Americans can now have health care but the quality will go down for the rich and those who already have it. Infact even Canadians prefer our system to their's in critical care. General care its the other way around.

The pendulum swings from angry voters on the far left and right. However Bush did run as a moderate and turned out to be more conservative then Reagon himself. This might be a weakness but a far left candidate has just a less appeal upon middle road voters, that they will vote for Bush because they are comfortable with someone who is more experienced. 64% of Americans claim that they will probably vote for Bush unless a democratic candidate appeals to them according to CNN.

Re:I prefer Kerry myself (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426257)

Correction education was added to his since the last time I visited.

**hits head with board**thunk***

Anyway I plan to go to a university and Kerry has a much better plan for institutions and not just public schools for children.

Re:I prefer Kerry myself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426289)

3.)Bill Clinton -> Need I say more. Bush is the anti clinton as you can get. He only won because of a blowjob. Incredible! Lieing about a war is not as bad as a blowjob.

So the fact people just found Gore kinda boring and couldn't really differentiate between him and Bush had nothing to do with Gore losing?

Re:I prefer Kerry myself (1)

jjh37997 (456473) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426297)

Dean's only economic package is lowering the defecit. Thats it! Go to his website and prove me wrong?

Hell, that's all I want! How can anyone expect our economy to grow when we've saddled ourselves with so much debt. Face it, the economy is too large and complex for anyone to control. A program here, a tax break there is not going to do anyone any good in the long run. However, paying down our debt to free up money for future generations will pay out real dividends.

Re:I prefer Kerry myself (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426301)

Politics isn't all about left and right. It's not a game where all you do is take the right number of steps in whichever direction and you win. We need someone who's going to say look, these are are most important problems that we have to do something about, and here's a plan. That's what's great about Dean. All the others are just trying to say the right thing to get elected. Dean is saying the things we need to hear, and that's going to get him elected. He has 4 or 5 things he keeps talking about (balance the budget, health care that can't be taken away, sane energy policy, fully funding education, and let's stop being the world's gladiators) which are important long term problems, and he has a plan to do something about them that has a good chance of working. Up to now IP hasn't been talked about by anyone, so this thing of Dean sitting in for Larry Lessig is fascinating. If he gets how important reining in IP insanity is, he will go from a great candidate to a dream candidate.

Another Candidate: (1)

Soong (7225) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426236)

This isn't exactly about copyright, but it is when you think about who has been pushing for the majority of the copyright measures we know and disdain:

http://www.kucinich.us/issues/issue_corporations .h tm

He looks like a good guy (1)

DumbWhiteGuy777 (654327) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426240)

He looks like a good guy, but his TV ad was pretty hilarious. Did anyone else see it on the Daily Show? "...And that is why I approved this ad"

Re:He looks like a good guy (2, Informative)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426299)

FWIW, the reason for that awkward phrasing is that the new campaign finance reform laws require candidates to state explicitely in the ads that they are the ones behind the ads. Expect to see more fun and creative ways of satisfying that requirement in the future, from all candidates.

Hmm. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426245)

"Could this be a sign that a serious contender for President (tied for first for the nomination in the latest polls) has his head screwed on right about copyright law?"

Could this be yet another ploy by a politician, promising everything before the campaign, and delivering nothing after being elected?

I'd love to believe otherwise. Sadly, that ain't happening. May this guy, if he does manage to get elected, prove me wrong.

/. slow to comment on Howard Dean's web success.. (5, Interesting)

cowmix (10566) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426248)

Shame on /.

Howard Dean has used the Internet, specifically blogs, better than any presidential candidate. Every day, you can read their official blog or countless other personal blogs that give up to the minute info on what doing on the campaign trail. I have never felt more involved, or informed in a presidential campaign until Dean's.

All this use of blogs and such as created a tremendous amount grassroots support. Unlike other candidates that have raked in 1000s of dollars from big interests, Dean's campaign raised more than any other Democratic candidate last quarter mostly via the web with the average donation being $66 dollars..

Anyway, I feel that no matter what Dean's positions are (btw.. I think they are great) /. should give a thumbs up to how he is doing biz..

Civics 101 (1, Insightful)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426266)

Could this be a sign that a serious contender for President .... has his head screwed on right about copyright law?"

So what if he does? The president is the head of the Executive branch, not a member of the Legislative branch. He does not make the laws. And his veto can't undo the dammage that has already been done. And while we could do a lot better with an elected president than with Bush, one issue hardly means the man would be a suitable leader or not destroy us with other policies.

Technology issues. (1)

hackwrench (573697) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426269)

Why has he been so closed lipped on technology issues. You can't find anything on his position on his site.

Howard Dean, my ideal candidate (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426270)

In US, the service sector produces 80% of the GDP. The service sector is based on human labor and IT infrastructures which, all together, consume less than 2% of the total US energy consumption. This is the new economy: low energy consumption, low environmental impact, high productivity.

This scared Mr. Bush (who first made money when he won a oil contract from Bahrain when is father was playing the first gulf war), Mr. Cheney (who was CEO of Halliburton and still gets money from it), Mr. Rumsfeld (who was director of ABB when it sold 2 nuclear reactors to North Korea) and Ms. Rice (who was director of Chevron).

They are doing everything possible to protect their old industry (energy, oil, nuclear) at the expense of our industry (information technology), the future of the US economy and the US environment.

I believe Howard Dean may be on our side.

Dean on Meet the Press (1)

natrius (642724) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426287)

This guy seems kinda cool and all, but have any of you guys seen him in an interview? I saw him on Meet the Press once and he was struggling to answer questions. But I'll give him a chance. Hopefully he'll prove himself in the upcoming months.

Dean is a good choice (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6426293)

We need a hardcore socialist/authoritarian president in this country and I feel Howard Dean would fill this need quite adequately. We need a strong president who will stand up to the nutcases and ban and confiscate all individually held guns and imprison those who don't turn them in. We need a president who will greatly increase and create new taxes to pay for greatly expanded and new social programs and more and better armed police forces and to build more prisons and/or concentration camps. I hope that Howard Dean makes Uncle Josef Stalin look like a capitalist pig. We need a more powerful police state, and Howard Dean will deliver!

campaign finance reform (2, Informative)

phantomlord (38815) | more than 10 years ago | (#6426295)

ok... so where are the people shouting about how Dean is getting the equivalent of a monetary donation that's not being given to other candidates? What is it that all the money that everyone on slashdot goes to fund? Media: ads, office staff, platform talks, getting their message out, etc. Lessig is more of less a political lobbiest of a special interest group, but many of the slashdotters believe the same thing he does, so it's ok in this case... we just need to shut up the ones we disagree with. If Rush Limbaugh were to run for office and stay on the air during campaign season, wouldn't all the CFR people whine that he has an unfair advantage? How about if he let a single candidate guest host his program for a whole week?
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