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Slashback: Benchmarks, Sobig, Blob

timothy posted about 11 years ago | from the broadcasting-from-a-new-coast dept.

Slashback 285

Slashback is back, with more this time around on NASA's G5 benchmarks, an in-depth look at the Sobig.E virus, an update on the Internet Book List (growing rapidly), the fate of both the Microsoft-purchased Virtual PC and one very unlucky sperm whale, and more. Read on for the details.

A good excuse to file purchase orders, too. Eug writes "Writing in this Ars thread, Craig Hunter of NASA gives details about his much-quoted dual-G5 Power Mac benchmarks listed here. This should answer some of the questions posed around the net about the methodology and potentially the validity of his benchmarks."

The lines between viruses and spam is thin enough already. Joe Stewart writes "There have been a lot of news stories lately about how Sobig and spam are tied together. I actually revealed this in a paper two months ago. Now with the widespread Sobig.e, it seems to have become a topic again. However, the major antivirus companies have once again left out the whole story - most of them currently rate Sobig.e as 'low damage.' This is because they haven't fully understood how the real payload of Sobig.e is delivered. I've written a followup paper describing the entire mechanism that Sobig.e uses to facilitate spam, identity theft and bank fraud. Sobig has evolved, and it is much harder to stop than before."

Is this the beginning of a long goodbye? inertia@yahoo.com writes "Microsoft has updated their Mactopia Web Site to include a section on Virtual PC. It's taken them since February 2003 to do this. On the site, they mention, 'In August 2003, Virtual PC for Mac will be available through standard Microsoft channels of distribution.' So it looks like they aren't killing it after all."

Simplicity itself is a nice ideal. webword writes "Building Accessible Websites by Joe Clark is now available online. As you might recall, Joe was interviewed on Slashdot back in December. Good stuff if you care about accessibility."

Not yet billions and billions served, but getting there. nzilla writes "The Internet Book List, which announced its creation earlier this year on /. has now reached 10,000+ entries and is still going strong. The Internet Book List (IBList) strives to be the IMDb of books. IBList is maintained exclusively by volunteers around the world."

Girlfriends drive strange endeavors. ceejayoz writes "This interesting article on MSNBC.com details the Degree Confluence Project - a project to gather a photographic record of the points on Earth where latitude and longitude lines meet. The article has links to some of the more interesting points. The project's website also has an interesting map showing all the completed confluence points."

We mentioned this project quite some time ago, and it's progressed quite a bit since then.

Uh, sir, you have some blubber on your collar there. Scoria writes "Chilean scientists have determined that a 12-meter mass of flesh discovered recently on a Pacific beach is actually a sperm whale, not an obscure 'giant octopus' as many researchers speculated. Scientists performing research at the Museum of Natural History in Santiago were the first to develop this conclusion after observing the presence of dermal glands unique to the species."

Code that pays tribute to the money in television. mondainx writes "Following(?) in the footsteps of Linksys, Tivo has made their source available for versions 2.0 through 4.0. Get the GPL source here. Sweet!"

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fp? (-1)

penis fish (671987) | about 11 years ago | (#6466723)

mebbe this is, mebbe it ain't. all i knows is incivism sucks cock.

Re:fp? (0, Offtopic)

AvengerXP (660081) | about 11 years ago | (#6467131)

First reply to FP woot

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Re:GNAA slashback! (GNAA Early Post System) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466982)

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Re:GNAA slashback! (GNAA Early Post System) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467072)

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For fuck's sake, why to we have see that same idiocy over and over ?

Re:GNAA slashback! (GNAA Early Post System) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467085)

Don't you ever sleep? Or do you just sleep at the same time I do?

Wow (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466730)

*ALL* these stories have been posted before. This has to be the worst dupe blunder EVER!

You people are actually paying for this stuff? Sad.

More Wow (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466737)

You're paying for Slashdot? Dude, you're such a nerd. Wait a sec.

Don't logitude and latitude meet everywhere? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466745)

Not the major ones of course, but tiny ones.

Re:Don't logitude and latitude meet everywhere? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467058)

Everywhere except the void which is your brain.

Re:Don't logitude and latitude meet everywhere? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467093)

No, I'm pretty sure they meet there, too.

Poor Sperm Whales (3, Funny)

Mshift2x (686015) | about 11 years ago | (#6466747)

First they get hosed when scientist were handing out animal names....now this!

Re:Poor Sperm Whales (-1, Troll)

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Re:Poor Sperm Whales (5, Informative)

Xeger (20906) | about 11 years ago | (#6466849)

Actually, I've heard it was sailors who first gave the sperm whale its interesting name.

The sperm whale has a huge reservoir of liquid in its head, with an oily sheen and a translucent, pale white color. The liquid solidifies under pressure (when the whale dives); current scientific thinking has it that the change in the liquid's density helps the whale adjust its buoyancy.

When early whaling crews first killed one of the beasties and slit it open, they encountered the oily stuff in its head but didn't know what it was....being sex-starved sailors, they jumped to conclusions, called the substance spermaceti, and named the whale after his unique feature: gallons and gallons of sperm in its head!

Re:Poor Sperm Whales (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467024)

In which case, shouldn't it be called semen... uhhh, ok, I guess why given these men were seamen after all....

Re:Poor Sperm Whales (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467043)

I'd of licked it up like a cat and a bit of milk.

Re:Poor Sperm Whales (5, Funny)

marko123 (131635) | about 11 years ago | (#6467217)

The Japanese call them Bukake Whales.

Re:Poor Sperm Whales (4, Funny)

bad_fx (493443) | about 11 years ago | (#6466912)

Hey, at least they didn't blow it up. [hackstadt.com]

Re:Poor Sperm Whales (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466917)

I'm From missouri, so suck it.

And in other news... (5, Funny)

Zeddicus_Z (214454) | about 11 years ago | (#6466753)

...a shattered bowl of petunias was found close by the splattered sperm whale. Police are treating the death of the petunias as suspicious.

Re:And in other news... (5, Funny)

JWSmythe (446288) | about 11 years ago | (#6466768)

"Oh no, not again."

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Re:And in other news... (2, Funny)

JoeShmoe950 (605274) | about 11 years ago | (#6467155)

And all the white mice die

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Re:And in other news... (1, Funny)

Allnighterking (74212) | about 11 years ago | (#6466974)

And the RIAA is attributing the death of the sperm whale to malicious file sharing programs worldwide.

VPC (5, Funny)

darkov (261309) | about 11 years ago | (#6466755)

'... Virtual PC for Mac will be available through standard Microsoft channels of distribution.' So it looks like they aren't killing it after all.

No, they're just going to mediocre it to death.

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Re:VPC (2, Insightful)

WatertonMan (550706) | about 11 years ago | (#6466864)

Actually Microsoft plans on bundling VPC with Office as a kind of "high end" version.

One can't help but wonder if it will use some of VPC's functions to help port software.

Doesn't MS-Word actually already run in a semi-interpreted Java-like language they developed back in the early 90's? I seem to recall something like that. Of course I think that Mac Zealot's complaints about MS-Word are vastly overstated. Especially when one compares to to the horrible status of AppleWorks which is a half-hearted carbon port and which still has lots of Sys9 elements to it. Yeah I'd like more OSX interface features like the font choser in Word. But its still vastly superior to any other choices on OSX.

MFLOPS/$ (1)

ketamine-bp (586203) | about 11 years ago | (#6466757)

From the article in Ars:
ie, MFLOPS/$ at NASA probably aren't the same as MFLOPS/$ somewhere else

Well, the funniest statement I could about NASA...

IBlist & IMDb (3, Insightful)

aeinome (672135) | about 11 years ago | (#6466766)

IMDb really shouldn't be called the Internet Movie Database anymore. They cover TV shows as well. Does this mean the IBList will go beyond books (novels, short stories, etc.) in into "literary works"? (comic books, poems, plays) Just a thought.

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Re:IBlist & IMDb (1)

sofakingl (690140) | about 11 years ago | (#6466855)

IMDb also does video games. How IBList would do something similar (software?), I'm not sure.

Re:IBlist & IMDb (1)

aeinome (672135) | about 11 years ago | (#6466889)

Interactive fiction, I guess.

GNAA RULES!!! (-1, Offtopic)

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Zealots! All of you! (4, Funny)

Valar (167606) | about 11 years ago | (#6466783)

Hm. I wonder how long until some /. arm-chair technologist declares NASA a facist-Mac-worshipping-zealot organization. Maybe he/she will top it off by saying, "Well, if they really do use macs, I have trouble believing they could have possibly landed on the moon."

Wonder no longer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466798)

I declare NASA a worshipping-zealot organization. Well, if they really do use macs, I have trouble believing they could have possibly landed on the moon.

Re:Wonder no longer! (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | about 11 years ago | (#6467115)

I have trouble believing some people make it across town alive on most days.. Lately, some don't. [latimes.com] . 10 dead, 60 injured, because an old man doesn't know how to operate his car. He pressed the gas instead of the brakes. The rest is history.

If I was an alien species monitoring and evaluating the Earth, I'd have to say humans would never achieve space travel.

Luckly, I'm human, waiting for NASA to ask for volunteers to be colonists on Mars. :)

Hey, it could happen in my lifetime.

Re:Wonder no longer! (1)

michrech (468134) | about 11 years ago | (#6467182)

But what if you get there and all the algae simply aren't where they are supposed to be and the pre-built habitat is in ruin?

Not so gung-ho now, are 'ya?!

Where is everyone? (4, Insightful)

blate (532322) | about 11 years ago | (#6466789)

What I found odd about the confluence points was that almost none of them where in populated areas. It just seems a little strange.

I guess it just goes to show that no matter how overpopulated the world seems, there is still a lot of wide-open space out there.

Re:Where is everyone? (1)

aeinome (672135) | about 11 years ago | (#6466823)

I guess it just goes to show that no matter how overpopulated the world seems, there is still a lot of wide-open space out there. I agree. I once heard that everyone in the world could fit on Cuba, if they were tightly packed, back-to-back. However, we could all probably comfortably fit on any continent.

Re:Where is everyone? (1)

senahj (461846) | about 11 years ago | (#6466880)


> I once heard that everyone in the world could fit on Cuba

ob. book: _Stand_On_Zanzibar_ John Brunner

Re:Where is everyone? (1)

fatboyslack (634391) | about 11 years ago | (#6467100)

Good Lord!
I'll try to be as normal as possible without being too caustic. At the moment the estimated world population is 6351506980 [ibiblio.org] Is there any way that you think that a single continent could support 6.3bil people? Food, Water, Waste disposal, electricity, transportation networks... It boggles the mind that anyone could consider this. *bah* Must get back to work. However, whatever.

Re:Where is everyone? (1)

michrech (468134) | about 11 years ago | (#6467198)

The affore mentioned person said that he had heard/read that we could all fit there, not that we could all live there comfortably.

Don't read into what people are saying. Sometimes what they are trying to tell you really is as simple as the words they use.

Re:Where is everyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466975)

bangladesh; eastern china; pakistan

Re:Where is everyone? (2, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | about 11 years ago | (#6467004)

> I guess it just goes to show that no matter how
> overpopulated the world seems, there is still a
> lot of wide-open space out there.

You have an urbanite's notion of "wide-open space".

Re:Where is everyone? (1)

blate (532322) | about 11 years ago | (#6467073)

Well, when they do a 360 panorama and I can't see a single building, telephone pole, or road, that qualifies as BFE nowhere to me :)

You're probably right, though. If one lives in cities too long, one begins to thing that everything everywhere looks like a city.

The lack of tarmac density is a good thing though... if means we don't have to drive too far to get away from "civilization".

Re:Where is everyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467101)

What are you talking about?? Here there are, in the middle of the ocean, and it is just full of people swimming around! [confluence.org] Just imagine what that the areas with land must be like.

Sobig (-1, Flamebait)

jinglecat (673072) | about 11 years ago | (#6466807)

This is what the Ladies say about me...

Re:Sobig (1)

Dave2 Wickham (600202) | about 11 years ago | (#6466914)

What, refering to your head?

Sorry, I won't do it again, promise!

Well of course ... (4, Interesting)

SuperDuG (134989) | about 11 years ago | (#6466808)

However, the major antivirus companies have once again left out the whole story - most of them currently rate Sobig.e as 'low damage.'

Of course they do, they didn't make this one. It's almost obsurd to think that there isn't some tie between anti-virus and virus creators. It may seem a little far fetched, but what better way to keep yourself in business than to make new business. Just like the mob ... some places would call this extortion, here we call it "Virus Protection"... guess if you call it something more than "Protection" it makes it okay.

The motive behind this virus was simple, spam blocking has actually gotten to be a threat to spammers, so what better way than relaying spam through innocent windows boxes on the internet. Though who knows maybe there's an unmarked envelope of cash sitting waiting for them. Or hell, maybe symantec didn't think they weren't making enough money and decided to take a little something from the spam industry to get a bonus for new sales.

Just because you pretend to not to see things in the world doesn't mean this world isn't the most evil cruel place immagineable.

Re:Well of course ... (2, Insightful)

groomed (202061) | about 11 years ago | (#6467220)

If Symantec is anything like any of the companies I've worked for, they are way too busy just attending the regular day-to-day business to invent and distribute new viruses. It's absurd to think that they could be this efficient, releasing new viruses into the wild every couple of months that work this well. Much easier, and probably just as effective, to just throw around some inflated numbers, like claiming billions upon billions in damages and what not.

What about Virtual PC for Windows? (4, Interesting)

corebreech (469871) | about 11 years ago | (#6466810)

Virtual PC for Windows is indispensible. I do so many great things with it...
  • running Linux and BSD
  • testing code on different Windows versions
  • having Virtual PC create an entire network of machines on my desktop so I can do network development
  • sandboxing weird code I might get over the Internet
  • justifying having lots and lots of RAM
  • etc.

If they kill it, or more likely, make it so I can't run non-MS OS's, I will be severely bummed.

OTOH, if they kill it, I will be tempted to pay the big bucks and go with VMWare and host it using Linux.

And then deal with the fact that I don't get to play as many games. Sigh.

Re:What about Virtual PC for Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466992)

They do have a windows port of vmware, so you wouldnt have to host it in linux

Re:What about Virtual PC for Windows? (1)

buysse (5473) | about 11 years ago | (#6467005)

What's wrong with VMware on Windows? I prefer a UNIX system myself, but there's no reason to forget about gaming just to have the equivalent of Virtual PC...

One Word: (1)

thebagel (650109) | about 11 years ago | (#6467059)

VMWare?

Wow.. it took MS as long as they said it would! (4, Interesting)

jbuilder (81344) | about 11 years ago | (#6466812)


"Microsoft has updated their Mactopia Web Site to include a section on Virtual PC. It's taken them since February 2003 to do this.


From the Connectix Aquisition FAQ: [connectix.com]


Q: What is the duration of the transition period after this transaction?
A: The transition period is approximately six months from today (February 20, 2003).


Imagine that. Microsoft said it would take six months and it took *looking at my calendar* six months! So what was there to complain about?

Reading comprehension, gang. It's a good thing! Just think, if JWZ had that ability, he wouldn't have had that nasty little toothbrush problem [jwz.org] !!

That's about as fair as it gets re: G5 speed. (5, Informative)

SlashChick (544252) | about 11 years ago | (#6466829)

Craig does seem to be about as fair as he can be regarding the G5 benchmarks he posted. If you read the whole thread, you will see that he used several different methodologies (compiler options and various compilers, mostly) to optimize both the P4 and G5 code.

Here are Craig's final numbers, as posted on Ars's website:

dual G4-1GHz Xserve (single CPU only): 105
dual G4-1GHz Xserve (both CPUs): 207
dual G4-1.25GHz PowerMac (single CPU only): 129
dual G4-1.25GHz PowerMac (both CPUs): 256
dual G5-2GHz PowerMac (single CPU only): 254
dual G5-2GHz PowerMac (both CPUs): 498
single P4 2GHz: 192
single P4 2.66GHz: 255
single P4 3.2GHz (extrapolated): 307

These numbers seem entirely reasonable to me. A single G5/2GHz G5 is approximately equivalent to a single P4/2.66GHz. This rings true to me -- Intel has never been known to squeeze every last bit of performance out of every chip, instead opting to continually push for higher and higher raw MHz. Thus, on a purely MHz/performance basis, Apple wins (as has been the case for years.)

However, in the dual-processor arena, things get muddier. Intel should have dual 3.4GHz Xeons by the time Apple's G5s are shipping. In raw performance, based on these numbers, the Xeon will have an edge over the G5. Plus, it will be priced lower... I priced a dual Xeon 2.4GHz with 1GB of RAM and a 120GB hard drive for a company that is buying a game server from us, and even with a 1U form factor (which is more expensive than a standard desktop case), the price came to $1705... a bit more than half the cost of the dual G5/2.0GHz. There is no question that the dual Xeon will outperform the G5 both in terms of raw performance and cost. The P4, however, doesn't have much edge over the G5 except for the cost.

For most of us, who are probably sitting on machines around 1-2GHz, almost all of the machines above, including the P4/2.66 and a single G5, will be a healthy upgrade. Despite Apple's high price point, I for one am happy to see them get back into the game... and I'm happy to see Intel have some real competition. A big thanks to Craig for doing the benchmarks... I'm sure this is just the first of many arguments about which machine is better!

about your cost comparison ($.02 warning) (3, Interesting)

pimpinmonk (238443) | about 11 years ago | (#6466971)

The dual Xeon 2.4Ghz you speak of, what are its other features? Firewire? USB2? Serial ATA? What video card? Apple sells a package, so you can't really compare it to that server setup.

They compared it to a Dell Xeon workstation which I agree with; it had the other peripherals and graphics power that someone doing rendering or other apps may need. For server uses and clustering, it would probably make sense for research orgs and renderfarm owners to wait for XServes, which will hopefully cost less than the desktop G5s.

Re:That's about as fair as it gets re: G5 speed. (3, Interesting)

captain_craptacular (580116) | about 11 years ago | (#6467032)

and I'm happy to see Intel have some real competition

Not to be a fanboy. But you're implying that AMD hasn't been real competition?

Seems like for roughly 3 of the last 4 years AMD was stomping Intel on a regular basis. Now they are in a lull between product lines and people completely write them off....

Re:That's about as fair as it gets re: G5 speed. (4, Informative)

Rura Penthe (154319) | about 11 years ago | (#6467060)

Yes, in scalar FP. If you vectorize this same app then the G5 trounces everything by nearly 10x. Of course only scientific applications (and very few of those at that) can really be vectorized in that fashion. :) But if you're doing vector fluid dynamics calculations you can't beat any machine with Altivec!

Re:That's about as fair as it gets re: G5 speed. (2, Interesting)

Graymalkin (13732) | about 11 years ago | (#6467227)

Craig also said in his paper that the 20% performance advantage the 3.2GHz P4 enjoyed over the G5 could be made up for with G5 specific optimizations made to the Jet3D code. The code tested was basically the G4 savvy version. It is interesting that even using wholly unoptimized code the G5 trounced the G4 and held up pretty well to the P4. Depending on the application I would bet the G5 could keep up with a 3.2GHz P4 in scalar FP math.

In Vector FP math the G5 is going to mop the floor with just about anything you throw at it. If you were going to use the G5 for scientific number crunching it is entirely likely you'd do your best to vectorize as much of your code as possible. For such applications the G5 enjoys a 10x performance and thus price advantage over the Xeon based workstation you priced. For some people the G5 as a number crunching workhorse is going to be a real winner, for others the Xeon is going to keep the place running. Regardless of who uses it the G5 is pretty damn impressive.

now they just need a powerbook G5 (-1, Flamebait)

Linwood (652814) | about 11 years ago | (#6466836)

140% faster on the G5 than the G4, yeah, guess i'll wait til they throw that bad boy in the pbook before i do the 'switch' Linwood

Whales (1)

rf0 (159958) | about 11 years ago | (#6466844)

I have to ask how did the whale get in that shape in the first place? Attacked by humans or something more sinister

Rus

Re:Whales (2, Funny)

The Bungi (221687) | about 11 years ago | (#6466893)

Probably signed up for Earthlink, logged into Slashdot and clicked on a goatse link. Heart attack and the rest is blubber.

Re:Whales (4, Informative)

RollingThunder (88952) | about 11 years ago | (#6466966)

They die, they bloat from rotting, they float for a while (the skin is really tough) until they finally rupture. The fatty chunks that washed up are all that's left by that point.

Re:Whales (1)

quasi_steller (539538) | about 11 years ago | (#6467034)

I have to ask how did the whale get in that shape in the first place? Attacked by humans or something more sinister

I vote for something more sinister. :) It probably died of old age.

Re:Whales (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467124)

More sinister than humans!?

Is that possible?

Re:Whales (1)

pc12 (690367) | about 11 years ago | (#6467232)

Must be left over from the Infamous Exploding Whale [perp.com]

GNAA BENCMARKS GAY NIGGER SPEED (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466850)

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sobig and danger ratings (4, Insightful)

jeffy124 (453342) | about 11 years ago | (#6466873)

AV firms are probably giving that virus a low rating because it lacks damage to the actual computer, meaning it doesnt delete/corrupt data. I think AV companies need to add a "Societal Threat:" field to viruses. In which case sobig is "highly dangerous."

Re:sobig and danger ratings (3, Insightful)

ewhac (5844) | about 11 years ago | (#6467114)

It may not damage the computer itself, but it will seriously damage the reputation of the computer's owner, who will be falsely branded a spammer and get cut off the net. This should be of serious concern to computer owners and, as such, the virus should be rated as highly dangerous.

Schwab

IBList Automation (4, Insightful)

heli0 (659560) | about 11 years ago | (#6466875)

It seems that for each book they have: Title, Year, Author, Synopsis, Language, ISBN# and Genre. It seems there are already sites out there *cough*Amazon*cough* where a bot could scour this information for millions of titles.

Re:IBList Automation (1)

aeinome (672135) | about 11 years ago | (#6466979)

Same with IMDb, and look at it.

Re:IBList Automation (1)

heli0 (659560) | about 11 years ago | (#6467180)

I was implying that they could use a bot to gather information for millions of books instead of taking months to manually input 10,000.

VPC/Entourage (1)

mrpuffypants (444598) | about 11 years ago | (#6466883)

I could care less about VPC for the Mac being updated. What I'm really waiting for is the Entourage update that brings Exchange compatibality.

After that comes out I'd like to EOL OS 9 and Outlook 2001 at my university and move everybody over to OS X (finally). Plus, perhaps I can convince my boss-man to let me use a mac at work instead of a PC! (crosses fingers)

Bad Compilers for Apple G5 (4, Insightful)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | about 11 years ago | (#6466913)

Craig Hunter of NASA gives details about his much-quoted dual-G5 Power Mac benchmarks listed here.

When you read his latest comments he notes that several Fortran compilers gave faulty results, some depending on optimizations selected. THIS IS SCARY, to say the least. Even years ago I knew of C code that broke for no known reason when optimizations were selected.

What does it take to start a /. article about faulty compilers. This ought to be a big deal.

Re:Bad Compilers for Apple G5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6466954)

What does it take to start a /. article about faulty compilers.

Submitting a story to the editors on a good day, duh.

GNAA - CORRECTLY FORMATTED POST (-1, Flamebait)

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Cheap Virtual PC? (1)

tengwar (600847) | about 11 years ago | (#6466929)

I see Connectix don't sell Virtual PC without DOS or Windows. I've got a legal, non-OEM copy of Win2k. If I buy Virtual PC plus DOS, can I install Win2k over it?

Re:Cheap Virtual PC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467012)

of course you can

Re:Cheap Virtual PC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467026)

The dos version of Virtual PC comes with a non microsoft version of dos, A floppy disk image with PC-DOS if I remember right. Just enought to get you started.

The IBlist is kind of poor (3, Insightful)

chadamir (665725) | about 11 years ago | (#6466967)

I have a few beefs with the book list that I will air here as I do not see a means to on their site. - No button to submit corrections(I saw tons of mistakes) - Peoples real names were listed as pseduonyms rather than having their fake names as nom de plume and then a separate section for real names. - Books were listed by the year of their most recent printing rather than their original publishing. - The above could have easily been acknowledged but they dont even have a section for this - I saw things miscatogorized as novels that were just individual poems. It's a good endeavor but I don't see how it beats going to amazon and just typing in the authors name.

Time heals all wounds (1)

aeinome (672135) | about 11 years ago | (#6467006)

It'll probably get better, given time. It hasn't been open for that long, but if they get enough complaints they'll change something. It just takes time.

Time heals all wounds? (1)

thebagel (650109) | about 11 years ago | (#6467097)

No, no no. Time wounds all heels. They've shot themselves in their collective feet.

Am I the only one... (1)

fatboy (6851) | about 11 years ago | (#6466968)

that thinks Boot List Order Bug when you see blob?
(Anyone who knows Microware's OS-9 knows about the BLOB)

Yes you are (1)

Hecatonchires (231908) | about 11 years ago | (#6467184)

BLOB - Binary Large OBject
It is a database type

Well, I think so anyway...

why *would* they kill VPC? (1)

autopr0n (534291) | about 11 years ago | (#6466993)

Virtual PC is just one more reason for too A) buy a windows license (what M$ will probably bundle them, so you can't save money buy using Linux on your VPC) and B) port software to the mac, since people can just use VPC if they want to run it.

Re:why *would* they kill VPC? (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | about 11 years ago | (#6467061)

Virtual PC already had a Windows licence for most versions although there was a Linux version too.

ISBN.nu (4, Informative)

autopr0n (534291) | about 11 years ago | (#6467009)

What about isbn.nu [isbn.nu] ? That site's been around for years and does much the same thing as this booklist site.

Sperm whale or...? (0, Flamebait)

adagioforstrings (192285) | about 11 years ago | (#6467048)

12-meter mass of flesh...obscure 'giant octopus'

Are we sure they didn't mean 'whale sperm'?


Okay, yeah, yeah, that's disgusting. Sorry.

Re:Sperm whale or...? (1)

stratjakt (596332) | about 11 years ago | (#6467057)

Sounds like a japanese comic.

Those people are fucking sick, I dont care how fast their cablemodems are.

hmmmm (5, Funny)

Vilim (615798) | about 11 years ago | (#6467083)

Hmmm, I recal Douglas Adams saying something about a sperm whale in the middle of nowhere "As they approached the ridge of higher ground they became aware that it seemed to be circular - a crater about a hundred and fifty yards wide. Round the outside of the crater the sloping ground was spattered with black and red lumps. They stopped and looked at a piece. It was wet. It was rubbery. With horror they suddenly realized that it was fresh whalemeat. At the top of the crater's lip they met Zaphod. "Look," he said, pointing into the crater. In the centre lay the exploded carcass of a lonely sperm whale that hadn't lived long enough to be disappointed with its lot. The silence was only disturbed by the slight involuntary spasms of Trillian's throat. "I suppose there's no point in trying to bury it?" murmured Arthur, and then wished he hadn't. Now, the most logical explanation of this, is that in another dimension Earth was actually Magrathea (sp?) and this sperm whale was dropped out of the sky from the Heart of Gold. It then went through time and dimensions to wind up on earth. See, explains it perfectly :p

VPC (5, Insightful)

madsenj37 (612413) | about 11 years ago | (#6467104)

Microsoft will not kill off VPC for many reasons. 1. It can sell a licensed copy of Windows with every product. They are a software company, so this is good for them. 2. They can limit VPC to use only windows products. This pushes their software over the competitors. 3. They can discontinue products for the mac and make people use VPC for compatability until they are willing to switch over to their platform. Either way, its Microsoft software they are using. 4.They have a way for people/companies to run older Microsoft OSes inside the new ones ... such as running NT inside of Server 2003.

Re:VPC (1)

madpierre (690297) | about 11 years ago | (#6467230)

If apple had any balls theyd release OSX for x86 and bundle a copy with every PC sold.

hmmmmmm.

How about that.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467118)

Chilean scientists have determined that a 12-meter mass
of flesh discovered recently on a Pacific beach is actually CmdrTaco.

See [misterhouse.net]
What [studentplanet.com]
I [narod.ru]
Mean? [ispep.cx]

Re:How about that.... (1)

stratjakt (596332) | about 11 years ago | (#6467148)

Sobig, Blob, Blubber

Yeah, sounds like CmdrTaco

available for a nominal fee (3, Funny)

comnenos (689785) | about 11 years ago | (#6467159)

On the tivo site [tivo.com] , to get a copy of the source code by mail, it gives a mailing address (no phone) and says: "You will be charged a nominal fee for reproduction, shipping and handling costs, as allowed by the GPL." Anybody wonder what that nominal fee is? How would that work, you mail them asking for it, they mail you back, say what it costs, then you mail them? And who decides what a nominal fee is, even? Why not just say code available for $5 or whatever? I realize that the GPL may not say you have to tell people what the "nominal fee" is, but wouldn't that just make everyone's life easier?

And how would you enforce that part of the GPL in court? This haziness isn't the fault of Tivo, but rather of the FSF. Maybe as far as the company is concerned it takes several hours of labor at $50 an hour to get you that c.d. of code, so would have to pay $300?

Anyhoo, I think that everyone will just download the code off the website as it's there for free.

Re:available for a nominal fee (1)

stratjakt (596332) | about 11 years ago | (#6467226)

so what, if someone payed 300 dollars, they could make it available to everyone for free on the interweb.

if they can show the billable hours it costs, and its reasonable, then theres no problem.

The IBList (5, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | about 11 years ago | (#6467160)

The Internet Book List, which announced its creation earlier this year on /. has now reached 10,000+ entries and is still going strong.

The only problem is that 9,500 of the books are about unicorns or elves.

Mass of flesh you say? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6467164)

"Chilean scientists have determined that a 12-meter mass of flesh discovered
recently on a Pacific beach is actually CowboyNeal

See [cmdrtaco.net]
For [studentplanet.com]
Your [narod.ru]
Self! [ispep.cx]

TiVo following Linksys? (1)

proxima (165692) | about 11 years ago | (#6467213)

IIRC, TiVo has provided source for their GPL-based software from the beginning, or very near it. In any case, they did long before Linksys fessed up to all its usage.

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