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Sell Your Music on iTunes Music Store

pudge posted more than 10 years ago | from the gain-40-pounds-and-be-the-next-D dept.

Music 432

Photo_Designer writes "CD Baby is now accepting music to be sold via digital distibution through iTunes Music Store, Listen.com and others. Their cut is 9 percent. The artists get 91 percent of the sale and retain all the rights to their music. There is a $40 fee for each album submitted. It will be interesting to see how much indie music gets on and how it does. Imagine being a touring indie band and be able to tell people to go to iTunes and buy your songs; it seems this could be a huge boon to musicians wanting to circumvent/boycott/avoid/destroy the RIAA." Note that this is not an agreement to get on iTMS or any other service, only for CD Baby to be your distributor. iTMS can still reject your sorry attempt at fame.

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firstiddely postellidooo (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503289)

fp

Re:firstiddely postellidooo (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503302)

I would like to certify that you were indeed fp. Thanks for your effort, and congratulations.

Let me be the first to say (-1, Flamebait)

Trigun (685027) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503292)

Fuck you RIAA. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Your stranglehold on the industry is over!

IF I EVER MEET YOU I WILL KICK YOUR ASS!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503614)

Re:Let me be the first to say (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503634)

Fuck you RIAA. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

If you're looking for REALLY indie music, check out Section Z [sectionz.com] ("bedroom musicians", mixed bag - some are VERY good) or SpinWarp [spinwarp.com] (D&B music and production techniques)...

Re:Let me be the first to say (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503642)


I put my penis in your mom's mouth and make her smoke it.

She is a filthy diseased cunt, but she sucks a good dick.

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503295)

Can you sell first posts on iTMS, too?

YOU FUCKING FAIL IT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503342)

No!

Great for highschool bands (5, Interesting)

davisshaver (583015) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503314)

This seems like a godsend for many of the bands my friends are in. For 40 dollars they have the chance to be distributed, instead of spending much more on CD's. What are the chances apple will accept them though? It seems like this is what they wanted from that conference they held with the Indie labels.

Re:Great for highschool bands (4, Insightful)

darkov (261309) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503439)

What are the chances apple will accept them though?

This is a good point. There would be labour overhead and storage costs for each album. Even if they fully automate the submission process, can Apple swallow the cost of thousands of albums sitting on their hard disks?

What Apple might do is have a sales cut-off for artists, and maybe labels too. Sell a certain amount within a certain time or get kicked.

Re:Great for highschool bands (1)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503489)

There would be labour overhead and storage costs for each album.

A couple of Apple RAID Xserves [apple.com] should fix the storage issue.

Re:Great for highschool bands (4, Insightful)

jared_hanson (514797) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503511)

Apple definately needs a solution to keep the quality of the selection resonably high. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for variety of choice, and I fully support independant bands. However, I would hate to see iTMS turn into a place where there is a bunch of crap music, sort of like MP3.com. No one will buy music there if they have to wade through sludge to find a choice indie band.

frost posty motherfrosters (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503318)

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YOU FAIL IT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503356)

U R teh ghey. Suckit, beotch!

No, please don't. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503319)

I really don't wanna hear you guys sing.

pudge (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503324)

pudge is a fudgepacker..

Methinks... (4, Funny)

Spazntwich (208070) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503331)

that pudge is harboring some ill will from a previous failed attempt at a career in indie music.

Re:Methinks... (1)

gsfprez (27403) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503660)

no.

he's bitchy because he's getting harrased by 19 year old know nothings on a BBS (not /.) he seems to spend half his time on. ;-)

he's right, they're wrong, but they seem to be "winning" because they are politically correct, while being dumb as toast.

pudge ain't the most politically correct guy alive.. so its making him irritable.

as for the cat - he doesn't let the dogs in his office any more.. i couldn't tell you about the cat. iChat EXTREME him, and ask him to pan the camera around. ;-)

We'll see (1)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503336)

The trick will be how these guys work with the iTunes and Buy.com's of the world, and whether they actually offer anything of value. Compared to this setup [slashdot.org] , though, it does sound like an opportunity for artists to get a bigger slice of the pie...

Re:We'll see (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503391)

The trick will be how these guys work with the iTunes and Buy.com's of the world

Take a deep breath, re-read the title of the article, and then tell me why you are dumb.

In other news ... (5, Funny)

bigjocker (113512) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503337)

It has been anounced today that the long expected album "CowboyNeal in the Tub / Greatest Hits" will hit the digital shelves any time this week

IT'S A JOKE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503558)

Lighten up jackasses

Re:In other news ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503587)

He sings a nice cover of "Tiny Bubbles" with an amazing Castanet solo. One the second chorus, he uses his teeth instead of the castanets (I think that it's a semi-autobiographical reference to his early discovery of auto-generated-tiny bubbles).

$40 an album seems cheap (5, Interesting)

eoyount (689574) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503340)

You'd only need to do $44 in sales to recoup your investment. Of course that assumes that you really get to keep 91% of revenue. What about Apple's cut, if you get on iTunes? Does that come out of their 9%?

Re:$40 an album seems cheap (1)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503682)

I assume the 91% is of the "distributer" cut of the iTunes pie (which, if memory serves, is around 30c)

Just Checking (0, Insightful)

grennis (344262) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503343)

Okay, I just want to make sure my opinions are "slashdot-correct" before I go around expressing them.

We hate buymusic.com, because it uses evil DRM, is that right? I want to make sure. Cause it seems like itunes.com uses DRM also. I guess it's okay though because that is an Apple thing. I would never accuse Slashdot people of being hypocrites, of course... I just want to make sure my opinions are "slashdot-correct". There is no way slashdot people are hypocrites.

Re:Just Checking (4, Insightful)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503437)

We hate buymusic.com because its DRM is too oppressive, not to mention it's based on sub-par Microsoft technology that's already been cracked.

We like the iTunes Music Store because it uses reasonable DRM and a good format.

See the difference?

Re:Just Checking (4, Insightful)

jared_hanson (514797) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503440)

Get ready to be modded flamebait. Anyway, I just wanted to clarify your position. The DRM in buymusic.com is much, much more restrictive than that found in iTMS. Given the state of the industry, it is a pipe dream to even think that any store will get to license media from the big record labels without at least some DRM. Hence, we like Apple for getting the job done with the least invasive DRM possible. It is a lesser of two evils situation.

Re:Just Checking (1)

irving47 (73147) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503454)

If you want to call it DRM, you're free to do so. I am NOT a big music listener, so I don't have the same perspective, but the restrictions on ITMS seem so light that they're only there at all to keep RIAA-types from complaining.

Re:Just Checking (4, Informative)

jeeves99 (187755) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503455)

True, anything with the MS name on it will get ridiculed severely on slashdot. Thats just the culture here. Also true, slashdot harbors a lot of goodwill towards apple.

That being said, there are fundamental differences between the apple and buymusic.com approaches to treating their customers. Apple has uniform licensing which guarantees unlimited burns, simultaneous access to the music on 3 computers (with the option to change the computers as often as you wish), and unlimited transfers to an iPod. (apple needs to add support for more players)

BuyMusic.com offers none of these things. Songs are tied to ONE computer, without the ability to change that. Depending upon the particular song, burns and transfers to a (select) number of mp3 players is limited to a discrete number.

Re:Just Checking (5, Interesting)

feldsteins (313201) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503670)

I think your problem is that you don't understand the difference between "draconian, treat-your-customers-like-criminals" DRM and fairly sensible, "hey-we-gotta-stay-in-business" DRM. Apple uses the latter. Pressplay, the former. From what I've seen of buymusic.com, they fall in the middle. If you don't understand the differences between the services, go read up on them.

And, by the way, you can "hate DRM" all you want, but someone had to toss a bone to the RIAA for some music to get sold, man. If the Apple iTMS is innovative at all (and it is) then it is innovative solely because of the fairly decent customer rights that accompany the downloads. If you're holding out for the totally unrestricted, uncompressed downloads for $0.04 per song, like some folks here seem to be doing, I think you'll be hearing a lot of silence. Or using illegal services. The copyright holders for popular music (the big 5 labels, the RIAA, etc.) will never, never, go with a service who's restrictions on illegal redistribution amount to nothing more than "the honor system."

Finally, I'm getting tired of the very vocal minority here at slashdot who insist, thread after thread, that Apple gets some sort of special privelaged treatment in these forums. Thier reputation here has risen above the likes of Microsoft in recent years, it's true, but they still take quite a few lumps around here. Some of them are even deserved! So if you say Apple is the slashdot darling, then I say "bullshit." It's rare enough that they get credited for what they do get right.

What abount major artists (4, Interesting)

luzrek (570886) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503346)

Forget about Joe (or Jill) Artist, what about middle grade artists that have been perpetually screwed by their RIAA contracts.

Re:What abount major artists (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503421)

You make a deal with the devil you get screwed. It's that simple.

Re:What abount major artists (2, Insightful)

DrWhizBang (5333) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503442)

This will allow new artists to get some payback without having to sign a contract in the first place. The one deadlock that the RIAA has is on distribution, and without that many artists would never have to sign with a label at all.

As for artists that have already signed, well, they're screwed.

I'm a Republican! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503347)

Oh, I'm a Republican
I got a small schling
I like to bomb niggahs
and make a lot o' bling

I got a bunch o' friends
in high up places
They helps me get dem
government graces.

You think I'm smart
I just know who's who
I couldn't run a fruit stand
without the red white & blue

I'll drop some crap
about Jesus the Christ
You'll buy it all
and vote for me twice

'Fact, Jesus is comin'!
Real soon, now!
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That ol' sacred cow

Don't need no history
Don't need no schoolin'
I got my ideology
To keep me a shootin'

Liberals! Faggots!
Commies and queers!
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Full o' pussy tears

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But I calls it "fact"
Even though I don't read
'Cept for Chick tracts

Facts? No! Don't need em here!
We're conservatives! We work on FEAR!
Don't like what we say?
Well FUCK YOU, bud!
We'll shove it down yer throat
and tell ya it's good!

Re:I'm a Republican! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503633)

Apparently you haven't heard the information from the california democrat meeting where they wanted to delay the recovery of the economy to put pressure on repubs. Nice load of lies in that post... We're racists? You're the one making the black community dependant upon government. Racists. Gotta keep darkie under your thumb.

Looks like a good deal (4, Insightful)

xyrw (609810) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503361)

I have to say, it looks like CD Baby is being very fair to the artists with this deal. The artists can even sell their music via other means, just not to the same store, and they can end the contract with 30 days' notice.

Also, this could bring a fair amount of indie music to the iTMS. Personally, I'm all for it. Hopefully, CD Baby can get the word out effectively.

Only a matter of time... (0, Offtopic)

swordboy (472941) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503368)

I can see the day when companies like McDonald's or Taco Bell start their own music labels. Walk in and get the latest and greatest boy band hit with a value meal prior to the "official release". Perhaps this is why McDonald's is pioneering wireless at their restaraunts?

Great idea! (3, Insightful)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503371)

It's gonna take a BIG organization outside the RIAA to come up with a system to beat them. iTunes is a great idea, and this new way of selling music is a good idea, though I think $40 is a bit steep. I think they should have an option. You either pay $40 to get the album on there OR they take a higher percentage of the revenue. (Say 15% instead of 9%.)

Regardless, the RIAA have done themselves no favours with their continued insanity, and this iTunes venture comes on the heels of Michael Jackson (he may be a nutter, but he's one of the top grossing artists of all time) saying that going to jail for downloading MP3's is nuts and that the RIAA needs to find a new solution rather than making criminals out of people.

So, anyone care to start an "RIAA Dead Pool". I reckon they'll be dead and gone by 2007.

Re:Great idea! (5, Insightful)

Trigun (685027) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503436)

$40 bucks is nothing when compared to getting a CD mastered. Let alone distribution costs. If the band can't fork over $40 bucks, then their music probably isn't worth the $0.99 download.

Re:Great idea! (1)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503515)

True, but I still think there should be an option. Most muscians I've known have no money:) So having an option to get their music up without having to pony up the $40 would be a nice thing. I fail to see how not having $40 would equate to them not being worth paying for. Money != Talent.

Re:Great idea! (1)

Cecil (37810) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503648)

If you can't manage to scrape together $40 to invest in your future, or get someone else to do it for you, you aren't talented, sorry. $40 is peanuts. Have one of the band members go get a McJob for a couple days. Jeez.

Re:Great idea! (1)

Trigun (685027) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503706)

Most of the musicians, or artists of most sorts, which I know are broke as well.

Yet they have the best pot. Strange how that works.

Re:Great idea! (1)

cve (181337) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503585)

Most of the bands submitting material will have little chance for comercial success. I'm sure CDBaby is just banking on the $40 up front. 15% of 0 is still o.

Re:Great idea! (1)

HiThere (15173) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503714)

This is no problem....well, not much of one.

The question is: Do they have a good indexing system? Can you find what you are looking for? If they do, then those who are decent can pick up a following. If not, then not.

I do wonder just how long they'll store the music on-line for $40. What's really wanted is an archive, so that music with an value doesn't get lost. And with any value is quite a difficult parameter to measure. Fashions change, so what's not worth anything today may be a true masterpiece tomorrow. (Example: Shakespear was for a century or so considered too low brow to be worth consideration. Then only the histories were worthwhile plays. Now "MidSummer Night's Dream" is considered one of his better plays. And he's considered a master of the art.)

Re:Great idea! (3, Interesting)

JustAnotherReader (470464) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503594)

$40 is Steep? You must be joking. For less than the price of set of guitar strings and a tuner you can distribute your music. That's amazing.

I love the idea of indie bands telling their audience We have CD's for sale here tonight or you can just go to CDBaby and buy them there". It's an easy to remember web site that the customers can still remember after a few beers.

Great idea. I hope CDBaby makes millions (which means the bands they represent will make tens of millions. That's kind of a nice change isn't it?)

Go forth, but cautiously... (4, Insightful)

jeeves99 (187755) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503372)

I've never heard of CDBaby. Their website looks very shoddy, as if they used a very basic WYSIWYG editor. I would also like to know how picky apple is about taking music from the labels. Do they take anything the labels feed them or are they selective in their choices? If they'll take anything, then CDBaby looks like a fantastic way to get wide-spread distribution. If not, then you've just wasted $40 on a pipedream.

Re:Go forth, but cautiously... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503459)

Never judge a book by it's cover. You miss out on good content that way.

Re:Go forth, but cautiously... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503468)

From the horse's mouth:

* Our servers are running 100% OpenBSD - the world's most secure operating system. Powered by Apache, PHP, and MySQL.
* No Microsoft products were used in the creation of this website.
* We try to stay HTML 4.0 compliant. No special web browser needed. (I recommend the Opera and Mozilla web browsers for their speed and standards.)
* CD Baby website (front end and back end) made by me - Derek Sivers. It's my favorite hobby.

http://www.cdbaby.com/about

Re:Go forth, but cautiously... (5, Funny)

seasleepy (651293) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503610)

I've never bought from them personally, but they sound like a bunch of people that really love music...very small record-shop-ish. (See the bonus free CD [cdbaby.com] for returning customers.)
A friend of mine who got something from them a while ago also thought their e-mail confirmation was absolutely hilarious:

"Your CDs have been gently taken from our CD Baby shelves with sterilized contamination-free gloves and placed onto a satin pillow.

A team of 50 employees inspected your CDs and polished them to make sure they were in the best possible condition before mailing.

Our packing specialist from Japan lit a candle and a hush fell over the crowd as he put your CDs into the finest gold-lined box that money can buy.

We all had a wonderful celebration afterwards and the whole party marched down the street to the post office where the entire town of Portland waved 'Bon Voyage!' to your package, on its way to you, in our private CD Baby jet on this day, Thursday, April 17th.

I hope you had a wonderful time shopping at CD Baby. We sure did. Your picture is on our wall as "Customer of the Year". We're all exhausted but can't wait for you to come back to CDBABY.COM"

Re:Go forth, but cautiously... (2, Interesting)

TerryAtWork (598364) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503625)

I liked their web site very much. It reminds me of Google.com, another no frills site some people around here may have heard of.

I also very much like lawyer-free way the deal is explained. Even *I* understood it and I'm dumb at that sort of thing.

Also their terribly good taste in OS's didn't hurt either.....

Re:Go forth, but cautiously... (2, Informative)

ambisinistral (594774) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503657)

I just had a vey bad experience with CD Baby. I had bought a CD from them that was backordered. About nine months later it dawned on me I never got it. I contacted them via email about it and they did not respond. I had to contact the Artist (Paula Battaglia -- good CD when I got it) who contacted them before to get the issue resolved.

Heh, they'll send you cutsey email telling you you're their number on customer though. Well, they do take your money fast. I would prefer getting customer support myself.

And the music industry wonders why they're in trouble...

Why deal with CDBaby ? (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503393)


Surely the band could deal with Apple themselves ?

i thought that was what the internet was about, cutting out the middleman and dealing with the source.

when cdbaby want 9% (which is essentially the price of talking to Apple and a database entry) you can see why the industry is full of no good greedy executives with everyone clammering for a piece of the cash bonanza.

nothing changes egh

Apple? (0, Offtopic)

absurdhero (614828) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503402)

Why is this article in the apple category? It does mention the iTMS along with other services, but it could just as easily fit under a music category or RIAA category. I have noticed this same odd categorization of articles with only slight relations to apple in the past few days. Slashdot is not macslash, so it doesn't have any significant apple slant, right? I don't have any strong opinions on the matter, the Apple category is as good as any other, I just find it an interesting Slashdot quirk; something worth pointing out.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. (5, Interesting)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503407)

This is it. The missing bridge.

Now you can sell your own electronically encoded tunes on a gigantic global network that has a massive ad campaign behind it, for $40.

Good for CD Baby. They negotiated the deal with Apple and seem to be happy to provide the connection. The terms are more than reasonable. Hell, for $40, I'd make an album just to *see* if I had any musical talent that anyone else appreciated. (er, I don't.)

Now, what we need is some sort of powerful mechanism for allowing people to be introduced to music they'd like, but don't know the name of. I've often thought a moderation-style system similar to what Slashdot has would be useful. Of course, its ony a tiny hop from there to find all those wonderful demographics marketers crave.. you know.. the Volkswagen-Coke-Nintendo-Apple-Sony style connections...

Re:Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. (5, Interesting)

medeii (472309) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503679)

I'd love to mod this up, but I'll reply instead.

CD Baby has that sort of mechanism, or at least something like it. Searching around the iTunes store didn't really help me much, because a lot of the music I listen to (Delerium, Balligomingo, Ceredwen, and assorted video game music) either isn't available, or really doesn't fall into any particular category. I went to read the article, then went to CD Baby and started browsing CDs. Their searching feature for something that "sounds like" a different artist caught my eye, and now I'm happily looking at different trance/tribal artists that, though certainly not mimicking Delerium, have a similar feel. I can't get that by going to a store, and this is the first time I've ever seen anyone give that sort of feature prominence.

Anyone know of other online stores that feature this? CD Baby's got a good start, but I'm really not keen on the million albums that require RealPlayer for me to listen to them.

novellty press (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503409)

Reminds me of those novellty press site like xlibris . For "only" a hundered dollars they would print your buck and get an ISBN number for you , of course no one would ever take books from them . The success of this service depends on how much influence they have with itunes and other music distribution channels , right now it just sounds like another cool way to get for bucks from morons .
By the way I'm launching a newservice , you send me money and I'll try and make you famous if other people think your good enough and if you become famous I want a 9% cut . I wont do much with the $40 except take your demo tape and rip it in mp3 and put them on kazaa ; but hey its good exposure?

Bunch of morons.
Note in a bad sense , morons are easy to get money from.

Good Start (1)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503414)

This is a good start I guess. Ultimately its still like having a label though. The artists should be able to go straight to Apple and take out yet another comapany that wants to play middleman.

The big plus side about this though is that it really starts to bring Darwin to the music scene. If a song sucks, less people will buy it if there's better stuff out there. Obviously there are still kinks in this system, but its a HELLUVA lot better than before where if you weren't with a label, NOBODY would hear/buy your music. This is definitely progress although it still kinda gives me a feeling of 'one step forward, two steps back' with CDnow being the middleman instead of the labels.

Re:Good Start (1)

dialectro (673537) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503636)

Do you have the contract signed with Apple to encode your songs with their DRM? I would be happy to pay a measly $40 and another measly 9% to have someone handle the business side of things with Apple (and others.)

Regardless though, unless the search and "You would also like" features are built better, Joe Schmoe is never gonna make much money on iTMS or anywhere else without distro into independent record stores and videos on MTV2...

CD Baby Cares (5, Funny)

BeetMonster (635139) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503417)

Here's the proof, came with my invoice:

Your CD has been gently taken from our CD Baby shelves with sterilized contamination-free gloves and placed onto a satin pillow.

A team of 50 employees inspected your CD and polished it to make sure it was in the best possible condition before mailing.

Our packing specialist from Japan lit a candle and a hush fell over the crowd as he put your CD into the finest gold-lined box that money can buy.

We all had a wonderful celebration afterwards and the whole party marched down the street to the post office where the entire town of Portland waved 'Bon Voyage!' to your package, on its way to you, in our private CD Baby jet on this day, Tuesday, July 15th. I hope you had a wonderful time shopping at CD Baby. We sure did. Your picture is on our wall as 'Customer of the Year'. We're all exhausted but can't wait for you to come back to CDBABY.COM!!


All that, and shipping was only $2.25!

Re:CD Baby Cares (4, Funny)

Xerithane (13482) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503647)

I'm from Portland. It's true. We have a ceremony every day at 3:36PM. It gets a bit crowded, but they also provide free dinners for us all. Afterwards, if you are over 21, they buy you a beer.

All the companies know this, and revere this sacred time and let all of us get off work for it. Don't worry, it's all paid time off. Sometimes they even will allow us to use the company limo to travel down there, complete with caviar.

PUDGE = HOMO (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503424)

That Rules (1)

Erick the Red (684990) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503430)

The main reason the RIAA still sells music, considering the music's quality, is that most people don't know there's someting better out there (most radio stations doesn't help). If some decent tracks are available on iTunes, and therefor get put beside popular music that's being searched by the "uneducated masses", people will be subjected to something that's good.

In your dreams... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503447)

Imagine being a touring indie band and be able to tell people to go to iTunes and buy your songs; it seems this could be a huge boon to musicians wanting to circumvent/boycott/avoid/destroy the RIAA.

Imagine being a touring indie band and telling 95% of your audience that your music is on the iTunes store but they cannot listen to it because they don't have a Mac! That will really show the RIAA!

Outstanding!! (1)

NetNinja (469346) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503453)

I hope all the music bands out there succeed!
Here's to all the luck in the world for all the Indies out there.

Re:Outstanding!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503702)

I hope the vast majority of them fail miserably & get stomach cancer.

The lowest form of life to me is an untalented musician.

Apply Sturgeon's Law (90% of anything is crap). The blanket statement "I hope all indies succeed" is silly.

cdbaby is good for the artist (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503469)

I've ordered a number of CDs from CDbaby recently in all cases after being in touch with the artist themselves - to find out where I could get their music from.

These guys are good, they have a range of shipping options that make it possible to order internationally with no hassle - they'll ship cds with no cases so that it can go via post as opposed to package.

The artists seem reasonably happy with their cut, in fact one told me that it was the first time he was able to pay his rent with CD sales.

This may sound like an advert, but they really were a pleasant suprise. As i like music, that's mainly non-stream especially with the slashdot crowd (modern jazz & real fusion), it was great to find an outlet which stocked these.

-- ac

Read their stuff first (2, Interesting)

chia_monkey (593501) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503472)

At first I was going to scream "holy shitballs! That rocks!" But then I decided to read a bit more on it.

They say you just lend us the right to be your digital distributor: to get your music to legitimate music services like Apple iTunes, Listen.com, and more

So...does anyone have any idea how many CDs CD Baby has actually put up on iTunes? They say they will be your digital distributor...but just how successful are they in that role?

This is a good start : Choices (2)

felonious (636719) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503473)

It's nice to see this service starting to expand into indy music. I don't use the service but I support it because it's gives us all another choice. I think if they do a windows version then we'll really start to see an impact. You really can't lose with low prices and ease of use. Even if a person is anti-mac they can't deny that this service will be what the Ipod was to the old school mp3 players. I would also add that I am not a mac user but I can recognize quality no matter where it comes from.

Proper Job... Finally... (4, Interesting)

Capt_Troy (60831) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503481)

I've been saying for some time that the record industry NEEDS to basically innovate or die. Use technology to boost their sales rather than fighting in a losing battle. They never heeded the words of the great Capt_Troy...

Nice to see someone doing this. Too bad for those involved with the RIAA that it's not one of them. I give iTunes a year in which it will grow and prosper. Then, the recording industry will finally give up and begin their own knockoffs (which will be nowhere near as good). One year...

Troy

Whats to stop people (-1, Flamebait)

LethalSoul07 (688912) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503560)

What is to stop people from just simply downloading music free from kazaa, winmx, limewire, sharebare (the list goes on and on) and when one of these apps goes down 3 or 4 more replace it. It is like that micky mouse and the wizard thing from fantasia. I dont see why I, or anyone, would pay even 1 or 2 bucks for a song when I can get thousands for free. Explain this to me.

Distribution v/s marketing (1)

sgups (449689) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503500)

So the artists have a somewhat fair distribution channel. They yet need to market themselves to make for people to download them and make a buck. And how would they do that? Lets also assume they have cheap means of recording their music - some software perhaps.

Industry Response (5, Funny)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503527)

BuyMusic.com, a recently-launched competitor to Apple iTunes Music Store, announced today that they would begin distributing independent artists' work, much like CDBaby's newly unveiled distribution plan. Through BuyMusic.com, independent artists would see up to 99.9% profit per sale(1), with one-time setup costs as low as $30(2). Artists would receive their checks in as little as one week(3) after BuyMusic.com receives payment for the sale. Artists wishing to leave the service may be able to do so as quickly as within twenty days.(4)

(1) Typical profit per sale will range between -5% and 3% depending on marketing terms and market conditions
(2) Setup costs of $30 available to Ultra Platinum Plus artists only. Typical setup costs between $80-200 per song.
(3) Payment processing is facilitated by a third party contractor; allow 5-8 months lead time for most transactions.
(4) Expedited 20-day cancellation requires rapid cancellation charge of $10,000. Expedited cancellation not available for top-selling titles. Standard requests for contract cancellation will be considered on a per-request basis.

Looks like these guys want to be the cafepress (1)

TerryAtWork (598364) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503535)

of audio.

Let's hope they do a better job of artistic managment then CP did.....

Who has done this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503537)

Anyone on these music services that started at CDBaby? It would be helpful to know the success rate.

Of course, it's all up to the end service.

"Bill, we got a new artist here - he's doing the Rednex thing, ya know, 'Rave Country'..."

"Yah. Circular file that one. Any chicks with big jugs? They always sell."

Not what it seems?... (5, Informative)

treegnome (324068) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503544)

I'm a musician, and I've been waiting for something like this to come out. I just called CD Baby and they said that I couldn't JUST spend the $40 and sell digitally, I still had to have a CD printed up and ready to sell physically on their website... which I don't have $3,000 for...

I'm still waiting for a totally digital distributor, since I think that will be the next big thing..

Re:Not what it seems?... (1)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503684)

Uh, where do you think the source for the digital files comes from? What were you going to send them, mp3s? You must have the source files right? Burn them on a CD, have a (knowlegeable) pal do the artwork, and send it in. They will let you.

If 10,000 people order a CD, I'm sure you can find someone who wants a nice return on their money and front the bill for making them. Hell, I'll lend it to you (in exchange for a small fee, of course. ;)

RIAA/APPLE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503555)

It seems to me that the silence on RIAA's part about Apple's itunes speaks volumes. In a way I see it as Apple (and CD-Baby) calling the RIAA's bluff. They (RIAA) say that they're fighting for musicians to get paid properly for their music, but what they're really doing is fighting for executives and producers to get paid--people who long ago left the business of crafting artists to instead make their money simply distributing music. Now that much more efficient methods of distibuting music have formed, they are and should be left out in the cold.

By the way, look for the RIAA to find some angle to slam Apple in the near future.

Jay
proudliberals.com

Apple + Gap + akamai = ? (1)

itomato (91092) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503579)

Akamai's delivery system

Apple's techno-savvy and style

The Gap peoples' uncanny ability to corral or at least profitize from the natural tendencies of teenagers

A big slap in the face to the traditional recording industry

Could it equal a shake-up severe enough to shift the paradigm?

indie bands need protection too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6503583)

I hear alot of RIAA bashing time to time on /. but i wonder how many of you ever tried to think about how a band might benefit from the RIAA.

before you guys go bashing me just hear me out.

For a new band that wants to stay independant, they need cheap way to distribute their music, but what happens when their music ends up on a P2P network and ends up wildly successfull, ibso facto, no one pays for the music because its on Kazaa. how is the smalltime indie band going to get the resources needed to go after the individuals stealing the music? just a thought, i hate the RIAA as much as the rest of you, they are a monopoly that microsoft only dreams of having. ( to my knowledge microsoft has not bought many laws lately).

$.02

Fantastic! (4, Interesting)

DrWhizBang (5333) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503596)

I find it very odd that a computer company (Apple) could be the driver being such a fundamental civil rights change. (aside: If artists can start to be compensated for their work, what's to stop us IT workers and software developers?)

The music industry is one area where the big corporation have been allowed to force people into contract that would violate labour laws if they were proposed in other sectors. We have been waiting with baited breath for technology to break down the barriers that have stopped artists from being freed, yet the technology companies themselves hove mostly worked with the RIAA to perpetuate this arrangement.

Bravo, Apple. I do understand that you are only interested in dollars like every other corporation, but you have shown that you do value creativeity and freedom as well, just like you keep telling us!

What I want to see... (2, Insightful)

Squidgee (565373) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503602)

What I want to see is an artist they got on the iTMS before I go jumping for joy at this.

IF they get someone on there, then I can jump for joy; until then, it could very well be bogus. Only time will tell...

Not too shabby (4, Informative)

Jon Abbott (723) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503607)

Given the $40 entry fee, the 91:9 profit ratio with CDBaby, the 40:60 profit ratio with Apple, and assuming that people only download singles for $0.99 each, it would only take 111 downloads of your band's songs to break-even. Not bad!!

THIS SITE IS BOGUS!!! (0, Troll)

SeattleGameboy (641456) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503626)

Don't be fooled! This site at best is some naive attempt at trying to make some money off honest artists, or this is out-and-out con. RIAA does not share their stage with others very nicely. It is highly UNLIKELY that ITunes will be allowed to carry titles that are not members of RIAA. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING on CDBaby's site that guarantee you that you WILL be on ITune for $40. This means that they are basically charging you $40 for NOTHING!!! Unless they have a strong track record, which they don't, or have a public support from places like ITune, which they don't, this is nothing more than some piped dream by some enterprising guy. I cannot believe Slashdot would fall for a scam like this...

Artists: did you catch that: 9%? (4, Informative)

MagicMerlin (576324) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503656)

Most record deals with emerging artists ususally take around 70-90% of the profits from album sales (after artificially inflated production costs). TLC, one of the biggest acts of the early 90's sold over 10 million copies of their album 'waterfalls' and walked away with about 170k$ each (do the math).

Basically, artists could sell about 1/10th (or less) of the records online as they normally would through normal channels and make more money!

go to itunes and buy our music! (-1, Troll)

poptones (653660) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503683)

All five of you out there with macs!

Viva La revolucion!

I still do not grasp this fascination with "itunes." So what if it sold a lot of music to the fanboys stupid enough to pay all that money for a mac? I know a few people with macs and every single one of them would buy farts in a jar from uncle steve if only given the chance.

This is cool for cdbaby, although it would be much cooler to see them doing the online distribution themselves in a format (ie MP3 or OGG) that the truly free world embraces. Giving money to Listen.com or any of the "established" providers [internetnews.com] still means supporting the dino-co's that own them - and, thus, the RIAA - and there is no way in hell I (and many others) will ever do that... never again.

91% of what? (1)

dkarney (243740) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503688)

Is this 91% of the supposed 52% that goes to the label and artist? (40% for label and 12% for artist) Or just the 91% of the 12% cut? This is a difference of either 47 cents or 11 cents per song.

Why is this article on apple.slashdot.org? (1)

Cy Guy (56083) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503693)

CDBaby works with all the major online music services (or claims to) not just iTunes, so shouldn't this run either on the main page or not at all?

Retaliation from RIAA? (1)

gumpish (682245) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503705)

Seems that if this is really happening that the RIAA and the major labels would pull the music from the artists they "represent" to punish the store...

91% of what? (1)

Dan Crash (22904) | more than 10 years ago | (#6503710)

This seems like great news, but artists won't get 91% of the 99 cents each track. They'll get 91% of whatever iTunes agrees to pay them per track, and we don't know what that is yet.

If Apple decides to give artists a quarter for every song sold (which is more than the 7 cents per track RIAA artists are currently receiving), you'll get 22 cents a track. Many artists might be better off selling their music for 50 cents a song using micropayments and encouraging fans to buy directly from them. More music gets sold to fans, and the artists receive more profit.

But there's definitely an advantage to being listed in iTunes or other major music services, and there's nothing that says you can't do both. It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out.
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