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No Doom 3 This Year?

simoniker posted more than 11 years ago | from the done-when-it's-finished dept.

First Person Shooters (Games) 434

Ant writes "According to an article at Blue's News: 'Though id Software basically invented the idea of using "when it's done" as a release date, and thus did not specify a release date when DOOM 3 was announced, many have been assuming that the game would be available for this year's holiday season. Now a report on HomeLAN Fed cites Activision's 2003 release calendar and quarterly financial conference call... [saying that] Activision admits that this matter is entirely in id's hands, but that they are not expecting the game this year, and have it "penciled" on their calendars for fiscal Q4 (Jan-March) 2004.' Additionally, Quake IV is now due in Fiscal 2005 (which begins April 2004)."

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Doom Forever? (5, Funny)

connsmythe96 (576445) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506474)

Or maybe Doom Whenever?

Re:Doom Forever? (4, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506876)

Why not just "Doomed"?

DOOMKATANA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506914)

can you say doomkatana?
seriously, aside from that one small alpha release last year, how do we really know how well this will be? And by this time, the market may already start to be filled with similar games.

Press Release: New Name for Doom (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506478)

Obligatory: Doom 3 Forever.

Poo (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506482)

on u

No, no (1)

The Bungi (221687) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506484)

Though id Software basically invented the idea of using "when it's done" as a release date

That's from the folks that bring us the Duke Nukem games. C'mon. Let's give credit where credit's due.

Prior Art (1)

IncohereD (513627) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506526)

3D Realms ripped it off from id, like many of their ideas.

Although, they DID raise the art of delay to a whole new level.

Re:No, no (4, Funny)

JesseL (107722) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506543)

I think id did start the "when it's done" trend. 3D Realms has just interpreted that as "just in time for the LAN party at the end of the universe".

Re:No, no (3, Funny)

TheKey (465831) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506748)

I'd hit it.

Re:No, no (4, Informative)

stonecypher (118140) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506589)

That's from the folks that bring us the Duke Nukem games. C'mon. Let's give credit where credit's due.

It's straight out of Carmack's .plan from the developmental Doom 2 era. Nice try, though.

a new game (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506485)

eat a dick

Piss, frosty. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506493)

ogranization GNAA is a load of teenagers in basements. Most of the ringleaders are using roadrunner and they use eggdrop bots to slowly attack other channels. Please stop GNAA before they kill EFNET.

...deja vu? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506494)

Hmmm... Duke Nukem Forever?

Re:...deja vu? (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506763)

Duke Nukem (in development) Forever

I can wait for a decent game (5, Insightful)

CoyoteGuy (524946) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506497)

As long as I don't have to buy a Pentium 6 with 2GB ram and a Geforce 10 running windows 2005 with Directx 15.

Re:I can wait for a decent game (5, Funny)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506818)

By the time this thing comes out, that'll be the definition of a $200 Wal-mart PC.

Re:I can wait for a decent game (1, Insightful)

edwdig (47888) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506884)

Remember when Doom 3 was supposed to be playable on a TNT 2 without having to turn it down to lowest quality? GeForce 3 was supposed to be able to handle it on max quality too.

Doom slogans.. (5, Funny)

TWX (665546) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506498)

"DOOM!"

"DOOM2: Hell on Earth"

"No DOOM 3? What the Hell?"

Thats a relief! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506501)

...No wonder I couldn't find it on Kazaa!

Maybe Now... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506502)

...I will be able to afford the hardware needed to play it at 1600x1200 when it is released.

Marked funny, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506560)

How many people bought ridiculouisly over priced hardware to support Doom 3 and now it own't be out til hte hardware is at a commodity price?

Could it have been a sleazy corporate money-grubbing plan to milk every cent out of us in a declining economy?

Re:Maybe Now... (4, Funny)

JesseL (107722) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506594)

Yeah, but by the time it's released it will only look good running at least 64,000^3 in your 3d simulation tank.

Qusay and Uday, Muslims, dead at 37 and 42 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506504)

I just heard some sad news on talk radio - brothers in terror Qusay and Uday was found dead in some Iraqi slum house this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular terror culture. Truly an Iraqi icon.

MOD PARENT UP (-1)

Nix0n (649693) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506840)

Come on mods, this is fucking hilarious.

nooooooo (0)

seeksoft (579626) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506506)

my worst nightmare!!!

screw doom 3. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506507)

half life 2 is where its at.

woot (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506508)

That leaves a chance we'll get play Duke Nukem first!

Re:woot (1)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506747)

Are you a gambling man ?, if so I'll take that bet.

Release Date? (3, Insightful)

dagarath (33684) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506510)

What's the purpose in trying to predict the release date of a game that doesn't have a release date? Activision doesn't know exactly when the game will be released, and if ID releases it before this prediction then I'll bet Activision will make time to publish it.

There will be no meaningful comments to this article, unless John Carmack or one of the other ID guys decides to respond.

Re:Release Date? (5, Insightful)

Mike Hawk (687615) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506731)

They have to predict a release date. This is a major product for a publicly traded company. The stockholders are entitled to know what to expect for the near future. It is responsible to give the quarter a product is expected to ship as well as when a product's shipping slips to another quarter. Predicting an exact date can make one look foolish, but that was never the case with this title.

C'mon dagarath, I know you could have thought of that if you tried.

Michelangelo (4, Interesting)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506512)

I thought it was Michelangelo, when painting the Sistine Chapel's celing, that he said "When it is finished!". I'd post the IMDB link to the particular movie emphasizing that, but I'm not sure which movie it was. I'll let someone else reap the karma rewards.

Re:Michelangelo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506772)

The Agony and the Ecstasy [imdb.com] .

Charlton Heston...
Michaelangelo...
and the Pope...
FIGHT CRIME THIS SEASON ON USA!

they shouldnt have even said it was in the works (1)

felesii (673184) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506517)

the longer the period of time between when its announced and when its released, the more pissed off people get, and are therefor less likely to buy it no matter how good it is. blizzard seemed to have figured this out after diablo 2 (although it did sell pretty well anyway), which is why they didnt officially annonce warcraft 3 until a few months before it was released.

Re:they shouldnt have even said it was in the work (1)

Mike Hawk (687615) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506767)

How self-important! They don't announce the release date in the gaming press until it is close. This was an announcement to stockholders and analysts. You sought out what is not intended for you.

That sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506521)

Too bad, Doom3 looks really cool.

Calendars are for Blizzard.... (1, Offtopic)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506535)

With all the delays and all with Doom III, I'm surprised that Doom IV would be placed on the slate so soon afterward.

Is Id planning on using the same engine? Kinda how Doom II seemed more like an expansion on Doom I..

Seems Kernelesque... Maybe we can assume that the Odd versions on Doom will be the development line, and the even versions are the stable releases.

Re:Calendars are for Blizzard.... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506606)

It is not Doom IV, if you read the post it says Quake IV. Which is not even being made by id, it is being made by Raven using the Doom III engine. Two entirely differnt games, same engine.

Re:Calendars are for Blizzard.... (0)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506620)

Uh, that's Quake IV on the slate - not Doom IV.

Doom 3 is going to come out, when it's done and then Quake IV is going to come out later. I don't know about what engine it's going to use.

Re:Calendars are for Blizzard.... (0)

chrisbord (602239) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506659)

Well, they're sure as hell not developing a new engine in a couple of months. Of course it's the same engine, maybe with a few tweaks.

Re:Calendars are for Blizzard.... (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506678)

Quake IV, dude...

Re:Calendars are for Blizzard.... (0)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506841)

No Quake IV is on the slate soon afterwards, I'm sure they won't release a DOOM IV, atleast not for a long long time.

FYI: For the future DOOM will be the brand name for single player games with small multiplayer addons, while Quake is the brand name for multiplayer Arena style games. There is a third code name for a future planned project that will be a Massive Multiplayer Games, but I can't recall it right now.

Re:Calendars are for Blizzard.... (0, Redundant)

DragonMagic (170846) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506957)

That's Quake IV, not Doom IV, of course.

Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (2, Interesting)

egg troll (515396) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506545)

I am a huge admirer of John Carmack and the work he's done with Id. That said I'm disappointed that he's not doing more than just recycling the same style FPS. Honestly, there hasn't been anything truly new in the FPS genre since CounterStrike came out ages ago.


It seems that everything imitates one of a few different styles. I'm saddened to see that an intelligent and creative man like John Carmack is just repeating himself.

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506597)

If you think C is difficult to use than you must be a fucking moron.

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506665)

If you think ASM is difficult to use, then you must be one too.

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506934)

If you think binary is difficult to use, you are one, no question.

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (5, Interesting)

Papineau (527159) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506598)

Consider that he's mostly "only" doing the 3D graphics engine, and that a couple mod groups have started to modify Quake into something quite different from a FPS (I remember a racing game). Once the engine is up and running, you can code the actual "game implementation" anyway you like, ie any game style. I'm pretty sure somebody could evolve Doom3 into a RTS, given enough time and incentive.

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506600)

I've always thought of ID's games as technology demos that other game companies can license and then create all sorts of specialty games. Kind of like how Quake begat Half-Life and Half-Life begat Counter-Strike.

Does anyone know if ID makes more money on selling its own games or on licensing out the engines?

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (1)

retto (668183) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506813)

I don't recall off-hand, but I read an article about ID that said they licensed the Quake 3 engine out for $150,000 plus a percentage. They make more from the licensing than the games they create themselves. Quake 3 was little more than a beta test of the graphics engine.

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506605)

Isn't a FPS recycling by it's very nature?

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (1)

bsdfish (518693) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506618)

Carmack is an engine guy, not a game play mechanics one. And as far as engines, iD games have been rather excelent. The screenshots for Doom 3 look great and I expect it to be a fun game to play, but I don't think it will revolutionize gaming by introducing a new genre. Hopefully, there will be some new innovative games made on the Doom 3 engine though.

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506666)

What was REALLY so original about counterstrike, then?

Re:Pretty eye-candy, but not much else... (1)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506859)

What you say doesn't make sense. Counterstrike is multiplayer and it's true that most of the current popular multiplayer games owe a lot to CS.

We don't know yet whether Carmack will be repeating himself, Quake 3 was multiplayer only and was developed too early to be influenced by CS. Their has been movement in the single player FPS genre, witness Half Life and Deus Ex. It will be interesting to see the influence of these games on Doom 3 (if any).

Bearing in mind the potential for the licenceing potential of Doom 3 I think it is impossible for ID to lose money from it, whatever time of year they release it.

q4 = jan-mar 03? (0, Insightful)

gr8gatzby (624204) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506550)

hate to be a stickler fer detail, but Q4 of 2004 is actually October to December of 2004....not January to March

Fiscal year != calendar year (4, Informative)

douglips (513461) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506718)

For some reason known only to accountants and PHBs, many corporations base their 'fiscal' year off of a different quarter than the calendar year. In general, the fiscal year number is the number of the highest calendar year that forms part of the fiscal year.

So, for id/Activision, fiscal year 2004 runs from April 2003 to March 2004.

Re:q4 = jan-mar 03? (1)

meador (618932) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506805)

Ahh... but the articles as 'FISCAL q4' -- A fiscal year is a budgetary and financial reporting cycle, and often doesn't begin on January 1. We can assume that Activision's fiscal starts on April 1...

Re:q4 = jan-mar 03? (1)

w3svc_animal (629519) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506827)

>>"penciled" on their calendars for fiscal Q4 (Jan-March) 2004.

Many companies run on their own version of a annual calendar - called a Fiscal Calendar - done primarily for accounting/budgeting purposes

Apparently, id's FISCAL year starts on 4/1.

**Man who stand on toilet - - is high on pot.

This is a good thing (-1, Redundant)

anonymous coword (615639) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506565)

By then 4 Ghz processors, 2G ram, Radeon 10000 and Linux 2.7 should be out, which will make doom3 run at full speed.

Re:This is a good thing (1)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506623)

By then... Linux 2.7 should be out

2.7.0 should be out sometime this winter...

Re:This is a good thing (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506638)

by then even a mac will probably be able to play it too =P

Re:This is a good thing (1)

Nightlily (140378) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506856)

No, going by ID's track record with releasing Mac releases, I probably won't be able to buy a Mac version of Doom 3 until 2005. Maybe I should plan on buying it to celebrate finishing grad school.

I'm waiting for HL 2... (0, Troll)

Wolfier (94144) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506578)

To hell with Doom 3, unless id shows us a more impressive demo.

Re:I'm waiting for HL 2... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506609)

Yeah, my guess is that the good folks at iD pissed their pants upon seeing the HL 2 videos, and have decided to rewrite Doom 3 from scratch.

Not what I heard ... (3, Funny)

SuperDuG (134989) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506585)

... I heard that they're going to release a 3 part box set ...

1.) Duke Nuke Um Forever
2.) Team Fortress 2
3.) Doom III

They're calling it the "vaporware of the century pack" and it will be available for the low cost of $0.00 that's right folks, free.

Just playing, I mean it's not like there aren't screenshots that people love and a huge crowd of ever-anticipating buyers just waiting.

Re:Not what I heard ... (5, Funny)

spezz (150943) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506669)


yeah, but it's only coming out on the phantom

Who this REALLY hurts (5, Interesting)

captain_craptacular (580116) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506595)

Is nVidia and ATI. The new version of any game like this generates as much sales for them as it does for whoever put the game out I bet.

I'd also bet that AMD and Intel see a nice little spike when a new generation hallmark game comes out. Thats the kind of thing that everyone is waiting for to upgrade...

Re:Who this REALLY hurts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506610)

meh, i'll be buying for HL2..

Awwww. (2, Insightful)

Amorpheus_MMS (653095) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506601)

Looks like 2003 is going to be a bit less of the kickass-gaming year it looked to be. And if Doom 3 is only out in 2004, some games that will be released meanwhile could make id's design look real old. *cough* [members.aon.at]

HL 2 Mighted have changed things (5, Insightful)

felonious (636719) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506603)

I'm thinking that after Valve's E3 techdemo and their subsequent best of show awards with little mention of ID/D3 that ID were taken off guard. I'm sure they thought they'd waltz in there and floor the place but Valve came out of no where and blew the socks off of everything hands down.

I think ID realized that they would have to revamp somewhat and code additional features into the engine itself as well as enhance gameplay so the worlds would at the very least be as interactive as the worlds in HL2.

I've never been a HL fanboy the movies I've seen of in game play not cinematics are amazing! They have revolutionized gaming and are taking it in a new direction in terms of a fully interactive world. Go dl a movie of HL 2 off Kazaa or BT and see what I mean.

I had no intentions of purchasing HL 2 but after the tech-demo/in game movies I will now buy it.

Re:HL 2 Mighted have changed things (5, Insightful)

jace48 (566123) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506806)

***
I'm thinking that after Valve's E3 techdemo and their subsequent best of show awards with little mention of ID/D3 that ID were taken off guard. I'm sure they thought they'd waltz in there and floor the place but Valve came out of no where and blew the socks off of everything hands down.
******

Or just a maketing strategy seeing the demo movie of Doom III and Half Life 2. Half Life is far superior to Doom III, and since Doom III is slated to be released on 2 fortnite of Spetember ID does not wants there sales to be affected by HL. Once people have already had the taste of HL ID can safely release Doom.

Its going to get very interesting... (2, Interesting)

Eluding Reality (691589) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506613)

...for FPS gamers over the next couple of years

We have Half Life 2 coming out, its engine alone will be used in numerous games and for numerous mods, then Doom 3 and its engine will produce yet more games and all before Quake 4, whose engine is likely to be used in as many games as Half life 2s engine. Thats not even inculding those three games themselves which will all be first rate.

And of course following the release of HL2, the DNF team will switch to the HL2 engine and start again... then to the Doom engine etc etc you know the drill by now

Do activision really care when it's released ? (1)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506616)

I don't want to state the obvious or anything but this game is gonna sell whether it is released at Xmas time or not.

I'm not too bothered, AFAIK both Half Life 2 and Deus Ex 2 are still on track for release in quarter 4 (if I am being honest I am anticipating DX2 much more than Doom 3).

Re:Do activision really care when it's released ? (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506814)

Hell yes. DX1 was the best FPS I've ever played. All Id does is remake Doom 1 every year or so.

Re:Do activision really care when it's released ? (1)

Vann_v2 (213760) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506875)

The best way to measure the value of a single-player FPS or RPG is to see how longer before you have to break open crates. Under that metric, DX fails instantly.

Never mind the fact that the AI is the WORST EVER. Good lord, if someone spots me all I have to do is run into a bathroom stall and they shrug it off eventually. Ugh.

Re:Do activision really care when it's released ? (1)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506920)

The best way to measure the value of a single-player FPS or RPG is to see how longer before you have to break open crates. Under that metric, DX fails instantly.

Never mind the fact that the AI is the WORST EVER. Good lord, if someone spots me all I have to do is run into a bathroom stall and they shrug it off eventually. Ugh.


I kinda agree on both points but you must also bear in mind that this game was released in 1999, yep four years ago (where does the time go ?). Hopefully your criticisms will be addressed in DX2. And DX was never really about the action anyway, it was all about the story.

Activision's Business Plan (0, Funny)

Dukael_Mikakis (686324) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506832)

1) Hype cutting-edge game of popular franchise
2) Release demos to pique interest of target market
3) Never release said product
4) ???????
5) PROFIT!

When its done... (4, Insightful)

Sylver Dragon (445237) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506635)

Is it just me or does this ideology seem to lead to titles dying from over engineering. I don't think it'll come as a shock to anyone that when you let the engineers decide when a product is ready to ship, that it will never ship. On the other side of the rope are the marketers who want to realease it now, now, now. What you need is someone in the middle who is willing to give a cut-off date, a deadline. This means that the engineers are not allowed to keep adding features, creating bugs, and fixing those bugs after a certain point, and that the marketers have to wait for a product to actually exist before booking orders. Ya, deadlines suck, most of us probably deal with them in our jobs, but they are necessary to making a company run, as long as they are realistic. Too short, and the product sucks, too long and the product dies in engineering or misses the market. When its done, seems to be a deadline that is just way to long for bringing a product to market, and slowly builds dissatisfaction in the customers who would buy your product.

Re:When its done... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506706)

It's just you.

If you have a point, one that's not completely hypothetical, you need to provide evidence. All games I've played that were released "when it's done" (e.g. Blizzard's games) were fun as hell, although that might mean over-engineered in terms of profit/time

Re:When its done... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506735)

Also, I'd like to point out that Doom 3 is going to be released to the mass market, who don't keep tabs on game development. They can keep delaying as long as they want to, and it won't build any dissatisfaction. The Doom legacy might become less famous, but given how long it's already been that's not a big deal.

Doom 3 should be open source w/ tips (1)

Thinkit3 (671998) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506639)

That will make a lot of money.

Re:Doom 3 should be open source w/ tips (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506919)

There is no monopoly in game engines, so there's no impetus for an open source game engine like there is for OS's and office suites. Open source makes more sense in segments where barriers to entry would be insurmountable for other distribution models.

As expected... I hope. (5, Interesting)

soupart (691584) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506648)

Gaming go only go so far without getting dull and the need for TRUE innovation is a needed factor in the grand sceme of things. It's gotten dull. I don't need more fps. I don't need the same fps with different weapons. And, of course, more frames per second with different guns does me little good as well.

Maybe this is a sign that there are good things to come. I just hope that there is some true innovation involved.

It's not surpsing Carmack wants to get it right. (4, Interesting)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506664)

If you consider how scaleable the Quake 3 engine is, and the fact that many games are still being released using it today (Star Trek - Elite Force 2 for example) then it is no surprise that Carmack wants to get the Doom 3 Engine right. After all ID will be licenscing this technology left right and center for 3 or 4 years at least.

Last time I believe our distributor's dates (1)

Platinum Dragon (34829) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506668)

This is pretty amusing, considering that our store's main distributor recently posted a release date of October 6 for Doom 3.

Then again, the clairvoyants over there also seem to think the release date for Halo 2 is sure to be Oct. 15, 2004.

Anyone else in retail care to enlighten me as to where distributors get these dates, aside from directly out of their asses?

Re:Last time I believe our distributor's dates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506953)

Honestly I think a lot of them pull dates from reports off of IGN. Very few of the dates are from the actual companies.

Insurance Against the SEC (1)

MBCook (132727) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506673)

Maybe this is just insurace agaist the SEC. Games tend to get delayed, so they give a conservative estimate, and if it gets done "early", they release it then. This way they can't be accused of letting the game slip but using it to boost profits/stock price/whatever.

Bad news but also good news (1)

Andy Smith (55346) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506685)

I know you should never trust release dates for games, but with retailers citing a specific date for so long (August 21) I've been counting the days until Doom comes out.

Amazon now states November 14. Why exactly?

I very nearly bought a new graphics card the other day, figuring I'd have a month to make sure it was installed and working properly. (Home PC == work PC so I can't tinker.)

But then, an extra six months or so... it won't kill me. And the game will be better. Hell we might even have broadband in my area by then!

So I'm disappointed but it's good news too. Now I just hope Id don't go and panic when it's "nearly done", rush it out and have us all downloading patches for a year.

I wonder if the system specs will be higher now, seeing as the current high-end specs will be mid-range or budget specs by Q1 2004.

HalfLife 2 (0)

Mayak (688458) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506687)

This is not a doom3 vs Halflife2 flamewar. I would imagine they simply do not want to compete with Halflife 2 for shelf space after seeing their impressive E3 demo. If you have seen the E3 it will all make sense then. Far more interactivity and gee-whiz effects (like advanced physics and vehicles) and with a minimum spec of a TNT2 video card, a far bigger market to roll into. HalfLife2 is poised to become the biggest selling game of all time and everyone knows it.

Strategy? (1)

reiggin (646111) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506704)

Maybe id is waiting til FPS's are fashionable again. Lord knows I've had enough of them for the time being. Carmack, wait as long as necessary. Wet my palette. If it's most excellent, it may revive a dying breed of game.

I dont care when its out... (4, Funny)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506708)

but idspispopd better still work.

meh (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506716)

Who really cares? By the time it finally comes out we'll have been playing better designed and more exciting games (think half-life 2) for several months. All Doom 3 will be is standard Id product; a pretty engine, and graphics and a storyline ripped off the cover of a bad 80's heavy metal album.

No Doom 3 This Year? (5, Funny)

tds67 (670584) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506762)

Of course there's Doom this year. It's called the RIAA.

Re:No Doom 3 This Year? (5, Funny)

tds67 (670584) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506782)

Oh, wait...you said Doom 3.

That would be the RIAA, MPAA and SCO.

Re:No Doom 3 This Year? (1)

tds67 (670584) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506812)

Oh, I apologize: You said Games: No Doom 3 This Year?

Yes, the RIAA, MPAA and SCO are playing games, aren't they?

Re:No Doom 3 This Year? (5, Funny)

Requiem (12551) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506944)

There are days when I wish for a "-5, Tragically Unfunny" mod.

MS to blame? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506792)

Wasn't there a delay announced, in lew of a version for the Xbox to be released simultaneously? I guess a dumptruck full of money can change just about anyone's mind...

doom hardware sepcs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6506794)

It's probably done now they are just waiting untill hardware to run it is widely available.

At least... (1)

D. Book (534411) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506810)

...this gives everyone more time to save up for a video card capable of running the damn thing :)

Re:At least... (1)

TheShadow (76709) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506895)

Or for NVidia and ATI to develop cards that will run it.

Too Soon... (1)

Ender77 (551980) | more than 11 years ago | (#6506873)

While I like to find out what games are coming out, sometimes I wish that they would wait and not mention anything until it goes gold master. I can't say I am surprised about the delay though, There was already hints that this might be the case when we didn't get ANY new info at E3, besides most popular games are usually delayed for one reason or another and that is too be expected. It is just when the delays go from months to years that things start to get sour.
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