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France Offers Grants For Game Makers

simoniker posted more than 11 years ago | from the steer-away-from-national-stereotypes dept.

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vasqzr writes "According to a BBC News article, if you come up with a good idea for a video game in France, you could get a helping hand from the state." The article elaborates: "The French Government is offering four million euros [$4.5 million] to help aspiring game developers turn their ideas into reality." But not everybody can just purloin the money: "The government will pay for up to 40% of the cost... but there are strings attached... to get a slice of the cash, firms have to be French and the work developing an idea must be done in France itself" and apparently, the content of the game is important too, as "...the French Government... will not hand out grants for violent or pornographic games."

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for piss!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6508329)

for piss! this one is for piss!

take that, GNAA~ You lose!

Free game: French Army (3, Funny)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 11 years ago | (#6508332)

The game will be just like Americas Army. Except you control soldiers running away from Iraqi republic guards and pouring american beverage down the sewers for points.

Re:Free game: French Army (4, Funny)

LazerImp (678727) | more than 11 years ago | (#6508377)

Not to mention sending and receiving lots of courriels.

Re:Free game: French Army (1)

Inda (580031) | more than 11 years ago | (#6509605)

If only I had Mod points...

C'mon Mods; lighten up a little. This is funny.

One word... (5, Funny)

ChrisSontagsAnus (685214) | more than 11 years ago | (#6508365)

Frogger.

they make a good point (2, Funny)

toddhunter (659837) | more than 11 years ago | (#6508392)

after all games containing sex and violence never sell well anyways.

Nonviolent games. (4, Funny)

executebusiness.com (681094) | more than 11 years ago | (#6508685)

Is there such a thing?

PacMan was violent. And Pacman has an eating disorder.

Pong. Those horrible little lines smash that poor speck of light on the screen. That poor speck!

Any sports games are violent. And they cause violence.

Even Barbie games are totally violent.

And has anyone here played Aladdin for Sega Genesis? Geez. That was the roughest G-rated game I've ever played.

Even Tetris is violent the way I play it.

I can't think of one nonviolent game. So I guess these French guys want to not only cash in on the gaming industry, but they want to become famous by creating the first nonviolent video game!

What will they call it?

Clever Paint Drying 2005!

Re:Nonviolent games. (2, Interesting)

syrinx (106469) | more than 11 years ago | (#6509576)

"Even Pac-Man glorifies cannibalism and aberrant spiritually by depicting the consumption of the undead."

don't remember where that quote came from, but i thought of it when you mentioned pacman being violent. :)

Re:Nonviolent games. (2, Interesting)

Freon115 (672518) | more than 11 years ago | (#6510394)

non violent french games? the Rayman Series
i guess this law will help firms like Ubi Soft (Rayman and many other games for children), or Eden Studios (VRally).

and btw, here is another quote about pac man ;)
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-man affected us as kids we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive, electronic music." -Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989

Re:Nonviolent games. (1)

tprime (673835) | more than 11 years ago | (#6513208)

They will call the first non-violent game in history...

"French Foreign Policy"

F France (-1, Flamebait)

techgeek10101 (638645) | more than 11 years ago | (#6508733)

Fuck France up their stupid cheese eating surrender monkey asses!

Hah Hah! (1)

MBraynard (653724) | more than 11 years ago | (#6508736)

I suspect this will be as successful as the French government's subsidy of the movie industry in making Paris a dominant film making city. Yeah, right up there with Wilmington, North Carolina.

Funny how Ubisoft became so dominant without such a program.

Non-english speaking movies (1)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 11 years ago | (#6509079)

I'm no film buff, but of the non-english speaking movies I do hear about I think the vast majority of them are French. They must be doing something right.

Re:Non-english speaking movies (1)

PainKilleR-CE (597083) | more than 11 years ago | (#6513218)

The vast majority I hear about are Korean or Japanese, so maybe it's just the types of films you pay attention to ;)

Re:Hah Hah! (1)

xutopia (469129) | more than 11 years ago | (#6510065)

the last movie I saw was a French/American co-production and set in Paris/Chicago. The name of the movie was Crime spree with big names as Depardieu!

uDevGames (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6508817)

I think we should sponsor a contest similar to the uDevGames [idevgames.com] one sponsored for the Mac.

The way this would work is we would all pool together a lot of donations, perhaps through Linux Fund [linuxfund.org] .

The contest judging itself should be a physical meeting. I suggest we get one of the many empty large empty Dell or other facilities around Austin, and get it donated for a couple of days. All contestents show up, spectators buy a ticket and can play every game and fill out out a ballot. The ticket should cost about $2, enough to cover non-donated costs.

Any submitted code should go up on the web under the GPL, but of course the authors otherwise retain all rights, so that they can develope it into commercial products or sell the rights.

We can offer artists a section of wall space to display their work and contact info, as surely some of the game industry people will be circulating about.

I suggest that their be no set platform; so windows games would be welcome, but the code itself be available as part of the entry.

I think it would be fun, and it might lead to a bit of economic activity. I'd donate money to it. However, these types of projects generally need a fanatical organizer who is the person who makes it happen, who generally puts in a huge amount of time and gets burned out. I can't be that person. Any volunteers ?

Meanwhile (0, Insightful)

presearch (214913) | more than 11 years ago | (#6508833)

here in the US, our government is giving out rewards for
killing 14 year old boys in far away countries we invade.

"A great day for America!"

Re:Meanwhile here in the usa... sugarbitch prophet (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6509403)

we allow shithead traitors like yourself to live as free as the next guy.

here we allow those who want uday and quasay running around filling mass graves with innocents. it was funny for them to murder, and to be called the butched of baghdad, because diplomacy works!

here we allow kim jongs and ayatullahs to machinate webs of deception because liberals all know they are just faking it and its a big joke and they should be allowed to pursue thier own unilateral goals UNABATED because, lets be fair here, everyone should have thermonuclear weapons because then it would be an equal playing feild right?

wrong.

oh yeah, and i love bastard who are rich beyond belief, the beneficiearies of the western culture, self deprecating. let me tell you this, when the animals finally overrun us, the sane civilized westerners, maybe then you will realize the door doesnt swing both ways, and you better hang on to whatever you have because those who will take from you wont share, they will take everything and stab you in the back of the skull.

dont be fooled by communist/socialist/paralyzed by diplomancy self deprecating hypocrites like this.

they are only doing this because in a wonderful country such as the US they are unable to leverage the least-worst system to become happy, wealthy and fulfilled. NO, see, they love to shit on the least-worst systems of the western world because it somehow excuses them from thier own failures in life. makes them feel better.

listen, losers, stop fucking whining and seize the day. if the towelheads or chinks every do it, we will ALL BE FUCKING DEAD.

Re:Meanwhile here in the usa... sugarbitch prophet (1)

presearch (214913) | more than 11 years ago | (#6512373)

Forget about seizing the day, you should seize yourself a spell checker.

Re:Meanwhile here in the usa... sugarbitch prophet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6513278)

Sorry I wrote that on a very small screen in Lynx, not even Links. So fuck off bitch.

The message is clear. You have to fucking deprecate the player because he beat you down mother fucka. HAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAH. Classic cop out.

Re:Meanwhile here in the usa... sugarbitch prophet (1)

presearch (214913) | more than 11 years ago | (#6513437)

Coward.

Re:Meanwhile here in the usa... sugarbitch prophet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6519682)

motherfucking cuntcasket piece of shit.

Re:Meanwhile here in the usa... sugarbitch prophet (1)

presearch (214913) | more than 11 years ago | (#6520964)

Pathetic loser.

Re:Meanwhile here in the usa... sugarbitch prophet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6529902)

Hahhahha. HAHAHHAHA. Pathetic loser? Hahahaha. Whatever, you fucking slashdot tuff guy.

Look at you doling out the ratings man. You know how to shoot them down, baby.

I got a fever, and the only cure is more cowbell, not dumbell.

hahahaha. I fart in your general direction.

Re:Meanwhile (2, Insightful)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 11 years ago | (#6509924)

Welcome to Slashdot, where unsubstantiated hyperbole is labelled "insightful!"

Good Idea (3, Insightful)

Sszeto (691659) | more than 11 years ago | (#6509015)

I think this is a awsome idea that the French are doing. I only wish they did that here in Canada so that we could encourage the Gaming Industry here. Games are such a big revenue now that it could be very benificial for both the programmer and the government.

Re:Good Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6509927)

They already give sizable grants to artists for animation and television productionn.

Re:Good Idea (3, Informative)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 11 years ago | (#6510509)

The Canadian government CAN give cash injections for companies that are just starting out. In my local area they're carrying along quite well with a tech business incubator concept, where the region provides an area for tech companies to set up shop and helps them along with ideas for marketing and getting those government subsidies. So far it seems to be successful, there's at least one web designer company that "hatched" from that incubator and now has full fledged offices in a high-rise downtown. The idea of the incubator isn't new, but it seems to be really catching on around here thanks to an overall crummy economy.

Anyway, the short of it is that there IS money out there from the Canadian government. You just have to know how to get it, and the money isn't JUST for tech companies-- it's for any small business starting up.

Re:Good Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6512457)

Yeah, but it's all Canadian money, so that's not too helpful.

Good idea? No, it is corporate welfare (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6510528)

I don't think this is a good idea. Governments have better things to do with dearly exploited taxpayer dollars. This is just another form of corporate welfare.

another failed attempt at humor (3, Funny)

Synic (14430) | more than 11 years ago | (#6509185)

There goes my idea of the Erotic French Kiss of Death: The Game

Mmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6509926)

Mime Sweeper?

Give me a Freedom Grant! (2, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 11 years ago | (#6510114)

Due to my ongoing boycott of France (have not touched a french fry in months, and a certain style of kissing has been out too. No "Third Rock" reruns either!), I will not accept any such grants from the French government. However, call it a "freedom grant", and I will cash in.

Send me an e-mail....oops, that 18 letter french word for e-mail.... and let me know.

Re:Give me a Freedom Grant! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6520032)

Silly /.'er, French Fries are from Belgium.

Frogger? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6510170)

Do you think they might be offended if I call my new game "Frogger" ?

In violation of the law (2, Informative)

Basje (26968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6510331)

I don't know who came up with this story, but it totally unlikely that the french government would go ahead with this.

This is against EU laws, which prohibits governments supporting local companies, to promote competition across the EU (Article 87 of the Treaty Establishing The European Community).

If the french would do this, they would face stiff penalties.

Le Winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6511814)

Duke Nukem Surrender

Not enough money (1)

Jouni (178730) | more than 11 years ago | (#6512067)

The lump sum offered by French government is approximately the size of the development budget for one full size multi-console game title. One.

They could put the money into small developers who are just getting started, but this won't help serious development houses over the tough times.

Developers in Finland can also apply for money from the government, from organizations like TEKES [tekes.fi] . The percentage of support is up to 50% and the pool is many times larger than what the French government offers, in a country with much smaller population.

Don't get me wrong, I think what the French government is doing is great, and much more is needed. It's a good start, but not big enough to be important to most serious developers.

Jouni

It's the labor laws! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6512404)

Disclaimer: I work in the games industry, but in the USA.

I have coworkers who have emigrated to the USA from Europe. They all note one thing about the games industry in France: that the mandatory 35-hour workweek is the worst possible thing for developers there. Things like marking tires, and informants calling the government when someone's suspected of working long hours are all done.

Crunch time is an unfortunate necessary of game development (I so wish we didn't have to). Some companies crunch at 100 hours a week. (Not mine!) Some crunch closer to 55-hour weeks, which is pretty survivable. In France, that's just plain illegal.

What's ended up happening is that everyone that wants to work has emigrated (or is seriously thinking about it). France has started a brain drain that they won't realize for a while, because the stupid, lazy ones are in charge.

Re:It's the labor laws! (1)

mad.frog (525085) | more than 11 years ago | (#6514165)

Crunch time is an unfortunate necessary of game development (I so wish we didn't have to)

Bullshit. It may be an accepted cultural practice of the game dev industry, but it's not *necessary*.

Intelligent engineering practices and less-insane expectations about product cycles would dramatically improve the situation.

Yes, I formerly worked for a game company, and the sheer lack of professionalism was astonishing, and the 100-hour weeks were the way people made up for it...

The opposite of what French games need (1)

jordanda (160179) | more than 11 years ago | (#6512507)

French games are way too conservative and have been lacking. The only good game to come out of there to speak of is Syberia and it is an adventure game. Meanwhile, we have the beautiful and innovative Mafia are coming out of the Czech Republic, the government of which is in no position to give out game grants. The problem is culture, not resources.

Handing out grants is just going to make French games more conservative because the value of the games are going to be judged by government officials. I expect the result of this grant will be a pretty game with high production values but I also expect the gameplay with be rehashed from the late '80s.

Re:The opposite of what French games need (2, Interesting)

coolerthanmilk (312282) | more than 11 years ago | (#6514350)

>> The only good game to come out of there to speak of is Syberia and it is an adventure game.

And your point with this comment is? I agree with your concerns expressed in the rest of your comment, but I like adventure games. So do a lot of others. Thinking about it, of the games I've played in the last 6 months or so, 4 of them happen to be from French companies. That would be more than any other country over that time. But hey, I mostly like adventure games, of which there have been some decent French developers.

The Game Plan (1)

AvantLegion (595806) | more than 11 years ago | (#6516016)

Phase 1: Take startup money from French government and significantly upgrade your hardware.
Phase 2: Design a crappy nonviolent video game.
Phase 3: ???
Phase 4: Well, there's no profit, but you just took a French government handout and turned it into screaming fast computers and large flat-panel monitors. Do the happy dance!

france (0, Flamebait)

XO (250276) | more than 11 years ago | (#6517143)

I heard the other day, that the Eiffel Tower, in France, was on fire.

I then heard a few minutes later, that France was "prepared to surrender" to "whomever is at fault".

hrmm (1)

chadamir (665725) | more than 11 years ago | (#6522421)

I don't know if I like the idea of the people who brough us superman 64 handing out grants. Call me crazy, but flying through rings is just not my thing. Let's just hope they don't try to export.

non violent game idea... (1)

The Lynxpro (657990) | more than 11 years ago | (#6522551)

How about a sim where you are the French President? I can see lots of fun possibilities. You could authorize a strike on the terrorist organization known as Greenpeace. You could instruct your UN Ambassador to block every single U.S. initiative at the Security Council level. You could test nuclear weapons 20 years behind U.S. weaponry on some South Pacific dependency over the protests of the natives who worship airplanes. You could appoint a cultural minister whose only purpose is to ban all English words (nevermind how many French words are in the English language) from daily use in France. You could block French citizens from bathing daily in order to preserve French cultural distinction from Anglo-American influence. You could take bribes, excuse me, "campaign contributions" from dictatorships in the Middle East. You could sell weaponry and other goods to the same dictatorship(s) in the Middle East despite UN sanctions to the contrary. When said Middle Eastern dictatorship is invaded by the Anglo-Americans, you can authorize your embassy to issue passports to fleeing members of the deposed regime for a substantial profit, or in exchange for documents exposing previously mentioned gun-running to be shredded in France proper. And the rest of your game playing time could be spent appointing old guard members of your government to cushy positions in the European Union bureaucracy... Sign me up! I swear, the Bonapartes, the Burbons, and the Orleanists must be turning in their graves...

well ... i didn t knew that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6526880)

Okay maybe i think this what stupid from the start or maybe you really think what you are saying but please go post your politicals comments somewhere else.
Surrender ... what a poor way of seeing a war ..
Bring a mass destruction weapon, i mean something else than a potatoe gun and we will talk.
I am very sad about the level of posts here.
I was thinking slashdot as a kind of geek (i mean here people capable of using their brain to construct) paradize.
All quotes about french people now is about a war done by an alcoholic to finish his father s work.
I can't get this kind of use of a "brain" maybe i ve just no humor about this.
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