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In-Dash DIN-form-factor Car PC

CowboyNeal posted more than 11 years ago | from the taking-the-computer-for-a-spin dept.

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kraksmokr writes "Xenarc Technologies have introduced a cool new in-dash DIN-form-factor Car PC. It features built in hard drive, audio/video, and GPS, among other things. Estimated price will be about $1200. I can't even begin to list the possibilities for mobile computing bliss." I'm even more impressed that they can fit it into the dash than I am with in-dash CD changers. If you buy this thing, use it safely. None of us want auto PC users to end up in the same category as annoying cell phone users.

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Great.. (3, Funny)

neodymium (411811) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530176)

.. so we'll finally get people watching DivX while doing 90mph on the freeway.

Re:Great.. (1)

Jason1729 (561790) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530180)

Now where'd I put that DivX of Days of Thunder.

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Your President is a Criminal (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530350)

(by Daniel Patrick Welch, 2003-07-14)

It's well past time to say it. Despite the weaseling and finger-pointing -- in fact, because of it -- the forged Niger letter is indeed the smoking gun, and the chips have yet to stop falling. Who wrote the damn thing, and on whose orders? Who cares whether Tenet, his job on the line, acquiesced to including a literal truth that actually amounts to one of the great frauds of the century? The sheer audacity and cynicism of this coterie of hacks and hustlers is simply astounding. As a teacher, I won't let six-year-olds get away with such transparent sophistry. The bottom line is that Bush knew the information was bogus, and used it anyway to convince millions to go along with his phony war.

For that alone, for the memory of the thousands of dead Iraqis and Americans, he deserves the il Duce treatment (figuratively speaking, Mr. Ashcroft -- no need to start tapping my phone or putting me on no-fly lists). The criminal enterprise called the Bush administration is (Helen Thomas was right) the worst ever. Their campaign in furtherance of the conspiracy to defraud the public into buying the Iraq war is one of the the most cynical abuses of power in U.S. history. It deserves to be treated as such.

Alarmist? You bet. This guy already thinks (and occasionally tells foreign leaders) that he gets his orders from God. If these radical extremists can get away with this, then the dumbing down of America will be complete, and the stage will be set for the next wave of the nascent fascism. La Cosa Bush (apologies to the mafia) is, like all crime families, violent, arrogant, and beyond the reach of the law -- so far. Bush's handlers no longer even have the decency, courage or self-restraint to prevent his criminally stupid comments from wreaking havoc around the globe. Was last week's pseudo-macho invitation to "Bring 'em on" even a mistake? Or was it another calculated ploy to make him look "tough" to the American people, playing to the ugliest side of the American psyche while once again enraging thinking people the world over. No matter -- he must be stopped. This cabal has been lying, cheating, and manipulating national tragedy to force their right-wing agenda down our throats long enough.

And half-measures won't do any more. None of this vague safe rhetoric about "misleading" or cautious calls for those who "know who they are" to step down. WE know who they are, the junta that has hijacked our government and our national agenda. The cartel must go: Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle should all resign, be fired or impeached immediately, before their conspiracy of lies and their mutual pact of self-protection is allowed to further endanger the country and the world. Cornered criminals, especially stupid ones, are a dangerous lot, and there is no telling to what lengths they will go to cover their own behinds.

On a mission from God, installed by a viciously partisan Supreme Court, the skids are greased for a further slide into misadventure, bankruptcy and ruin. With the addition of Congress on their side, they are acting with particularly reckless abandon -- and impeachment is not in the cards as long as the GOP circles the wagons. None will have the courage or integrity Goldwater showed when he told Nixon the jig was up. Power corrupts, and the Republicans are so drunk with it they won't turn on their Lord Fauntleroy until he robs a bank on camera in broad daylight.

But that is no reason not to tell the truth: whatever their chances, some of the braver souls in congress should introduce impeachment legislation immediately: Conyers, Kucinich, Lee, Paul? The media has already shown they will not help; moneyed interests overwhelmingly favor the right. A campaign based on the old game of raising oodles of money and buying ads is a sure failure. The only thing that can save us now is a grassroots, velvet revolution, the principled, impassioned movement calling for these people's head on a spike.

And maybe, just maybe, this one isn't an impeachable offense, but I'm just plain getting sick of Rumsfeld's smug, arrogant grin on the tube. What the hell is he smiling at all the time? Is it funny, somehow, that thousands of Iraqi civilians are dead after his "precision" bombing? It is ironic, admittedly, another fraud, to be sure -- but hardly amusing. Maybe it's just part of what you do when you think you can get away with anything.

Senate Intelligence Chair Pat Roberts foreshadowed just how twisted the logic is going to get when he said that what concerns him most "is what appears to be a campaign of press leaks by the CIA in an effort to discredit the president." Yeah, right. The black bag set, whose penchant for secrecy and service verges on pathology, are the real problem here -- not the curious fact that even some of them have finally decided that things are so bad that someone, somewhere has to speak out.

It's time to close the curtain on this Bizarro World. Saddam loyalists -- not nationalist resistance to occupation -- are the real problem in Iraq. Protesters are terrorists, but we are fighting for our freedoms. Bush's popularity remains robust, yet huge shows of force and repressive rules on free speech are needed to keep the viewing public from seeing that he is dogged by prostest at every turn. War is peace, freedom is slavery, and some animals are more equal than others. The lies won't stop until we fire the liars.

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I don't have a president (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530426)

Why is it that you ultra-right wing christian fundamentalist nuts assume everybody is a yank?

Divx on the Freeway (5, Funny)

eaglebtc (303754) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530182)

Officer: "Driver's License and Registr.... say, is that Beverly Hills Cop you're watching there? Mind if I jump in?"

Re:Divx on the Freeway (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530503)

aHuh-Huh-Huh! (that was my Eddie Murphy impression... laugh!)

Re:Great.. (5, Insightful)

mirko (198274) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530188)

DivX ?
With a Pentium 266 MMX ?
I hope you're not expecting all the FPS.

Re:Great.. (1)

gfody (514448) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530311)

no kidding.. not that long ago I tried to watch a divx on a p3 400mhz. got about 5-10fps avg with skippy audio

Re:Great.. (0, Redundant)

Specialist2k (560094) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530191)

.. so we'll finally get people watching DivX while doing 90mph on the freeway.

Not with a Pentium MMX 266...

This device definitely hasn't enough computing power to use it for anything fun... ;-)

Re:Great.. (2, Insightful)

Lussarn (105276) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530197)

I have had fun on computers since the day they reached 1 mhz. Whats wrong with this one?

Re:Great.. (4, Informative)

luzrek (570886) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530224)

Turns out that in order to pack a computer into a very small space you really need to worry about heat. This is why most notebook computers (which are larger than this case, and other very small cases) run much slower than their desktop equivalents, for instance I think that the Centrino package from Intel starts witha 1.2 GHz processor (low end), and that is a brand new product. Anyway, the low power consumption chips are from Transmeta (I think 933MHz at 6 Watts) and VIA (Eden at 600Mhz at 6 Watts, C3 1GHz at 10 Watts?). Using said chips gets you away from the need for Fans (useful for computers in living rooms) and that lets you goto small form factors.

For more information check out mini-itx [mini-itx.com] or the super small case offerings of casetronic or Morex. Both of Casetronic and Morex make at least one case that has the same physical dimensions as a car stereo. Keep in mind these cases typically require the 2.5" hard drives and "slim" CD/CDRW/DVD drives which drives up the overall cost of the system and limits performance.

Re:Great.. (4, Insightful)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530387)

They should have used the C3 processor instead of the an old Pentium chip.

Linux is the ideal OS since you can recompile plenty of apps to work with the particular CPU. Although I don't want to leave the car engine running while doing a Gentoo build :)

Re:Great.. (4, Insightful)

Basje (26968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530447)

With a car, fan sound is less of an annoyance than in an otherwise silent office of living room. A car already makes quite some noise. As long as the fan noise stays under the car noise, it's not a bother.

Maybe you'll say that modern luxury cars are actually more silent than a 'puter fan. I do not think that is true, except for the high end lexus, volvo and bmw. Those are always equipped with airc, so they need less ventilation because they can are cooled with cool air anyway.

Pr0n! (4, Interesting)

BitwizeGHC (145393) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530193)

Apparently the studly thing to do if you are a ricer type, is to have pr0n running on the video screens on the backs of your headrests. That way everybody you drive past can get either offended or dangerously distracted. I have personally seen this once, and there was also a news item about it.

Re:Pr0n! (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530365)

Sod that for a lark, stick a 50" plasma in your back window. Run the pr0n on that, and watch the other drivers freak out.

Re:Great.. (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530208)

Good luck getting DivX files to play on an MMX-266. That said, obligatory Karma Whore copy&paste... oh wait, I'm AC. Whatever.

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Specifications

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Re:Great.. (1)

D4MO (78537) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530324)

Not on an Intel Pentium MMX-266 MHz CPU, you won't

I want the monitor more.. (1)

shotgunefx (239460) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530179)

I'm waiting for the In-Dash Touchscreen Computer Monitor, which I hear will be released at the end of August.

Not just for MM (4, Insightful)

spectrokid (660550) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530461)

You slashdotters see this thing as a multimedia machine. I think their biggest market is the enterprise. Base-station in the truck with GPS, handheld connecting with bluetooth, GSM connection to the main office... Think of all the shipping applications, visiting nurses, the guy recording the meter,...

Re:Not just for MM (1)

shotgunefx (239460) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530480)

While there is a bit of "gee whiz", the main reason for me to put a computer in my car is to untether myself from work. I love the idea that if there's a problem at work, I can pull over, ssh into the servers and then continue on my way.

Perhaps I'll be able to leave the state once and awhile.

Re:Not just for MM (3, Insightful)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530493)

the main reason for me to put a computer in my car is to untether myself from work

Actually, it sounds like you're tethering yourself to work even more.

Re:Not just for MM (1)

shotgunefx (239460) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530500)

Perhaps the wrong choice of words. I'm already tethered 24/7, but I'm more than happy to extend the range to anywhere my car can go.

Re:Not just for MM (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530508)

Fair enough, but I hope it's your business. If not, might be time to rethink things...

Who do you work for? I work for me, but other people pay me to do stuff for them.

FUCK YOURSELF! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530184)

I'm in favor of natural selection. If you can't live in your current condition without prolonged medical aid, you can go on and die. This includes: people in comas, people who are too fat to move (remember that Jerry Springer?), and Keith Richards.

I'm in favor of people's right to throw away their lives however they want to. If people want to do heroin or race their cars down deserted mountain roads without seatbelts, let 'em. The government has no right to tell people how they can and cannot die.

I'm in favor of legalizing drugs. See above.

I'm in favor of corrupting the youth. Might as well go on and get it over with. Has to happen sometime.

I'm in favor of sex and violence on TV. I like to watch people get beat up. I like to watch scantily clad women cover each other in canola oil. Sue me.

I'm in favor of eating whatever you want in whatever amount you want whenever you want. Every time someone tells me "Oh, that's not good for you!" or "Murderer! You killed that [insert animal here]," I feel like screaming, "I'm the top of the food chain, baby! I'll eat what I want!"

I'm in favor of the brutal beating of Joel Schumaker, but that's another story.

I'm in favor of the death penalty. I think it should be televised. You could make serious money by putting that on pay-per-view. That money could go towards paying back for the untold thousands of dollars that was wasted by keeping that waste of skin in a nice prison cell for a dozen years or more.

I'm completely in favor of making a mockery of things that most people hold dear. I try to make a mockery of at least one highly revered thing each day. Nothing is sacred. Nothing. I reserve the right to make fun of anything or anyone for any reason, just as I will respect other people's right to make fun of me for whatever reason they choose.

I'm in favor of any group that pushes at the bounds of reasonable society. I may not personally approve of their beliefs or their methods, but these groups keep society from becoming stagnant. Stagnation of a civilization is a deadly thing, and it should be avoided at all costs.

I'm in favor of change.

I'm in favor of people who think for themselves. I'm in favor of doubt and questioning. Never take anything for granted. Never accept what you are told. Doubt, think, question everything. This is the only way that you can ever truly call yourself free. If you take things as they are given to you at the word of others, then you are enslaving yourself to the thoughts of others.

I'm in favor of sex. Well, I would be if I could get any...

I'm in favor of opposing the man.

I'm opposed to oppression of any form.

I'm opposed to stupidity. If you're stupid, learn something! Anything! Honestly people...

I'm opposed to the senseless beating of Joel Schumaker by a band of masked hooligans. I should be allowed to do it.

I'm opposed to me having children. I don't like children. I really, really don't.

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Re:FUCK YOURSELF! (-1, Troll)

Eric Ass Raymond (662593) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530472)

I just want to tell you're spot on.

Really liked the "corrupting the youth", "making a mockery" and stagnation bits in particular.

Another computer in cars (1, Funny)

Shiva_Khan (691889) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530190)

Wow and from what I know about cars I thought they already had enough computers in them.

Road Rage! (4, Funny)

fuzzybunny (112938) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530196)


Awesome. Now I can finally play Grand Theft Auto while cruising through the Ghetto.

Re:Road Rage! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530259)

Awesome. Now I can finally play Grand Theft Auto while cruising through the Ghetto.

On a Pentium MMX-266? Good luck! :)

Re:Road Rage! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530455)

Grand Theft Auto 1.

Re:Road Rage! (1)

inaeldi (623679) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530469)

Grand Theft Auto 1 runs fine on a Pentium 200.

A great movie to take along for the ride... (2, Funny)

eaglebtc (303754) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530199)

'Bullitt.' A must-see for that long ride into the Vegas sunset. Then you have an excuse for the cop: "Sorry, officer? I was just practicing those stunts back there! I thought Bullitt was an educational film."

Walk and chew gum (1, Interesting)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530200)

Before allowing a person to operate an in-dash computer system in a car, they should be able to show that their own brain has sufficient processing power to think, drive, and use the computer at the same time.


Same thing with cell phone users, that you must be able to talk and drive and the same time and walk and chew gum at the same time.

With apologies to Dom Joly (5, Funny)

chrisbtoo (41029) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530205)

None of us want auto PC users to end up in the same category as annoying cell phone users.


<chrisbtoo> HELLO!
<chrisbtoo> I'M IN THE CAR!
<chrisbtoo> THE CAR!
<chrisbtoo> NO, IT'S SHIT!

Re:With apologies to Dom Joly (1)

spiny (87740) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530359)

+1: Trigger Happy TV :)

$1200? (3, Insightful)

grumm3t (620808) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530206)

It's upsetting the $1,200 price-tag pays more for the compact-type computer than for the computer parts itself. I'd like to see a release of a more asthetic and powerful computer. Removing the CDROM would free up some room for upgrades and since many in-dash CD players are regular PC CDROMS some sort of uplink through that doesn't seem so farfetched.

Re:$1200? (4, Interesting)

luzrek (570886) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530248)

You could always build your own using a EPIA-M (or other EPIA) motherboard/processor combo from VIA, a car-stereo sized case from Casetronic or Morex, and a "slim" CD/CDRW/DVD, and a 2.5" Harddrive (and ram). Alternatively, if you already have wireless networking in your garage, you could skip the optical drive and just transfer files to it that way. When I built my slightly larger "living room" PC I think I ended up spending about 600-700$, so I'ld expect to pay about that for a car stereo sized one.

Re:$1200? (2, Insightful)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530481)

And here's the link [casetronic.com] . Yes, it fits in your dashboard too.

$1200 is pretty steep, for just an underpowered small PC - it's probably an overpriced "industrial" board that's been repackaged, and I'm not sure the 266MHz box will play DVD's and run those funky xmms plugins quite as well as a GHz VIA board. When counting the cost of you're in-car PC, don't forget the touchscreen and tiny-LCD display either - typing's a bitch when you're driving.

/whoring

or the os :) (1)

gnu-sucks (561404) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530210)

None of us want auto PC users to end up in the same category as annoying cell phone users.

Or the same OS they will likely run

perfect mp3 player for my honda civic (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530212)

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i want it in my ass
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with lots of hooks and bait
and fishing weight

my asspussy is full of trout
please fish them out

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Weapons of Mass Destruction (5, Funny)

TheMidget (512188) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530213)

This PC even has two PCMCIA sockets good for wireless communication.

Hey, it's a wardriving machine!

Re:Weapons of Mass Destruction (1)

grumm3t (620808) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530217)

Hahah, that's what I thought when I saw that ;) Plenty of room to run Netstumbler eh?

Re:Weapons of Mass Destruction (1)

spydir31 (312329) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530323)

And you can go automapping with the built in GPS :)

Re:Weapons of Mass Destruction (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530505)

Don't you really mean... Weapons of Mass Distribution!

interface, interface, interface (5, Informative)

RMH101 (636144) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530214)

this is all very well but is a pc what you want in your car? keyboard, mouse, tiny icons due to running on a small LCD? unless someone's released "Windows XP Car edition" or similar I really don't see this as all that useful - compared to say a navigation unit and an in car MP3 player. Or a PDA based system that has an OS that's in ROM and can be
Ubiquitous computing doesn't necesarily mean a *PC* is the best tool for the job. I don't fancy driving into the back of someone because I was trying to click on the MSN messenger icon...

Re:interface, interface, interface (2, Informative)

grumm3t (620808) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530227)

Already done [computerworld.com]

Re:interface, interface, interface (3, Informative)

soliaus (626912) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530240)

"Windows XP Car edition"

Linux has been in this market for years. It all started with the embedded systems kernel. This is why Linux is so remarkable, because it has done many things it was not originally intended to do, and excelled at them through the genius of open source programmers. Linux could be comparable to *o*r*g, a custom OS with its own kernel a friend built. The point is, you have never heard of it. The same was at one time true for linux, and look at it now.

Html is fun. So is the ctrl-alt-del sequence

Re:interface, interface, interface (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530355)

YHBT. YHL. HAND.

Re:interface, interface, interface (4, Interesting)

shortscruffydave (638529) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530271)

I guess voice control for apps is one angle, but is that technology good enough, and will the hardware here be powerful enough to do it support it reliably?

Re:interface, interface, interface (1)

LamerX (164968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530288)

Freevo is a good start. It uses a very straight forward interface that has the most common functions that you are planning on using. Since it's open source, I'm sure you could modify it to have the menu options and programs you want to run on it. Its large font makes it easy to read on TVs and small LCDs alike.

http://freevo.sourceforge.net/

Sorry, I do think that Freevo lacks the MSN icon, so you may be out of luck there... :) better stick with winblows :)

Re:interface, interface, interface (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530335)

dude, you've just announce yourself as a window$ user on slashdot

Re:interface, interface, interface (2, Funny)

cubicledrone (681598) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530346)

this is all very well but is a pc what you want in your car? keyboard, mouse, tiny icons due to running on a small LCD? unless someone's released "Windows XP Car edition" or similar I really don't see this as all that useful

Let me guess: You're the guy who sits in meetings and says "who would want to buy that?"

Re:interface, interface, interface (1)

gfody (514448) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530360)

you dont have to make an operating system for a computer in your car to have a nice ui. just make a windows (or linux) program that runs fullscreen and design the ui yourself

Why you would a PC in your car. (4, Informative)

Surak (18578) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530394)

With wireless networking and PalmVNC, you could operate the in-dash computer via a PalmOS-compatible PDA. Imagine that this thing could be very powerful as a combination MP3 jukebox, satnav device, PVR -- toss a 7" monitor in the back seat of a SUV or minivan, which some manufacturers are starting to add in their luxury models, great for the kids -- and with USB ports, the thing could be useful to store files for your digital camera. Sure, some of these things (satnav/gps, MP3 playing) can be done by a PDA, but you're limited by the memory you can stuff into the PDA. A full PC, OTOH, can have hundreds of megs of RAM and hundreds of gigabytes of hard drive storage. That, and the fact that you can combine all those devices into one is going to save you space.

That's why you'd want a PC in your car.

Nice, but... (4, Insightful)

shadwwulf (145057) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530220)

...I see shortcomings.

Personally the Pentuim 266MMX is a little underpowered unless you just want an MP3 player or something along those lines. I personally think that taking the approach of what many high end car audio systems do(e.g. put the UI in the dash and the major hardware in the trunk) would have been a better approach. Having the audio, PCMCIA and the like in dash is great, but having a nice long(and heavily shielded) cable running to the trunk would be more effective because the space constraints aren't as big of a deal.

Just my $0.02

For more computing power... (0)

dillkvast (657246) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530345)

... one migt want to look at the BriQ [terrasoftsolutions.com] instead. Not DIN formfactor but you should be able to fit it in a dashboard.

Re:Nice, but... (1)

Sc00ter (99550) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530380)

What are you looking to do? I have a PII266Mhz laptop that I use for everything. Wink2k, Office, Winamp, Netstumbler and dual boot into Gentoo and use Gimp, Evolution, Gaim. It's not super speedy but it's plenty fast for normal use.

Re:Nice, but... (3, Interesting)

itsjpr (16533) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530398)

I don't know...a 266MHz Intel with MMX...that sounds a lot like my personal computer here at home. It's the only machine we have and it works just fine. Sure it's a little slow at times but it's perfectly adequate.

We always run two X sessions so my wife and I can fast user switch between our desktops. It serves as our stereo, and I run our family web site and a couple of low volume mailing lists off it. It only gets sluggish when I have way too many windows open.

Thinking of things a little differently, a slight delay while driving can be an advantage. You need the thing to not out pace you while you have hundreds of other tasks to perform, like driving.

Re:Nice, but... (2, Interesting)

jonbrewer (11894) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530442)

but having a nice long(and heavily shielded) cable running to the trunk would be more effective because the space constraints aren't as big of a deal.

With processors so cheap, just have a separate machine up front running VNC or similar, and put something real in the back to do the work. In fact, aren't there such displays commercially available? As in flat-panels with a processor, video card, and etherent jack?

Really the cost of installing a high-quality shielded cable to move user input back and video to the front is likely much greater than the cost of having two PCs...

Buy it now!! (2, Funny)

indiancowboy (637150) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530221)

Early bird prices - Free portable computer that fits into hospital beds!!

Car computer (2, Funny)

bobthemuse (574400) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530223)

I seem to remember some software being developed which emulated the OBD II car computer. It would be very interesting to load that software, this product, and a DA card to allow manual adjustments.

OTOH, some idiot will probably do this on an unstable OS, brining new meaning to 'system crash'.

Re:Car computer (2, Interesting)

MatthewB79 (47875) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530364)

Actually, you do not need to emulate the OBD computer in order to make changes. As long as this in-dash PC has a COM port software like this [ross-tech.com] for VW and Audi vehicles can make any OBD/VAG controlled adjustments and record engine data in real time. Of course you can do this with a laptop but I can see the usefulness for those interested in performance tuning or adding another layer of security. Maybe like having to login to your car in order to start the engine.

Hmm. (5, Insightful)

sekzscripting (687192) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530236)

Is it just me, or does the damn thing look ugly? I personally wouldn't sport that 'thing' in my car.

Re:Hmm. (1)

gnu-sucks (561404) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530254)

well yes, it does, as it completely lacks an interface. This is the sort of rig you would install under the dash, or in the trunk.

Wouldn't it have been neat if it actually looked like a high-end receiver?

Not A Good Idea (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530256)

I ride a motorcycle. The three times that I have come closest to death in my life were on the freeway when someone with a cell phone held to their left ear did not bother to do a head check before moving left into me. I started coding on PDP-8s and Alpha Micros and I'm all for CPUs everywhere, but I don't like this thing one bit.

If you wouldn't use it while riding a motorcycle, paying attention to the road and to other things around you with both hands on the steering mechanism, then you shouldn't use it in a car.

Re:Not A Good Idea (1)

panurge (573432) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530291)

Totally agree. In fact, what keeps me from going back to a motorcycle is the appalling driving of cell phone users. I'm convinced some of them actually have a permanent set in their arms and a nokia-shaped depression in their faces. They also have IQs around room temperature. It's mostly dumbos like this that will USE in-car computers when moving because they are insufficiently intelligent to assess risk.

It's sad really - dinosaur evolution - ever bigger tin boxes to protect us from the morons that are allowed to drive around in big tin boxes.

Re:Not A Good Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530347)

That and people driving SUVs. Someone please tell me what it is about SUVs that make the driver lose all driving ability the minute the sit behind the wheel? I swear, I get cut off more times by people in an SUV that didn't check than all other types of vehicle combined. Maybe that's because they're all over the place, I don't know. I just wish I knew why everybody and their mother feel the need to own one of those gas guzzling things. Do they really need to lug that much stuff around all the time, or are they just trying to show off their massive amounts of cash? And don't even get me started on people driving SUVs while using a cell phone...

Re:Not A Good Idea (1)

Golthar (162696) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530326)

Yes, definetly.
Here in Europe you are forbidden to call while driving, unless you use a carkit (handsfree)

I can't imagine using a computer while driving and probably the computer should have an extra mode for while driving.
For example, you can't do anything that takes concentration on the computer (screen goes off and you can only change mp3's with a steeringwheel control, like car stereo)

... not even one bit good for my health (1)

kaamos (647337) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530482)

Yeah, The mp3's are great and all, so is the gps, but as the parent poster mentioned, this is dangerous for small vehicles. I can already see the car passing me then sharply turning right when the in-dash gps told him to, and just cutting my life short. I have already had a close call with a lady, driving a Lexus who just watched the icons on her gps, thinking it was a radar and it would tell her where the cars around here were. Now a gps that is user controled is even worse for me. No way I can abide that, even though I am a geek that likes computers everywhere. Everywhere, that is, that they can be used without being a danger to others.

:please (-1, Troll)

SkunkPussy (85271) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530267)

"If you buy this thing, use it safely. None of us want auto PC users to end up in the same category as annoying cell phone users."

F U C K O F F you dweeb

I know I speak for everyone when I say.. (3, Funny)

debilo (612116) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530268)

In-Dash DIN-form-factor Car PC

...huh?

Computer in the dash... (3, Insightful)

QuasiRob (134012) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530270)

Its all very well having that lil DIN sized box in your dashbooard, and having all those features to hand but its absolutly useless cos theres no way to control it. Lets face it, the main reason you want a computer in the car is to play music or as some kind of satnav device. With no display or input devices it cant be used for that, and every car I've owned only had room for one DIN device. So where do you put the control/display devices?

I know they have a link to their little 7 inch monitors in the article, but again, where do you really put that? Cant go on the dash, its too big. Cant go on the front of the dash cos it would covers the air vents and the PC its connected to. And its a bit too easy for thieves to see.

I like that the computer is small and designed for use in a car, but its better off in the glovebox or under the dash, with a connection to a touchscreen flat panel in the DIN slot.

The best car computer/mp3 player I've seen so far is the Empeg player ( http://www.empeg.com ) but they stopped making them.

Re:Computer in the dash... (1)

stiggle (649614) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530309)

I have an Empeg and people have linked in GPS and Palms for incar navigation and such.

The best thing about it is setting up the playlists so you con't need to look and fiddle with it while driving.

A CP1000 is nice, but you don't need half the extra features. Plus, as its only a Pentium 266MMX and 2Mb video, it won't be that good for playing videos back. You'd be better with their XENARC MP-SC1 which is slightly bigger, but does a whole lot more.

ESS Sound Chip? (4, Interesting)

LamerX (164968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530272)

Since this unit looks to be replacing a head unit stereo, why would you want to use a sound processor like an ESS? I would think that an emphasis on sound quality would be the ultimate thing in a stereo situation. I know that the cabin of your car isn't the most efficent place for quality of sound, but you can still tell a lot. I'm no expert on sound chips, but IMHO, ESS isn't the top choice for high qulity sound.

Re:ESS Sound Chip? (1)

dattaway (3088) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530466)

You sound like one of those audiophiles. The ESS has a 16 bit ADC/DAC pair with sampling rates which exceed your hearing range. With this low harmonic distortion, the ESS should meet your bid requirements. Unless your hearing is more exceptional than mine, I don't know what you are complaining about.

Poorly designed power supply (5, Informative)

ortholattice (175065) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530290)

The input rating of 10V to 26V may cause the computer to die when starting the engine, so don't depend on this to run anything critical. Do these guys even understand car battery specs? A good design should work at least down to 7.2V [familycar.com] : "Today's batteries are rated in cold cranking amps. This represents the current that the battery can produce for 30 seconds at 0 degrees before the battery voltage drops below 7.2 volts." Better designs such as the power supply in this ECU device [wolfems.com.au] will work down to 6.5V.

This design error seems to be common. Out of three laptop 12V adapters I've purchased, only one worked with an old battery (that was still good enough to start the car). The worst is my most recent Xtend PowerXtender, which is rated 12-16V and often refuses to work unless the engine is running - very annoying when I'm waiting in the car and want to use my laptop.

Re:Poorly designed power supply (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530342)

I think maybe it's time you bought a new battery...

Re:Poorly designed power supply (1)

dattaway (3088) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530485)

A good overkill solution would be a diode and a small UPS/exit sign battery. This would make a simple, yet effective UPS unit for the car. No inversion necessary!

Hmm. (1, Redundant)

nepheles (642829) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530293)

This possibly goes without saying, but it is none too difficult to create a far better solution, for considerably less money, by buying components individually. Mini-itx.com is a good place to start. $1,200 for this is, frankly, too expensive.

Page not done by a sales expert (5, Funny)

fireman sam (662213) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530301)

Quote: "We are currently working on a version with faster processor speed. Please check back with us in a couple of months for more information."

In other words: Don't buy our current product. We will use the non-existant money we make from not selling version one to make version two.

Didn't other companies go broke due to similar statements?

Stuff it. What I want is... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530304)

... I want my car hifi to have a simple, cheap, something like "Bluetooth Audio" receiver.. and for something like an iPod with a digital wireless audio SENDER... so whenever my portable is in the car I can hear it over the speakers. Not much to ask, is it? The tech is already here and cheap. Everything that plays back audio should have a transmitter, and everything plays music should have a receiver. Just think of the possibilities. PC in your den plays music, can listen in the living room. TV/VCR/DVD plays something.. listen (and watch) in stereo in your bedroom. Oh yes... video too... :o)
Come on big manufacturers, catch up .. it's 2003 already!

iPod output through your speakers (1)

Lord Grey (463613) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530502)

This [apple.com] is one of the coolest accessories I've seen for the iPod. Maybe not as geeky-cool as Bluetooth, but it works today, with existing technology.

looks great but.. (4, Funny)

gfody (514448) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530306)

why didn't they use a slotfeed dvd drive? unless... maybe the cd tray really does double as a cupholder

in-dash PC (2, Interesting)

warrenmcallister (692389) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530307)

IMHO, the only equipment required in a (real) car is a rev-counter and an oil-pressure gauge :-)

Re:in-dash PC (1)

1s44c (552956) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530437)

the only equipment required in a (real) car is a rev-counter and an oil-pressure gauge


Wuss. Only deaf people need a rev counter.

I normally change up gear between high piched whine and very high piched whine.

questionable design (1, Funny)

acxr is wasted (653126) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530318)

Hrm... Doesn't the design seem sooo PC case-ish?

It looks like there should be a perfectly scale working model crt monitor, all boxy and grey sitting up on the dashboard, with a tiny, loud IBM ps2 keyboard.
Adorable, really...

cpu (1)

SKPhoton (683703) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530327)

sure, the cpu is only a 266mhz pentium. but its not exactly a mind-boggling task to simply swap out the processor. even the video cripples this device. 2MB? i guess it wouldnt be more useful than an mp3 or divx box. for that much money though, i'd rather just burn a bunch of cds to toss into the cd player. i'm assuming the video out simply plugs into the video screens in the back of headrests and such. note: it does come with IrDA so kids would be able to pause, rewind, etc if they were watching movies. it's called a "carputer". all they need next is to attach some sort of fishing radar and they'd be all set!

Well actually (1)

wa5ter (628478) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530351)

If you buy this thing, use it safely. None of us want auto PC users to end up in the same category as annoying cell phone users.

Actually, I was hoping that no-one would end up dead, geek or otherwise. This thing could turn out to be a pretty dumb idea.

Beige (4, Insightful)

martingunnarsson (590268) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530356)

Why do they make these things beige/white?? I mean, how many cars have a white dashboard? Perhaps the computers come with front panels in different colors?

Reminds me of the empeg (1)

popeydotcom (114724) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530357)

In car MP3 player. That was basically a pc which was removable. It had a docking station which you used to squirt your MP3s onto it with.

Empeg Products Page [empeg.org]

Dead hard drive? (4, Insightful)

juniorkindergarten (662101) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530367)

Maybe I'm being a bit paranoid, but wouldn't the first nasty pot hole/speed bump kill the hard drive?
Have hard drive manufacturers made notebook drives able to withstand the extreme g forces that could be encountered in a vehicle on a day to day basis? Does someone have real experience/data having a hard drive last for any length of time in a car?

Re:Dead hard drive? (1)

Wing_Zero (692394) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530446)

I would think that they would have the decent sense to cushion the drive. that being said, I hope they didn't bury the drive under 5 diffrent boards needing critical surgery to replace.

Re:Dead hard drive? (2, Informative)

TheTimoo (658067) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530454)

Seagate Model St3I 44A (at least 10 years old. dunno how big, it made funny sounds when I connected it) :

Product warranty will be void if label or top cover is removed or if the drive experiences shocks in excess of 75 G's.

should be pretty safe, or else your driving style needs serious improvement *g*
OTOH maybe I just don't know about car physics

Traffic information: (5, Funny)

Spam.B.gone (682244) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530375)

On the A2 there is a 12 kilometer beowulf cluster.

Re:Traffic information: (1)

mark2003 (632879) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530492)

I think that cluster crashed a few weeks ago just outside of Bluewater...

What's the PCMCIA for? (1)

yelohbird (658476) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530386)

From the article:
This PC even has two PCMCIA sockets good for wireless communication
I'd be impressed if a moving car can hold a signal on 802.11x networks. And if it's meant to be for parked car office-ing, then why not just pull out the laptop or the PEG-UX50 [slashdot.org] and surf away?

But where's the radio? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6530436)

ok, we are spending $1200 for this thing, and i think it's pretty neat, but sometimes, I just want to listen to my radio.

Video input ? (0)

sap.de (557490) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530450)

I had already started to look at building something like this to put in the car somewhere to record video, front and rear so that I could prove / disprove whatever the police were complaining about.
I did see some embeded Linux PC104 boards with PC Card expansion in Linux Journal too : gps or celular modem ? You can call your car and find out where it is !

OLED (5, Interesting)

AmiMoJo (196126) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530514)

Combined with OLED (organic light emitting diode) technology, this could be a killer app. OLED displays are a bit like LCD displays, except that they emit light rather than reflect it. They can be transparent in the areas they are not lit, and come in green and orange currently.

Imagine a head up display for your radio/cd/mp3... you could even move your speed- and odo-meters to the windscreen. Thinking further ahead, augmented reality displays will eventually be possible. I'd like to see a kind of mini-radar, that shows other cars near yours (a bit like on Daytona USA, the Sega arcade game). No more blind spots etc.

MoJo

Carmacs (2, Funny)

RealBeanDip (26604) | more than 11 years ago | (#6530515)

"If you buy this thing, use it safely. None of us want auto PC users to end up in the same category as annoying cell phone users."

How does one do a C-x-f safely while driving anyway?
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