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New Apple Column on Ars Technica

pudge posted more than 11 years ago | from the yet-another-apple-pundit dept.

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Steve Cowan writes "A new Apple column by Eric Bangeman, called Mac.Ars, debuted at Ars Technica. The first edition is an insightful, unbiased take on the current state of Apple and its offerings. The author discusses Panther, the G5, consumer hardware offerings, Premiere, Microsoft Office, the 'Switch' campaign, the effects of Apple's relatively recent purchases of products like Logic and Shake, Apple's position in the server market, and lots more." What's the fun of being a Mac pundit unless you are biased?

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Abra Cadabra! First Post! (-1)

sithkhan (536425) | more than 11 years ago | (#6584016)

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SCO Fuckheads (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6584400)

If the SCO fuckwads get their way and are able to bring Linux down with them in their inevitable plunge to bankruptcy (both financial and moral), at least I can still go buy a Macintosh and run a personal Unix system. It's waayyy overpriced, and the Mac lemmings are waaayyy annoying (and scary), but at least I've got a back up plan.

don't forget linux (3, Insightful)

iksowrak (208577) | more than 11 years ago | (#6584083)

Ars also launched an Linux.Ars column shortly after Mac.Ars -- not too shabby either.

bias? (3, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 11 years ago | (#6584132)

> What's the fun of being a Mac pundit unless you are biased?

What, you mean like Slashdot's bias for anything Linux or Open Source? :)

Re:bias? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6592016)

Sounds more insightful than funny to me.

Re:bias? (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 10 years ago | (#6595467)

I would argue, quite seriously, the the /. crowd is biased in favor of what works. We're not biased against Microsoft because it's Microsoft, or in favor of Linux because we think penguins are cute. We're biased toward products and services that we feel provide good value for the money and/or work required to use them, and against products and services that are overpriced (in either money or time) for whatever value they may provide.

This is why /. is very enthusiastic about both Linux and OS X. They provide completely different approaches to What An OS Should Be: Linux is cheap (often free) and very DIY, while OS X is expensive (especially if you count the cost of having to buy a new Mac to run it on) and very pre-packaged and relatively difficult to modify. But both of them work, and work well, and provide platforms that are amazingly capable relative to the investment the user must make in them. Honestly, if Microsoft ever comes out with a product that does the same, we'll probably embrace it too. So far, that hasn't happened, and I see no reason to expect that it will.

Re:bias? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6597550)

OS X? More difficult to modify than Linux?

surely you jest.

No need to be conciliatory on the Apple board, mate. Linux just sucks. It's more broken than even Microsoft, and the people who run it like it that way. Fuck 'em, and especially fuck the people who say "Wow, OS X, I used to hate Mac but now I'm looking into it!," and never switch, while still secretly booting into WinME to play games.

If you want a computer that works, and you don't want to have to suck Gates' cock, take your lumps and spend some real money. It's called a Mac, and you'll never regret it.

Where's the beef? (4, Insightful)

amichalo (132545) | more than 11 years ago | (#6584188)

I dont' understand the reason for writing that article - it was a big introduction with no keynote speaker.

I got from that article that the writer:
- Intends to create a column for in depth technical review where other rumor sites fall short.
- Feels the Switch campaign didn't work out for Apple because the consumer line can't be customized
- Feels Apple's software development strategy yeilds great results but might present a probelm if Apple is the only one developing for the market
- Feels there is no market for the Xserve but there is a market for Panther Server (...though there is no market for server grade hardware?)

SO WHERE IS THE IN DEPTH TECHNICAL REVIEW? The author basically did a feature review. There was nothing new - a few opinions about consumer's desire to have faster graphics card - but no in depth anything.

I sure am glad I have apple.slashdot.org and macrumors.com to read because Ars' Apple column won't be on my list again.

Re:Where's the beef? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6584280)

ECC memory - Servers _NEED_ it... (google is your friend)

No ECC == no server

Re:Where's the beef? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6584693)

Xserve is a cluster node. ECC memory is a waste of money in a cluster.

Re:Where's the beef? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6586310)

I hope nobodys life depends on the information it's processing or it isn't mission critical?

Re:Where's the beef? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6587187)

Yup. That's exactly right. Nobody's life depends on it, and it isn't mission critical. That's what "cluster node" means.

Glad to see you're catching on.

Re:Where's the beef? (0, Troll)

BitGeek (19506) | more than 11 years ago | (#6585929)



If you didn't buy cheap ass POS PCs in the first place you wouldn't be worried about memory failures....

Re:Where's the beef? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6586304)

Good one!

(Ignorant or fanboy?)

The "Bit" obviously means "very very little bit"....

Re:Where's the beef? (4, Interesting)

WatertonMan (550706) | more than 11 years ago | (#6584606)

Did anyone else notice that all the columns seemed to be summaries of active discussions in the Ars Forums? Not that this is a bad thing, but there was strong sense of deja vu to the whole thing.

I was kind of hoping for more along the lines of Hannibal's amazing 970 guess work or the insightful analysis of the OSX Finder. There are plenty of other things open to analysis.

I'm hoping for more than Forum summaries that aren't too terribly novel or informative.

How about an analysis of the StartUpItems method of startup scripts and the still present bug that stop commands don't work at shutdown! How about an analysis of the upcoming UI in Panther along the lines of the guesswork Hannibal did to the 970 and was done for OSX as a review? I can name a half dozen such things that I could have written.

Re:Where's the beef? (2, Insightful)

Dr Reducto (665121) | more than 11 years ago | (#6585188)

I enjoyed it, however, I am not on ArsTechnica's forums, and don't have the time to stay current with another message board right now. I think it is a good summary of where Apple is now, and what they might need to do differently in the future, or what the consequences of some of their actions might be. A lot of the stuff I've read on ArsTechnica was way to technical, and didn't really get to the point. Maybe I was reading the wrong articles, but I believe this to be a nice little concise summary.

Re:Where's the beef? (2, Funny)

tackaberry (694121) | more than 11 years ago | (#6588640)

The could have called it Light.Ars instead.

That being said, while it didn't tell me anything I didn't know from reading elsewhere; it did still keep me from being productive on a Friday :)

Re:Where's the beef? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6586944)

Certainly not in your head or pants. It's an introduction to a new section moron.

Re:Where's the beef? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6590415)

Many of the .Ars columns are just that, brief overviews of the state of things in the given industry that the article discusses.

Ars does wonderful blackpapers and reviews, but they bend more towards news and its analysis.

Apple isn't offering Panther or G5's yet. (1, Interesting)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 11 years ago | (#6584686)

However they will be shortly. Until I can run to the local (dallas, tx) Apple store and pick up a G5 running Panther, it is a future offering.

Just come out with the new powerbooks already. I'm probably just going to buy a notebook from PowerNotebooks [powernotebooks.com] instead since I've already got a 900MHz iBook and a G4 Tower. I was looking forward to a new powerbook. Oh well...

Re:Apple isn't offering Panther or G5's yet. (1)

amichalo (132545) | more than 11 years ago | (#6585148)

So you aren't really in the market for an Appel anyway.

If a couple months wait is more important that selecting the hardware and software platform you use for the life of the device, then an Apple laptop just isn't for you (no matter what you SAY you have already purchased).

Right (1)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 11 years ago | (#6586929)

Go to macrumors.com and read "Any day now" for the 15" Powerbooks for 9 months. Have the cash in hand and just wait. I'd actually prefer a Ti one with one exception, chipping paint. Plus I just bought a 900MHz iBook for my wife (which she doesn't use at all so it's mine now!!!). I want 1 laptop that is high end and wide screen (this makes coding much easier as my long ass lines tend to fit better). I'd prefer a 15.2" from Apple but the 17" Sager one is nice too (plus I won't have to wait a year or longer for decent games to come out, should I decide to play instead of work).

So I am in the market for an Apple, but wait a few months is bullshit. Even if they announce them next week, they won't be in stores for 3 months.

Follow apple for a while before you make statements that are inaccurate about their releases. Not to mention they give no information in the way of a roadmap (with the exception of announcing a product then not delivering for 3-6 months).

Re:Right (1, Troll)

Mikey-San (582838) | more than 11 years ago | (#6587278)

So let's see what's up here.

A rumour site keeps stringing you along . . .

You get angry at Apple for not releasing unannounced products . . .

Yeah, go buy a Windows machine.

Re:Right (-1, Flamebait)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 11 years ago | (#6587437)

The rumor sites don't string along they guess based on previous releases a target date. Since apple doesn't give ANY roadmap that is all you can use as a decision making tool.

I'm not angry at apple for "not releasing unannounced products" (I'm not sure what that means because how could they release something unannounced?) I want apple to provide a roadmap and release hardware/software according to that schedule.

Thank you for your permission, I will buy a Windows based machine. Actually it's an x86 based machine which I will run windows and linux.

You are the exact reason people think Apple Fan(atics) are assholes. You say "If you don't like what Apple is doing, you're wrong. Go buy a windows machine." In the real world companies try to cater to their customers. There are several reasons apple is at 3% and linux has come further in a short amount of time. Arrogant Apple Assholes, no ability to plan based on information from Apple, over priced hardware, bad market decisions.

Re:Right (4, Insightful)

Mikey-San (582838) | more than 11 years ago | (#6587614)

No, you take as canon what some idiotic Mac zealot rumor site says. Macrumors, Macosrumors, Spymac, they're all uninformed and seem to say whatever they want to get more readers.

Shit, Macosrumors was going on and on about the "G5 production progress" for at least a year before they were actually announced. Did they get TEH SCOOP? No. The G5 was obvious, but it turned out not to be soon. If Apple had called it something else, MOSR would have just said that the production name had changed at the end of the testing cycle blah blah blah.

It's all bunk. Don't get caught up in it or you'll just get disappointed like so many other Mac users. And you have. Of /course/ Apple is working on a 15" PowerBook G4 revision. If they could have revved it with the 12" and 17" release, I'm sure they would have.

If there's ONE thing I'd like to bring over from Windowsland, it's how no one gets really swept up in the rumour mill and either let down, pissed off, or both.

Re:Right (4, Insightful)

HiredMan (5546) | more than 11 years ago | (#6587707)

Arrogant Apple Assholes, no ability to plan based on information from Apple, over priced hardware, bad market decisions.

Dude, if you think an x86 box serves your needs better then buy one - but what the f**k does it matter who else owns Apple boxes? You don't want to buy a computer because the other people who own them strike you as Arrogant Assholes? So if you think that a Makita or DeWalt was the best woodworking tool for you - but every one you knew who owned one of those sets was an ass you buy a Craftsman instead?

If you don't like Apple's secrecy that's a valid point. Their hardware mark-ups are public information - if you think wanting to make ~25% profit on your products is too greedy then that's a valid point as well but in the end that doesn't effect the product you actually buy.

It's a tool, it's an appliance, buy what suits you needs. It's not like you give other Apple owners your email address or have to invite them to your home - and other then the secret meetings every week in the - but I've said too much already...

Lighten up - it's a computer not a religion,

=TKK

Re:Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6598594)

And you are the reason people think Sooner Fan(atics) are assholes.

Re:Right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6588762)

Me too. I had cash in hand. But I got tired of waiting. I had an ancient desktop Mac and a 1.5 yr old desktop PC. I had no strong ties to either. I waited, and waited, and waited. Finally, I decided to crap or get off the pot...the PC laptop won. Maybe if Apple would give a roadmap or something. (yes I know of the Osbourne computer fiasco)...

I'm not about to spend a premium amount of money on a computer with dated hardware. I don't care how cool the OS is. And I REALLY wanted a Mac, but I just couldn't justify it.

Re:Right (1)

amichalo (132545) | more than 11 years ago | (#6592174)

So why don't you buy the 17" PowerBook? You say it has what you want correct? I have a PowerBook G4 and I have never had chipping paint issue. Mine was the first generation 400mhz which is still plenty applicable two years latter running Jaguar. I anticipate replacing it with a new laptop in another two years at teh earliest. Its just so relevant still.

Come on, if you know how it goes - as you said if they release it today it won't be available for 3 months - then why wait? Is there a technology you need that the current ones don't offer or are you just warry of buying last year's model? I am not trying to get in a fight, I want to understand your objection.

Re:Apple isn't offering Panther or G5's yet. (2, Informative)

gooru (592512) | more than 11 years ago | (#6587697)

Our Apple rep is claiming that there will be a revision of the 15" PowerBook in September. A long time to wait, but it'll go nicely with the release of Panther, which has been an amazing preview release thus far.

Re:Apple isn't offering Panther or G5's yet. (1)

Halloween Jack (182035) | about 11 years ago | (#6634435)

From PowerNotebooks' site:


We live to serve Him, and you!


That would make for the Best... "Switch" ad... ever.

Dear Apple: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6584964)

Dear Apple:

I bought an Apple computer because of its native support for teledildonics. I bought a USB FUFME [onzin.nl] and MacOS immediately recognized it and installed drivers instantly! As a gay Catholic priest who often can't be at the altar all the time, you can understand how the ability to have sex with children whilst on the airplane with my Powerbook and wireless internet service is a lifesaver.

I just have a single question, will Apple be releasing a firewire version of the FUFME anytime soon?


With much gayness,

Father Michael "Arminass" Sims

Who's biased? (4, Insightful)

Mikey-San (582838) | more than 11 years ago | (#6585307)

Ignoring the heavy anti-MS bias here on Slashdot, why the fuck was Daring Fireball mentioned? Looks like a cheap and perhaps biased shot to me.

http://daringfireball.net/2003/03/antiantialiasi ng .html
http://daringfireball.net/2003/07/grab_html _script _for_bbedit_redux.html
http://daringfireball.net/ 2003/01/safari.html
http://daringfireball.net/200 3/05/interface_detail s_itunes_vs_safari.html
http://daringfireball.net /2003/01/scripting_safari _urls.html

If those article gives you an idea of what you'll find there sometimes, you'll see that the stuff DF.net posts isn't just rabid OMG APPLE RULZ!!!1 kind of stuff.

It's a Mac user talking about Macs and Mac stuff. That doesn't make it biased on that basis alone.

Can we start moderating comments in story summaries? Please?

Exactly. (4, Insightful)

Xenex (97062) | more than 11 years ago | (#6585452)

Daring Fireball offers well-written opinions about Apple-related topics. It would have been nice of pudge to provide a few links to supposedly biased pieces that Gruber has written, instead ignorantly pointing at the front page.

Of course, it can be difficult linking to things that don't exist...

Re:Who's biased? (1)

cioxx (456323) | more than 11 years ago | (#6589184)

Daring Fireball is an excellent and very informative blog.

Whoever submitted the article calling John G. (heh, Memento!) a biased person, just because he covers macs, should go purchase himself a fucking clue.

It was pudge. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6594666)

It wasn't the submitter, it was pudge that added that comment. Note how it's not italics.

Yes, because ArsTechnica are *never* biased... (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6585551)

Like their operating system poll [arstechnica.com] :
"Now, a number of people were pretty amazed to see such high OS X numbers, and some even alleged that the ballot box was being stuffed--either from a third-party site encouraging Mac votes, or by "multiple voters" or some other evil scheme meant to over-represent what must surely be a dying breed *cough*."
The moment many of their readers claim to use OS X, and they suddenly accuse Mac users and other Macintosh sites of ballot-stuffing!

So they follow it up with data from their server logs:
Windows - 66.42%
(unknown) - 15.06%
Macintosh - 11.46%
Linux - 6.49%
And potentially, a huge chunk of that unknown value are Mac. They even state that themselves:
"I suspect that a significant number of the "unknowns" are either Mac users, or Opera users on either platform."
So they begin doubting the poll results from their readers, so they check their server logs. They're then shocked to find that there really is (potentially) over 30 percent of their readers using Macs.

They then pull out their server's browser logs, which show that Safari is the second most used browser by their readers (unsurprisingly trailing Internet Explorer).
"I do think it's pretty interesting that, when analyzed as combos of OS and browser, the next biggest combo after IE on Windows 2000 and XP is MacOS X and Safari, even ahead of Mozilla on Windows, or on the Mac."

It took all this trawling though their logs, and yet they still wouldn't admit that the poll's results could be somewhat accurate. Perhaps this new section is Ars actually admitting, in a very backwards way, that many of their reader do actually use Macs. Not they they want to admit it.

Say what you will about other sites [daringfireball.net] , but claiming that ArsTechnica are unbiased is a joke.

Re:Yes, because ArsTechnica are *never* biased... (3, Insightful)

1in10 (250285) | more than 11 years ago | (#6585573)

Take a course in reading comprehension. They said some people (ie Ars Technica readers) accused the Mac users of ballot stuffing, not that they (ie Ars Technica writers) accuse them.

Ars Technica IS Biased... (1, Insightful)

BitGeek (19506) | more than 11 years ago | (#6585924)


Every article there on anything remotely Mac has been biased.... Ars Technica is more anti-Mac than Slashdot is.

The "We're not biased" attitude (And tone of voice) should not fool anyone... after all, how many people here think CNN and Fox news are totally objective? (They're both biased, just in different ways.)

Ars Technica excells at selling FUD wrapped around plausible sounding and "technical" analysis. Its one of those things that unless you are proficient in the technical area you won't recognize to be FUD.... which is why they are so successful with the slashdot crowd (which doesn't seem to be very engineering oriented.)

Course, as with most people their definition of "biased" is "anything I don't agree with" (and so this article will likely be moderated troll).... but the reality is there is an objective reality.

Its just that if you're not proficient in the reality of the situation, its difficult to detect bias.

And if you confuse an objective tone for authortiative knowledge, you're open to easy manipulation.

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (5, Informative)

Senjaz (188917) | more than 11 years ago | (#6586292)

Ars Technica excells at selling FUD wrapped around plausible sounding and "technical" analysis.

Considering their excellent articles on the G4, G4e, and now the 970. And also on the Mac OS X finder I think many people would disagree with you.

Its one of those things that unless you are proficient in the technical area you won't recognize to be FUD
You should check who actually writes the articles and hangs out on the forums there and what they do.

Many of them are engineers, there are those involved in processor design and also programmers and not small fry either. (Check out the about box in Photoshop then look for Chris Cox at ars he can tell you a thing or two about optimising stuff for altivec and the bandwidth constraints of the old PowerMacs), then take the time catch up on the Perpetual CPU thread GPUL and look at all the analysis done that when Hannibal was able to actually speak to IBM turned out to be almost spot on

Yeah the signal to noise ratio gets pretty low sometimes but it's pretty much self policing and without a moderation system too. There is no doubting that Ars tends to attract a more knowledgable person.

As for being biased Ars, like Slashdot is a hang out for technical peeps, and the old Mac OS didn't register on their radar except as perhaps a thing to make fun of. Things change, the Mac is now interesting to geeks. It may not do what we all want but you can't deny it has an attraction to pull it to pieces and see what makes it tick.

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (3, Insightful)

majorflaw (618333) | more than 11 years ago | (#6586875)

"Ars Technica is more anti-Mac than Slashdot is."

As a loyal Mac user and a regular /. reader, I have not found an anti-Mac bias here. While /. seems to be more concerned with OSS and Linux (somebody has to do it), coverage of Apple has been taken seriously. The reports of Jobs' "delivery" of Panther and the G-5's were near orgasmic. I have never been ridiculed here for my choice to use the Mac platform, and I would ask the above poster to provide examples to support his/her claim of an anti-Mac bias. Other than your suggestion of bias, I've always felt welcome at / .

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6602711)

"I have not found an anti-Mac bias here."

That's because you're relatively new here.

Only in the last 18-24 months have Macs been treated with any respect on Slashdot. Before then they were mocked, and with good reason; Mac OS pre-OS X was a horrid operating system with a nice UI. Now the Mac has OS X: a great operating system with a great UI.

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (1)

majorflaw (618333) | about 11 years ago | (#6603582)

I can't comment on what was written on /. before I arrived, but I do disagree with your description of Mac pre-O/S X as a "horrid operating system." I was forced to use Win98SE at work and looked forward to coming home and using my iMac running 9.x. The dramatic difference I experienced using a computer which actually worked for me, and worked reliably and without problems, sold me on the Apple product. Even though I now recognize that O/S X is a better product, I resisted moving up for quite a while. O/S 9x wasn't broken, and I saw no immediate need to replace it.

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6604491)

"I was forced to use Win98SE at work and looked forward to coming home and using my iMac running 9.x."

It's a shame about your employer's operating system of choice at that time then. Windows NT 4.0, and later Windows 2000, were pretty rock solid as desktop operating systems, at least compared to the so-called 'classic' Mac OS.

Of course, I'd much prefer OS X to an NT-class version of Windows...

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (1)

ProfKyne (149971) | about 11 years ago | (#6609114)

As a loyal Mac user and a regular /. reader, I have not found an anti-Mac bias here. While /. seems to be more concerned with OSS and Linux (somebody has to do it), coverage of Apple has been taken seriously.

I suspect you have your comment filter set to 3 or higher. There's a lot of anti-Mac statements, but they're always from trolls or people who obviously have no first-hand experience, and never get modded up.

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (1)

majorflaw (618333) | about 11 years ago | (#6612613)

Actually, I have my comment filter set to -1. You never know where you'll find an interesting post. I have no difficulty distinguishing between flames, trolls, etc. and intelligent comment. And I *still* haven't seen an anti-Mac bias at /.

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (1)

ProfKyne (149971) | about 11 years ago | (#6615504)

You have much higher tolerance than I do!

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (1)

majorflaw (618333) | about 11 years ago | (#6623853)

At -1, I find an anti civil discourse bias, an anti education bias, and an anti acting like grown ups bias. But no particular anti Mac bias.

Re:Ars Technica IS Biased... (2, Interesting)

cbuskirk (99904) | more than 11 years ago | (#6589528)

This particular artical seemed biased to my but do not judge Ars Technica as a whole. It consistantly had the BEST coverage of OSX. I did not use OSX as my primary OS until about a year and a half after it came out. But I hit the ground running, because 2 years prior I had read Ars's in depth analysis on all of the Developer Previews and I practically knew the OS Inside and out. Thier 10.2 analisys was spot on as well.

can't figure it out (4, Insightful)

ProfKyne (149971) | more than 11 years ago | (#6588107)

What's the fun of being a Mac pundit unless you are biased?

Pudge, was that a shot, or just good-natured ribbing? Gruber writes the best-written (and yes, most opinionated) columns on Apple-related topics anywhere, on the web or in print. In other words, it's not just a diary with a few sentences about whatever came into his head on the way to work that day, nor is it hype-mongering drivel [macworld.com] about Apple, but rather they are extremely well thought-out and tightly-written articles. Pudge, you're a smart guy (I've heard you speak and read your own blog/mail list posts), you don't need to be reminded that all news media contains bias. I'm glad that Gruber has the sack to acknowledge this, and write what he really thinks rather than tone down his writing [daringfireball.net] to get syndicated on some mainstream Mac site.

I don't agree with everything Gruber says, but his feed is at the top of my NetNewswire client and I look forward to his content every week. I think a lot of people will take your comment out of context -- care to explain?

Re:can't figure it out (4, Interesting)

gruber (114836) | more than 11 years ago | (#6589697)

Pudge, was that a shot, or just good-natured ribbing?

Surely it was good-natured ribbing. "Biased" isn't necessarily pejorative. Heck, "unbiased" often means "boring", so I'm pretty sure he was trying to pay me a complement.

objectivity non-existent (and bloody boring) (2, Flamebait)

zpok (604055) | more than 11 years ago | (#6591335)

True objectivity - like some think should be the norm - is in all practical sense non-existent. And every true attempt at it is boring - except for the holy wars that follow.

Facts, figures, comparisons, great stuff. But - in this context - meaningless without some extrapolation, guesswork and creative thinking...

I look for a bit of bias in everything I read and view, if only to check or offset against my own. It's fun. And the sites mentioned don't seem to claim to hold the holy grail of platform objectivity, so there you go.

It's surprising how many people value "objectivity" in what is supposed to be a bit of enlightning reading. What fun is left for the author if he's not allowed his own thoughts on the matter?

Btw thanks for pointing out Daring Fireball, don't know how I could have missed that one!

A Welcome addition (1)

Sebby (238625) | about 11 years ago | (#6598466)

I think this is a welcome addition.

This site has a good reputation for good content and none of the biased crap that is found on other tech sites and *gulp* Slashdot, or Dvorak's arse talk.

And one thing I've always said: if it's not on Ars Technica, it's not worth reading.

Mac OS X: What Apple isn't telling you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6657583)

Many Unix geeks, particularly on Slashdot [slashdot.org] , have praised Apple's decision to base Mac OS X off of the enterprise-ready BSD codebase. However, it seems that most have never actually taken a closer look at this OS. If they had, a closer inspection would reveal that Apple's philosophy toward *nix and Linux [sco.com] compatibility has been one of "embrace and extend", and this is meant in the M$ sense. Wherever possible, Apple has engineered their operating system to be incompatible with industry standards. Simply put, Mac OS X is a nonstandard, bastardized Unix that bears about as much resemblance to the real thing as does, say, Windows ME.

Let's start with the windowing environment, since that is the first thing users will notice. While both KDE [kde.org] and GNOME are mature, stable, and accepted as IEEE [microsoft.com] standards, Apple has elected to use neither. In fact, they don't even use X at all! Their display system is a proprietary, closed-source system called Quartz Extreme. In addition to the moral issues involved with closed software, this precludes the user from running X apps. There is an untested and alpha-quality X11 emulation layer available for download, but it is emulation, so programs will be slow. Does this sound like a standards-based system to you?

Looking under the hood, it gets worse. While all other *nixes use standard ELF binaries, Darwin (Apple's name for their proprietary "Unix" kernel) does not. It uses Mach-O, an unproven format that is proprietary to Apple. The moribund FreeBSD, off which OS X is based, uses ELF, so clearly Apple went to the extra effort of "switching" (heh) simply to break compatibility. With ELF, users would be able to run most of their Lunix apps; with Mach-O this is impossible. Additionally, Apple has moved most configuration info fromhuman readable text files into a proprietary database called "NetInfo", which is much like the Windows registry we all loathe. Why? These are only a few of the ways that Apple has deliberately broken compatibility with other systems, presumably in order to lock users in to expensive Mac hardware.

When we factor in the threat to users' civil liberties that is posed by the DRM included to support the iTunes Music Store (do you really think it will end there?) it is obvious that real *nix gurus should give OS X a wide berth. Caveat emptor.

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