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302 comments

First Post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632811)

Suck it down, Spectrum owners! Your keyboard's made of dead flesh!

DAILY REMINDERS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632945)

DAILY REMINDERS:

ya (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632812)

oh, ok

The real question is: (1, Funny)

oscast (653817) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632814)

would make S. Jobs shit his pants?

Re:The real question is: (-1, Troll)

cliffy2000 (185461) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632824)

No... the REAL question is would it make Dean Kamen clean Steve's soiled pants in order for him to denounce it.

Re:The real question is: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633163)

The real question is: when you asked "would make S. Jobs shit his pants?" what exactly did you mean? That certainly isn't an English sentence.

Fourth post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632815)

At one AM! I RULE!! You want to be me? Just let me know.

Re:Fourth post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632853)

I want to be you. How would I go about accomplishing this?

Re:Fourth post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633025)

You are not you, you're me. I hate to be an indian giver but that's my body you've got there and I want it back.

MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632819)

Yeah, waste you mod points, you dumb fucks, Mod me down!

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632827)

Yeah, keep it coming, I want more you dumb fuck!

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632843)

Yeah, that's what I thought, you don't have the balls to mod me down again.

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632902)

No, I just don't have the mod points.

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632953)

Yeah, that's cause my plan worked, I stripped all you mod points from you because you are a dumb fuck moderator that would also have modded good posts down while modding troll posts up. So, I hope that you feel that you used your mod points effectively. I hope that you feel that you truly benefitted the slashdot community by down-modding my already below-threshold comments.

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632936)

I want more you dumb fuck!

tell that to the fat guy when you're in prison.

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632872)

Silencing an asshole like you is not a waste of a mod point.

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632938)

No, see the moderators are complete idiots. My post was already at 0, below the threshold of most readers. Modding me down was utterly pointless. A mod point could have been used much more effectively modding up someone that was genuinely insighful, or modding down a worthless karma whore, or modding down a troll that was posting at +2. My post was intended to cause the stupid moderators to lose their mod points, because had they not modded me down, they would have most likely modded up a troll, or modded down someone that was genuinely insightful. So you see, I am doing us all a service by stripping the mod points from the truly stupid moderators.

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632988)

sounds like a plan.....idiot.

Re:MODERATORS ARE SUXORS!!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633044)

But what if an editor is the one modding you down? Then you've done no service to Slashdot, and you've got yourself IP banned. We all know Michael Sims, Slashdot's resident Nazi, likes to spend all day censoring posts, while jacking off to goatse.cx and tubgirl.

Interresting to see the difference (2, Interesting)

Anonymous MadCoe (613739) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632823)

Between British and US engineering.
Styles are different and I wonder what the differences would be.

Re:Interresting to see the difference (4, Interesting)

BobTheLawyer (692026) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632870)

it won't be British engineering, it will be Sinclair's engineering, which is always made of cheap standard parts rather than the expensive custom-designed bits and bobs that make up the Segway.

So it will be cheap, but made of plastic and probably won't work very well.

Sinclair products have always been cheap and nasty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633004)

What I can't understand is how he got in the news with this latest hollow promise. Nothing will come of it. No-one believes anything this old dottard has-been says, and no-one's going to invest a penny in his mad schemes any more.

Re:Interresting to see the difference (1)

azzy (86427) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633072)

But in 20 years people will be paying a lot of money for it on e-bay

Re:Interresting to see the difference (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633105)

Sounds like british engineering to me....

Re:Interresting to see the difference (1)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633137)

He's a clever man, but I think his designs are quite eccentric and ill thought out at times. The C5 for example had a very horrible driving position, I had a go in one once and began to hurt my back.

Followups (5, Funny)

barbazoo (604828) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632833)

I would like to see a followup to the ZX-Spectrum.

Uh (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632865)

That would be the Sinclair QL then.

Re:Followups (2, Informative)

turgid (580780) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632884)

You mean like the Loki [nvg.ntnu.no] super Spectrum [crashonline.org.uk] ?

Who needs followups? (5, Informative)

fleafan (547786) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632926)

ZX-Spectrum. Ha! That was one overpowered machine. We used to own a ZX-81 with 1K (one kilobyte) RAM, and a keyboard with no keys (well, at least not real ones).

It didn't have a disk drive or tape deck, so if we wanted to play a game we had to type the program in (in BASIC) from scratch every time the computer was turned off.
My dad used it for his budget at first, but since we had to keep everything on paper and re-enter the data anyway, he soon dropped it.

Oh boy, those were the days.

Re:Who needs followups? (4, Informative)

fruey (563914) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633041)

There was a tape interface on it though. Nicking Grannie's little cassette recorder from her bedside, and then plugging in the grey and black wires from EAR and LINE respectively (or was it EAR and MIC?) whatever, and you could save to tape and reload later.

This was standard equipment on our ZX81... although there was always that dreaded DODGY POWER LEAD which if someone so much as breathed on it, the computer would reset... those were the days.

Re:Who needs followups? (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633136)

The dodgy power lead was indeed bad news, but how about the dodgy ram expansion? I remember using either an easer or a matchbox underneath to stop the thing wobbling and crashing the machine.

Re:Who needs followups? (1)

fruey (563914) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633149)

Ahh yeah... you could get a whole 16Kb with the RAM expansion. They cost about 40 quid if I remember right. Maybe that was the second hand price I paid. Yeah, that was even worse, if you finally got a 4K program typed in or something.

I had hours of fun reliving all that on a ZX81 emulator on the Atari ST... I could just hit F5 to reset and imagine the DODGY power lead had been in effect...

Re:Who needs followups? (1)

turgid (580780) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633150)

The ZX81's tape interface, and more importantly the ROM routines, were pretty poor. However the Spectrum vastly improved upon them.

The poor old ZX81 spoke to the tape at 300 baud, and the screen went blank when loading and saving since the poor old Z80 processor had to do everyting. You could not save arbitrary blocks of memory, just a program and all its variables etc. so if you wanted to save data, you had to save the whole program as well.

The Spectrum was more sophisticated. It spoke at 1500 baud, and could save BASIC programs and arbitrary blocks of memory (and the "display file" ie video RAM) making it much more useful. The ULA generated the TV picture so the screen stayed visible when loading and saving. The Z80 still generated the tones for the tape though.

My ZX81 had an add-in FORTH (multi-tasking, real time) ROM from Skywave Software, Bournemouth, which had much improved tape handling software over the standard BASIC ROM. :-)

As you say, those were the days.

Re:Who needs followups? (1)

fruey (563914) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633166)

You did get black and white squiggles on the TV when stuff was loading though. Not as nice as the Blue/Yellow loading lines of the speccy though. There was some red too in there, or something. Don't quite remember.

Doooooo.... dit!

Program: manic

Doooooo.... didddlydlydidddlydidddlychorrrorrrchorrrdit!

And a loading screen would appear! Seemed like magic to me at the time.

Re:Who needs followups? (1)

tsa (15680) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633084)

I had a game on my '64 in which you could shoot at ZX Spectrums (Spectra?) and when you hit them they showered you with rubber keys.

Sinclair's other attempts... (5, Informative)

altgrr (593057) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632838)

I believe the article makes reference to Sinclair's other efforts at transportation: the Zike (a folding electric scooter) and the Zeta (a motor which attaches to a normal bicycle, harnessing energy when you go downhill and using it to propel you uphill at a stately 8mph, as I remember).

These relatively unknown inventions were peddled in the small ads sections of newspapers for a long time. The electric scooter sold for about 500, the bike motor for about 200. But no, I don't know anyone who had one.

Re:Sinclair's other attempts... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632876)

Re:Sinclair's other attempts... (1, Funny)

Meowing (241289) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632927)

the Zike (a folding electric scooter)

Yikes, serious flashback time. "You can go on a zike bike if you like. If you like you can go in an old blue shoe. Just go go go, please do do do!"

GWB on the segway... (5, Funny)

keplon (690637) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632962)

Even George Bush took a ride on one, although any White House endorsement was somewhat undermined when he was catapulted over the handlebars.

That's what he would call bad driving strategery.

Hrmm (-1, Redundant)

acehole (174372) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632841)

Gee I wonder what the top secret project could be...

I bet it's Sinclair C6

Re:Hrmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632940)

When the C5 was first announced, Sir Clive said that the next model would be the C4, and the series would continue until the C1 saw the light of day - the C1 was rumoured to be a real car.

But if you look at the C5 (plastic trike) and the Zike (c4) bike - it would appear that the machines in the series were getting smaller and slower....

Cool (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632852)

.... but can I run linux on it?

Re:Cool (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632999)

imagine a beowulf cluster of this

Re:Cool (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633064)

imagine Natalie Portman riding this while pouring hot grits down her pants

Oh what a surprise... (2, Interesting)

boomgopher (627124) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632860)

Well, this is some another company bashing it's competition - ooh, what big news.

But while we're on the topic of the Segway: Frankly, I'm surprised at all the negative reaction to the Segway, here (Slashdot) and elsewhere. I mean honestly, it's very innovative, compact, somewhat cheap, enviro-safe, etc. It could really compete with the automobile in many areas. And yet you get the mommy-types bitching about it promoting laziness, dangerous on sidewalks, etc. So nay-sayers, correct my misunderstanding: how exactly will the world be worse if Segways become massively popular? I see nothing but good coming from its adoption.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (4, Interesting)

Mathew Lankard (627700) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632890)

I think the bashing stems to the fact that the Segway was made out to be some marvel of modern technology that was supposed to change the way the world moved around. This was according the the hype from the creators and the press. Do we have this marvelous creation? No. Do we have something that Bush can ride around on and look like a bigger idiot? Yes.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (5, Informative)

Lars Arvestad (5049) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632923)

Well, this is some another company bashing it's competition - ooh, what big news.

I don't think he bashed it! To the contrary, Sinclair said:

I found it very enjoyable - a nice sensation once I got over the initial nervousness. It's very manoeuvrable, no trouble there at all. After a few minutes practice you can do anything you like.
Later in the article, he says it is not suitable for British sidewalks, but has applications elsewhere, and I think that is correct. It is a vehicle comparable to a bike and belongs on the street.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (2, Informative)

rokzy (687636) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632974)

in UK it's illegal (IANAL) to ride a bike on pavement ("British sidewalk"), they're for roads.

Segways should not be on roads.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (1)

radja (58949) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633014)

bikes should be on the road in most of europe, unless there's a bicycle-path. the sidewalk is for walking. segways shouldn't be on roads, so they're not well suited for euopean traffic.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (1)

JimPooley (150814) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633090)

in UK it's illegal (IANAL) to ride a bike on pavement ("British sidewalk"), they're for roads

That doesn't stop people from riding on the pavement though...!

Re:Oh what a surprise... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632946)

Who says the world will be worse if Segways become massively popular? careful where you are pointing that straw man.

The problem is with your assertion that it is 'somewhat cheap' (read expensive) is cumbersome (want to carry it up to your flat to re-charge?) and offers few advantages compared with a bicycle.

I use a bike for my commute into work, for quick trips to the shops (hey you can put panniers on it - where is the storage on a Segway?) and for pleasurabe jaunts into the countryside. By comparison the Segway isn't very versatile. ... no, I'm not a bike bigot I also drive a car. The Segway is a lovely concept, but doesn't give you enough USP bang for your buck.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633018)

'Flat', 'shops','panniers', 'jaunts'....You wouldn't be British, would you?

Re:Oh what a surprise... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633099)

No, Irish on a sober day.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (3, Insightful)

Bloodmoon1 (604793) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632980)

Frankly, I'm surprised at all the negative reaction to the Segway... it's very innovative, compact, somewhat cheap, enviro-safe, etc. ... And yet you get the mommy-types bitching about it promoting laziness, dangerous on sidewalks, etc. So nay-sayers, correct my misunderstanding: how exactly will the world be worse if Segways become massively popular?

I actually agree with you about the various merits of the Segway, yet I can say I abso-fucking-lutly hate it. Not because of what it is, but because of what it was made out to be. And I suspect my reaction is the same as many people, especially us /.ers.

Personally, I only think good can come from the Segway and future rivals going into widespread use. I mean, at the very least it isn't really going to ever hurt anything even if they all fall by the side as a technological curiosity. However, I'm pissed because of the hope I had. I remember in the months before the Segway came out, it was hyped as IT. It was going to more or less revolutionize some major facit of modern life, if not all of it. The inventor, Dean Kamen [usfirst.org] , is a very intelligent man, and if anyone could live up to his own predictions for a device of his design, it would be him. So when he said stuff like, "It will change the way cities are built. They will be built around IT." (Or something like that, he did say it would forever change city design) I really believed him, and I think so did most of us, hence the hatred for the Segway. I personally was thinking, "Ok, it sounds REALLY far-fetched, but what if this is something really bad ass? What if this is cheap and easy nuclear fusion, teleportation, a viable personal air transport, (or any of a hundred other things I've only dreamed of)." IT really got my hopes up. And then the big day of the unveiling comes up and, anxiously I awaited, only to find out IT_IS_A_FUCKING_SCOOTER!? This had to be, by far, the absolute biggest let down of a product in the (at least recent) history of mankind. After months of hype and hope, we get an advanced toy/novelty that's over priced [amazon.com] any damn way.

So really, I think the deep, intense hatred of the Segway is not a product of the product, but rather a product of the crushed dreams brought on by the hype of the product. Had we only known Steve Jobs' initial reaction [slashdot.org] , I think the let down may have been softer and the backlash much easier.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632985)

I'm surprised at all the negative reaction to the Segway,

Because it's just a toy. If you want to stand up while rolling along the pavement, use roller skates, a scooter, or a scateboard. All of which are much, much cheaper and more maneuvrable than the Segway. To go any distance, or carry luggage, use a bicycle.

About as useful as the neon light case mods. Cute to look at, but when you come down to it, a waste of time and money.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633062)

To me, my roller blades are the toys, just as I'd consider roller skates, a scooter, or a skateboard toys. On the other hand I'd love a Segway.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633131)

On the other hand I'd love a Segway.

Notice you said "love to have". Not "find it useful".

Re:Oh what a surprise... (1)

AntiOrganic (650691) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633026)

It's 10x more expensive than a relatively high-end mountain bike.

It's 25x more expensive than a cheap mountain bike.

I'd have nothing against Segways if they didn't cost so damn much. It's more a testament to what can be done with technology these days than what should. Kamen is a great guy (his brother taught music at my school until the douches fired him), and he's had some great ideas, but the Segway isn't really one of them.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633050)

Newsflash: Groundbreaking devices based on new technology that cost a lot to develop almost always cost much until some of the costs have been recouped, and volume and reengineering allows for cost cuts.

It's as if I'd been bitching about VCRs because they were expensive when they were launched, instead of wanting one but staying away until prices came down to reasonable levels.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (2, Funny)

oceanclub (654183) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633058)

The fact is that they cost a fortune ("somewhat cheap"? Pur-leaze.), are slow but still unwieldy and make you look like King Dork McDork of Dorkania from the the planet Dorkeraan. They have all the disadvantages of a car (problems with parking, cost, lack of exercise) with the disadvantages of a bike (no weather protection, no passengers, relatively slow speed) and none of the benefits. In short, they are ridiculous. There is definitely a market for one-person medium-speed transportation systems, but this is not the solution.

P.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (0)

fohidac (628592) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633067)

i think, most importantly, why people have been negative about the segway is that you look like a twat when you're riding it. no amount of innovation can detract from the fact that you look like a twat when you ride it.

Re:Oh what a surprise... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633156)

It doesnt shield you from the environment.

I'm Glad He's Doing This (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632862)

A response to a product that is a total flop is REQUIRED. We can't just let the Segway sit around with it's monopoly of 50 units sold, can we??

Re:I'm Glad He's Doing This (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632906)

The so-called revolutionary new personal transportation devices are nothing but glorified scooters. The segway was a flop because it is nothing but an overpriced self balancing scooter.

What we need is a segway-type device with no wheels that hovers a few feet above the ground, is powered by flubber, and costs $50. I'd buy that!

Re:I'm Glad He's Doing This (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633142)

Why does it have to be powered by flubber? It proves you're an idiot...and for $50, you'd buy 100 segways; it would probably take that many to carry your bulk.

SkyNet is attacking! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632864)

Come on people, can't you see...

Don't be fooled by the eloquent BS that the robot spewed out on Leno. The Terminator running for governor of California is part of SkyNet's diabolical plan to infiltrate our human political system in order to take it over. We need someone to cut the power to the state, before it's too late! And who else has a proven ability to cut electrical power to vast geographical regions besides Greyout Dufus!!

But if you don't like Arnold S., there is another Arnold in the race you can vote for:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/08/06/candidat e.coleman/ [cnn.com]

"Off Topic? Whatchu talkin 'bout Moderator?"

Re:SkyNet is attacking! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632873)

Voting for Davis would be worse than scortching the sky.

Re:SkyNet is attacking! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632895)

Sinclair and Segway are evil. It is all part of SkyNet. We're doomed.

OMG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632871)

That guy looks like such a gimp! Only a nerd would ride in one of those things.

Re:OMG (0)

trash eighty (457611) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632928)

sounds perfect for slashdot readers then :D

Sinclair C6 (0, Funny)

sardonic2 (576701) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632910)

Sinclair swipes the Segway prints some nifty stickers up that say Sinclair C6 and put them all over the Segway causing severe balance problems and all the Sinclair rebranded Segways flip the heads of large nations over the handle bars, backers of the Sinclair C6 pull out and the C6 is a failure.

Re:Sinclair C6 (1)

kikai suki (693400) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633061)

Bush flipped himself over the handlabars... He hadn't switched the thing (segway) on when he tried to ride it. Hop on a bike without making it roll or putting your feet down and you'll expereience the same thing sideways... Go ahead... Try it.

why? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632920)

What the heck is the appeal of these things? They must appeal to lazy-ass people who would rather get around in a wheelchair than walk, but without the stigma. Only a _dork_ would think these things are cool. More useless technology, another example of mankind wasting it's time and resources on bullshit. FFS.

Re:why? (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633091)

They must appeal to lazy-ass people who would rather get around in a wheelchair than walk

Yeah, just like all them dicks who buy cars.

Re:why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633139)

Automobiles have their usefulness. These hi-tech toys do not. Well, at least they're not a superior solution in any circumstance where they might in fact be useful. We need better methods of transporting a person for a short distance, slowly?

Re:why? (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633174)

A couple of reasons:

1) Running cars is expensive, what with registration, insurance, fuel, etc. Segways have no registration, little call for insurance and the "fuel" is cheaper. I know a number of people who only use their cars for driving to and from work and the local store, a 5 minute trip. Segways would be much cheaper in this instance.

2) For people whose work involves a lot of urban/suburban walking, like the poor old postman, the Segway would be much better.

2 reasons off the top of my head.

Americans do NOT need these transportation devices (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632921)

Listen up, you fat, stupid, greasy American fuckers. You're fat, stupid, and disgusting! You're basically fucked on 2 out of 3 of those attributes, but for the love of all that's holy, get the FUCK off the sofa, get your pale white ass OUT the door and go for a fucking WALK! You obese fuckers make me cringe, and now you fat fuckers are rolling down the sidewalks at 20 km/h on these stupid contraptions.

It just boggles me how pathetic you fucking AmeriKKKans are, but you do NOTHING about it except make things worse for yourselves by blowing up other countries. Yeah, THAT'LL make the terrorists get all touchy and feelie about Americans. FUCK!

Re:Americans do NOT need these transportation devi (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632996)

TROLL!? How in the living FUCK is the parent a troll!?!!! Do you DENY that Americans are a bunch of ill-educated, lazy, greasy, obese pieces of shit!? Perhaps you, Mr. Moderator, also happen to be one of those FAT FUCKING Americans? What's the matter, truth hurt? You piss! You piss of shit!

Re:Americans do NOT need these transportation devi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633045)

Listen up, you fat, stupid, greasy American fuckers.

That's fat, stupid, greasy, heavily ARMED with nuclear fucking weapons [google.com] American fuckers to you, buddy. You should be afraid.

I like the way... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6632933)

I sent this in 3 days ago, with more links.
Thanks Slashdot editors! I've only been rejected for stories 40 times!

Gone googling... (5, Informative)

register_ax (695577) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632942)

Sir Clive's C5 was "Driven by a combination of battery and pedal power, the C5 was declared a death trap by the Automobile Association because it was too small to be seen by lorry drivers."

If it isn't safe, it fails for practical use. The segway circumvents this as being reliable sturdy (heavy) US alteration it seems. Of course I'm merely a young chap[sic] residing in the US who has never heard of it before now.

Before I depart, I was wondering just how dangerous [google.com] it was. Proceeding to google it, I found an interesting interview [216.239.37.104] that appears to have taken place August 1986.

Of course relational interests are too much so I had to look into the Clive Computer [google.com] . I came across some interesting information [freeserve.co.uk] since my inception was the NES ;-]

Donations on the C5 site (-1, Offtopic)

MagPulse (316) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632966)

Has this free site been useful to you? If so, why not make a donation of 1 using PayPal?

Why would I pay to be advertised to? I usually give donations because I either think someone deserves it or a cause needs it. This guy does not deserve a pound for telling me about his invention.

Re:Donations on the C5 site (1)

Valar (167606) | more than 10 years ago | (#6632976)

The Site for Sinclair C5 Enthusiasts Worldwide

The Sinclair C5 was a commercial disaster. The Press hounded it as a dangerous joke.
Only around 12,000 C5's were ever produced, many sold off abroad after the project folded.


No, no, I don't think this is Sinclair's site. After all, very few people are proud of making 'commercial disasters.'

Engage brain before putting mouth in gear please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633020)

The Sinclair C5 Enthusiasts site that asks for donations is a hobbyist site. It is not advertising anything.

hmm (2, Insightful)

spamchang (302052) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633002)

i haven't RTFA, but segways seem like a good way to clog up sidewalks a la traffic jams. i mean, people slowing down and speeding up, the traffic compression effect all over again, just on the sidewalks. and they take up more space than your average human.

Hmm... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633012)

My moderation points have arrived, but my crack is late.

dodgy (3, Funny)

freedommatters (664657) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633035)

the c5 was cool but if you rocked it too much the ram pack fell out so you had to restart the engine and go back to the start of your journey. pisser.

He's missing out on a crutial market... (4, Funny)

canning (228134) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633052)

If I were him I'd throw an over-sized muffler on it, a huge wing and some carbon fibre parts. Than offer bigger rims, lowering springs and an enormous stereo as aftermarket add ons.

He'd sell alot more that way.

Re:He's missing out on a crutial market... (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633120)

I feel a movie coming on, The Gyroscopic and the Mildly Irritated

lmao! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633158)

Mod parent: Funny

hmm (1)

loraksus (171574) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633053)

and he's even planning some competition in the form of a top-secret follow-up to the Sinclair C5."

hell of a secret . . .
'nuff said.

Sinclair C5 (4, Interesting)

LizardKing (5245) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633066)

When I lived in Oxford, UK one of the members of the local LUG was also a Sinclair C5 fan. He occasionally uses his C5 to travel to work, having kitted it out with two flourescent flags on poles to make the machine a bit more visible. He also does long distance trips for charity once a year - I recall that the last one was an attempt to travel the length of the country. Spares are fairly easy to come by, one good consequence of Sinclair using off the shelf parts. The tyres for instance, are similar to those used on many prams(!).

Chris

What ever happened to the Wafer Chip project? (5, Interesting)

Dante_J (226787) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633075)

Forget the C5 or C6, and Segway.

Clive Sinclair did have a few sharp ideas and one of them was the the wafer chip project:

"What you have is a wafer of silicon a few inches in diameter and instead of chopping that up and putting all the bits that work into packages and then putting them all together again on a circuit board, you keep them on the wafer. The problem is that you've got to have some system to test for the good areas. Essentially we divide the memory up into blocks about the size of an ordinary chip and put a bit of extra logic on which uses a mathematical algorithm to connect up the good chips and not the bad. If one bit fails you can power-down and reconfigure it so it has an extended lifetime."

This was a genuinely good idea [f9.co.uk] . Reduce the cost of chip manufacture and extend the life of computers by many years. Just replace the odd power supply every 3 or 4 years. The reconfigure of faulty chips could even be done on the fly.

Using this proposed method, Memory & Processor chips aren't just "Good" or "Dead", they can last many years in a very slow state of hardly noticable decay.

Heat is a problem I hear you say for processors? Well if you have 20 of them on one wafer you don't need them to all be P4s.

Intel will probably jump onto this idea [nvg.ntnu.no] when Moore's law starts to flatten out.

Cheap slabs of ram and CPU, that don't fail all at once - yeah!!

Re:What happened to Wafer Scale Integration (0)

Dante_J (226787) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633113)

More info on the Wafer Chip project AKA Wafer Scale Integration.

During 1986, Sinclair Research (SRL) took the decision to divest itself of its computer business - which, inclusive of the then product range and 'Sinclair' brand name - was sold to Amstrad plc. The company itself then became a holding company for interests in a series of 'spin outs' covering electronics and other sectors. First among these in 1986 were the Winchester-based Shave Communications - a leader in the development of new communications products - and Anamartic. Established to design, develop and market a range of new memory and processor products using WSI (Wafer Scale Integration) technology, Anamartic shipped its first product in 1989 following a multi-million pound investment programme. It represented the 'first successful application of the wafer-scale technique worldwide'. At the same time Sir Clive also launched a third company, Cambridge Computer Limited, in which SRL initially retained majority control. Cambridge-based, it launched its first product, the best selling Z88 portable computer in summer 1987 and, during 1989, also entered the then new market for advanced satellite receivers.

Well the Z88 was a mild success that developed into the Psion [psion.com] PDAs. A nice approach to portable computing.

But what of the Wafer Scale Integration technology?

Anyone know?

Sad news ... Stephen King dead at 55 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633088)

I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

I submitted this almost two days ago! (-1, Offtopic)

MikeHunt69 (695265) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633107)

Oh yeah, I forgot how much I love slashdot!

2003-08-05 15:24:02 Move over Segway (articles,science) (rejected)

Exqueeze me? (1)

NeuroManson (214835) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633111)

Sorry Clive, 99.9% of those with an ounce of brain matter considered the Segway an utter waste of technology. Take our president, representative of that .1% who considered it worth using. It's a stupid rich boys toy, and an utter waste of time to use.

Most people with an ounce of brains could buy an electric scooter with far more range and capabilities for $300 or less here, with enough room for cargo and with options not seen in the Segway, such as turn signals, a horn, a ca0rgo basket, and a headlight. That should be enough of a clue for most.

What's so wrong with what we HAVE? (5, Interesting)

ai2097 (693562) | more than 10 years ago | (#6633140)

The major problem with Segways is that they don't fit into any of the current transportation channels that are available. They're too big and too fast for sidewalks, but they're too slow for bike lanes or the street.

Personally, I bike to work every day (~3 miles, 1.5 uphill, 1.5 down) with a 3-day hiking pack on my back full of all kinds of crap (~25 lbs on average).

Now, cycling has the same problem as Segways, to some degree; cycles are too slow for the road and too fast for the sidewalks. I usually end up on sidewalks because there are no bike lanes in my commute (or really anywhere in my city) and it's far too dangerous on the road.

Now, where a bike has an advantage over a segway:
- I can get off the bike and pass people at a walk.There's plenty of room for people to pass.
- No charging (no electricity, no gas, just food+water in and CO2/organic waste out)
- Keeps you healthy
- Costs little to buy
- Almost everything on a bike can be fixed with simple tools

Now... why is there even a market for these things? With busses, taxis, personal cars and motorbikes for motorized vehicles? With bikes and, I dunno, feet for personal transport? Why do we need something completely incompatible with all of the useful pavement we already have down?

As for using it to get around malls/ workplaces/ etc... you know all of the signs that say NO (insert whelled device here)? I'm sure that segways are not going to be allowed in these places before bikes are.

Anyhow, my 2c.

what's that white dot for? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633148)

what's that white dot/pixel just underneath the ad-banner do, please?
everytime i visit the slashdot.org website i nearly get a heart-attack because i think another pixel on my LCD went to pixel-heaven!!!

if you need it for the layout, can't you make it black, so i can't see it?

Re:what's that white dot for? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6633159)

how about a counter for overall submitted text on slashdot.org. like:

07/08/2003
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today: 127.6 MB plain/text
today: 505.6 MB HTML-code
TOTAL to date: 1.5 TB
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