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Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the please-alert-dave-barry dept.

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Vellmont writes "From the state that brought you the 2000 presidential election debacle, now comes the proposal to tax your LAN. The Orlando Business Journal is reporting that the the state of Florida is thinking about putting a 9% tax on LANs within the state. Exactly what they will be taxing isn't clear, since the tax amounts to 9% of... something. Will taxing the electrical wires within your home be next?"

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Fark says it best... (5, Funny)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789046)

[FLORIDA]. What more can you say about a state that can't even figure out voting?

Re:Fark says it best... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789154)

Nice sig :)
I've a card to the local cannabis club, yes I am in california, and yes I can buy almost 20 types of pot, hash and various confections, from a legal source that reports and pays state tax.

Re:Fark says it best... (1)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789184)

Life just isn't fair.

Re:Fark says it best... (5, Interesting)

killthiskid (197397) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789190)

The proposal has its roots in a legislative directive handed down two years ago. It aimed to modernize how the state taxes communications.

This ranks right up there with Minnesota regulating VOIP like a normal telephone service. [slashdot.org]

Why the hell do law makers seem to think that every new technology needs to regulated to hell, or treated like some form of existing technology??? The internet LIVES the way it does today because it happened so damn fast than lawmakers couldn't keep up...

The proposed rule pushes the definition of communications systems to include local area networks, or LANs, as well as wide area networks, or WANs, which connect computers across distances. Practically any office with two computers will have a local area network...
That brings them under the purview of the proposed rule, which includes computer networks as "substitute communications systems"

A substitue comm system? They must have needed a catch all to ensure they could screw every penny of tax of everything out there. Would this cover two tin cans with a string between them? I'd hate to see that go to court, I'm sure they'd rule it taxable.

I can understand the need for a 'tax' on very much public infrastructures like a massive telephone land line system or cable systems... but why would you need to tax someone extra for laying out 4 pair wire? Do in house telephone systems get covered? Do you have to have a certain type of equipment to 'qualify'?

Next: a tax on taxes (2, Funny)

MikeCapone (693319) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789223)

I'm impressed.

Re:Fark says it best... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789230)

yeah, florida. and alabama has roy's rock. now would the rest of you yanks kindly do something about your yokel states *other* than just move out? please? education is a requirement of successful democracy. type slower for them or something.

What they'll tax... (4, Funny)

sterno (16320) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789252)

Actually, as it turns out, because of some voting confusion, for every LAN installation, you'll be expected to pay approximately 9% of Pat Buchanan to the state of Florida. Pat Buchanan could not be reached for comment.

Maybe I have missed somthing... (2, Interesting)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789053)

Maybe I have missed somthing but...

Why ?

Re:Maybe I have missed somthing... (3, Funny)

canajin56 (660655) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789063)

Because it wasn't taxed yet

Re:Maybe I have missed somthing... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789064)

I think the real question is .. how?

Re:Maybe I have missed somthing... (2, Informative)

TamMan2000 (578899) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789191)

I think the real qustion is .. how?

from the article...

Computer networks would be taxed at that percent on either annual lease payments or depreciation.


Although I don't approve, it looks like they are trying to go after methods that businesses use to avoid other taxes. The fact that they would even think about resorting to this is evidence of how fubar our tax codes are (particularly wrt business)...

Re:Maybe I have missed somthing... (1)

bored_SuSE_user (701483) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789094)

I don't really understand this either...well i'm not american...so .... maybe americans will understand it. Still, they are not actually monitoring network traffic are they? I heard somewhere that computers in the future may be tracked to every single piece of hardware that is changed....

Well if no one else is gonna do it.... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789060)

Phase One: Tax LANs
Phase Two: ???
Phase Three: Profit

Re:Well if no one else is gonna do it.... (1)

Gherald (682277) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789126)

> Phase One: Tax LANs
> Phase Two: ???
> Phase Three: Profit

Wow, the old joke has advanced from "Step 1,2,3" to "Phase 1,2,3"

Is this a sign of maturity?

Re:Well if no one else is gonna do it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789180)

Not to be hopelessly mired in entertainment minutia or anything. But in the show, the Underpants Gnomes did say "Phase" as opposed to "Step."

Nooooooo!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789062)

Do not tax0r my lan, or I will hax0r ur f4g Winblow$ box3n, j00 n00b.

Yeah Why? (0, Flamebait)

chornobyl (694617) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789066)

Good thing I live up North though.

Oh yes, politicians understand technology... (4, Insightful)

draziw (7737) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789070)

That's why the DMCA, TCPA, copyright/trademark law, wiretap laws, etc. work perfectly. At least in this case, there is no chance at all that this proposed tax will actually happen. Next they will try to tax people who _think_ about buying something on the net, or ponder putting gas in their cars. Frigging idiots.

(Idiotic laws/implementation is part of why SCO is trying to pull off crazy moves)

--
I hear there are two types of people in Florida... Really really old people, and their parents.
+1 for good karma, love for the DMCA, SCO, and low user id.

Re:Oh yes, politicians understand technology... (1)

spj524 (526706) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789247)

Actually this could work... The article says it would tax leased systems (systems you pay for month to month, year, etc) and tax on the depreciation (tax write-offs for that $500 14.4k modem still in inventory) companies claim on older equipment not in use.

Which state? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789071)

From the state that brought you the 2000 presidential election debacle

Would that be Texas?

Re:Which state? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789145)

Don't blame us, we tried to keep him home.

Re:Which state? (-1, Offtopic)

Jack Comics (631233) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789158)

Close, actually it was Tennessee. If Al Gore gave up and acted like a graceful loser, none of that nonsense would have ever happened.

Who the hell is going to enforce this? (5, Funny)

Bones3D_mac (324952) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789072)

Are they going to audit anyone with a computer and an email address?

Re:Who the hell is going to enforce this? (4, Funny)

Bones3D_mac (324952) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789108)

Oh yeah... and what is the policy on parallel computing? Are they cconsidered a network or just a single computer?

God, this is going to get confusing fast.

Re:Who the hell is going to enforce this? (4, Informative)

canajin56 (660655) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789127)

The tax will be applied to sales of network cables, routers, network cards, etc. They will no more audit you for having a network than they currently enforce alcohol taxes by auditing you for what you drank last night.

Jeb (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789077)

What else can you expect from the state that elected a guy named "Jeb".

Re:Jeb (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789177)

Yes but remember he might follow the example of his brother and give the top 1% of LAN ownwers a tax break

Site slowing already - here's the text (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789078)

Taxing computer connections?
Proposal would levy fees on most in-house networks
Chad Eric Watt
Senior Staff Writer

ORLANDO -- A new rule now being formulated in Tallahassee could lead to a state tax of 9 percent -- or higher -- on computer networks commonly used in businesses.

"The standard response is on the border between surprise and outrage," says Arthur Simon, senior vice president of big-business lobby Ass ociated Industries of Florida.

The proposal has its roots in a legislative directive handed down two years ago. It aimed to modernize how the state taxes communications.

"Most of Florida communications case law stems from the rotary dildo era," says David Bruns, spokesman for the state Department of Revenue.

Reforms passed in 2001 simplified how communications taxes were collected and presented to taxpayers.

But how to define -- and whether to tax -- new sorts of communication devices was left somewhat unclear in the legislation, Bruns says.

The proposed rod pushes the definition of communications systems to include local area networks, or LANs, as well as wide area networks, or WANs, which connect computers across distances. Practically any office with two computers will have a local area network.

Associated Industries knew a rule was coming, says Simon. "What did surprise the business community was the extent and reach of the rule," says the lobbyist.

That brings them under the purview of the proposed rule, which includes computer networks as "substitute communications systems" -- subject to a 9.17 percent state tax, plus local option taxes.

In Orange County, the local tax typically runs between 5.5 percent and 6.5 percent. That would bring the total tax to between 14-15 percent.

Computer networks would be taxed at that percent on either annual lease payments or depreciation.

To be sure, the proposal is very preliminary. By putting it down on paper, state rulemakers are hoping to hear from businesses and others on how it would affect them, says the Department of Revenue's Bruns.

"We're hoping we get a lot of attention paid to this and understand what impact would it have," he says.

Associated Industries is asking its members to complete a quick worksheet, estimating how much tax they would pay under the proposed rule.

It's too early for a dollar figure, but its members are not pleased to see more tax on their plates, says Simon. Should the rule go into effect, he adds, the state Legislature could step in.

"I would not be surprised to see that the issue ends up in the lap of the Legislature in the spring," says Simon.

For his part, Bruns says the department would like to hear thoughts from anyone and everyone, even irate business and legislators.

"That clanging you hear is the machine working," he says.

mod parent down (1)

kudos200 (698269) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789142)

the site's not slow, someone just wanted to see the word "dildo" in a comment.

Moderators, read closely, this is a troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789143)

n/t

Re:Site slowing already - here's the text (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789148)

"Most of Florida communications case law stems from the rotary dildo era," says David Bruns, spokesman for the state Department of Revenue."

Informative? Mods smoke crack. YHBT.

Re:Site slowing already - here's the text (1)

msilano (71287) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789175)

Um, can you please check the parent's retyping of the message? Unless Florida is still in the rotary dildo era, I believe the actual article reads rotary dial era.

Re:Site slowing already - here's the text (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789265)

I'm told the new touch tone dildos are much better.

WARNING! Troll text insertions! (1, Troll)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789194)

Before giving kudos to the AC for not Karma Whoring, mods beware. There's at least two items in the text that don't belong:

"Most of Florida communications case law stems from the rotary dildo era," says David Bruns, spokesman for the state Department of Revenue.

The proposed rod pushes the definition of communications systems to include local area networks, or LANs, as well as wide area networks, or WANs, which connect computers across distances.

The original site [bizjournals.com] isn't slowing down, so mod this puppy back down.

Re:Site slowing already - here's the text (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789206)

Interestingy, since these comments were posted, the ranking has gone from +2 informative, to +4 informative. Crack indeed.

Rotary what? (-1)

illuminata (668963) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789208)

"Most of Florida communications case law stems from the rotary dildo era," says David Bruns, spokesman for the state Department of Revenue.

Rotary dildo era, sounds dirty. Would put a whole new spin on phone sex.

Re:Site slowing already - here's the text (1)

linuxtelephony (141049) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789215)

I would not be surprised to see serious exodus of businesses in the state if this goes into effect. And probably a lot of new growth opportunity along the GA/FL border.

Seems like this would do more harm than good. It might make expansion and/or relocation in other states more cost effective. This means growth that would have been in FL, which in turn would mean additional tax revenue, will likely go elsewhere. And, if it leads to companies downsizing and relocating out of FL, then you end up with a loss of revenue for the state.

Call this the Barney Fife tax -- they'll be shooting themselves in the foot with it.

Hhhuhhuhhuh... he said "chad"... (1)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789218)

Is he a hanging chad? A dimpled chad? Oh! Oh! The humor! ;)

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all we>SPLUThey!

Re:Site slowing already - here's the text (1)

Politburo (640618) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789234)

rotary dildo, that's fucking GOLD.

LANing under the table (2, Funny)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789083)

If you dont pay the taxes, then you will be violating the DMCA. It's really that simple I would think.

Great! (4, Funny)

malibucreek (253318) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789086)

Well, if it's nine percent of my incoming spam that they want... the state can have it.

Heck, take 100 percent. Anything I can do to help.

The most outrageus thing i ever heard!!! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789093)

if you tax LAN, you can tax telephone, gas lines, electricity, radio, TV... anything... havent they heard than in the 20th century, it's the state for it's people rather than the people for the sate...?!!!!

Re:The most outrageus thing i ever heard!!! (1)

cualexander (576700) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789174)

Last time I checked the utitlity bills for phone, gas, and electricity, and cable included local taxes....So its not like they aren't being taxed. Read your bill!

About that rate. (5, Funny)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789096)


> Exactly what they will be taxing isn't clear, since the tax amounts to 9% of... something.

Clearly, they'll charge you 94,371.84 bytes per megabyte.

Presumably you can pay by simply sending them a big e-message.

Fuck Florida (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789098)

And those vote counting idiots. They helped overthrow the legitmate government.

Who needs a military coup when a judiciary coup works just as well?

Re:Fuck Florida (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789133)

"They helped overthrow the legitmate government." No, Clinton and Gore are fucking tools. And Bush is starting to get under my skin with the whole Patriot Act crap.

read my lips... (1, Funny)

PoPRawkZ (694140) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789099)

no new packets!

Great... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789101)

So now I'll have to pay the local government when I send things over my CAT5 cable. So this means that my network connected storage device will be taxed with all transfers.

Re:Great... (1)

tekspot (531917) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789258)

Maybe they should go a step further and tax the bits going through the IDE and SCSI cables???

P.S.
I wonder, how much bandwidth brain average human uses, and if we can tax that too...

My question is (2, Insightful)

reboot246 (623534) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789103)

9% of what? Two computers in an office times 9% doesn't make any sense. Typical legislators - educated way beyond their intelligence.

Tax on purchase? (3, Insightful)

syates21 (78378) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789106)

It sounds like a crappy idea any way you slice it, but from reading the article it looks like they are talking about taxing the purchase of the LAN equipment, rather than taxing/metering of usage itself.

What I don't understand is why this would be treated differently than buying desktop organizers or office chairs.

Morons.

Maybe I'm missing something, but (2, Insightful)

ded_guy (698956) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789109)

How can they legally tax something that's wholly owned and operated internally by an organization?

Re:Maybe I'm missing something, but (1)

Dr Reducto (665121) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789165)

"How can they legally tax something that's wholly owned and operated internally by an organization?"

Welcome to America, kid. Now the corporations have a whole other set of taxes to dodge.

Realy though, it sounds like a cash grab. Government sees money, so it always wants to get a slice of the pie. You will see this more and more in an effort to pay for the over-inflated security budgets of states due to terrorism.

Re:Maybe I'm missing something, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789263)

It may be idiotic ....
but sovereign states have unlimited authority....
and you can talk to your representative....
and tell him how idiotic it is....
but using more diplomotic words would help.

9.17% of zero equals.... (1)

xanderwilson (662093) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789111)

zero.

I believe the tax applies where charges are made for the actual communication, not the equipment itself.

Otherwise I think there'd have to be a nine percent tax on styrofoam cups and a question at the register, "Sir, do you plan on tying a string between two of these so your kids can play in their tree fort?"

Alex.

Looking for feedback (2, Funny)

SnowWolf2003 (692561) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789114)

"We're hoping we get a lot of attention paid to this and understand what impact would it have," he says.

I am thinking that they will have trouble finding any positive responses.

Uh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789122)

I don't get it.

Taxed on What? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789123)

From the article:

Computer networks would be taxed at that percent on either annual lease payments or depreciation

Shouldn't the author of the article, at least, be the one to RTFA?

what they are taxing... (5, Informative)

ih8apple (607271) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789128)

according to this article [msnbc.com] : "Computer networks would be taxed at that percent on either annual lease payments or depreciation."

Re:what they are taxing... (1)

ih8apple (607271) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789155)

actually, I just noticed that it's the same article, but hosted as part of msnbc...

I propose a change in the bill (1)

robogun (466062) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789129)

FL should tax the spammers that operate out of 561 [guardian.co.uk] -- they operate HUGE networks (assuming you include their wan links and Korean relays) and could be a source of "enlarged" revenue, if you get my drift.

Nobody Expects... (5, Funny)

Lawrence_Bird (67278) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789131)

The Lanquisition!

NOBODY expects the LANquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the IRS.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

Misses the point of communications taxes... (5, Insightful)

MadCow42 (243108) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789138)

The original intent of most communications taxes was to subsidize the government's cost for the publically provided communications infrastructure... if the gov't is going to be supplying me with a free GigaBit ethernet LAN, then sure, they can tax it's use.

Get with the program people... sounds as wacky as Seattle's proposed tax on espresso!

MadCow.

Taxing LANs? (2, Insightful)

tgraupmann (679996) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789139)

How could they possibly tax a LAN? First of all a LAN isn't connected to the internet by itself. Second, firewalls protect the visibility of the LAN. Third, where is the profit. Technically a LAN could be a $2 cross over cable. I have to think maybe someone non-technical came up with this. Perhaps they meant taxing commerical networks or ISPs. But then again, Florida can't even count to ten. Must be in the genes.

Don't fret, folks. (5, Funny)

Dirtside (91468) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789140)

This is all just an attempt to take back the coveted title of The Doofus State [miami.com] from California. We reacquired it thanks to our upcoming election. (If Schwarzenegger wins, it's Total Recall, I suppose.)

Taxman (4, Funny)

Esion Modnar (632431) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789144)

Let me tell you how it will be, here's one for you nineteen for me, 'cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman.

Should 95% appear to small, be thankful I don't take it all, 'cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman.

If you drive your car, I'll tax the street, if you take a walk, I'll tax your feet, if you get too cold, I'll tax the heat, if you take the bus, I'll tax your seat, TAXMAN!!!

Next... (1)

dos4who (564592) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789146)

they'll want to tax the AIR that I breathe.. oh, wait.. they already do: http://www.discountmedssupply.com/oxygentherapy/ ~m

Why not? (0, Flamebait)

tjstork (137384) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789149)


Why not tax LANs in Florida? Probably the only two groups that have them are NASA and Disney. Isn't the rest of the state just topless broads, fast cars and slobbering old people. :-)

You forgot about the New Yorkers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789235)

N/T

So (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789156)

if you lan and internal phone system (obviously its another communication network) are seperate will you be taxed twice ?

Local LANs (1)

theoddball (665938) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789160)

A tax on local local area networks...hm. Thank god they aren't passing a stuttering tax.

Re:Local LANs (1)

lusciouslen (664165) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789268)

Then, imagine all the tax money they could raise from all the "built on NT technology" installs.

Legislation by trolling (1)

ttyRazor (20815) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789164)

They actually flat out stated that they did this just to piss people off so they'd actually say something about it. That's just... yeah.

Recount! (5, Funny)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789166)

Exactly what they will be taxing isn't clear, since the tax amounts to 9% of... something

If it's by the byte, for heavily black/jewish democratic networks 1MB= 1024kB. On republican networks 1MB will = 1000kB.

Oh...and will they count hanging patch cords? What about ones that are plugged in, but haven't fully clicked into the port, and fall out during counting?

God help Florida users if the government learns of half versus full duplex...

What constitutes a LAN? (1)

oaklybonn (600250) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789172)

My computer has several buses; since the keyboard and mouse contain microcontrollers that talk over USB, could they be considered a "Network" and thus taxed? How about establishing a PPP connection to, oh, say AOL? Cell phone data?

Has to be said (0, Redundant)

Kevin DeGraaf (220791) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789173)



What the hell?!?

Maybe this will involve RIAA-style math (4, Insightful)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789186)

Well, if the RIAA can discover "virtual" CD burners in raids, maybe they'll tax "virtual ISPs", or "server potential" which would be the result of some weird formula involving CPU types and speeds, RAM complements, etc...

I can see the headlines now. "Joseph McMurphy has been artrested in Altamonte Springs, Florida, for allegedly possessing the equivalent of 6 Internet servers without paying network wiring taxes. This amount, roughly equivalent to 60 small Web sites or 600 personal sites......."

Broke... (1)

MoeMoe (659154) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789195)

Go ahead and imagine what it would be like to have a Beowulf Cluster of those... I dare you... In-fact, Florida dares you!

My Local LAN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789197)

Your Rights Online: Florida Proposes Taxing Local LANs

Does this mean I have to buy a new Network NIC?

Totally fair. (1)

kwerle (39371) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789203)

My lan costs me 0.00$/year. At least that's my story.

They're welcome to 9% of it.

Re:Totally fair. (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789242)

I donate 10 Million dollars a year to mine. Does that qualify me for a rebate ?

What they're taxing... (1)

mgcsinc (681597) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789204)

As for the question raised of what their taxing: "Computer networks would be taxed at that percent on either annual lease payments or depreciation," which I presume to mean replacement purchases...

Good luck (5, Interesting)

shogarth (668598) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789207)

So you get a bunch of legistators in a room and they decide to implement a tax based on lease payments or depreciation. Good luck to them.

There are some amazingly difficult terminology problems for them to define:
  • For calculating depreciation, what is the lifespan of the cable plant? Does fiber have a longer lifespan than copper? If so, how much longer?
  • Is the labor cost of installing the cable plant taxed or just the materials?
  • What is the lifespan of a switch/router? How about a VPN server? A NAT box? A firewall?
  • Are servers included as part of the LAN? If so, how do you differentiate between a "server" and a "desktop?"
  • If you are leasing, do you get taxed on the service/support component or just the equipment costs?
  • Since vendors don't report these sales to the municipality, how in the Hell are they going to enforce this?

Just what we need... (1)

vought (160908) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789209)

As if local area networks weren't already taxed enough due to greedy bandwidth-hogging users and their viruses!

"That clanging you hear is the machine working" (1)

mikeophile (647318) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789210)

If my mechanic told me that, I'd chew him a new one and demand my money back.

Does the submitted even read article anymore? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789211)

"Exactly what they will be taxing isn't clear, since the tax amounts to 9% of... something."

Oh really? The first sentence of second page of article clearly states, "Computer networks would be taxed at that percent on either annual lease payments or depreciation." So they are taxing 9% of capital costs or depreciation.

Will taxing the electrical wires within your... (4, Interesting)

DrinkDr.Pepper (620053) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789225)

home be next?

Well lets see, I pay tax on my telephone bills, on my power bill, on my gas bill. I pay it on any wires I buy to install in my house and I pay tax on my house itself. What isn't taxed within my house?

Hmmm . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789233)

Basically, 9% packet loss?

Fantastic idea (4, Insightful)

kstumpf (218897) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789236)

What a great way to encourage businesses to setup shop in your state! I'm sure companies will flock to Florida now.

I'd send them a check... (4, Funny)

KillerHamster (645942) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789243)

...right after I finish writing one for SCO.

It's the RIAA!!!!!! (1)

luckyguesser (699385) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789246)

It's REALLY the RIAA wanting more money for MP3's which were NO DOUBT illegally obtained. And besides, what would people send across LANs besides MP3's?!? Is there ever a bad time for pudding? ... Well? ... IS there???

National Athem, Rev2 (3, Funny)

switcha (551514) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789250)

Now they will have to edit out that part about "LAN of the free, and home of the brave".

Wha'?! It's what?

The most outrageous thing he ever heard... (1)

mgcsinc (681597) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789251)

"if you tax LAN, you can tax telephone, gas lines, electricity, radio, TV... anything... havent they heard than in the 20th century, it's the state for it's people rather than the people for the sate...?!!!!" Ummmmm... They tax telephone... and gas lines... and electricity... and I don't really understand how you propose they have a state for the people with no damn money...

It is clear what is being taxed (1)

brandido (612020) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789254)

The posting of the story says
Exactly what they will be taxing isn't clear, since the tax amounts to 9% of... something. "
However, reading the article, it indicates that the tax will be based on depreciation or lease payments:
Computer networks would be taxed at that percent on either annual lease payments or depreciation.

9% of ... something (1)

hamsterboy (218246) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789255)

Actually, according to page 2 of the article [bizjournals.com] :
Computer networks would be taxed at that percent on either annual lease payments or depreciation.
Lease payments may be large, in the case of, say, an IBM or Cisco install, with IBM or Cisco hardware running the network. Computers themselves depreciate over two years (I think), and routers and bridges are probably the same, but I'm not sure how long the CPAs figure the Cat5 will last.

As somebody else stated, does this mean that buying any computer with an RJ45 connector will trigger a 9% sales tax? This is supposed to be a reform of Florida communications tax structure; they're probably trying to close up a tax loophole involving VoIP, but it sounds like they have DMCA-itis.

Hamster

makes sense! (0)

kaseyH (649717) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789259)

oh wait....no it doesn't

remind me to fill out form 70-34-w6 next time I set up a LAN party to be sure I give some more of my hard earned money to the same people who brought you "election 2000"

What else would you expect from the state shaped like a dick?

Taxes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789260)

Well, maybe someone should start collecting taxes on incompetency. I'm sure that'll bring in a small chunk of change...

My Favorite qoute... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6789262)

"We're hoping we get a lot of attention paid to this and understand what impact would it have," he says.

$$$$LOBBY$$$$$$

How are they going to regulate this? (1)

The_Pey (532136) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789266)

Exactly how can they regulate this? While it may be true that most offices have a LAN, what about the average home? "What LAN? I don't have a LAN? Honey, have you seen the LAN..? Nope, no LANs around here - I think Bob down the street has one." Additionally, how are they going to audit wireless networks? Ad-hoc ones? Do you get taxed when you go stumbling on your neighbors?

A Floridian speaks (4, Interesting)

Glamdrlng (654792) | more than 10 years ago | (#6789267)

I've pretty much grown use to shite like this from our legislature. When they're not too busy cutting money from education or giving HMO's a get-out-of-lawsuit-free card, they occasionally manage to do something I find surprising and refreshing, but no less assinine.

I think this law is fine, but I say reverse it: instead of levying a tax on private companies for their LANs, how about they levy a tax on themselves for every piece of copper and fiber in the state, county, and city government networks. Then they should take that money and invest it in supporting the bits of Florida's economy that aren't tourism or hospitality, and see how that works out.

Fucktards.

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