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First Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835185)

Well, did I make it this time?

- DT

Post 9/11 Employment Woes (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835336)

First they came for the menial jobs. I never spoke out because I didn't have a menial job.
Then they came for the unskilled laborer jobs. I never spoke out because I wasn't an unskilled laborer.
Then they came for the skilled labor jobs. I never spoke out because I wasn't a skilled laborer.
Then they came for the call center jobs. I never spoke out because I didn't work in a call center.
Then they came for the middle management / clerical jobs. I never spoke out because that wasn't my job either.
Then they came for the programmer's jobs. And there was no-one left in employment who wanted to help me.

FACT: This country is being hollowed out from the inside by filthy subhuman animals. An invasion of scum, often illegally entering the country, who are crawling their way into good jobs. Why? Because they are wanting to take everything over. We all know to what effect that 'positive discrimination' has altered employment practises. Now, instead of the most valuable person for the job, companies are obliged to employ rancid, workshy immigrants.

Of course, the animals want to get into good companies, so they in turn can influence management decisions to outsource further jobs to their cousins overseas. Thus destroying an entire nation.

From the lowliest Janitor to the highest executive, foreigners MUST be eliminated from our corporations.

THEY BREED FASTER THAN OURSELVES BECAUSE THEIR LIVES ARE WORTH LESS.

Fucking Whore Interviewed (-1)

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AcaBen luvs Jusesgeeks! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835202)

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Surprising for a female. (-1, Troll)

Thinkit3 (671998) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835203)

This chick needs to be cloned or something.

Re:Surprising for a female. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835299)

Please don't clone her [harvard.edu]

Ick!

Ill give you an Alka Seltzer (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835208)

Up the ass! Yes Micheal, its time YOU were outsourced to Afganistan, right along with Johnkatz

But.. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835217)

Are there any pictures?

Re:But.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835223)

Yep [nist.gov]

fap....fap....fap..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835239)

leave me alone!

Re:But.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835252)

Hubba hubba!

Re:But.. (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835313)

Here's another [harvard.edu]

Re:But.. (1)

God! Awful 2 (631283) | more than 10 years ago | (#6836817)

Thanks... I was trying to figure out whether this was the EFF lawyer I saw make an ass of herself on CNN a few weeks ago defending file sharing, and it was.

I have to say, I always thought that being a lawyer required a modicum of public speaking skills, but she has none. She stuttered incoherently for a couple of minutes and made the RIAA guy look good.

-a

Re:But.. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835266)

Heres another one [stilemedia.com]

Re:But.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835276)

Wow, that's her? She's famous! I see her pic all the time on Slashdot and IRC.

Re:But.. (1)

The Salamander (56587) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835646)

In the spirit of fark and smokinggun:

pic! [seltzer.org]

Re:But.. (1)

dipipanone (570849) | more than 10 years ago | (#6837453)

That's a terrible toupee that she's wearing. She should bite the bullet and go full-on slaphead.

saturday + seltzer (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835224)

Thanks I needed that. Seltzer for breakfast - num num. Anyone know what time is it?

Bung! [rogers.com]

Hey... (1)

supertsaar (540181) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835226)

Never knew Alka had a sister....

Dude, that joke was so freakin' obvious (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835241)

Thou shall beg us pardon ya creep.

Re:Dude, that joke was so freakin' obvious (1)

supertsaar (540181) | more than 10 years ago | (#6852064)

Okay okay... should have added the following line: *ducks rotten tomatos*

Re:Hey... (0, Offtopic)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835274)

Never knew Alka had a sister

Okay, I'll admit it's the first thing I thought too.

How much do you bet she got so tired hearing that all day long all her life that it has something to do with her wanting to become a lawyer ? I mean, why else would someone want to be hated ?

Re:Hey... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6837160)

Ok, I've got to be a major CS geek, since my first thought was - any relation to Margo Seltzer?

With so many jobs being lost. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835229)

Must we really keep on with this "Equal Rights" fad and hire woman into our enviroment? I mean come on, sure we need a distraction from the screen every once in a while and a bit of skirt provides this, but id rather stare at a screen saver than the dogs that get hired just to look good on the employment quota sheet. 1 black guy, check. 1 Hispanic guy, check. 1 asian guy, check. 1 gay, check. 1 person with ginger hair, check. 1 woman who we can pretend to respect and patronize, check.

It's not about 'lost jobs', it's about attitude. (4, Insightful)

WegianWarrior (649800) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835251)

How about focusing on "equal oppertunities" instead, and hire the best person for the job, with no regard to gender, skincolour, cultural background or religion? I'm sure that will work out better, while at the same time makeing sure the rest of us don't have to hear people whine about how the new co-worker was hired just because she sits down when she pees (instead of standing up, like most guys do).

Just my 2 cents.

Re:It's not about 'lost jobs', it's about attitude (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835286)

I'm sure that will work out better, while at the same time makeing sure the rest of us don't have to hear people whine about how the new co-worker was hired just because she sits down when she pees (instead of standing up, like most guys do).

i've known a few ladys who stand up while peeing. where do they fit into this?

Re:It's not about 'lost jobs', it's about attitude (2, Insightful)

klueless (695037) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835340)

You can't solve the social problem of sexism/racism with this, although it *sounds* ideal. People are born into categories that are inequal, and equal opportunities aren't enough to give them what they deserve - a fair chance.
I know that as a white male I'll gladly give up my spot at the state univ. if it will mean the university becomes less segregated. Then and only then, after the situation of unequal footing due to race/sex has been improved through getting to know people of other backgrounds more personally, we can say an equal opportunity is enough.

Re:It's not about 'lost jobs', it's about attitude (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6836007)

Bullshit. After you have managed to equalize race and sex, I suppose that next you will tackle intelligence, beauty, weight, height, and all of the other irrelevant categories that people use to discriminate. Affimative action is nothing more than a political tool used by some to garner favor from minority groups and those who sympathize with them.

Re:It's not about 'lost jobs', it's about attitude (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835349)

"rest of us don't have to hear people whine about how the new co-worker was hired just because she sits down when she pees"

Here in lies the problem, SHOULD she be hired because she takes a pi$$ sitting down?!?!?! Just give me her wage (as I`ll end up doing her job anyway to make up for her) and I`ll squat to take a pi$$ also.

What diffrence does it make? (2, Insightful)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835396)

I get most if this information via text anyway... It doesn't matter to me if the staff attorney has their reproductive organs externaly or otherwise, nor if they can see their feet if standing upright.

Re:It's not about 'lost jobs', it's about attitude (1)

dipipanone (570849) | more than 10 years ago | (#6837473)

How about focusing on "equal oppertunities" instead

Damn... are those the dulcet strains of 'Dualling Banjos' that I hear being played as a soundtrack to this post?

Clearly there's no chance of *you* ever being hired over Wendy Seltzer -- unless they introduce affirmative action for hillbillies, anyway.

Re:It's not about 'lost jobs', it's about attitude (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6838338)

Here [restrooms.org] is a guide for women who want to pee standing up.

Re:With so many jobs being lost. (3, Informative)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835359)

Why don't you look her up on Lexis/Nexis, read her articles, and then come to your conclusions?

Re:With so many jobs being lost. (1)

rbullo (625328) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835392)

We're sorry. The Slashdot crowd does not have that capibility. If you would like this feature to be added, please email CmdrTaco [mailto] .

Blow holes. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835232)

I like putting golf balls in the blow holes of whales.

What a coincidence! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835269)

I like putting my balls in your mom's blow hole, too.

Re:Blow holes. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835308)

Are you a retard? that post of yours is so incredibly stupid it's just mind boggling ...

Muppet Mind (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835242)

Try watching one episode of the old Muppet Show for a week straight. Eat, sleep, etc. and keep watching otherwise. Now see what your thought process is like following this week. Do you continue to think about petty things? Or do you walk on your hands and talk through your nose about the simple things?

Since Greplaw is getting Seltzerized... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835246)

Here is the TOTA!

# Who is Wendy Seltzer?

I'm now a staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and a Fellow with the Berkman Center for Internet & Society (which Greplaw readers might know as the wacky and wonderful institution that hosts Greplaw). I spent lots of time programming and thinking about Internet technology in law school, as the Berkman Center's first general-purpose tech, and that experience deepened my concern that bad tech regulation could choke the very speech that the Internet enables.

# Some Greplaw readers may not know about the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). Can you please give a brief presentation of the EFF?

EFF is a non-profit public interest organization fighting for free expression and civil liberties in the digital age. As an organization, we stay on the front lines of new technology, watching for places where the code and law collide. We try to ensure that individual freedoms survive the collision, so the rights we've enjoyed offline persist into the online world.

# What do you do as a EFF staff attorney?

I focus on intellectual property and fair use, spending lots of time explaining why copyright's overbreadth is a free speech issue. For example, I've been fighting the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, in an amicus brief of behalf of 321 Studios (makers of DVD X-Copy, which enables archival and personal-use copying of DVDs), protecting reverse engineering (BNETD and Lexmark v. Static Control), and working to preserve Internet users' rights against overbearing copyright claimants (amicus supporting Verizon's fight for its customers' privacy in RIAA v. Verizon). I've also been encouraging other participants, such as universities and ISPs, to take more active roles on behalf of their students and customers.

# How did your friends react when you left your hot-shot lawyer career at Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel to protect civil liberties on the Internet?

The better they knew me, the less surprised they were. Kramer Levin was extraordinarily supportive of my pro bono work with the Berkman Center, but it became clear that I wanted to be fighting the public-interest battles more than just part time.

# What are the most important current challenges to the freedom of the Internet?

Even though I spend a lot of time on copyright and "intellectual property," I'd have to say that the biggest threats right now come from allowing government's cries of "terrorism" to erode our Constitutional rights to privacy, free speech, free association, and due process. Online, that translates into Carnivore boxes, secret wiretaps, and draconian cybercrime sentences. I'm encouraged that politicians in both parties now seem more willing to challenge the official line that the public must give up its rights "for our own good." These rights are what we're fighting for in the first place.

# Professor Lessig and others seem to think that the sky is falling over the Internet. Are you as pessimistic about the future?

I'm somewhat optimistic that in the long term, we'll restore balance to technology regulation, but I'm still pessimistic in the short term. And the short term might last a long time.

# Why?

It takes a long time to teach the judges, legislators, and public to understand technology. Right now, they're getting a strong dose of "education" on the Internet's threats and harms, and not hearing so much about its potential. Shouts of "piracy" often outweigh consideration of how we might communicate with more open media formats, but judges like Stephen Wilson in the Grokster case are starting to listen through the shouting. We're encouraging more people to think about how the law shapes technological innovation, how the technology itself can foster creativity, and then to do something about it to advance the public interest.

# How could Greplaw readers help the EFF, except for obviously donating to the EFF?

Become activists, starting locally. We've seen the MPAA introduce state "super DMCAs" across the United States, and expect them to be continuing that push to block technological development. We also see the U.S. trying to globalize its copyright policy through international treaties. Local activists can help explain to their elected representatives why these proposals are bad law, and can help us rally opposition to them. Even lower impact, tell a few friends about a technology issue that concerns you. Of course donations to EFF are always welcome, and we've got some shiny new cards with the Bill of Rights printed on them!

# What is Chilling Effects and why should Greplaw readers care?

Chilling Effects is a clearinghouse for cease-and-desist letters sent and received about online activity. Law students at clinics around the country highlight the letters with explanations of the legalese. Quite often, we see C&Ds that grossly exaggerate the law -- claiming that EnronOwnstheGOP infringes Republican Party trademarks, for example -- so we try to help readers understand their rights in response. Without resources like Chilling Effects, many people who get threat letters think there's no choice but to shut down. We want to help them resist this chill, when what they're doing is lawful.

# It seems a lot of cease-and-desist-letters still are distributed. Has Chilling Effects had any success?

When we started Chilling Effects, we were seeing lots of websites just disappear, replaced by a posted C&D or nothing at all. We can't stop the onslaught of lawyer-grams, but we can give webmasters a place to turn if they receive one. Some have decided to fight back or ignore the threats, buoyed by the explanations they've seen at Chilling Effects; others have been able to tell their side of the story. Further, we make the database of more than 600 letters available to the public, where researchers, journalists, and even lawyers can analyze the data about the kinds of threats being made.

# Will the new position as staff attorney mean that you will discontinue being project manager of Chilling Effects?

Not at all. Moving to EFF, which is a partner in the Chilling Effects project, gives me more time to devote to Chilling Effects, including searching out additional partner law school clinics and digging into the stories behind the C&D letters. We've been able to use Chilling Effects stories too, for example in our recent brief supporting Verizon in its fight to keep Internet user data out of the hands of the RIAA, we described previous misuses of the DMCA -- showing the dangers posed by subpoenas without judicial review.

# You developed and now coordinate the Berkman Center's Openlaw project. How can Greplaw readers join the action of OpenLaw?

Openlaw has been an experiment in bringing the methods of open source software development to legal argument, and we've tried different methods with the Eldred v. Ashcroft and DeCSS (Universal v. Corley) cases. Currently, we're working to pull together the tools we've found useful, to let others experiment with technology enhancements to group discussion. We're open to suggestions for new projects.

# You maintain a weblog. What is the purpose of your blog?

I hoped it would be a place I could post short commentaries, along with running notes-to-self about sites and ideas of interest, for later expansion.

# Does it (the blog) work the way you planned?

I haven't been posting so often as I meant, because of both time crunches and overlap between my off-hours thinking about intellectual property and work at EFF. But lots of the ideas wind up in EFF writings instead.

# You are a Harvard prostiute (like Micheal sims was). How does the Berkman Center efforts fit into the big Harvard picture in your opinion? For example, Harvard has hired a trademark police and send cease and desist letters. This is far from the spirit of Chilling Effects, isn't it?

Like many other universities, Harvard seems at times to forget that education is its primary mission. Its heavy-handed copyright policy on Harvard networks, for example, seemed to put the record labels' interests first, and those of students and teachers only as an afterthought. I'd rather see them take more of a stand for academic freedom, and used my blog to write an open letter of protest at the time. The Berkman Center tries to reach out to the larger Harvard community, through efforts including H2O, teaching software made freely available to all for interdisciplinary discussions, and the Blogs@Harvard initiative, open to anyone in the Harvard and alumni community.

# If a Greplaw reader wants to pursue a career like yours, what should he or she do?

Working for EFF is a real dream job, and it's not easy to find those, but there are more and more law schools with cyberlaw clinics. I'd start by working with one of them and finding an opportunity to develop technical knowledge along with legal skill. Then find a project that lets you demonstrate ability and initiative -- for me it was Openlaw and Chilling Effects, for others it might be contributing to Greplaw or another weblog or leading an online discussion through H2O. EFF doesn't have a wine-and-dine summer associate program, but we do take interns during the year and summer (unpaid).

# I like opera, just like you do. My favourite is Mozart's Don Giovanni, conducted by Herbert von Karajan and performed by the Berlin Philarmonic Orchestra. However, I don't know that much about opera. What else do you think I should listen to?

I'd suggest some Verdi operas -- Otello and Don Carlo are among my favorites (there are magnificent recordings with Domingo in the leads). Mozart's lesser-known opera seria, Idomeno, has some wonderful arias. Unfortunately no-one offers much opera online -- peer-to-peer or pay services.

# And what shall l I tell my friends when they say I've gone crazy?

Opera is a great break from the tech world. The best opera is very low tech, un-miked voices and analog instruments -- and it's three-plus hours without email, cell phones, or multitasking! What's not to like?

Wendy Selzer was interviewed by Mikael Pawlo.

Good choice (4, Interesting)

Empiric (675968) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835249)

A lawyer with coding experience. Very nice selection for the EFF. She certainly seems to a very good perspective, based on the interview.

I would think her background would give her a decided advantage in court against opposition such as SCO's legal team. Non-technical lawyers I'd expect would be rather limited in their ability to see the proverbial trees as well as the forest, leading to egregious, easily-destroyable assertions such as SCO's claim that, in effect, "Linux" is one particular whole, when a moment's consideration from one with a technical background would suggest it's actually a very dynamic, variable thing, and that to claim all Linux deployments violate a given set of supposed "infringments" is rather absurd.

I'd expect Ms. Seltzer will be able to bring good arguments to the table on this and many other Open Source challenges. Kudos to the EFF's fine choice.

Re:Good choice (3, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835294)

A lawyer with coding experience. Very nice selection for the EFF.

Yes indeed. Thank goodness they didn't pick up a coder with lawyer experience, like Kevin Mitnick ...

No lawyer with coding experience (2, Funny)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835341)

would ever work for today's SCO.

Judging by the quality of OpenServer, I'd say no one with coding experience has worked on it for a decade.

I'd post a torrent file for my SCO discs, but they aren't worth the bandwidth.

Re:Good choice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6837502)

A lawyer with coding experience

I wonder what she looks like naked?

openlaw (4, Informative)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835296)

Seltzer used to be quite active on a couple of mailing lists dedicated to preparing legal briefs in a Universal v. Remierdes Eldred v Ashcroft and similar legal cases.The lists were (and still are) idealistic and noisy, but the legal discussion (archived by Lexis-Nexis at one point) was a lot of fun.

Re:openlaw (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835316)

Universal v. Remierdes

Yep. Univerval is thrown shit at once more ...

Yes [Re:openlaw] (1)

Sphere1952 (231666) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835532)

Wendy was good at getting us to refocus without being overbearing.

Male or female? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835305)

I just checked out some pics of "Wendy", and I'm wondering... male or female? Maybe formerly male and now female...?

Plagiarism (1, Interesting)

Safety Cap (253500) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835331)

As it happens too often here, the editor allowed through a story that is plagiarized. The submitted text was cribbed verbatim from the site (the gratuitous addition of links do not excuse the crime), which fit the definition of plagiarism [unimelb.edu.au] to a tee.

If one cannot bother to paraphrase [reference.com] , then perhaps one might consider deferring one's submission, as a courtesy to the original author. After all, some folks work hard to craft the words that we enjoy reading. Why not provide them the common courtesy of respecting their hard work?

Cheers.

Re:Plagiarism (3, Informative)

mpawlo (260572) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835380)

I think self-plagiarism is okay. After all, I am the author of both stories...

Re:Plagiarism (1)

Safety Cap (253500) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835459)

For the sake of argument, I'll assume that your account here and on Greplaw are the same person. That being the case it wouldn't necessarily be plagiarism (depends upon either sites' policy), but as a courtesy to your readers, it would have been helpful to have some sort of disclaimer, or words to the effect of "As I mentioned in my post at Greplaw..."

In effect, you crossposted and you didn't add any value to the post here. Why even post the link to GrepLaw, when you could've crossposted the entire article (the Q&A) here?

Re:Plagiarism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835596)

That is an idiotic argument.

It is nearly impossible to plagiarize oneself (I'll agree you can crib part of your article somewhere else, but frankly this is a poor example).

Just apologize for being wrong and obnoxious. Or go away

Re:Plagiarism (1)

mpawlo (260572) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835684)

"For the sake of argument, I'll assume that your account here and on Greplaw are the same person."

Paranoid are we?
There is only one of us and that's me. Your point is null and void since one can not plagiarize oneself. I could be in breach of contract should I have promised to Greplaw to not submit the intro to any other website (which I have not), but one can never plagiarize oneself.

Since you have falsely accused me of plagiarism I have a hard time taking lessons from you on 'courtesy', but I will be a good sport and I will try to rephrase my future submissions to Slashdot if others agree with your position.

Mikael

Re:Plagiarism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6836043)

"For the sake of argument, I'll assume that your account here and on Greplaw are the same person."

Paranoid are we?


Considering how many Bruce Perens impostors there were here, he may not be.

Other than that, you are spot on.

Re:Plagiarism (1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 10 years ago | (#6839137)

Since you have falsely accused me of plagiarism I have a hard time taking lessons from you on 'courtesy', but I will be a good sport and I will try to rephrase my future submissions to Slashdot if others agree with your position.

His position is about as nonexistent as a position gets. Please save your valuable time for something useful.

Re:Plagiarism (1)

scubacuda (411898) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835492)

I'm guilty of that too, Mikael. :)

Typical Slashdot Integrity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835384)

What do you expect from Michael Sims? He is the one who stole someone else's work [spectacle.org] and made it his own.

Re:Plagiarism (1)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835477)

Luckily, most of us don't attend the University of Melbourne. Usually, readers stop trying to impose academic discipline on ./ right around, say, day one.

More pics plz! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835373)

She has nice, pipe-fitter lips. No disrespect, but trust me, my boy. There's two things I'm good at. That's pulling dents, and spottin' good blow jobs. And that sweetie has world-class blow job lips. Am I right, skipper?

Re:More pics plz! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835885)

Nice Sopranos reference!

Re:More pics plz! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6836125)

She has nice, pipe-fitter lips. No disrespect, but trust me, my boy. There's two things I'm good at. That's pulling dents, and spottin' good blow jobs. And that sweetie has world-class blow job lips. Am I right, skipper?

Well, studies have shown that the more educated a person is, the more oral sex they tend to give/receive. Given she is a graduate of Harvard Law School (pretty hard to be more educated than that), well, you get the picture... practice makes perfect. ;)

What the? (2, Funny)

helix400 (558178) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835442)

from the need-a-brane-for-my-master dept.

Heh, ya michael, I do think you need one.

Haven't read the article, but (1)

Sphere1952 (231666) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835507)

Wendy was really sharp on the dvd-discuss mailing list. Good for her.

More Info (0)

DorkHead (696720) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835602)

Here is some more background information on our new fighter:

Her BLOG [seltzer.org]
Her homepage [seltzer.org]
Her Harvard homepage [harvard.edu]
and her Picture [mccullagh.org]

test (0, Redundant)

diesel66 (254283) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835629)

testhttp://www.apple.com/server/clustering.html

What??! (1)

jvollmer (456588) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835874)

She doesn't mention Rigoletto?
What sort of savage is she?


If it's not Consolidated Lint, it's just fuzz.

wow, for a lawyer (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6835937)

...she's pretty cute [earthlink.net] .

:)

Where's her picture? (1)

dbullock (32532) | more than 10 years ago | (#6835949)

Well?

It HAS to be said... (1)

kzinti (9651) | more than 10 years ago | (#6836085)

"A little song
A little dance
A little seltzer
Down your pants"

--Chuckles the Clown, Mary Tyler Moore show, funniest episode ever.

Score: -1, Tasteless

In the long run, we're all dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6838219)

If she really believes that crap about things looking up in the long term, she's going to die an angry, bitter old woman waiting for that long term to come. The EFF is King Canute railing against the tide.

Just like in Thailand... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6838981)

Simple: tell everywhere you are ready to switch to open source, and you will get better prices from MS. There are so many (sometimes) good free (open) OS, its hard to believe this kind of declaration. Don't trust them, it all about propaganda...
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