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Sunday Newspapers, Now With CDs

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the 1045-free-hours dept.

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VirtualUK writes "The BBC news site has a story today about The Times news paper now distributing a CD along with the tree mass that comes with its Sunday edition. They cite that one of the main reasons is that Internet connection speeds have still yet to catch up on the whole in order to benefit from the rich multimedia content of the CD."

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Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841522)

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Oh I get those (5, Funny)

zifty (692892) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841523)

I used to get CDs with my paper all the time. Of course, they were from AOL...

Hey!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841862)

How much would it cost to distribute a Knoppix CD with a bigger Sunday journal on newsstands?

If we cannot do it at our own expenses, how much would it cost to *sell* one such disk thru a journal ad and get it delivered to subscribers?

In any case, can we make a little money just to get this scheme working continuously?

True (2, Insightful)

Stonent1 (594886) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841529)

I remember playing pretty decent video on my 486 from a CD yet still forced to a tiny little window with garbled sound quality and badly pixelated video when trying to watch some streaming news.

Re:True (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841549)

...video on my 486 from a CD yet still forced to a tiny little window with garbled sound quality and badly pixelated video

You played Myst too?

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CD Contents? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841533)

Does it have the full text of the paper? That would be excellent...

No wonder there's only 2 reply so far (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841535)

with the sunday edition AND a multimedia cd, nobody will be done reading the news paper before next week!

Re:No wonder there's only 2 reply so far (4, Funny)

IIRCAFAIKIANAL (572786) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841700)

with the sunday edition AND a multimedia cd, nobody will be done reading the news paper before next week!

That's no excuse! Any slashdot readers won't bother reading the articles anyway - they'd just hold the paper and cd, read the headlines, and then bitch about stuff around the water cooler anyhow... ;)

Monthly, not every Sunday (5, Informative)

sinjayde (661825) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841542)

The CD will come out monthly, not every Sunday as reported in the story.

I'm surprised this hasn't happened earlier actually. Magazine's have been slapping on CDs to their publications for a long while now (especially Gaming and computer mags) and these days you can even get CD's on Breakfast Cereal boxes.

Of course, whether or not any of the information contained on the cd's will be of any use/quality is another matter.

Stuff that matters (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841543)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this appears to be a story by one news site about a single newspaper in the United Kingdom that's only published one day out of seven distributing a CD ROM on an occasional basis.

Excuse me while I dig out a list of other publications that provide a monthly CD. I'm sure there must be one or two...

Re:Stuff that matters (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841716)

Correct me if I'm wrong

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Re:Stuff that matters (5, Informative)

Charles E. Hardwidge (679096) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841718)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this appears to be a story by one news site about a single newspaper in the United Kingdom that's only published one day out of seven distributing a CD ROM on an occasional basis. Excuse me while I dig out a list of other publications that provide a monthly CD. I'm sure there must be one or two...
The Times and Sunday Times are very much the same newspaper, though they're run as two largely seperate entities under two different editors. Both are owned by Rupert Murdoch, a hideous individual who is responsible for The Thunderer's decline in quality from its heyday. It's no coincidence that The Times is no longer referred to by this affectionate term, its teeth and reliability as a newspaper of record having disappeared years ago. One ray of hope is that the close and arguably biased coverage, of the Iraq War and subsequent inquiry into events surrounding its aftermath, may provide evidence that Murdoch is in breach of the agreement with the government of the time that allowed his takeover of the newspaper. Should the case of Murdoch not granting full editorial impartiality be proven he could lose the cornerstone of his international media empire. I'm sure I'm not alone in expressing the sentiment this happens sooner rather than later.

Re:Stuff that matters (1)

mrd_yaddayadda (629895) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841845)

"Should the case of Murdoch not granting full editorial impartiality be proven he could lose the cornerstone of his international media empire. I'm sure I'm not alone in expressing the sentiment this happens sooner rather than later." Completely off-topic sentiment about to be expressed, but that would be a very very good thing.

Environmental concerns? (3, Insightful)

Negative Response (650136) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841547)

Newspaper is easily bio-degradable, I'm not sure about that of CDs. Plus you can wrap things with newspaper, but not with hard plastic.

Re:Environmental concerns? (1)

avalys (221114) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841779)

OK, I can understand that people might have environmental concerns about the excess CD production (although AOL is a far greater offender in that regard), but:

Plus you can wrap things with newspaper, but not with hard plastic.

What kind of complaint is that? How many people choose their newspaper based on how much of it they can use to wrap stuff with? If the newspaper said they'd start shipping solid gold bricks with the Sunday Edition, would you response be "I'm not too sure about that, can I use them to wrap things in?"

Pure advertising (4, Interesting)

Mwongozi (176765) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841555)

Everything on the CD is an advert for something else. You can't even get to the main menu without watching a video of a car advert.

Re:Pure advertising (2, Interesting)

Ignis Flatus (689403) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841707)

So? Someone else will just come up with a utility to block all the ads on the CD.

Very true, but... (2, Insightful)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841973)

...you have to remember who their target audience is for this venture.

The target audience certainly isn't the more technical or internet-savvy PC or Mac user (the disc is dual format), it's the PC or Mac user who hasn't used their machine for much more than word processing, light browsing and email.

The kind of people who are wary of buying from websites like CD-Wow.com [cd-wow.com] , Play.com [play.com] , etc who offer great prices simply because they don't recognise the brands that they're dealing with are far more likely to buy something from a site backed by a brand (The Sunday Times) that they are familiar and comfortable with, respect and with which they possibly have a life-long affinity. In that respect, the CD serves its purpose.

Don't for a second be under any illusion that the CD is aimed at the typical Slashdot reader. A newspaper unlike a website can't differentiate between a nethead or a newbie, and as there are more people at the newbie end of the scale then the nethead one it is natural for The Sunday Times to pitch its offering at the less technical end of the PC and Mac market.

Remember, this isn't an addition to attract people who know one end of a PCI card from the other, it's an addition to attract floating readers to this particular broadsheet newspaper as opposed to the ones next to it on the shelves.

Re:Pure advertising (1)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842062)

And how else do you think they would justify spending money on this? At least they're not raising the price of the paper to reflect this....well, to my knowledge at least.

The British are always first with everything (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841557)

Except oral hygene.

I wonder if I could subscribe from Arkansas, for either.

Already Done (5, Interesting)

someguy456 (607900) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841560)

I've seen something like this done in a neighboring city, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico (I live in El Paso, TX). The subscription rate is really low; the paper is almost completely distributed in stores and newstands. Every once in a while, the paper has a special edition contating a cd. I think it's only music for now, but it may change. The special edition costs around US$0.50 more, which is about the normal cost of the paper (Sunday doesn't cost any more). I have never heard anyone else actually mention it, so I don't think it is fairing well.

Re:Already Done (1)

ozric99 (162412) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841850)

Not quite. This is a "multimedia CD" whatever that means. Papers here (including the Sunday Times) have been including exclusive music CDs in certain editions for ages. I believe the Guardian's Sunday paper - The Observer tends to include audio CDs quite a lot these days.

That's nice (4, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841562)

Somebody should suggest they run an article on Linux, so they'd just have to stick knoppix on the CD and save on the multimediocre content creation.

Also, somebody should suggest the same idea to Playboy Magazine. They don't even need to make it fancy, just a directory with huge jpegs and another with videos ...

Re:That's nice (1)

someguy456 (607900) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841587)

When my friend was put in charge of the multimedia supplement of our high school yearbook, I joked about him just putting pictures and videos into labeled folders. Sadly, this was the case; he "didn't have time" for his plans: html navigation complete with thumbnails and tons of other fancy stuff.

Re:That's nice (1)

thynk (653762) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841666)

Also, somebody should suggest the same idea to Playboy Magazine. They don't even need to make it fancy, just a directory with huge jpegs and another with videos ...

From what I gather, Hustler has started including a DVD with theirs, at least some of them. Friend loaned it to me, just half a dozen clips from some of their video releases.

Re:That's nice (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841731)

Also, somebody should suggest the same idea to Playboy Magazine. They don't even need to make it fancy, just a directory with huge jpegs and another with videos ...

Surely you mean :

just a directory with huge jugs and another with videos

Re:That's nice (1)

Pros_n_Cons (535669) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841948)

Hmm, I'm not sure I like the idea of distributing
linux alongside things like AOL, MSN and 50,000
other types of cd's people immediatly dismiss as
junk.

besides what happens when someone pop's in the cd
and fdisks the hard drive? Not what I'd call
a good first impression

Re:That's nice (1)

orkysoft (93727) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842076)

One Word: Knoppix.

That's nice-PDF paper. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6842017)

I'm waiting for PDF distribution of the newspaper via the internet. Easier to store. Easier to throw away.

What the really mean is.. (5, Interesting)

SolubleFrank (637562) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841564)

benefit from the rich multimedia content

"suffer from the bland multimedia advertising"

Uh...Who cares? (0, Troll)

EvilSporkMan (648878) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841569)

Seriously...this sure isn't very nerdy, nor does it matter, nor is it interesting...what is it doing on /.?

Re:Uh...Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841667)

It's Sunday. Sundays are slow. And the article is about Sunday newspapers. My god, it'd be practically criminal NOT to have gone with the story.

Do what I do: any time you see a slashdot story that seems boring or pointless, just remember some past zingers and think how much worse it could be.

Re:Uh...Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841685)


Seriously...this sure isn't very nerdy, nor does it matter, nor is it interesting...what is it doing on /.?

neither is your comment, maybe you should ask yourself what are YOU doing on /. ?

Re:Uh...Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841861)

Reloading it incessantly... ;)

Re:Uh...Who cares? (1)

scrote-ma-hote (547370) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841797)

You know that involves data CDs right. In my day, that was pretty nerdy. And multimedia content. I remember getting excited about encarta.

Re:Uh...Who cares? (1)

Random Data (538955) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842002)

I remember getting excited about encarta.
Do we want to know which entries you were looking at?

Pffft ... CD Newspaper (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841570)

Gonna be awkward trying to read the news while I'm on the throne.

Re:Pffft ... CD Newspaper (1)

Tsali (594389) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841644)

TV Tray + wireless-enabled notebook = paperless newspaper.

Re:Pffft ... CD Newspaper (3, Funny)

EverDense (575518) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841683)

Gonna be awkward trying to read the news while I'm on the throne.

Holy shit! Prince Harry reads Slashdot.

Re:Pffft ... CD Newspaper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841825)

MPU!

Re:Pffft ... CD Newspaper (4, Funny)

IIRCAFAIKIANAL (572786) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841726)

Didn't you get your iLoo yet? Or at least hack your own together? (look honey, I duct taped a laptop to the bathroom wall! Isn't it cool!!?)

Re:Pffft ... CD Newspaper (1)

Mattcelt (454751) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841902)

Gonna be awkward trying to read the news while I'm on the throne.

...and damn, plastic is a whole lot less absorbent!

Two mediums = bad (5, Insightful)

TheAntiCrust (620345) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841573)

Other than a few media clips the CD doesnt contain anything different from a normal newspaper. I think distributing the same thing in two mediums is annoying. I either want to read the paper, or watch a video. The short clips on the CD are easily available online too. The only place it makes sense to me to put a CD is on computer or game magazines where the CD content (game demos and apps) cannot be duplicated by 'traditional' means. Adding a CD to the paper makes it clumsy.

Two mediums = bad grammar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841676)

The plural of medium is media, d'uh. As if you don't read the word enough to have it drilled into your head.

Good luck (4, Interesting)

Safety Cap (253500) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841577)

This will last a few months, then they'll figure out that the required tech support ("No, ma'am, you need Quicktime!") and the cost of burning and stuffing will not result in additional sales.

The Marketing Drone that thought of this baby will be canned and sent back to Publix [publixdirect.com] or wherever he came from.

Re:Good luck (1)

KFK - Wildcat (512842) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842023)

My guess is that the Times doesn't really care about the CDs, as long as their advertisers are willing to pay big bucks for new multimedia ads...
The paper surely covers easily all the CD-related expenses by those new ads anyway.

good news!! (2, Interesting)

0x12d3 (623370) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841586)

That's good news for the trees, I hope the CD's are recycleable. This reminds me, I get really annoyed when I see a big stack of phone books lying around, that no one really wants. How long do you guys think it'll be 'til phone books go CD for standard (/common)distribution method? I'd much prefer grepping for pizza than flipping through hundreds of pages.

Re:good news!! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841693)

Why do you imagine that including the CD will in any way cut down on the amount of newsprint in the paper? I'd expect just the opposite. Anytime a notion like this suggests itself, just think "paperless office".

As for CDs being recyclable, even if they were (which they're not particularly), how would you gather them up after distributing them to every Sunday Times reader? Really the best way to "recycle" useless crap is before it's diffused out into the world.

Basically, does this need to exist? If the Sunday Times has trouble continuing without the extra ad revenue, does their business model still make sense?

Re:good news!! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841737)

Most newspapers are already made from recycled paper, and in most places there's usually a pretty good system for recycling again.

Old or unwanted CDs on the other hand generally get tossed in the land fill. Not to mention the nasty chemicals required to make the plastic in the first place.

Re:good news!! (1)

bash_jeremy (703211) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842079)

Awhile ago, someone was selling a phonebook on a CD. I don't remember what happened to it. It seems like such a great idea.

But anyways, I don't think this CD thing is such a good idea, if what everyone else says is true, that the CD doesn't really have anything of value on it, and it's not recyclable, then it's just gonna add to the waste that a newspaper does (a fair amount of people don't recycle newspapers).

Sunday Times != The Times (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841589)

It's a nitpick, but... I'm pretty sure The Times and the Sunday
Times are two seperate newspapers. The Sunday paper isn't the
Sunday edition of the daily, it's another paper altogether.

Old Idea... (1)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841595)

One of the online course delivery systems I work with has a "CDROM Tool" that allows the instructor to specify a directory, mirror the filenames/paths of the CD in it with empty files, and distribute a CD. The student then sets a preference that says "my cd-rom is located at d:\" or /mnt/cdrom or whatever a mac uses. Any references to files in the CD directory are then re-written to point to the end users CD drive, saving bandwidth, etc.

sure... (0, Offtopic)

Comsn (686413) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841596)

but where can i download the iso?

Why not include CD-RWs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841608)

That way once the info is no longer needed, one can reuse the CD.

Re:Why not include CD-RWs? (1)

Cliffy03 (663924) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841961)

Now that you mention it, I miss AOL floppies.

sweeet.... (2, Funny)

jr87 (653146) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841611)

more coasters

Nothing new (1)

David_R (118153) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841639)

This is nothing new. I have CDs I got from Sunday papers in the UK from a couple of years ago. They are mostly music CDs, but some also have "embedded multimedia" (read: Flash interfaces to Quicktime files).

Re:Nothing new (1)

Loosewire (628916) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841712)

window on the world??

Never underestimate (4, Funny)

The Famous Brett Wat (12688) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841645)

The cite that one of the main reasons is that internet connection speeds have still yet to catch up on the whole in order to benefit from the rich multimedia content of the CD.

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a paper-boy on a bicycle.

Re:Never underestimate (1)

Stephen Samuel (106962) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841969)

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a paper-boy on a bicycle.
or:
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a van full of newspapers.

Yay editing! (1)

jmt9581 (554192) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841659)

The cite that one of the main reasons is that internet connection speeds have still yet to catch up on the whole in order to benefit from the rich multimedia content of the CD.

Seriously, what do I pay you people for anyways? :P

Re:Yay editing! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841690)

And don't forget "it's Sunday edition". Got to have at least one incorrect apostrophe in every post. But help is at hand:

I'll have a CD-only subscription please. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841661)

If the weekly CD contained all the news for the week, (in both plaintext and html please, none of that pdf crap) I'd sign up for just that, and skip the dead trees.

No more CD's please! (5, Interesting)

Kegetys (659066) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841674)

I prefer to have things available online these days rather than having them on a CD. I have hundreds and hundreds of CD's stacked up everywhere, and its becoming slower to find something small from those cd's than find and download it from the net. Especially the CD's that came with a magazine get useless quite fast as the things there get old, and the process of finding the cd and listening to the loud cd drive reading it is far less comfortable than just finding and using the same content from the internet.

I find it more interesting to have access to magazine articles from the net after subscribing. That way the content is always available from almost anywhere in addition to the paper magazine.

About cd drive loudness (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841923)

Actually they write on the box how loud the drive is in units of "X". Aim for a low X value like 8X or 12X and you should be OK.

Re:No more CD's please! (0, Offtopic)

DashEvil (645963) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842020)

I don't know about you, but my 52X CD-Rom, 48x24x48x burner, and 16x DVD-Rom are silent as fuck.

No more CD's please!-Theme music. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6842034)

"I don't know about you, but my 52X CD-Rom, 48x24x48x burner, and 16x DVD-Rom are silent as fuck."

Sounds like you're not doing it right.

Enviromentally friendly ? (2, Interesting)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841675)

The BBC news site has a story today about The Times news paper now distributing a CD along with the tree mass that comes with it's Sunday edition.

are cds more enviromentally friendly ?, aren't plastics created from oil ?. At least trees can grow back.

Re:Enviromentally friendly ? (4, Funny)

wackybrit (321117) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841721)

aren't plastics created from oil ?. At least trees can grow back.

Most experiments in producing wooden CDs have failed miserably, except for Madonna's latest album which was both wooden and sold heaps.

Not sure (1)

bluGill (862) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841792)

I'd need to compare the cost of making a CD with the cost of making paper and ink, and printing them. Many newspapers (I don't know about NYT, there are a lot of different presses) are printed with a photographic mythod, where the paper is printed from a film negative, and that requires a darkroom and all that chemicals, plus the energy to run the press, plus the energy and polution in making paper, plus the energy and polution in making ink.

I have no idea what the values for any of the above is, much less how you would add them up.

Re:Not sure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841932)

Try this tree-hugger math

1+1 = bush be a chimp

2+2 = dean's lies are just 'mistakes'

1+2 = set suvs on fire to help environment

Re:Enviromentally friendly ? (1)

sdkramer (411640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841949)

Um. Trees grow back...if planted.

Oil comes back when stuff dies.

Either way I wanna know when they start giving me coupons on DVD or cdrom. :)

Re:Enviromentally friendly ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6842056)

That's okay, I'm sure Bush will give Blair a share of the looted Iraqi oil, since you Brits were good enough to help us liberate it.

Audio CD? (3, Interesting)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841692)

A few months ago I read about how a San Fran newspaper was providing an audio CD so you can listen in the car. I like that idea.

Taking that idea a step further, I wish Avant-Go would do something like that. I'd like to synch my PocketPC in the morning, then plug it into my car's audio so I can listen to fresh news on the way in.

Um, listen to the car radio instead? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841745)

Talk about a Rube Goldberg way of doing something. There are news stations on the radio, just listen to them! How hard is this?

Re:Um, listen to the car radio instead? (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841881)

"Talk about a Rube Goldberg way of doing something. There are news stations on the radio, just listen to them! How hard is this? "

You mean the news that happens every 10 minutes? That's great except it only takes me 10 minutes to get to work. I get the news like 2 days out of the week because of this.

There's a little thing us modern people like to call 'on-demand'. That's why devices like TiVo are popular.

Take longer to get to work then. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841901)

Geez. Seriously, how do you get through life?

Re:Take longer to get to work then. (0)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842018)

"Geez. Seriously, how do you get through life? " ...said the close minded guy posting anonymously.

TROLL ALERT - MOD PARENT DOWN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6842046)

j.

Re:Audio CD? (1)

seligman (58880) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842063)

That's what Audible [audible.com] is for. It's not free like AvantGo, but you can get news and talk to your PocketPC and listen to it during your commute.

I do it, and despite the quirky software Audible uses, it's nice. A lot better than the spotty radio around here, and like TiVo, I'm not stuck to someone's broadcast schedule.

lets face it.... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841715)

it will be a M$ windows XXX only version and have a click through and DMCA warning for *nix/MAC users.

so you will not be able to get the paper virsion and you will only be able to read the cd version if you run the latest M$ windowzzzzzzzzz....

drinlk that with your coffeee :)

New York Times Subjectivity (-1, Offtopic)

ShawnMcCool42 (557138) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841743)

The Times use to be the standard for responsible print media. Unfortunately, that is no longer the case. The New York Times has become a tool for liberal media to use in defimation of conservative politics. Jason Blair is only one example of completely fabricated stories which were syndicated to over 650 media outlets around the globe. The Blair scandal has shown us that the management of the NYT is very much interested in pressuring it's (i'm sure mostly willing) reporters to sensationalize anti-conservative news. They create leading polls and then report on them in their own papers slanting the results in a distinct and predict pattern. Wether you're conservative or liberal it's VITAL to wake up to the dangers of sensationalized media. Your beliefs should be strong enough to hold up to honest reporting, nobody stands to win with fabrication and lies filling the minds of those who are simply not aware of the media agenda.

Remember, Liberals don't hold Blacks... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841776)

...to scrutiny. When it comes to holding a Black to equal standards, a Liberal has no spine. When's the last time you saw that DemocRAT Bill Clinton (or his whorish wife) ever call a Black on his speech when he spouted something racist? The silence is deafening.

Re:New York Times Subjectivity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841866)

I know you're a troll and I shouldn't bother responding, but you do realize that this isn't the New York Times we're talking about here, right? The Times (and The Sunday Times) is a British newspaper. Duh.

Slashdot Editors Are Clueless (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841787)

Look at this boner:
"along with the tree mass that comes with it's Sunday edition"
Third grade students are taught that the word "it's" is NOT the possessive form of the word "it". Did all you dorks skip the third grade or did you sleep through it?

CD's are not Biodegradable. (3, Insightful)

reporter (666905) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841842)

Unlike newspapers, compact discs (CDs) are not biodegradable and will contribute to the mountains of trash that Western societies already generate. Surely, Westerners can tolerate a bit of lag in an Internet connection to "The Times" newspaper in order to save the environment.

Forget the CD. The environment comes first.

... from the desk of the reporter [geocities.com]

bad implementation (2, Insightful)

doodleboy (263186) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841858)

An obvious attempt to find a new channel that more closely couples the advertisements and the content. I can see how the marketer-droids at the Times would want this, since with normal webpages it's so easy to run proxies [privoxy.org] that strip all the ads out. But here you have to endure entire commercials before you can even get to the menu. I bet half the people who look at it are going to shitcan the thing right there, never to try it again.

It kind of defeats the purpose of finding new eyeballs for ads if the implementation is so cumbersome and painful that it drives people away. Will these people ever learn?

Great.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841867)

More CDs to add to my AOL CD collection!

CD Contents (5, Informative)

bobbis.u (703273) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841892)

I have the CD in front of me and for those that care, this is some of the stuff it contains:
  • Lots of renault adverts
  • Feature on David Bowie
  • Film trailers (with a small write up): Calender Girls, Gigli, Le Divorce, Italian Job, Matchstick Men, Ned Kelly, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Young Adam
  • DVD trailers: Antwone Fisher, Bulletproof monk, City Of God, Evelyn, Maid in Manhatten, National security
  • Music (few short samples, CD writeup): David Bowie, Elvis Costello, Dido, Seal, Placebo, Starsailer, + about 10 others
  • Few arts features: Andrew Lloyd Webber's paintings, Opera, Ballet stuff
  • Game trailers: Colin McRae Rally 04, Crimson Skies, Great Escape, Italian Job, Rugby '04
  • Few kids games and DVD trailers
  • Best of TV guide
  • What's on listings for your area (requires internet)

The loader is quite slick, but unfortunately it has been made with flash and took an age to load the first time on my machine.
As an asside you also got a code with the cd cover to see if you had won 1000gbp. I was tempted to write a program to brute it because it was only 3 letters (all ucase) and 4 numbers, but you also need to send in the cover to claim the prize...

In other words, no news on the CD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841914)

It's just a promo disk?

Re:In other words, no news on the CD? (1)

bobbis.u (703273) | more than 10 years ago | (#6841942)

There is no news on the cd, but you did get a newspaper paper 1" thick, free with the CD, all for about $2.

I have also just noticed that it links to here [mvc.co.uk] where you can buy all the CDs featured. How is that for a little diversifying?

Re:CD Contents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6842042)

As an asside you also got a code with the cd cover to see if you had won 1000gbp.

Why the code? So the CD can create a browser cookie and associate your machine with your name and physical address?

You completely inhale the pastes in crust (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841958)

It has come to my attention that you completely inhale the pastes in crust. Read on for more about this fascinating topic.

The world went into shock a few weeks ago when goatse.info [goatse.info] reported the results of a study which concluded that inhaling paste is a very dangerous pastime, one that no one is advised to take up. Eventually, everyone adapted to the new state of affairs and began inhaling other things. Almost everyone, that is. But not you! According to my records, you still inhale paste!

Why?! What the fuck is wrong with you?!

You moron, you idiot, you imbecile, you gay nigger! Arg! You make me so fucking sick! FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.

I will inhale what the fuck I want. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6841987)

Including paste. FUCK OFF!!!

1st ps0t 4 teh ELDARS OV ZION (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6842031)

Fux0r teh palesitnians! AraFAT is teh ghey!!!

UK internet too slow? (1)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842048)

The question of the day is, can you download a CD's worth of material over dialup? The answer is YES. Would you want to? Depends on who you are!

650megs would take about 26hours at 56K assuming conditions were ideal. Ideal conditions are clean line and zmodem transfer from a shell account mind you, but you get the picture.

Reality wise, 28.8k to 33.6 are more realistic speeds for most people... about 43 - 50 hours..

Ok, so between 26 and 50 hours to transfer a CD over standard dialup a connection.

-----------

For a weekly newspaper subscription, this is not exactly *where it's at*. For a monthly subscription though, it could be. Assuming you can actually provide your content in roughly 325 megs... This would cut our estimates down to 13-25hours. Such a document could easily be retrieved if you downloaded something for a week at between 2-4hours a day connect time.

This is by NO means terrific, but I can see it as being do able for a monthly publication of somesort.

Favourite comment from the page... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6842058)

I have large picture windows in my living room
and birds keep flying into them, usually breaking
their necks - it's most distressing. However, I
find that if I hang the Sunday Times CD ROM on a
string outside the window they stay well clear.

Thank you, Sunday Times!
Jean, UK

have still yet to catch up ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6842061)


"...have still yet to catch up ..."

Is that like, a triple-negative?

Never underestimate the bandwidth of the USPS (1)

dbryson (2401) | more than 10 years ago | (#6842073)

Really, you should never underestimate the bandwidth of a CD or whatever sent through the USPS or a 1976 Pinto. The 1976 Pinto makes broadband look like a joke.
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