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Self-Parking Car Available In Japan

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the or-try-the-monster-truck-parking-method dept.

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sinjayde writes "Yahoo!/Reuters is reporting that Toyota has released a car for sale in Japan that is able to park itself: 'Toyota's new hybrid gasoline-electric Prius sedan uses electrically operated power steering and sensors that help guide the car when reversing into parking spaces.'" No need to rely on the reverse parking formula anymore?

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Car will go blind... (-1, Troll)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846108)

...parking itself all the time. I think rumor has it the front tires are hairy too.

Re:Car will go blind... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846209)

Troll? Ok...

Parent not a troll, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846261)

mildly funny

It had to be done... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846113)

In Soviet Russia, car parks you!

Re:It had to be done... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846377)

Apparently the Japanese are learning from the Soviet Union. Now that's scary.

Wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846116)

Imagine a beowulf cluster of these

A dumb question (1, Interesting)

AnimeFreak (223792) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846117)

Would you get a "fail" if you used this feature during your driving examination? I managed to pass it, but for those who cannot seem to master parallel parking, this must be a boon.

hmm, not so sure.... (4, Funny)

mut3 (634239) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846118)

you still gonna do some work here, since it only helps you back in. so, if you hit the car next to you, dont blame it on the car (like you normally do)!!

dependency (4, Funny)

djshake (670753) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846119)

what happens when we forget how to park cars ourselves? technology is good, but people are getting too darn lazy these days. is parking really that hard? survey says: only for old people

Re:dependency (0, Flamebait)

bsharitt (580506) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846171)

and women

*ducks*

Re:dependency (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846346)

> and women

> *ducks*

Why duck? Do you suppose there are women here?

Re:dependency (1)

wo1verin3 (473094) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846286)

>> is parking really that hard?

I'd like you to meet my girlfriends mom if you ever make it up to Canada. The money spent on this option will be made up in reduced insurance costs fairly quickly. (not that it matters, but she is asian)

Re:dependency (1, Insightful)

mikey13 (458907) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846287)

What happens when we forget how to drive a stick-shift? Oh wait, most young people have, and it's not a big issue.

Re:dependency (0, Offtopic)

MTgeekMAN (700406) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846315)

I am 19 and I also refuse to drive an automatic. most automatics get worse gas milage and less power to the tires(engines are the same but more power loss in the transmition.) but I do agree with you most people my age would destroy a manual in less than an hour just because they dont know how to drive one *Cough* my Sister *cough* :)

Re:dependency (0, Offtopic)

satanami69 (209636) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846352)

Let me have an hour with your sister.

Re:dependency (1)

Alizarin Erythrosin (457981) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846308)

Obviously you've never been on a college campus. I've seen people overhanging spots, making it impossible to park in the one next to them... or being so crooked that you can't get into or out the spots on EITHER side. From the looks of it, the "new generation" of drivers (and some of the "current" generation... people 30+, etc) don't park well as it is. And yet, if I break their windshield with a brick, I am the one to get in trouble.

Plus my mom can't back a car into her driveway in a straight manner to save her life. I guess this would be nice to have for those places where you need to back into a parking spot to load something in the trunk. I'd say it would be useful, as it appears it would leave room around the car for people to get in and out.

Re:dependency (3, Interesting)

Gogl (125883) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846338)

And here's the irony: I agree with you that the only possible justified use of these sorts of driving-aid devices would be to help old people (although maybe I'm just callous because I generally think that if they're too old to drive they just shouldn't be driving), but only the young people will be willing to use them. Hell, I'm not even that old and I wouldn't trust some sort of auto-parking thing. Only people who are young when it comes out and grow up with it will be used to it and willing to use it themselves.

I bet it was the same thing with automatic transmission at first. A car changing gears on it's own, many of the people who were only used to manual probably didn't particularly want to make the switch. Some will switch, but the vast majority of the transition depends on time.

Or to make a long story short, new technology can take upwards of a generation to really assimilate into society. But you probably knew that anyway, I just felt like pointing that out as it seemed pertinent or something.

You don't know what dependency is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846397)

It's hilarious that you are worried about a dependency on a new technology causing us to lose our ability to use a slightly-less-new technology.

technology is good, but people are getting too darn lazy these days. is walking really that hard? survey says: only for old people

Obviously the car is male (-1, Flamebait)

egg troll (515396) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846120)

Everyone knows a female car would be unable to park at all!

The article text to avoid /. effect: (-1, Redundant)

earthforce_1 (454968) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846121)

Car That Can Park Itself Put on Sale by Toyota
Mon Sep 1, 7:04 AM ET

Add Technology - Reuters to My Yahoo!

TOKYO (Reuters) - A car that can park itself without the driver having to touch the steering wheel, said by maker Toyota Motor Corp. (news - web sites) to be a world first, went on sale in Japan on Monday.

Reuters Photo

Toyota's new hybrid gasoline-electric Prius sedan uses electrically operated power steering and sensors that help guide the car when reversing into parking spaces.

Toyota President Fujio Cho sat in the driver's seat at a demonstration laid on for the press, surprising reporters by holding his hands up as the car quickly parked itself.

"I forgot to put on the brake," Cho said. "But it's easy."

The new Prius five-seat passenger model is said by Toyota to be more fuel-efficient and cheaper than its predecessors. Rivals General Motors Corp and Ford Motor Co will launch their first hybrids later this year.

Toyota said it expects to sell 76,000 new Prius worldwide in 2004, counting on growing demand for environment-friendly cars.

The sales target is more than double the annual figure for the Prius for the past two years of around 28,000 units. Toyota, the world's third-largest auto maker, has sold about 120,000 of the cars since its launch in December 1997.

"Development of eco-friendly cars is a key to our future growth strategy," Cho told reporters.

Toyota aims to sell 36,000 units at home, 35,000-36,000 in the United States and 4,000-5,000 in rest of the world next year, he said.

The new model sells for 2.15 million yen ($18,430) in Japan, against 2.18 million yen previously. The intelligent park assist system is offered as an option, at an additional cost of 230,000 yen which includes a DVD navigation system. Toyota has set itself a goal of producing 300,000 of the eco-friendly hybrid vehicles a year by 2005 or 2006.

GOATSEX LINK IN PARENT! MOD DOWN! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846131)

Please mod the karma whoring troll down. Thank you.

Re:The article text to avoid /. effect: (4, Funny)

AdEbh (468372) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846150)

Thanks for that. 'Cause you know Yahoo gets /.ed every time.

- ebh

FUCKED UP MODERATION (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846200)

If you're modding parent of this post up, then you must think he's right. If you're modding the parent poster up, then you must think he's right.

What the fuck? Moderators are horrible, horrible creatures. They can't really *do* anything at all.

Re:FUCKED UP MODERATION (1)

AdEbh (468372) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846238)

I was being sarcastic.

- ebh

OK Asshole. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846154)

I'm sure Yahoo is really going to get slashdotted.

Go fuck yourself, you disgusting karma whore.

Re:The article text to avoid /. effect: (1)

serial frame (236591) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846205)

At first, it looked like the first sentence said "Car That Can Park Put Itself Up For Sale." It's probably just me, but I think a car that can put itself up for sale is probably more eloquent than one that can't.

Re:The article text to avoid /. effect: (0, Redundant)

phoxix (161744) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846208)

This is blatant karma-whoring

When was the last time yahoo got slashdotted ?

Sunny Dubey

Re:The article text to avoid /. effect: (0)

earthforce_1 (454968) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846220)

Except I don't need to Karma whore, mine is maxed out already. Have a nice labour day. ;-)

Re:The article text to avoid /. effect: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846304)

This is blatant karma-whoring

So you admit complaining-about-a-hypothetical-karma-whore karma whoring?

Re:The article text to avoid /. effect: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846306)

When was the last time yahoo got slashdotted ?

probably the day you didn't plagarize a previous post.

Moderators, GOATSE redirect in URL. Mods on crack! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846342)

Who in their right mind would mod that up instead of checking the content first?

This reminds me of a troll that would post an informative URL, let it get modded to +5, then as the webmaster change the webpage pointed to by the URL to the GOATSE man and back and forth to fool moderators and especialy alienate slashdot's readers.

This is dispicable! Slashcode should at-least register a checksum so a warning could be placed on the forum if a webpage is modified, or at-least check for the GOATSE man with some good Optical Picture Recognition (OPR).

driving test. (5, Funny)

woodchip (611770) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846122)

1. buy car that can park it self
2. sell driving lesson school for people who are afraid to parallel park on driving test. with the promise they can use car on the test.
3. ????
4. profit.

Re:driving test. (5, Informative)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846252)

sell driving lesson school for people who are afraid to parallel park on driving test. with the promise they can use car on the test.

In some states, it is no longer a requirement to know how to parallel park in order to get a license. Therefore, even though I've been driving for two years, I still can't parallel park.

Sad but true.

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Who pays? (5, Interesting)

moehoward (668736) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846126)

Will your insurance company pick it up if you (I mean it) damages another car?

In the US, these have to pass some rigorous gov't inspection and testing before they are allowed on the road. I don't think I want the liability.

Is parking really that hard? Are people really that stupid and lazy? Don't answer that. Can I get a robot to feed me my cereal in the morning?

Re:Who pays? (4, Interesting)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846147)

The way liability insurance is structured, you pay regardless. Anyone, and by logical extension, anything you grant control of the car is covered by your policy.

I don't think you will have the option of recovering damages from the manufacturer. You ultimately pulled the switch that told the car to auto-park.

Re:Who pays? (5, Insightful)

LetterJ (3524) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846191)

This is why I don't think we'll see cars driving themselves in the U.S. any time soon. They've built the vehicles so they can handle the freeway without a driver (some documentary I saw). However, even if the rate of accidents with self-driving/parking vehicles is lower than with real drivers (and I'd tend to believe it could be) even 1 accident would launch liability lawsuits galore.

highways and magnets (4, Interesting)

doormat (63648) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846335)

The freeway you're talking about is Interstate 15 near San Diego, CA. They built a single lane, multi-mile segment on the inside median, with magnets under the road every 100'. The car would be programed to follow the magnets and make course corrections. There were also ultrasonic sensors on the front and back. The demo had 3 cars at 100mph, 10' apart with the system engaged.

Re:Who pays? (2, Insightful)

wonton_mein (568555) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846236)

"even 1 accident would launch liability lawsuits galore."

In that case, the state can adopt a no-fault policy, thus eliminating frivolous lawsuits and those "middlemen".

Parking is easy (5, Funny)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846127)

Now find me a car that can FIND parking by itself. That I will pay money for.

Re:Parking is easy (4, Funny)

whiteranger99x (235024) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846172)

Now find me a car that can FIND parking by itself. That I will pay money for.

Thats an easy enough solution...just get yourself a tank and parking problems will be a thing of the past ;)

Re:Parking is easy (4, Funny)

rmohr02 (208447) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846219)

Buy a UPS truck. You can park those things anywhere.

Re:Parking is easy (1)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846405)

I looked into buying a UPS truck and you can't do it. When the trucks get a certain age (25 I think) they're disassembled and the usable parts and made into a new truck. Pretty efficient system.

-B

Re:Parking is easy (1)

Dark Lord Seth (584963) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846280)

Ever heard of trains? Sure, getting a ticket for one of those might cost you some vital organs and a trip to the local pawn shop, but all that can be ignored by abusi- er, hmm... putting my student's card to "creative use". I've never had any problems with some Toyota in the parking spot of a train and I highly doubt it ever would be a problem were it to happen anyways.

Re:Parking is easy (2, Funny)

pyros (61399) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846347)

It's called a Canyonero.

Re:Parking is easy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846356)

Just wear your fursuit in public. Everyone will scatter.

Good for Toyota (2, Interesting)

Ugodown (665450) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846128)

I have been impressed with Toyota's tack record in terms of innovation. Energy friendly cars were just the beginning, now integrating technology like this into cars will really make them sell. A far cry from what is being done with American and European cars (exept for the energy part).

self merging cars,... (3, Insightful)

epicstruggle (311178) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846129)

what we now need are cars that merge onto highways for us. Just like how fighter planes take off without the need of pilot input. I dont think many drivers would go for a car that drives for them, but something that makes merging into fast/dangerous traffic would be greatly appreciated.

later,
epic

Re:self merging cars,... (5, Insightful)

bfields (66644) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846195)

what we now need are cars that merge onto highways for us.

Unfortunately merging is one of the maneuvers that requires the most communication; in busy traffic you really have to negotiate with the other people on the road--signal and move over a little, watch to see if the approaching driver acknowledges you, and then, depending on the reaction, either move over a little more or retreat and wait for the next gap.

Exactly the sort of procedure I'd imagine to be most difficult to automate....

--Bruce Fields

Re:self merging cars,... (1)

fucksl4shd0t (630000) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846255)

Unfortunately merging is one of the maneuvers that requires the most communication; in busy traffic you really have to negotiate with the other people on the road--signal and move over a little, watch to see if the approaching driver acknowledges you, and then, depending on the reaction, either move over a little more or retreat and wait for the next gap.

How about a radar? I'd like a radar, personally. It'd be a heck of a lot more useful than mirrors, and could be really helpful when vision is impaired for some reason or other (fog, busy street, etc).

Re:self merging cars,... (1)

sklib (26440) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846240)

Actually I'd prefer it the other way.

Merging into traffic is one of the exciting parts of my morning commute -- sort of a game to see how far forward I can get ahead of the traffic, and still weasel cleanly in. Same thing with changing lanes at just the right time. Even if a machine could do a better job than me, I would still rather do it myself.

What I want is a car that will automatically stay a couple of car lengths behind the guy in front, and just sit there and stay in the lane so I can read a book or something, and I believe we are at least some of the way there (intelligent cruise control).

Re:self merging cars,... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846281)

The technology is called a Mustang Cobra ;)

Old News! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846132)

I read about this yesterday! And some of you are actually paying for this stuff?

About time.. (-1, Flamebait)

The Old Burke (679901) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846133)

...especially when you think about the fact that this is a car that's aimed towards women.
I'm not joking it's actually true.

Re:About time.. (-1, Flamebait)

ThunderRiver (634589) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846153)

You sick racial maggot

Re:About time.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846175)

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GOOD! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846134)

They need this in Japan because ASIANS CAN'T DRIVE!

The real question (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846138)

How lazy CAN we get?

Re:The real question (4, Funny)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846166)

How lazy CAN we get?

Robots to auto-post to Slashdot?

Re:The real question (1)

CoolRay (526069) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846350)

Sigh... we're already there -- see Google News!

Obvious joke (4, Funny)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846140)

What happens when the system crashes? :)

obvious answer (2, Funny)

rootofevil (188401) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846250)

then the rest of it crashes too, duh.

BBC Story (4, Informative)

Arc04 (601196) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846143)

Here is the BBC's take [bbc.co.uk] on the same story.

The technology for this was shown off months ago - I saw the story. I am glad it is finally being released to the public.

Not new (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846162)

This is not new. I've seen a similar system nearly 12 years ago used by a handicapped photographer at my high school. His car was retrofitted with a very similar system that would park the car by itself.

I can't say I... (4, Interesting)

bob670 (645306) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846163)

really enjoy driving anymore as it is, and with most major metros (and smaller metros as well) experiencing some level of gridlock, I drive as little as possible in areas where this would be of any real use. I know we are talking about a car company, but I would rather see this kind of effort go in to public transportation/mass transit.

Re:I can't say I... (1)

r_cerq (650776) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846206)

I would rather see this kind of effort go in to public transportation/mass transit
What, like a bus that actually gets there on time, has a seat for you, it's driver has change for your ticket fare, and doesn't drop you off right in the middle of a puddle? Hah! Might as well ask them to park themselves... hmm... waitaminute...

The forgotten danger (3, Interesting)

menscher (597856) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846167)

When backing into a space, your front end swings out a bit. So you have to watch for traffic approaching from behind before you do this. Does the car think to do that? No? Whoops.

No, it doesn't. (0)

Exiler (589908) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846324)

Although they probally spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on engineers and designers, I'm sure they never took simple phisics into account.

More lives saved by Slashdot!

Re:No, it doesn't. (1)

Exiler (589908) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846351)

*scribbles all the corrections to his horrible spelling in with Crayon*

*whistles innocently*

bigger engine and motor (4, Informative)

evenprime (324363) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846169)

I'm more impressed by the fact that the engine in the new prius is now 78 horsepower(it used to be 70 hp) and the motor is 50kW/67hp (it used to be 44 hp).

Toyota did the right thing. The new prius is bigger than the old one (now a midsize, not a compact), has fewer emissions, more horsepower, and accelerates faster. Now, if they could only make it cheaper, too....

Re:bigger engine and motor (1)

thanasakis (225405) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846243)

From what I've read in their site [toyota.com] the prius consumes only a fraction of the amount of fuel a normal car would need to cover the same distance. This is done by running the motor at optimal rates (I gather there is no transmission) and feed the electic motors. When you brake, the motor not only does the motor stop automaticaly, but your kinetic energy is being transformed back into electricity.
So, even if it is more expensive than a normal car, you could get your money back out of fuel economy in 3-4 years depending on how much distance you cover every year.

Re:bigger engine and motor (1)

mosch (204) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846307)

The prius has a continuously variable transmission, which is why it can run the motor at optimal rates.

Re:bigger engine and motor (1)

MBCook (132727) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846385)

Cheaper? Last thing I heard Toyota was selling them at a loss. Is that still true? Are they profitable yet?

It may be more expensive, but as other comments point out, the gas savings is MASSIVE so over the life of the car it will easily make up the difference.

How cool (1)

ExEleven (601282) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846181)

But can it pay the meter, and reverse over the parking cops trying to give you a parking fine?

In soviet Russia... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846186)

In soviet Russia, car parks YOU!

nice, but (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846192)

does it run Linux?

cluster (4, Funny)

chochos (700687) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846193)

I can imagine a Beowulf cluster of these. It must look exactly like rush hour.

importing one (4, Funny)

Sarin (112173) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846201)

Be carefull if you want to import one, in Japan they drive on the left hand side.
I imagine when you try to autopark in a right hand side country it will park in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

Better yet (4, Funny)

earthforce_1 (454968) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846230)

A car that continuously drives itself around the block, and avoids the need for parking. (Or parking tickets) Paying for the extra fuel is probabably cheaper that hourly parking in most major cities, and certainly would be in Japan.

Re:Better yet (1)

djshake (670753) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846291)

an hour of parking in new york city is $1.50 in most areas. an hour of driving about 20 mph is 20 miles obviously. an average car lets say gets 20 miles to the gallon. gas costs more than $1.50 per gallon in most areas.

this is a gross oversimplification, but cost efficiency is about the same. the real solution is to bring a friend to sit in the car and read with the emergency lights on. cop comes, they can move, and they don't need to pay for parking.

Re:Better yet (1)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846294)

In some cities like San Francisco, it's cheaper to pay somebody to keep driving your car around in circles than it is to pay for a parking garage. Why pay thousands for an automated system when you could pay a teenager $6/hour?

Only in America (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846316)

If people ever actually think stuff like this is a good idea, we need to raise the tax on gasoline. No wonder we're so dependent on Middle Eastern oil.

Sounds good (-1, Troll)

swtaarrs (640506) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846246)

But can it run Linux? sorry, I had to :)

Interesting Idea (3, Funny)

ewhenn (647989) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846251)

How about we adapt this technology so that it automatically detects if the parking spot is for a handicapt or not. If the owner parks illegally in one of these spots, the car backs the F$&K over them.

Self-crashing car (-1, Troll)

andygeek44 (703455) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846259)

Imagine if it was running Windows... Ugh...

yes... (2, Funny)

holzp (87423) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846266)

yes, but can it automatically flip the bird to that !@&#^$ who stole the spot from you, because is impolite car was made in the usa?

Re: Bang (-1, Troll)

billimad (629204) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846267)

Am I trolling if I say this is one for the girls...

Wrong place for intelligence (3, Interesting)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846275)

What we need is a car that watches the driver, and says things link "You're drunk! I'm NOT starting!" and "Hang up the cellphone and pay attention to your driving!"

Re:Wrong place for intelligence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846305)

Or even, "Don't you think you should wash that lipstick off your cheek before your wife sees it?"

Re:Wrong place for intelligence (3, Informative)

mosch (204) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846321)

the first one exists [stopdwi.com] .

Parking Algorithms (1)

kmahan (80459) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846289)

It'll be interesting to see if different parking algorithms popup for different vehicles.

Obviously for the prius you need a fairly conservative routine. With restrictions like "don't bump the vehicles in front/back" and "there must initially be enough room for the vehicle to fit."

For a Hummer or Abrams tank I think you could probably relax the restrictions a little. If you need to widen the spot a little you could probably give the vehicles in front/back a little bump. Or just park on top of another vehicle.

I wonder how good the parking algorithm is when parking next to the edge of a cliff?

Yuck (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846297)

More technology in a car?

These days, cars are so complex that to even think about servicing one, you need a Ph.D. And fault finding in your own garage? Forget it. I'm probably well set up, well beyond most even normal revheads, and yet I look at this car and just wonder how the hell I could even possibly think about maintaining myself.

But that's not the part that really gets me. What really gets me is that cars are becoming so much more simple and dumb to operate, the real level of skill to drive one is lowering appreciably. Now, when it comes to suspension and brake technology, that's not a bad thing, you cant have a car that stops and handles too well. But it's more of the throw the thing in D and accelerate off, switch off brain that the rise of technology is beginning to breed.

I personally find driving a pleasure, but I truly hate when the car begins to interject. Traction control? It should be my right foot (given I drive RHD). Skid control? That's called appropriate steering / accelerator / brake response. Looking out for danger? That's called my eyes and ears. Being able to park? That's called learning how to do it properly!

My preference is for a good, high performance 4wd turbo. No Anti-lock, no skid and traction control, just lots of power, good tyres, a car with really good response to my inputs and a chassis that communicates what is goign on to me.

Enough of these rubbish do-dads that frankly, no good driver would ever need. Bring back some purity into the driving experience. I dont care how advanced this Puris is, I will not even think about going near one.

Frankly, a 1920 Model T is a more rewarding experience and those things are POS. But there really is something about the skill needed to drive an old car with a crash box..... somethign that brings a smile to your face and you truly enjoy the experience. Or doing 9,000 rpm in a loud rotary. Or pulling burnouts in a massive V8. Or dirt road drifting in a turbo 4wd.......

As if this.... appliance could ever match that. Bah. Turn them all into scrap.

Re:Yuck (1)

man_ls (248470) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846326)

I agree....and speaking as a teenager, I get to say this without any bias.

Drivers need to know that it's a privlidge, not a right.

That said, anyone whose had their license for 3 months and gets a speeding ticket, gets their license suspended for the next 3. And then the cycle repeats. Do it 3 times, and you lose it for a year.

I can't count the number of times some retarded kid with his girlfriend in the seat next to him, has cut me off in traffic, forcing me to panic stop or swerve out of the way, either into another lane (dangerous) or off the road (dangerous)

Maybe a large ($1000+) fine could be paid instead to forgo the suspended license...enough that most teenagers don't have it, and most parents will beat the living shit out of them for having to pay for it. Or, even better, make the parents directly responsible for the fines their underaged offspring incur...

That way, the people who are inclined to abuse their transportation, won't be. And, since it only applies to the first time you get your license, it doesn't matter if you're 16 or 18 or 38...You follow the same rules.

The "maturity" of the driver has nothing to do with it...it needs to be impressed that they can't do anything they want to.

Re:Yuck (4, Insightful)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846345)

"Enough of these rubbish do-dads that frankly, no good driver would ever need."

Traction control and anti-lock brakes both can accomplish feats that the best driver on the planet Earth couldn't accomplish, given that they are modulating their input thousands of times per second, absolutely optimizing power/braking and acceleration. They aren't necessities, and you could approximate them, but don't fool yourself into thinking that you could do a better job. If you claim otherwise, then I'd suggest that you should have relay wires installed in your dash to let you handle the spark timing yourself as well.

Where technology has just finally offered a better choice is in transmissions: Until recently the "standard" was always the superior driving choice, as the automatic options were hydraulic circuitry turds often with 3 gears. Now there are continuously variable automatic transmissions that achieve the absolute perfect coupling between power plant and road surface all of the time. Alternately the computer controlled 5 or 6 speed automatics are quite extraordinary now as well.

Re:Yuck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846404)

I was the original AC.

I invite you to step into my VR-4 RS rally car and I'll take you for a sprint down a forest track. I can prove of what I speak. Traction conrol and ABS are frankly useless in true high speed dirt racing. And even on tarmac, I can still give ABS a shove aside.

You should go out do some real advanced driving courses and learn how to control a car and learn why ABS and traction cotrol cant beat a good driver in a car 4wd. And frankly, no car can select a gear for a corner as well as I can, when I have my eyes and my experience to judge a corner.

The best gearbox is a sequential dog-ring box. Much faster than any auto and clutch only optional if you want after takeoff.

Re:Yuck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846382)

Sounds like you need to read the service manual...

There is nothing wrong with making cars simple too use. It allows the driver to concentrate on stuff like the traffic and the road ahead.

How about one that drives itself? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846328)

Since they can't fucking drive!

Reminds me of a bad card I read (5, Funny)

zapp (201236) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846337)

On the front was a picture of a woman trying to parallel park, crunching into all the cars around her. The title was "Why women can't drive..."

on the inside..

Because men will tell them this is 6 inches:
--> ==== <--

Needless to say it wasn't quite the punchline I was expecting :)

Yeah but can it park broadside? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6846371)

"I can do that in the dark after 48 hours of no sleep, no problemo. Even with twenty people shouting in my ear" - your freindly automated machine...

Self-parking car (1)

McWilde (643703) | more than 10 years ago | (#6846374)

Now I know what to get my girlfriend for a present.

If I had a girlfriend of course.
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