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Mozilla Thunderbird 0.2 Released

simoniker posted more than 11 years ago | from the thunderbird-is-go dept.

Mozilla 431

An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla Thunderbird 0.2 is out! For those who haven't heard about it yet, Mozilla Thunderbird is mozilla.org's new standalone mail client and sister product to Mozilla Firebird. According to MozillaZine's article on the release, new features include 'a redesigned Options dialogue, spell checker improvements, enhancements to the default theme and better performance and stability'. More information can be found at the Mozilla Thunderbird Project Page and in the release notes (which include the important information that a clean install is vital). Builds are available for Windows (7.3Mb), Mac OS (11.1Mb) and Linux (9.5Mb) or you can download the source (29.1Mb) and build it yourself for extra geek points."

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OMG!!1 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865134)

OMFG have you seen the Halo 2 trailer it's like slow and it's telling you all the stuff you did in the first one then the music kicks in and and the chief comes out and gets a gun the earf is on fire and chief is like fuck this im jumping and HE JUMPS PUT OF TEH SPACESHIP with angels singing and he lands on the bad guys and that annoying ai lady is like GO GET EM TIGER! WILDCAT IS ON TEH SPOKE!!!~`1 and theres less polys but rawkin bumb mappings you can view this on a special MICROSOFT xbox disk that comes with EB games store.

Re:OMG!!1 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865174)

Pardon me. (-1, Troll)

Axe (11122) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865135)

And I can take a hit to my karma easily, but I do not have any other choice but to continue to use Outlook.

And I should confess - I like it. ;(

Re:Pardon me. (1)

rmull (26174) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865168)

I just switched to it from outlook today. Exchange server does imap, and my corporation has an ldap directory too. So I really don't even miss it besides a two or three minute email delay. And plus, I can leave outlook running in the background with mail notification turned off to just give me my appointments.

Yeah and look at how bloated it is already! (-1)

slash-tard (689130) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865190)

7.3 megs for the installer!

Ill stick with outlook.

Re:Yeah and look at how bloated it is already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865227)

If you notice, it shrunk about 1.5 megs since .1. It'll get smaller. (Outlook didn't look too tiny last time I looked, though...)

So is it as slow as Mac OS X Mail? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865137)

Or just as slow as molasses?

first (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865142)

post ?
really
awwwwwcrap

Confused (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865143)

Thunderbird / Firebird?

Why not pick a diffrent GMC product name just to confuse us!

Hornet
Gremlen

I don't enjoy this mental image of a drunk on the street with drinking from his paperbag while browsing the web.

Re:Confused (3, Funny)

El (94934) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865240)

Why not pick a diffrent GMC product name just to confuse us!
And all this time I thought the Thunderbird was a Ford...

Re:Confused (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865265)

And all this time I thought the Thunderbird was a Ford...

actually, Thunderbird belongs to SCO

Re:Confused (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865318)

Do you always post random thoughts showing your ignorance? A simple google would show that Pontiac makes the Thunderbird. Why post something like that without checking first?

Re:Confused (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865355)

Please check the 3rd link under that oh so simple google search [google.com] .

Re:Confused (0, Flamebait)

El (94934) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865366)

Do you always post random thoughts showing your ignorance?
No, but apparently YOU do!
A simple google would show that Pontiac makes the Thunderbird. Why post something like that without checking first?
I don't know what google you're using, but a simple google search turns up this [fordvehicles.com] Loser troll!

Re:Confused (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865330)

I thought they were all fortified wines. I'm expecting the next Mozilla version to be called Nighttrain, with the posterboy being someone so drunk they see lizards.

Re:Confused (2, Informative)

Sonicboom (141577) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865324)

I thought they were named after the brother/sister guitar and bass made by Gibson.

The Firebird is a 6-string guitar, and the Thunderbird is a 4-string bass - both made by the Gibson guitar company. [gibson.com]

Below are links to the respective instruments:
Gibson Firebird guitar [gibson.com] .

Gibson Thunderbird bass guitar [gibson.com] .

Re:Confused - OFFTOPIC (1)

nolife (233813) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865358)

Why not pick a diffrent GMC product name just to confuse us!

Is this your confusion or am I confused?

Thunderbird [google.com] - Ford
Firebird [google.com] - Pontiac

Hornet [google.com] - AMC
Gremlin [google.com] - AMC

You can not mention AMC without a link the the Pacer [google.com] , aka, the fishbowl on wheels.

The worst part of this post is I actually took the time to respond with links to a AC troll and post offtopic.

yeah (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865145)

I like teh netscape

One feature I want... (5, Interesting)

chrisgeleven (514645) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865149)

Exchange server support. Unfortunately I must use it at work and at school, which also means I must use Outlook.

Re:One feature I want... (3, Informative)

afidel (530433) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865216)

Just ask the admin nicely to turn on pop3/IMAP support. Of course this doesn't solve the fact that there is no calendering support =(

Re:One feature I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865356)

I have never met anyone that uses Outlook for a mail client use it for "calendaring".

Re:One feature I want... (5, Informative)

deek (22697) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865244)

I second this, in a very big way. Proper exchange connectivity is the only thing that's preventing me from running Linux permanently at work.

Sure, I can use the Ximian connector for Exchange, but I don't want to pay for something that I only use at work (and work will not pay for it, because they don't support Linux desktops). Plus, I don't think it supports full exchange functionality.

IMAP doesn't cut it either. It'll allow me to view email on Exchange, but the contacts and appointments and tasks and mail filter aren't available.

I really ought to try coding it myself. Just never enough hours in the week.

Re:One feature I want... (4, Informative)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865275)

Exchange server offers a nice web based system for e-mail, ok perhaps nice is too strong a word.

Exchange server offers web based e-mail.

Unfortunatly, both Exchange protocal and Mapi are closed protocals that require a license to implement presently from microsoft. This is not to say I wouldn't use a 3rd party generated exchange complient software, only that microsoft has teenage mutent ninga lawyers defending their protocals.

But try pop3 or imap, Exchange server usually includes both those standards as well unless the admin has disabled them some some ungodly reason.

Re:One feature I want... (4, Insightful)

sweetooth (21075) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865329)

Most people that are stuck using exchange are stuck using it because of shared folders, scheduling, and contacts. Not just the email portion of Exchange.

Re:One feature I want... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865354)

And a lot of people use it because it is still the best one-stop-shopping product for email, shared folders, scheduling, contacts, tasks, etc. Say what you want about the insecurity of Outlook but there are a ton of great features about it too that aren't yet available elsewhere. This holds true for a lot of Office. There is nothing (and trust me I have looked) that comes close to Excel and its macros/vba.

Re:One feature I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865339)

Exchange's webmail is as adequate as most webmail apps. I personally use sqwebmail for my home server and it pretty much sucks but it works real nice with qmail.

Re:One feature I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865352)

even the main mozilla.org webpage hasn't been updated yet... they still list thunderbird as version .1 ....

sheesh, the submitter must be refreshing the thunderbird project page every second! :)

Wait! I Want This Feature! (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865406)

I use pegasus for windows to download my email headers from the pop3 server, then I can delete all but the ones I will then download. This way I get rid of spam quickly, without actually having to download a lot of K's.


Now, can this new client do that? If It can, I can use that, on Linux, and not have to boot up Windows (insecure).


I'll go download it and see for myself, but I hope it's not another Kmail (too much like Windows email client).

The Mozilla project is dying! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865153)

It is official; Netcraft confirms: Mozilla is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Mozilla community when IDC confirmed that Mozilla market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all web browsers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Mozilla has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Mozilla is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict Mozilla's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Mozilla faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Mozilla because Mozilla is dying. Things are looking very bad for Mozilla. As many of us are already aware, Mozilla continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

Netscape 7 is the most endangered of them all, having lost 100% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant firing of all 50 Netscape developers [mozillazine.org] by AOL only serves to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Mozilla is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

Mozilla.org leader Mitchell Baker states that there are 7000 users of Mozilla. How many users of Firebird are there? Let's see. The number of Mozilla versus Firebird posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Firebird users. Camino posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Firebird posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Camino. A recent article put Netscape 7 at about 80 percent of the Mozilla market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Netscape 7 users. This is consistent with the number of Netscape 7 usenet posts.

Netscape went out of business and will probably be taken over by AOL who sell another troubled browser. Now AOL is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that Mozilla has steadily declined in market share. Mozilla is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Mozilla is to survive at all it will be among browser dilettante dabblers. Mozilla continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Mozilla is dead.

Fact: Mozilla is dying

Re:The Mozilla project is dying! (3, Informative)

Popsikle (661384) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865200)

But here is what you do not understand. The new products (thunderbird, firebird, ect) are gaining momentum quickly.

I have been using ThunderBird for email for quite a while now, and recommended to everyone. I even got my father to switch. The new suite is absolutly incredable. Quicker then the bloated netscape code, smaller, easier to use. This is what will keep the Mozilla Foundation alive, and im sure they know it too.

Besides when has market share had anything to do with if a OSS project stays alive?

Re:The Mozilla project is dying! (1)

dswensen (252552) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865270)

YHBT [faqs.org] .

I AM ON TEH SPOKE (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865156)

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In Other News... (3, Funny)

Luigi30 (656867) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865158)

SCO is suing Mozilla for making stuff on Linux. And Ford is suing Mozilla for using the word Thunderbird. And I'm being sued for not being funny.

Re:In Other News... (4, Funny)

Gogl (125883) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865325)

"And I'm being sued for not being funny."

Your current moderated status seems to disagree, henceforth I am suing you for misadvertising your comment. I'll see you in court!

Re:In Other News... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865370)

And I'll take you from behind. Bend over, here comes the train.

Nice guide to Thunderbird (5, Informative)

n0nsensical (633430) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865160)

English [nidelven-it.no]
Norwegian [nidelven-it.no]
It's from Norway, it must be good.

thunderbird is good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865162)

...but not the best. it still is unable to handle yENC attachments. this is the feature that keeps me using forte agent. it also still has some speed issues to iron out yet.

thundebird .02 is good, just not quite there yet.

Re:thunderbird is good (1)

1arkhaine (671283) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865273)

The funny thing about a 0.2 release is that it doesn't need to be 'there' yet

I mean, a 1.0 release with problems, sure, complain. But a 0.2???

Thank you for the explination (0, Interesting)

Raul654 (453029) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865164)

Thunderbird, Firebird, Phoenix - the common naming scheme might sound cool, but it gets confusing really quick and I think the dev team would do well pick more differentiable names.

Re:Thank you for the explination (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865230)

There is no phoenix anymore... but you did leave sunbird off of that list (the Calendar)

Re:Thank you for the explination (5, Informative)

cloudless.net (629916) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865233)

Thunderbird and Firebird are just the codenames for the development project. The final products will be integrated into Mozilla 1.6 Suite and called Mozilla Browser and Mozilla Mail.

Re:Thank you for the explination (2, Informative)

swtaarrs (640506) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865390)

They won't be integrated at all. The whole point of Firebird and Thunderbird is to separate them from the main suite to reduce bloat and complexity.

Re:Thank you for the explination (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865272)

Seriously, why couldn't it have been Mozilla Browser, Mozilla Mail, Mozilla RecognizableName???

Re:Thank you for the explination (1)

swtaarrs (640506) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865416)

How hard can it be to remember that Firebird is web and Thunderbird is email? I know the names aren't as simple as "Internet Explorer", but come on, it's just two simple words!

This just in . . SLASHDOT GETTING SLOW (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865169)

Read about this over a WHOLE HOUR ago on DA [deviantart.com]

If you want a little speed boost (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865180)

Check out the unofficial processor optimized builds [mozillazine.org] , available in a variety of flavors.

Why? (0)

spankfish (167192) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865181)

Silly question, but between the existing Mozilla suite and Phoenix and Galeon, why should I bother with this?

Re:Why? (5, Informative)

cubal (601223) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865204)

Phoenix is now Firebird. The Moz suite is being broken up into Firebird, Thunderbird, and so on.

In the future you won't d/l the Moz suite, you'll d/l the Firebird browser, and the Thunderbird mail client if you, and so on and so forth... all components will be separate.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865205)

Thunderbird is mail, Firebird (formerly Phoenix) is browser. Mozilla is a whole suite.

Re:Why? (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865232)

This is the email client companion to the Gecko based browsers.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865237)

Silly answer : because thunderbird is a mail user agent, not a browser.

Re:Why? (2, Informative)

MadChicken (36468) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865247)

It's the next version. It just happens to be split out into different apps.

I miss the little launchbar on the bottom of Moz though...

I upgraded... (5, Funny)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865189)

...but I still don't have any friends. :( ( no emails magically appeared )

Re:I upgraded... (5, Funny)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865383)

Add a Hotmail account and you will suddenly find your popularity with sex crazed nymphettes has increased tremendously.

Moz 0.2 (4, Informative)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865196)

Been running it for a good hour or so now, and I must say it DOES start-up alot quicker then 0.1 and it seems to be alot more stable as well. The update was easy (unzipping a folder yay) and everything seems to be working as well if not better then before. Kudos Moz :)

Re:Moz 0.2 (0)

snugge (229110) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865359)

"Been running it for a good hour or so now, and I must say it DOES start-up alot quicker then 0.1 and it seems to be alot more stable as well."

you been running it an hour, and it seems more stable?!? holy crap, im sure glad i didnt install 0.1!

I'd Love too, but.... (1)

TheRedHorse (559375) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865198)

I'd love to switch from the full Mozilla suite which is slow, to two fast programs for e-mail and web browsing, like Camino/Thunderbird. But...I have thousands of messages and dozens of mail rules connected to folders in my Mozilla Mail setup. Until Thunderbird can import these I won't be switching.

Re:I'd Love too, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865217)

Moving mail isn't hard, it's the same file formats. Rules are probably a little more challenging, but I would think appropriate filter files can be copied over, too. Just setup the accounts in Thunderbird and copy that data files.

Re:I'd Love too, but.... (5, Informative)

Popsikle (661384) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865234)

Thunderbird can import. Messages and Settings. When I switched I moved my stuff over from OE. There are netscape/mozilla options too.

Tools...Import...Mail
Tools...Import...Settings

No (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865246)

There's a "Comunicator 4.x" option. To migrate from a Mozilla based mail program involves setting up accounts and copying files.

Re:I'd Love too, but.... (3, Informative)

vgaphil (449000) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865369)

Moving isn't hard (at least it wasn't in Windows 2k), copy the "Mail" folder in your users folder --> C:\Documents and Settings\me\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\0qql5ql7.slt\Mail

Start Thunderbird and setup your account.

Go to -->C:\Documents and Settings\me\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\default\0qql5ql7.slt\Mai l

and paste the mail folder there.

As far as recreating your filters goes, it shouldn't take you to long to recreate them. They are very simple to create.

I hope this makes sense, I'm just coming off a sugar low =(

Re:I'd Love too, but.... (2, Informative)

WhiteBandit (185659) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865402)

I actually did the same thing recently. All it basically involves is copying the contents of your Mozilla profile directory into the directory of your Thunderbird Profile.

Since the two read the same type of profiles it should pick up everything, including settings and filters automatically.

There is some editing of directories and paths that you will have to update in your user.js file I believe.

Search the mozillazine.com forums. That is where I found the info when I needed to switch.

Anti aliasing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865207)

Anyone know how to turn off anti aliasing in this? My eyes are killing me.

When... (4, Funny)

jabbadabbadoo (599681) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865208)

...will Mozilla Taurus be released?

Re:When... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865266)

I don't think it could happen. The Taurus is one of the models used in NASCAR, and I don't think the full Mozilla suite belongs in a speed competition.

It might fit well in a competition with luxury models, though.

Re:When... (1)

Peyna (14792) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865403)

A luxury model would imply bloat.

good now maybe they can get plugins (1)

tetrahedrassface (675645) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865212)

good now maybe we can get plugins that are not like 2 years behind the times. I for one cannot wait until we have a REAL media player. Not some worn out skeleton of one.

Re:good now maybe they can get plugins (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865245)

You run plugins in your mail client?

Re:good now maybe they can get plugins (1)

Vexorg_q (216760) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865281)

There are, actually, Works with Moz, Firebird, Galeon, Konq, and anything else that does moz plugins. The mplayer-ns plugin. I use it. It works well.

Please note! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865213)

This is not yet advertised on mozilla.org. [mozilla.org] Thunderbird 0.1 is still advertised.

yenc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865215)

does anyone know when the ability to decode yenc attachments is going to be in thunderbird?

submitted already (-1, Offtopic)

jark (115136) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865219)

2003-09-03 23:05:26 Mozilla Thunderbird 0.2 Released (articles,mozilla) (rejected)

heh

Re:submitted already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865276)

It's definately not because of the subject. I'm going to guess that you need to include more and better relevant links in the article.

No offense intended, but you might run it through a spell checker too.

Re:submitted already (-1, Offtopic)

solferino (100959) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865278)

yup - submitters are the lifeblood of slashdot yet they are treated like shit by the editors

this could be rectified if the submission process was opened up as a transparent process (i.e. submission queue viewable by regular readers) but this proposal has been repeatedly rejected - it's hard not to see it as anything but a power play

v0.2 (1, Insightful)

Not The Real Me (538784) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865221)

I definitely want to install this version. The previous version crapped out so much I deleted it after 30 minutes.

Speed (4, Interesting)

miradu2000 (196048) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865229)

While I love the idea of ridding my windows desktop from any microsoft software other than what is required (windows), Thunderbird needs to majorly work on it's speed before it is of any use to me. I use a 500 mhz k6-2 with 512 MB ram, and often I can't type an email message because the program is so slow. However, it deals with IMAP much better than outlook- which makes my life much easier. Plus I can match skins to firebird!

Re:Speed (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865267)

use pine for speed, fag

or how about kmail?

GEKKO BLOWS -- PLAIN & PSIMPLE

Re:Speed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865291)

I used the full Mozilla suite for a couple months on a P166 laptop. (Honest)

I broke the speed of type.

What about my hotmail? (4, Interesting)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865241)

Anybody have a hotmail account hack for this yet?

Re:What about my hotmail? (0, Flamebait)

tetrahedrassface (675645) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865363)

Haha hah haha ha haha haha ha hahh ahah ......pause...hahah ha haha haa pause...sniffle....ahaha hahahaahahaaa...wipes brow...ahaa ha ahhhhaaaaaaaaaa!

Re:What about my hotmail? (5, Informative)

heavyVoid (694996) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865385)

YES!!! there are ways to reading HOTMAIL from any pop3 email client (yes, even from linux!!!) take a look at:

http://hotwayd.sourceforge.net

Bleh (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865242)

I only use webmail. No pop, no imap, nothing but webmail for me. I highly recommend yahoo for this also.

Something I've been wondering (5, Interesting)

revividus (643168) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865249)

I haven't seen it referenced in the moz dev plan, but does anyone know if there are plans to make the HTML Composer in Mozilla into a stand-alone app? Or the IRC client?


They could call them, oh, I don't know, Hummingbird and Lovebird.

Re:Something I've been wondering (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865342)

Composer++
http://webperso.easyconnect.fr/danielg lazman/compo ser/composer++.html

Alright (5, Insightful)

focitrixilous P (690813) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865263)

With Microsoft confused as to the devlopment state of Outlook Express [slashdot.org] , This could be a golden oppertunity for the open source community to gain a significant foothold, because Microsoft might finally be fixing their bugs. I know it sounds crazy, but why else would they push everything back so far?

Mozilla Thunderbird? (4, Funny)

Mister Black (265849) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865271)

Bah! Let me know when Mozilla Mad Dog or Mozilla Night Train Express are released.

The release notes don't mention ... (3, Interesting)

altp (108775) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865308)

... If there is an improvment with imap accounts. Is there a setting to check all imap folders, what doesn't cause it to error on folders that cannot contain mail?

Does it handle gpg any better than it did before? Evolution users couldn't verify messages signed with thunderbird perviously.

I'm all for .. (3, Interesting)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865310)

.. the lack of Outlook Express for free.

Its the killer net-wired computer app, and Microsoft is taking away the free treat. Interesting to see what happens with Mozilla's email client.

I wonder what Eudora Lite is like these days? ;)

Quick, tiny review (5, Informative)

rnelsonee (98732) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865311)

I just wanted to pipe in. I'm a Windows user (I know, kill me), but like most people on this site, I hate Outlook and Outlook Express. Vehemently. So I've been using Netscape 4.x's aging email client, Communicator. This post is geared for those who are still using it. Since Thunderbird is by the Mozilla folk, it behaves and looks a lot like Communicator. So if you're using Communicator but hate the fact that a) it can't render some HTML email that your stupid drone friends sends you, and b) all links open in Netscape 4.x, which is almost archaic now, I'd suggest you download Thunderbird and give it a try. You'll be able to import you Address Book and old emails/folders. Not your mail filters though, which pissed me off at first. So I re-did several hundred of them. But then I found Thunderbird's great junk-mail filter. It works great. The other neat-o factor is that you can apply filters to flag messages as Personal/Work/Whatever, and it color codes the emails! Very cool. Anywho, if you like Communicator, try Thunderbird. Especially as it gets more stable...

Why do I think of Steve Martin... (5, Funny)

Quarters (18322) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865313)

running around going, "THE NEW PHONEBOOKS ARE HERE!! THE NEW PHONEBOOKS ARE HERE!!" whenever I see someone make an excited news post about a 0.1 rev to a *mail client*?

Re:Why do I think of Steve Martin... (1, Informative)

xlv (125699) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865362)

...whenever I see someone make an excited news post about a 0.1 rev to a *mail client*?

It's based on the mozilla source code, and this 0.2 release is based on the latest Mozilla 1.5 beta so it's not really brand new untested source code...

GPG Support (3, Interesting)

danielrm26 (567852) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865322)

I just hope the GPG support stays solid and consistent. I am about to try and upgrade here both on a Linux and XP system and I am praying that we won't be burdened with enigmail problems.

If this client stays as solid as it seems to be, and is able to maintain good GPG support, I think I am going to be *very* pleased.

Trying to switch from Mozilla... (4, Interesting)

abischof (255) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865323)

I'm trying to switch over from Mozilla to Firebird and Thunderbird, but I've run into a few niggles. On the Thunderbird side, for instance, is there any way to open links in a new Firebird tab? In Mozilla's MailNews, I like being able to middle-click to open URLs in a new browser tab :).

And, on the Firebird side, is there a way to turn on inline-autocomplete for the URL bar? (If you're not familiar with inline-autocomplete, it's when the top-match dynamically appears in the URL bar as you type.)

Other than that, I'm also looking for a DOM Inspector extension for Firebird as well. Yeah, there are some one-off XPIs [mozillazine.org] to get the DOM Inspector in Firebird, but I'm concerned that they may not be actively developed. For instance, if the Firebird extensions API changes, I'm not sure if someone would step up to release a new DOM Inspector XPI :-/.

so far it runs great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865332)

i sure am glad there is a stand alone email client other than Outhouse Express...

Thank you Thunderbird developers :)

now to reboot to Linux and give the Linux build a spin...

Why? (4, Funny)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865333)

Why were they not a bit more aggresive with version numbers ? Its not like its a totally new code base so I'm wondering why they did not start at .4 or higher and work towards version parity (hopefully a 1.0 release in the very very near future) with Firebird so the Mozilla tools can be offered as a suite rather than a hodgepodge of different versions. I ask because telling your PHB you want to run 0.2 software in many cases is like telling him you have volunteered his services for clinical trials of a new protological device. Not something hes going to be happy about.

Memory Footprint? (3, Interesting)

mhlandrydotnet (677863) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865361)

Does anyone know if the memory footprint has improved? It is the only thing keeping me from switching from OE (which has about 1/3 memory footprint) and the memory footprint section has not been updated on their web site.

Two questions (2, Interesting)

helix400 (558178) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865367)

1) Is it possible to upgrade your existing Thunderbird 0.1 settings into 0.2? I know Thunderbird is not an installer, its just an unzip and go application. So I worry about upgrading.

2) Does Thunderbird bounce mail? Unfortunately, I have no clue what bouncing mail means, although it has something to do with stopping spam with SpamAssassin. My brother says he'll only switch from Eudora as soon as it can bounce email.

zsr ae5 strg sdr (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6865381)

life stinks, yeah yeah

Long term plans? (4, Interesting)

Malc (1751) | more than 11 years ago | (#6865427)

Maybe I didn't read the roadmap thoroughly enough, but I can't see the long term plans for this. I switched my mail and news from Netscape 4.8 to Mozilla 1.4. So far it's been reasonable, even though there are some quirks, sluggishness and some rather obtuse UI choices. Mail in Mozilla 1.4 has finally reached a level that is good enough for my full time use. I would really love to get away from the integrated monolithic process of Mozilla 1.4, but when it comes to email, I'm very conservative about trying software before it's ready.

When is this supposed to be ready? What is the long term plan for version 1.0? Does anybody have a clue, or will it follow after Debian and release when it's ready? The Mozilla Foundation is very different to Debian, and I think they need to provide more foresight. How long do people foresee it being until they spin off a stable branch meant as a replacement to for Mail/News in Mozilla 1.4? Anpther year?
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