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SCO's Next Target: SGI?

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the we-know-you-missed-your-dose-of-SCO dept.

Caldera 338

FatRatBastard writes "ZDNet News is speculating that SCO's next target in its legal actions against Linux may be SGI. According to the article its legal strategy will be to claim that XFS is a Unix derivative and therefore under SCO control, much like they claim JFS is in their suit with IBM. One fact not mentioned in the article that would support SGI being the next target is the malloc code they claimed was infringing at this years SCOForum was copyrighted SGI."

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furst? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884058)

furst? hmm

What a useful article (2, Insightful)

Overly Critical Guy (663429) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884059)

A link to ZDNet speculation about what might be SCO's next target. Slow news day? Needed another SCO fix?

Re:What a useful article (5, Funny)

MikeCapone (693319) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884076)

We should complain to SCO, they haven't been giving us our daily laugh as consistently lately...

Re:What a useful article (5, Funny)

EdgeShadow (665410) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884077)

I suppose you don't call your self "Overly Critical Guy" for nothin'...

Be very, very, quiet. I'm hunting violators. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884327)

Funny. Although the way things are headed. The question will not be: who are they suing next, but who are they NOT suing?

FUCK YOU NERDS! I HATE SLASHDOT! FAGS. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884145)

Re:FUCK YOU NERDS! I HATE SLASHDOT! FAGS. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884235)

You have junk mail.

Re:FUCK YOU NERDS! I HATE SLASHDOT! FAGS. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884305)

The fact that you posted this indicates that you're probably the worst of those that you appear to hate so much.

Re:What a useful article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884247)

You forgot to complain that the story was categorized as "Your Rights Online" (aka Piss'n'Shit).

Re:What a useful article (5, Funny)

Chris Sontag (684398) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884309)

Actually ZDNet have it all wrong. Our actual next target is God himself. As you know, God is responsible for all life on earth, including "trees". The way trees recursively divide their branches is a blatant copy of the hierarchical file system present in Unix. We plan to file suit in the next week or so.

Re:What a useful article (5, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884340)

Chris, I hate to interrupt you during one of your magical tirades... but the drugs are kicking in, Chris. Chris, the drugs are kicking in, and I've just noticed something new: These Linux boys seem to be using a lot of semicolons. A lot of semicolons, Chris.

Why don't you head back on down to the community college and see what our "MIT" boys think of that. Have we got another pattern here, Chris? Is this another pattern, Chris?

I think of you when I'm naked, Christopher.

And Then.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884063)

And then they are going to bark at the Moon.

You owe Ozzy Osbourne $50.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884250)

...for using the title of his 1982 album in a comment. Please send a check to the RIAA immediately.

SCO (-1)

Sir Haxalot (693401) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884066)

I think they may have bitten off more than they can chew. Maybe they should have tried going after these companies one after another instead of all at the same time?

Re:SCO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884172)

Not to make you paranoid, but it looks like someone is purposely stalking you around and modding you down all the time.

If I were SCO (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884067)

I'd sue Slashdot for all the stories about SCO. They're clearly trying to profit by SCO's active legal work.

Enough Speculation (5, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884069)

While ZDNet is speculating, I thought you might like to hear of the situation from the horse's mouth. Hi, I'm Darl McBride. You might know me from lawsuits such as "IBM is spying on our children" and "you bastards used the whole alphabet for ls options too!"

Now, we can all agree that XFS is based on our own filesystem, famous for the stability and reliability that give you excellent uptimes when fsck time is included in that uptime measure. You don't get that kind of techonolgy for free, and it doesn't simply <fingerquote> evoooollllve </fingerquote> on its own. That SGI stole and released this is not up for debate. But that piece of invaluable IP isn't the issue here, really.

Where SGI has really chuffed our muffins is in having the gall to steal our valuable "long-run" technology. By only executing on outdated hardware, we've been able to keep system procurement prices down while effortlessly sustaining the user's reading and coffee time. In an attempt to muscle in on our territory however, SGI have chosen to stay the course with MIPS CPUs and confusingly outdated IRIX. Now, I know that the R5000 was once state of the art and all that, but the damned things are shipping in Playstation 2s. This, while SGI have the gall to tell customers that these are usable for graphics workstations.

Be the judge and jury on this one, my friends. Why would SGI opt to use this kind of dated processor and leaden IRX OS unless they too were trying to implement our patented "long-run" technology? How long before SGI manages to extend itself into the Linux culture; to prevent system upgrades and encourage ass backward architectures there as well? Soon, our "long-run" technology will be in use by customers the world over, and they will not be paying SCO's investors one penny, your honour.

Your honour -- Not One Penny.

Join the good fight. The good fight is the right fight. God has given me a mission, and my investors call me to it. God talks to me nightly. We are talking about my second home here, and I'll be damned if SGI is going to take that away. We are talking about stockholder value, precariously balanced atop press releases, IP confusion, lottery players, and the belief each buyer shares that there will be one more fool beyond him. We are talking about SCO's God-given right to go where no man has gone before, your honour.

One to beam up, Scotty.

Re:Enough Speculation (2, Funny)

Chris Sontag (684398) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884264)

Hey Darl, I got that Crack Cocaine you said you wanted. Where should I put it?

Re:Enough Speculation (2, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884318)

Well, hell if I know. Boies took off with the bong, and I think he had my goddamned mirror to boot.

God knows we've got enough of these UnixWare CDs still sitting around. I wonder if they'll work...

Re:Enough Speculation (4, Funny)

Spunk (83964) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884329)

You've been waiting all day for this, haven't you?

WIll sco sue itself too? (5, Funny)

crea5e (590098) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884072)

Don't they sell Linux too ?

SCO VS SCO
ultimate deathmatch!

Re:WIll sco sue itself too? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884102)

Yes, they'll sue themselves for copyright violations claiming damages, most definitely.

Re:WIll sco sue itself too? (-1, Troll)

Chris Sontag (684398) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884289)

This is infact the main reason we at SCO have decided to start our new subsiduary, SCOsource. Dont worry though, that Darl guy is a pussy. I'll kick his ass!

SCO has SGI on the run too it seems (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884082)

SCO said sometime ago that "their" NUMA code found in Linux, has come from SGI engineers working in the Linux kernel.
http://www.byte.com/documents/s=8276/byt1 055784622 054/0616_marshall.html
So, it is more than "speculation".

Adrian Lamo... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884083)

will make someone a really cute bitch. Thank you NY Times.

Like my mom said... (1)

goldenfield (64924) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884084)

In for a dime, in for dollar...or a Trazillion dollars...how much are they asking for again?

Re:Like my mom said... (1)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884108)

(pinky to corner of mouth) Three... BILLION dollars!

Hi, I'm Darl McBride. You might know me from lawsuits such as, "I'm the real father of Tove's children," and "McBride sues his own pants off."

God dammit (0, Flamebait)

SargeZT (609463) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884089)

You know, I'm fed up to (pointing well above head) here with lawsuits involving open-source software. Someone should tell SCO that *nix isn't the property of anyone, anything, or any corporation.

Re:God dammit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884147)

I am too, that's why I am formatting Linux off my drive and switching to Windows!

SCO, the mother of all operating systems (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884091)

{sarcasm: semi-lame} It is true! SCO, she is the mother of all OSes, EVEN the ones that were invented before her! A temporal rift created an anti-time anomaly, sending SCO back before its creation to introduce lines of code in earlier OSes... {/sarcasm} bleh...

Re:SCO, the mother of all operating systems (5, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884185)

Sir, if you do not believe we intend to use the temporal rift theory, one of many such weapons in our powerful legal arsenal, you are not a well man.

That we've lost the leader of our legal team is conjecture and fallacy -- David Boies has been sent back to battle the first offender. The very first thief of SCO's mighty library of intellectual property. The next suit, and first in the new time line, will be filed against none other than Charles Babbage, your honour. Charles Babbage and his fabulous counting machines will fall like so many loose gears in the cuckoo clock that is the world of SCO IP.

Re:SCO, the mother of all operating systems (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884232)

Since I own the temporal rift theory, you are enjoined from using it without first paying me license fees in excess of billions of dollars.
See my lawyer for licensing issues.

Re:SCO, the mother of all operating systems (3, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884307)

And I call you on my patent for generally unfunny posting. A stalemate, sir -- a stalemate.

They're going right to the source after that... (5, Funny)

adrianbaugh (696007) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884093)

When they're done with SGI they'll probably track down Ken Thompson and try to claim that he somehow infringed their IP by writing UNIX in the first place. After all, anything and everything to do with UNIX is clearly SCO's by god-given right.

Morons.

Re:They're going right to the source after that... (0, Troll)

Phil John (576633) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884120)

Typical slashdotter, mucking up the spelling...

It's MORMONS

Oh, wait, hang on a sec...

Re:They're going right to the source after that... (1)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884224)

Sir, I'd like to be the first to say that... I like how you think [slashdot.org] !

The SCO battle must be taken to the front on all frontiers, future, present, and past! And don't you think we haven't noticed those unlicensed abacuses...

BSD is safe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884346)

" When they're done with SGI they'll probably track down Ken Thompson and try to claim that he somehow infringed their IP by writing UNIX in the first place. After all, anything and everything to do with UNIX is clearly SCO's by god-given right. "

The fact that they haven't been suing the BSD's (a point that crowd is vocal about ) kind of shoots that path down.

In other related news... (1, Troll)

LilGuy (150110) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884094)

Microsoft announces plans to merge with SCO.

Re:In other related news... (3, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884141)

I'm sorry my friend... I'm sorry, sir... but do you see Bill walking funny? It's time to lay off the funny, sir. It's time for serious grown-up things. Do you see Bill walking funny, and do you see me walking funny? We've taken the anal pledge, my friend. The anal pledge.

Bill and I are the best kind of business partners. When people ask me, "Is SCO in bed with Microsoft?" I give them my special executive Goatse.cx link. "Yes sir," I say proudly, "Yes sir, I am, and that man was no fudge-virgin, your honour. No sir, he was not. I tasted Stacker and Bungee on his person."

Re:In other related news... (0)

Chris Sontag (684398) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884359)

You two-timing slut!

Must be the drugs (0, Offtopic)

trolman (648780) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884100)

But a lawsuit is not the only avenue open to SCO: The company has shown a recent preference for more moderate courses of action, such as sending invoices to Linux users rather than taking them to court.

I for one cannot wait for the invoice to arrive from SCO and figure they are doing this because of the better drugs available in Utah because if they were still in Santa Cruz and given the easy availability of hallucinagins in that part of the world. There must be better drugs available in Utah.

Re:Must be the drugs (4, Interesting)

stevew (4845) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884231)

Well - as one person already stated - RICO sounds like a good way to respond. If you DO get one of these little lovelies - turn it over to your state attorney general and ask for SCO to be investigated for RICO violations! They are threatening people under color of authority they haven't proved they have in court. IANAL - but that sounds like extortion to me.

Re:Must be the drugs (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884291)

I for one cannot wait for the invoice to arrive from SCO...

Oh, I can't wait for SCO to try and invoice one of the big FreeBSD users like Yahoo. USL, who SCO bought, gave us a free pass as part of the settlement of the USL vs. UC Berkeley lawsuit. Can't wait to see how these slippery little shits talk their way past that. Has anyone reported these fuckers to the SEC for running a "Pump and Dump" scam?

enough (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884103)

stop with the sco stories you fucking niggers. just face it, linux has lost.

I suppose it would be too much to hope (5, Interesting)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884107)

that we'd see RICO (racketeer influenced corrupt organisation) charges brought against SCO (some corrupt organisation).

*sigh* A man can dream...

SGI's official response (5, Funny)

zBoD (86938) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884110)

is here [sgi.com] .

Re:SGI's official response (3, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884208)

Sir, I will have you leave my mother out of this!

Re:While SCO can be found (1)

soliaus (626912) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884216)

here [sgi.com]

Hey man, got a dollar?

SGI? (1)

Blaine Hilton (626259) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884118)

Well good to hear SGI is still with us. I thought they were goners...

Shameless blatant self promotion (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884122)

We Love the SCO Information Minister [welovethes...nister.org] is proud to now offer T-shirts and mugs [cafeshops.com] through Cafe Press [cafepress.com] . Any proceeds will be split between our bandwidth costs and free software legal defense funds. Someone order something quick so we can find out if we need to provide alternate artwork :)

Reply now for exciting business opurtunity! (1, Funny)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884123)

DEAR SIR/MADAM:

I AM MR. DARL MCBRIDE CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE SCO GROUP, FORMERLY KNOWN AS CALDERA SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL, IN LINDON, UTAH, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I KNOW THIS LETTER MIGHT SURPRISE YOUR BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD NO PREVIOUS COMMUNICATIONS OR BUSINESS DEALINGS BEFORE NOW.
MY ASSOCIATES HAVE RECENTLY MADE CLAIM TO COMPUTER SOFTWARES WORTH AN ESTIMATED $1 BILLION U.S. DOLLARS. I AM WRITING TO YOU IN CONFIDENCE BECAUSE WE URGENTLY REQUIRE YOUR ASSISTANCE TO OBTAIN THESE FUNDS. IN THE EARLY 1970S THE AMERICAN TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH CORPORATION DEVELOPED AT GREAT EXPENSE THE COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM SOFTWARE KNOWN AS UNIX. UNFORTUNATELY THE LAWS OF MY COUNTRY PROHIBITED THEM FROM SELLING THESE SOFTWARES AND SO THEIR VALUABLE SOURCE CODES REMAINED PRIVATELY HELD. UNDER A SPECIAL ARRANGEMENT SOME PROGRAMMERS FROM THE CALIFORNIA UNIVERSITY OF BERKELEY DID ADD MORE CODES TO THIS OPERATING SYSTEM, INCREASING ITS VALUE, BUT NOT IN ANY WAY TO DILUTE OR DISPARAGE OUR FULL AND RIGHTFUL OWNERSHIP OF THESE CODES, DESPITE ANY AGREEMENT BETWEEN AMERICAN TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH AND THE CALIFORNIA UNIVERSITY OF BERKELEY, WHICH AGREEMENT WE DENY AND DISAVOW. IN THE YEAR 1984 A CHANGE OF REGIME IN MY COUNTRY ALLOWED THE AMERICAN TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH CORPORATION TO MAKE PROFITS FROM THESE SOFTWARES. IN THE YEAR 1990 OWNERSHIP OF THESE SOFTWARES WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE CORPORATION UNIX SYSTEM LABORATORIES. IN THE YEAR 1993 THIS CORPORATION WAS SOLD TO THE CORPORATION NOVELL. IN THE YEAR 1994 SOME EMPLOYEES OF NOVELL FORMED THE CORPORATION CALDERA SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL, WHICH BEGAN TO DISTRIBUTE AN UPSTART OPERATING SYSTEM KNOWN AS LINUX. IN THE YEAR 1995 NOVELL SOLD THE UNIX SOFTWARE CODES TO SCO. IN THE YEAR 2001 OCCURRED A SEPARATION OF SCO, AND THE SCO BRAND NAME AND UNIX CODES WERE ACQUIRED BY THE CALDERA SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL, AND IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR THE CALDERA SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL WAS RENAMED SCO GROUP, OF WHICH I CURRENTLY SERVE AS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER.

MY ASSOCIATES AND I OF THE SCO GROUP ARE THEREFORE THE FULL AND RIGHTFUL OWNERS OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM SOFTWARES KNOWN AS UNIX. OUR ENGINEERS HAVE DISCOVERED THAT NO FEWER THAN SEVENTY (70) LINES OF OUR VALUABLE AND PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODES HAVE APPEARED IN THE UPSTART OPERATING SYSTEM LINUX. AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE, THIS GIVES US A CLAIM ON THE MILLIONS OF LINES OF VALUABLE SOFTWARE CODES WHICH COMPRISE THIS LINUX AND WHICH HAS BEEN SOLD AT GREAT PROFIT TO VERY MANY BUSINESS ENTERPRISES. OUR LEGAL EXPERTS HAVE ADVISED US THAT OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THESE CODES IS WORTH AN ESTIMATED ONE (1) BILLION U.S. DOLLARS.

UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY EXTRACTING OUR FUNDS FROM THESE COMPUTER SOFTWARES. TO THIS EFFECT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE MANDATE BY MY COLLEAGUES TO CONTACT YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE. WE ARE PREPARED TO SELL YOU A SHARE IN THIS ENTERPRISE, WHICH WILL SOON BE VERY PROFITABLE, THAT WILL GRANT YOU THE RIGHTS TO USE THESE VALUABLE SOFTWARES IN YOUR BUSINESS ENTERPRISE. UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT ABLE AT THIS TIME TO SET A PRICE ON THESE RIGHTS. THEREFORE IT IS OUR RESPECTFUL SUGGESTION, THAT YOU MAY BE IMMEDIATELY A PARTY TO THIS ENTERPRISE, BEFORE OTHERS ACCEPT THESE LUCRATIVE TERMS, THAT YOU SEND US THE NUMBER OF A BANKING ACCOUNT WHERE WE CAN WITHDRAW FUNDS OF A SUITABLE AMOUNT TO GUARANTEE YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS ENTERPRISE. AS AN ALTERNATIVE YOU MAY SEND US THE NUMBER AND EXPIRATION DATE OF YOUR MAJOR CREDIT CARD, OR YOU MAY SEND TO US A SIGNED CHECK FROM YOUR BANKING ACCOUNT PAYABLE TO "SCO GROUP" AND WITH THE AMOUNT LEFT BLANK FOR US TO CONVENIENTLY SUPPLY.

KINDLY TREAT THIS REQUEST AS VERY IMPORTANT AND STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. I HONESTLY ASSURE YOU THAT THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% LEGAL AND RISK-FREE.

Re:Reply now for exciting business opurtunity! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884184)

DEAR SIR/MADAM:

I AM MR. DARL MCBRIDE...

...Because lowercase letters have been used by the SCO development team. I am typing in upper case as not to infringe IP rights

Re:Reply now for exciting business opurtunity! (1)

BenV666 (620052) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884321)

Aaaargh, my eyes!!!! :) Good thing this kind of trash will not show up in my mail. Dear SpamAssassin takes care of that: Content analysis details: (7.6 points, 5.0 required) pts, rule name, description 1.9, DATE_MISSING, Missing Date: header 0.6, TO_MALFORMED, To: has a malformed address 2.3, DEAR_SOMETHING, BODY: Contains 'Dear (something)' 0.5, RISK_FREE, BODY: Risk free. Suuurreeee.... 2.3, GUARANTEE, BODY: Contains word 'guarantee' in all-caps 0.0, UPPERCASE_75_100, message body is 75-100% uppercase

Re:Reply now for exciting business opurtunity! (1)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884331)

Here's that post in human-readable format, although I must confess I haven't read it. Hey, our filesystem's down and I'm bored, okay? Dear Sir/Madam: I am Mr. Darl McBride currently serving as the president and chief executive officer of the SCO group, formerly known as caldera systems international, in Lindon, Utah, united states of America. I know this letter might surprise your because we have had no previous communications or business dealings before now. My associates have recently made claim to computer software worth an estimated $1 billion U.S. dollars. I am writing to you in confidence because we urgently require your assistance to obtain these funds. In the early 1970s the American telephone and telegraph corporation developed at great expense the computer operating system software known as Unix. Unfortunately the laws of my country prohibited them from selling these softwares and so their valuable source codes remained privately held. Under a special arrangement some programmers from the California university of Berkeley did add more codes to this operating system, increasing its value, but not in any way to dilute or disparage our full and rightful ownership of these codes, despite any agreement between American telephone and telegraph and the California university of Berkeley, which agreement we deny and disavow. In the year 1984 a change of regime in my country allowed the American telephone and telegraph corporation to make profits from these softwares. In the year 1990 ownership of these softwares was transferred to the corporation Unix system laboratories. In the year 1993 this corporation was sold to the corporation Novell. In the year 1994 some employees of Novell formed the corporation caldera systems international, which began to distribute an upstart operating system known as Linux. In the year 1995 Novell sold the Unix software codes to SCO. In the year 2001 occurred a separation of SCO, and the SCO brand name and Unix codes were acquired by the caldera systems international, and in the following year the caldera systems international was renamed SCO group, of which i currently serve as chief executive officer. My associates and I of the SCO group are therefore the full and rightful owners of the operating system softwares known as Unix. Our engineers have discovered that no fewer than seventy (70) lines of our valuable and proprietary source codes have appeared in the upstart operating system Linux. As you can plainly see, this gives us a claim on the millions of lines of valuable software codes which comprise this Linux and which has been sold at great profit to very many business enterprises. Our legal experts have advised us that our contribution to these codes is worth an estimated one (1) billion u.s. dollars. Unfortunately we are having difficulty extracting our funds from these computer softwares. To this effect i have been given the mandate by my colleagues to contact you and ask for your assistance. We are prepared to sell you a share in this enterprise, which will soon be very profitable, that will grant you the rights to use these valuable softwares in your business enterprise. Unfortunately we are not able at this time to set a price on these rights. Therefore it is our respectful suggestion, that you may be immediately a party to this enterprise, before others accept these lucrative terms, that you send us the number of a banking account where we can withdraw funds of a suitable amount to guarantee your participation in this enterprise. As an alternative you may send us the number and expiration date of your major credit card, or you may send to us a signed check from your banking account payable to "SCO group" and with the amount left blank for us to conveniently supply. Kindly treat this request as very important and strictly confidential. I honestly assure you that this transaction is 100% legal and risk-free. SCO CEO McBride

Offtopic, I know, but... (2, Funny)

adrianbaugh (696007) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884125)

In the original IBM lawsuit it occurred to me that it isn't SCO that's going to be using the Chewbacca defence after all, but IBM. After all, isn't it wookies that rip people's arms off if they lose? ;-)

Re:Offtopic, I know, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884218)

No, they rip people's arms off if they LOSE. Thus the sound advice that you should always let them win.

So if IBM's following that strategy, they don't want SCO to lose, or SCO will get angry and rip their arms off. No, wait, if SCO wins, IBM will get mad and rip SCO's arms off.

None of this makes any sense. IBM will win BY ripping SCO's arms off. And their legs too.

Another frighteningly serious Slashdot Star Wars discussion.

You don't use a "defense"... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884261)

..when you're the one suing. Only defendants use a defense. Instead of watching South Park, you need to watch more Law And Order.

SCO's Business Model (tm) (3, Interesting)

travisbecker (104621) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884127)

Personally I think SCO has chosen to craft their business model after an urban legend. [snopes.com]

Travis

Coffee and SCO (0)

Pro_Piracy_Guy (699942) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884130)

Yep... the day just wouldn't be the same without a SCO story, to bad it didn't show up in the morning with my coffee.

Re:Coffee and SCO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884277)

You mean want a Java and SCO story?

Japan,China ,South Korea to develop alternative OS (-1, Offtopic)

$exyNerdie (683214) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884131)


[yahoo.com]
Japan, China and South Korea plan to develop an alternative operating system to Windows

They could have just used Linux if they wanted an alternative but now they realize that companies like SCO are in Linux picture so they want something of their own.....

Don't tell /. pessemists/cynics. (1)

Thinkit3 (671998) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884186)

The response will be that Microsoft will donate enough campaign money to invade all three countries for being 'communist'. And they'll be serious.

Re:Japan,China ,South Korea to develop alternative (1)

Xerithane (13482) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884201)

They could have just used Linux if they wanted an alternative but now they realize that companies like SCO are in Linux picture so they want something of their own.....

Or maybe Linux is a kernel, and not an operating system. Then, they can use the Linux kernel and build an entire operating system on top of it.

Or just use BSD. Er, excuse me, I meant OSX.

SCO OWNS LINUX! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884132)

Get over it.

Free the mallocs... (-1, Offtopic)

A_Non_Moose (413034) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884133)

{chants:}

Free the mallocs!! Free the mallocs!!

Wasn't that someone's sig?

Ummm...oh, ya...how about:

Iran/Contra affair ~= Sco/SGI.

Mr. President; did you have any knowledge of the illegal import of mallocs into SGI?

(best Ronald Reagan voice:)
Response: I can't remember/I don't recall.

Hehehe...

(Side note: IMO, Reagan was one of the better Presidents in my lifetime/recollection. That's why I think Aaahnold will do well in California/Politics).

Re:Free the mallocs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884265)

Must not remember the 80's, huh? Not a particularly fun time.

I suggest you look a little more into the Iran/Contra affair and its legality before making such reckless comparisons.

Re:Free the mallocs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884314)

Side note: IMO, Reagan was one of the better Presidents in my lifetime/recollection.
But let me guess, you are suffering from the same problems as Reagan. Rose colored glasses, and absolutly not thinking processes?

Kinda gross, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884136)

SCO's turned into a flock of geese: leaving shit wherever they go.

Their IP "theories" threaten everyone - which is why I don't think Microsoft is really behind all this. MS has used BSD code a lot - and under McBride's warped view SCO probably owns that, too. Of course, MS will feed this dragon as long as it's trying to eat Linux, but SCO would turn on MS, too.

SCO vs RIAA (5, Funny)

Neppy (673459) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884149)

How long until SCO sues the RIAA for infringing on its patented process of public relations?

Hey guess what (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884151)

There won't be an SCO after IBM is done with them. So it doesn't matter. How about a more interesting story like the this [yahoo.com]

Re:Hey guess what (1)

mobiux (118006) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884209)

Um, yeah... right.... [slashdot.org]

In other news... (5, Funny)

rock_climbing_guy (630276) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884152)

Jeff Bezos will be suing SCO for violating Amazon.com's patent on frivolous litigation. However, it looks like the patent might be rescended because their is too much prior art.

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884192)

When did prior art ever mean anything to the PTO.

No "speculation" needed (0, Offtopic)

hysterion (231229) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884160)

SCO has proof positive! [ebay.com]

Re:No "speculation" needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884303)

Whoever modded this offtopic must have missed the IRIX logo on this SCO IP. [sco.com]

Re:No "speculation" needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884337)

Funny how SCO changed the picture [sco.com] on this page. Would it that they're reading Slashdot?!

SCO's 2nd next target: *BSD (3, Funny)

Jeff Breker (681514) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884161)

I can't wait for SCO to accuse *BSD of infringing SCO's IP (or whatever SCO is calling it these days)...

Re:SCO's 2nd next target: *BSD (1)

whoever57 (658626) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884262)

I can't wait for SCO to accuse *BSD of infringing SCO's IP

Din't they already hint [byte.com] at it? See the comment: ""But what about BSD?" I asked. Sontag responded that there "could be issues with the [BSD] settlement agreement," adding that Berkeley may not have lived up to all of its commitments under the settlement."

SCO's Property Laws (5, Funny)

Nighttime (231023) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884164)

These are the toddler's property laws, but could equally apply to SCO.

If I like it - it's mine.

If it's in my hand - it's mine.

If I can take it from you - it's mine.

It I had it a little while ago - it's mine.

If it's mine, it must never appear to be yours in any way.

If I'm doing or building something - all the pieces are mine.

If it looks just like mine - it is mine.

If I saw it first - it's mine.

If you are playing with something and you put it down -

it automatically becomes mine.

If it's broken - it's yours!

Re:SCO's Property Laws (4, Funny)

cperciva (102828) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884259)

If it's broken - it's yours!

Oh, so *that's* why SCO isn't suing Microsoft.

flaw in your logic (4, Insightful)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884300)

SCO OpenServer is quite broken, and they have yet to give it away.

J- what? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884165)

This scared the hell outta me:
"much like they claim JFS is".
The first time I saw it I thought it's JSF (Joint Strike Fighter), although it would be cool to have a servier able to fly at mach speeds.

AAARGGHH (3, Insightful)

LS (57954) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884174)

Jesus Christ Fuck! When is someone going to lob a mortar into the SCO offices and put an end to this fucking insanity?!!??!

SCO WINS, according to quantum theory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884299)

If parts of quantum theory holds true, all possibilies exist in alternate universes, therefore SCO must own this IP if they can correctly access the correct universe, IE construct a temporal rift and merge our universe with the SCO universe to demonstrate this ownership. Of course, if they mistakenly open the wrong rift, ravenous space zombies will devour them. But I think this is a risk well worth taking in order to protect IP rights. After all, Linux is STEALING and doesn't that justify just about anything?

Jeff Spicoli Uinveristy (2, Funny)

niko9 (315647) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884199)

Reminds me of a scene from Fast Times at Ridgemont high, where Jeff Spicoli has a pizza pie delivered to class. When the professor fumes at why he's disrupting his class time, Spicolli retorts "If, like, I'm here, and like, you're here, does'nt that make that our time?"

With SCO's asshat logic, McBide must be and alumin of that same school or a long lost relative of Spicolli.

P.S. The professor agrees with his obtuse student, and proceeds to hand a out a piece of the pie to all the students. ;)

SGI had their eyes open... (5, Interesting)

LinuxParanoid (64467) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884205)

I wrote a paper on the subject of SGI donating XFS after interviewing someone there at the time they made their announcement (~May 20, 1999). I just looked up the paper and found the following quote:

"Currently, SGI is clearing the source code of any legal restrictions; it expects to be able to make the code openly available by the end of the summer. "

Ensuring they were free-and-clear to donate XFS under an open source license was *not* an afterthought for SGI. There was concern among all the major UNIX vendors of IP entanglement with Linux, and SGI was the first to openly pledge to donate a chunk of their core UNIX technology. (IBM donated some non-core stuff earlier, and core stuff like JFS later.)

SCO's claim that XFS or JFS are derivative works of SVR4/5 remains, to me, highly dubious.

Too bad for SGI, the last thing they need these days is lawsuits. SCO can't hope for a lot of money, but maybe they're hoping for weaker resistance?

--LP

Not to be excessively paranoid.. (5, Interesting)

cmowire (254489) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884210)

Not to be excessively paranoid, but SGI makes a great strategic choice for SCO to sue.

They, unlike IBM, don't have buckets of cash in the bank to throw at a legal defense. If SCO can force SGI to do their bidding and potentially spit out some documentation that makes IBM's case look bad, they will be at a better position to take on IBM.

-_- (1)

dkermit007 (690991) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884211)

Aight...whos with me to go deliver a high "impact" package to the heads of SCO?

Re:-_- (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884339)

You really don't think they'd be dumb enough to actually go into their offices, do you?

you are now subject to CRIMINAL prosecution. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884347)

If McBride gets capped, the FBI will be knocking on your door my friend.

Article did touch on malloc (1)

twemperor (626154) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884214)

One fact not mentioned in the article that would support SGI being the next target is the malloc code they claimed was infringing at this years SCOForum was copyrighted SGI

Second, in an August presentation at which SCO detailed some of its complaints about Linux code [com.com] , Sontag described SGI file system software called XFS in a list of "examples of significant infringing derivative works" contributed to versions 2.4 or 2.5 of the heart, or kernel, of Linux.

One of the examples in the presentation linked to by the article, was of course the SGI copyrighted malloc implementation.

To the SCO hall monitors here... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884263)

EAT SHIT and DIE!

This almost makes me think MS is behind all this. (4, Interesting)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884287)

I have always been somewhat suspicious that there is a significant SCO-Microsoft connection, but the possibility that SGI is next on their hit-list just increases my worry.

SGI is a company that MS has every reason in the world to want to crush. They have traditionally been a major Unix vendor, they produce high-end graphics workstations that compete directly with popular Wintel solutions, and at one point they spurned Microsoft by dropping an ill-fated line of x86 workstations. And, making matters even worse (for SGI; better for MS), SGI is already suffering financially. This would be a great time for MS to crush them under their heel.

It is entirely possible that MS is pulling some strings here. SGI's target market and SCO's are wholly different, and I really don't see any reason why they (as opposed to HP/Digital/Compaq or any other Unix vendor) would be a real target. It just seems odd. SGI builds graphics workstations, and SCO provides general-purpose workhorse Unix OSes to businesses. Unless MS were involved, why would SCO pick on SGI in particular?

All your source (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884292)

Bishop: What happen?
Escher: Someone set up us the bomb
Pratt: We get signal
Bishop: What!
Pratt: Main screen turn on.

Bishop: It's you!!
McBride: How are you gentlemen!!
McBride:: All your source are belong to us
McBride:: You are on the way to destruction

Bishop: What you say?
McBride: You have no chance to survive make your time
McBride:: Ha ha ha ....
Pratt: Captain!!

Captain: Take off every 'SUG'!!
Captain: Move 'SUG'.
Captain: For great justice.

Re:All your source (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884320)

This might have been funny if it wasn't so painful to read...

oh dear oh dear (0, Redundant)

madmarcel (610409) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884301)

Ah..my daily /. SCOverdose

Yet more lawsuits...hmmm...hey wait, there is someone left to sue? Who haven't they sued?!?

"OK, can everybody who is getting sued by SCO move over to this side please!!!"

<<shuffle shuffle shuffle>>

"Ok, so what does that leave?"

"Ah, Mr. Gates, as expected...and who is that hiding behind you there?"

"Why...it's ....."

SCO Also To Sue India's (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884313)

Eunuchs [go.com] , Already Under Suspicion for Penile Theft [bbc.co.uk]

BSD Settlement ultimate target (4, Interesting)

whoever57 (658626) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884317)

If SCO can invalidate [byte.com] the BSD settlement, then SCO can potentially claim ownership of much of the BSD-derived code in the kernel. Now that would present problems!

The only counter argument to this is that SCO has already "blessed" much of the BSD-derived code by stating that the 2.2 kernel series are clean.

SCO! SCO! SCO! SCO! SCO OWNS LINUX! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6884335)


Something is Terribly Wrong (3, Insightful)

NJVil (154697) | more than 11 years ago | (#6884341)

A change in Darl's approach might be needed soon.

Even with the latest announcement threatening to litigate, SCO's stock price is not up. Perhaps investors are finally wising up now that Darl and his fellow execs have already dumped most of their stock.

Hey, it's possible!
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