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Desert Robot Race Update, With Video

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the mmm-mpeg dept.

The Almighty Buck 180

An anonymous reader writes "Several teams have moved forward with their bid to run the Barstow-Vegas Desert Robot Race (For those not familiar check out http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge ). As of today 55 teams are registered, some of the most interesting are Cal Tech, AI Magic, and the Red Team out of Carnegie Mellon. Also fishing around the Red Team site, there is a pretty nifty video."

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GNAA Announces acquisition of SCO (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896841)

GNAA Announces acquisition of SCO
By Tim Copperfield
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This news release contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. All statements other than statements of historical fact are statements that could be deemed forward-looking statements. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Actual results may vary materially from the expectations contained herein. The forward-looking statements contained herein include statements about the consummation of the transaction with SCO and benefits of the pending transaction with SCO. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described herein include the inability to obtain regulatory approvals and the inability to successfully integrate the SCO business. GNAA is under no obligation to (and expressly disclaims any such obligation to) update or alter its forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.


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Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896846)

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More information, movie mirror! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896854)

at alexa.com [alexa.com] , also some bittorrent links for the above article.

Above article is goatse link (1)

DonGar (204570) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896973)

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Goatse Slashdotted, text mirror below (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897008)

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Re:Above article is goatse link (1)

dreadnougat (682974) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897080)

I tend not to click on links posted by anonymous cowards :)

Re:Above article is goatse link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897364)

Good call [brokenwatch.net] ;-)

Take stuff from work (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896861)

It's the best way to feel better about your job.
Never buy pens or pencils or paper.
Take 'em from work.
Rubber bands, paper clips, memo pads, folders--
Take 'em from work.
It's the best way to feel better about your low pay
and appalling working conditions.
Take an ashtray--they got plenty.
Take coat hangers.
Take a, take a trash can.
Why buy a file cabinet?
Why buy a phone?
Why buy a personal computer or word processor?
Take 'em from work.
I took a whole desk from the last place I worked.
They never noticed and it looks great in my apartment.
Take an electric pencil sharperner.
Take a case of white-out; you might need it one day.
It's your duty as an oppressed worker to steal from your exploiters.
It's gonna be an outstanding day.
Take stuff from work.
And goof off on company time.
I wrote this at work.
They're paying me to write about stuff I steal from them.
Life is good.

MOD PARENT UP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896936)

You work your whole life to make other people rich! Fuck the bosses! Do everything you can to drive their profits to zero, with them none the wiser!

Comment (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896868)

Let me be the first to express pity for the poor server hosting a movie linked front page by slashdot. We feel your pain.

pathetic (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896871)

u lamer NERDS... dont u know there is a little something called FOOTBALL that has started now! We dont give a shit about your geeky nerd news mmkkaY??

Interesting project which will kill a lot of folks (2, Insightful)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896873)

Yet another interesting project with a lot of geek value which will eventually be used to kill people by remote control...

Sucks.

Re:Interesting project which will kill a lot of fo (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896980)

Would you prefer they just drop a 5,000lb bomb instead? A side effect of more efficient mechanisms for killing is that there are less inadvertant civilian casualties. Just compare the fire bombings of Dresden to the wars in Kosovo and Iraq. Which method do you prefer?

Re:Interesting project which will kill a lot of fo (2, Insightful)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897011)

Would you prefer they just drop a 5,000lb bomb instead? A side effect of more efficient mechanisms for killing is that there are less inadvertant civilian casualties. Just compare the fire bombings of Dresden to the wars in Kosovo and Iraq. Which method do you prefer?

I would prefer it be very difficult to kill people in general. That way, we'd only do it when we really needed to.

If you look at history, anytime one side was able to kill the other without having to really risk themselves, the shitty side of history results -- genocide, oppression, etc. Just because it's your side that happens to have the better guns, tech, germs or whatever doesn't mean it's a Good Thing.

Hell, look at us: We've been way out ahead for, what, 20 years now and already we're invading other nations so our political leaders can distract the masses from economic problems or the fact that they can't stop terrorism (70% of Americans believe Iraq sponsored 9-11, and why not? They're ay-rabs, ain't they?).

Anyhow, I understand that we live in reality and that these things happen. I just don't think that most geeks would want to be a part of it if they really thought it over, which is why I said what I did.

It sucks.

Re:Interesting project which will kill a lot of fo (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897048)

SlappyAssBitch writes that SCO has announced that it will eat you balls. In Other News, GNAA, your days are numbered. [walrus.com]

Re:Interesting project which will kill a lot of fo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897086)

"I would prefer it be very difficult to kill people in general"

Well then come up with a time machine and stop the industrial revolution from occurring. Otherwise stop fantasizing and deal with reality.

Re:Interesting project which will kill a lot of fo (3, Insightful)

tessaiga (697968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897196)

If you look at history, anytime one side was able to kill the other without having to really risk themselves, the shitty side of history results -- genocide, oppression, etc. Just because it's your side that happens to have the better guns, tech, germs or whatever doesn't mean it's a Good Thing.

Don't you mean anytime one side's leaders?

Or, put another way, it's easier to be yelling "Bring it on" when you're half a world away from the battlefield. One of the big changes in modern warfare is that wars aren't between neighbors much anymore. When you were invading someone right next to you, there was always the possibility that if things went sour, they'd follow your retreating forces right back to your capital.

Re:Interesting project which will kill a lot of fo (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897328)

70% of Americans believe Iraq sponsored 9-11

Please tell me you pulled that number out of your arse. If you didn't, I think American commonsense has surrendered.

Re:Interesting project which will kill a lot of fo (1)

annisette (682090) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897151)

Well said, I feel any idea that is observed or comes to mind of military brass has the automatic prefix; Hmmmm what kind of a wepon do we have here, weither it is a robot or a ham sandwich........cover you art or it will be seen.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896875)

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I agree with this post. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896918)

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Torrent (4, Informative)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896877)

I am currently downloading the file (it's slowing down every second..) but would anyone be willing to provide a tracker ? I'll make a .torrent and email it/seed it !

Re:Torrent (2, Informative)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896889)

Wich file? The "nifty video"? Save yourself the trouble, its mostly logos...lots of logos...

Re:Torrent (1)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897164)

I have the file, I'm still looking for an open and legal tracker to announce to ! Any help appreciated.

Re:Torrent (1)

delta407 (518868) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897207)

Try posting it to torrent.pl [torrent.pl] , voracity.net [voracity.net] , torrentreactor.com [torrentreactor.com] , or any one of the other public trackers.

Of course, I don't know how many of them are likely to survive a good slashdotting...

Re:Torrent (3, Informative)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897232)

Torrent.pl requires registration to access their "upload" page..
Same for Voracity..
TorrentReactor Seems to work ! Get the Video [torrentreactor.com] now!

Re:Torrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897247)

Both simply require an e-mail address -- they don't even get confirmed before they let you upload stuff.

Re: Torrent (1)

threephaseboy (215589) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897270)

You're currently maxing out my download. Thanks!
I'll keep it going for a while after it finishes.

Re: Torrent (1)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897279)

You should thank my Cable company who removed monthly limits !

Cool shit (0)

Kapsar (585863) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896884)

I think that this project is cool as hell. Hopefully groups like this will help NASA pulls its head out of it's ass so that we can send more probes to other planets and be able to manouver around with out fear of losing the little buggies. With something like this, it's also a big step forward in robotics in general. Having many groups work on something like this will certainly help with the creation of other robots.

Re:Cool shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897009)

Dude, within two months of the completion of this robot 4-wheeler ATVs will be hauling drugs in from Mexico, and probably Al Qeada along for the ride. Some technology does NOT need to be developed.

Re:Cool shit (1)

fenix down (206580) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897161)

Well, you COULD stuff your coke shipment in a $100,000 robot, OR you could have a dozen Mexican kids do it for $5 apiece, or just in exchange for not beating the fuck out of their mothers. And if you're Al Qaeda, I think it's a fuck of a lot easier to just recruit the dozen or so of those kids that get picked up while they're in prison.

race vs challenge (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896899)

from the darpa site's Q&A : "...And they must do these things quickly- overall speed will be the deciding factor and the time limit is designed to push vehicle speeds far beyond current technologies."

this makes it seem like the focus is more on speed that on being able to navigate by oneself. if you're making a race, call it a race, dont call it a challenge, a challenge should have prizes for anyone who can do it. i find this very misleading, anyone have any thoughts on this? how about starting a petition to change the name!

consolevision roxors

Not if ... (2, Insightful)

tessaiga (697968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897057)

the challenge is high-speed automated navigation.

As a news.com story pointed out, "Calculations and decisions have to be made rapidly, however, and the room for error is huge. A vehicle moving at 45 miles per hour is covering about 60 feet per second ... If the vehicle's computer can't absorb changes in data quickly enough, it could mean a trip into a gully."

Solving a problem, and solving the same problem in an efficient and timely matter are two different things. As any student walking out of a final exam can tell you, time pressure makes everything much more interesting :)

Interesting project which can save some lives (5, Insightful)

Pvt_Waldo (459439) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896911)

One of the huge applications of autonomous vehicles is the removal of landmines. Systems that can scout out, identify, mark, and even remove mines could save the death and maiming of thousands every year.

Our poor earth is littered with millions of land mines left over from past conflicts, and from current ones too.

Don't knock technology like this. It can be used for good too. Even to clean up after the bad.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (1)

Cassie (19732) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896943)

Yeah, but I think you're missing the point .. just because it can be used for good doesn't mean it will be .. they thought nuclear was a good thing too -- and look at the destruction it caused.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896959)

Oh, you must mean that whole nasty nuclear business about avoiding World War III. Yep, those idiots really thought that an end to global war was a good thing...

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896969)

Seeing as the nuclear bomb is, what, 58 years old and the history of modern made stretches for at least 10,000 years, don't you think it's maybe too soon to declare victory at this point?

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (2, Insightful)

Crashmarik (635988) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896977)

Roughly a billion lives saved.

Not to mention a pretty decent power source

While nuclear weapons haven't made war unthinkable they certainly have made major wars much less thinkable. Oppenheimer may very well have been the greatest humanitarian of all time.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (1)

whereiswaldo (459052) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897226)

While nuclear weapons haven't made war unthinkable they certainly have made major wars much less thinkable.

Sure, till there's only one country left that possesses nuclear capability. Then you've got a problem.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (3, Insightful)

wo1verin3 (473094) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896983)

>> Yeah, but I think you're missing the point ..
>> just because it can be used for good doesn't
>> mean it will be ..

So you think that this should not exist given the following information:

1) There are potentially good uses
2) There are potentially bad uses

How long have you worked for the RIAA? :)

In all seriousness though, all types of research, concepts, and development can be used in a way that is not beneficial to the greater good of humanity. Even a fork can be used to inflict pain upon another.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897315)

Thank God for sporks!

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (2, Insightful)

dreadnougat (682974) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896998)

You're missing the point. How technology is used is up to whoever uses it. Stop whining about how everything can be used for evil... How about we go back a few thousand years and whine about how many people iron will end up killing when people use it to make swords instead of ploughshares?

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (1)

Penguinshit (591885) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897369)

Heh.. yeah, really.

Didn't Alfred Nobel invent the "weapon to end all wars"? That weapon was called "dynamite". It can be used for everything from blowing holes in enemy fortifications to blowing dead tree stumps out of the ground in your back-40.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (1)

Penguinshit (591885) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897375)

oh yeah, I think the English Longbow also bore that moniker ("the weapon to end all wars").

I can't wait until the Centaurians show up in orbit to drop Mass Drivers on the planet...

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (2, Informative)

pyrrhonist (701154) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897023)

they thought nuclear was a good thing too

No they didn't. See Franck Report (June, 1945).

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (1)

ishmaelflood (643277) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897126)

Well, the first couple of operational deployments saved a few hundred thousand lives, so I think you could argue that it wasn't all bad.

And the nuclear power industry has killed fewer people than the coal mines it replaced.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (5, Interesting)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896949)

Or you could have it roll into a network of caves and shoot the people inside without exposing your own guys to risk.

Or you could send it over to an enemy location and transmit a "bomb me" signal to the smart bombs to hit.

Or you could have it crawl in and set fire to a compound where a bunch of religious extremists are held up.

Or you could use it to wait in a ditch for a month until the car of a political leader rolls by and blow it up.

These aren't all necessarily *bad* things -- it's always been reality that we kill each other, sometimes with good reason. But it *is* another step away from the old days when you'd have to risk your own life to kill another person, which IMO makes it a lot easier to do.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (1)

Pvt_Waldo (459439) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897006)

You're very right, this can be used for much "bad".

That's why I'm here pushing the idea of using it for good. Nobody's stopping anyone from developing this kind of technology for useful non-threatening/harming uses.

It's not a sword, it's not a plowshare, it's just a thing that you can use for different purposes.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897029)

I see what you're saying, but realistically these things would be pretty useless at clearing up landmines.

They navigate from waypoint to waypoint, they're not free-roving. Besides, all you *really* need for mines is a couple of well-trained guys and a metal detector, or even an armored vehicle with a chainflail attached.

This, this ain't good for that.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (1, Interesting)

Zakabog (603757) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896965)

This has nothing to do with scouting out landmines. These robots have to follow a set path of waypoints. When you scout out landmines there aren't many waypoints cause you don't know where the landmines are. You could set a robot to travel a path in a field looking for landmines along the way but there are probably much better and easier ways to do it.

Beside's you'd probably want some kind of human interaction, what happens if the vehicle comes across a land mind, doesn't "see" it and blows up? At least if it had some kind of camera and a remote pilot they could stop it before it triggered a land mine

Different solution (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896975)

People with brown skin (particularly small children) are cheaper and more efficient at the disposal of land mines (in volume, especially).

Afghans, Pakistanis, Vietnamese and perhaps now the Iraqis enjoy almost full employment as Disposable Landmine Removal Technicians.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (4, Informative)

Pvt_Waldo (459439) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896981)

Here are some stats from the International Campaign to Ban Landmines website at http:///www.icbl.org and the Clear Landmines website at http://www.clearlandmines.com...
  1. Over 35,000 amputees in Camboida alone from landmine injuries
  2. An estimated 200 million landmines have been manufactured in the last 25 years.
  3. Each year, 26,000 people are killed or mutilated by landmines of which 8,000 are children.
  4. Roughly 3 people every hour, 71 per day are injured or killed by landmines


The US Military DOES put effort into this kind of thing for landmine detection. It's not just a "killing" technology. Check out http://www.aro.army.mil/arowash/rt/sbir/00PHIII/00 page3.htm for example. Cool "geek friendly" vehicle which can save lives. There are others too. Go to google and search for sbir landmine detection [google.com] . SBIR grants are a type of grant the US goverment (all branches, not just military) give out every year to small businesses to develop stuff.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (5, Funny)

dreadnougat (682974) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897064)

Or you could use trained monkeys to do the same thing. This accomplishes two things: 1) Saves lives by clearing out dangerous landmine and other unexploded ordinance. 2) Pisses off PETA Well I don't know about you, but I'm off to kill a cute animal to make into a bag.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (2, Insightful)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897159)

Bullshit. You don't need long distance autonomy to remove landmines. You need simple low cost items that can be maintained and operated by simple folks in the third-world countries. 50 metres remote control distance is enough.

Re:Interesting project which can save some lives (2, Interesting)

droleary (47999) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897264)

One of the huge applications of autonomous vehicles is the removal of landmines.

As has already been pointed out, that's unnecessarily complex compared to telepresence used to do the same. In fact, I'm suspicious that this can be used by the military for much (general) good at all. Think about the environment that makes this necessary. If it was NASA, it might make sense, but where on the surface of this planet do you need a machine to operate itself rather than a human operating it remotely?

poo (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896913)

hey (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896920)

I dunno whether to believe it or not, but on this guy's blog [earthlink.net] some woman claims to be part of their dev team and has some interesting stuff to say.

Could just be a troll though, I wonder if someone could verify it?

Re:hey (0, Offtopic)

kdb003 (705035) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897003)

disgusting

leaked halo beta (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896923)

I just downloaded this does anybody know anything about it? Is it worth running?

Re:leaked halo beta (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896957)

Be careful, it's virused and you have to remove the trojan -- instructions here [goatse.cx]

faggots (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896924)

IRC r00xXx0r5555!!!!! (-1)

sithkhan (536425) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896931)

How KEWL! I am 733t!! P454r m3 d00d! hahahaha ...

Team List (-1, Offtopic)

pontifier (601767) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896933)

Look! there I am!

Funky music (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896934)

Robots dig the funky Weather Channel music on the Red Team video

Skynet? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896935)

I for one welcome our new athletic robot overloads.

Posting a movie? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6896946)

This article must be a conspiracy of one of the other 55 teams to bring down the networks of the biggest competitors.

Sounds like a job for (3, Funny)

euxneks (516538) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896947)

Monster Garage! [origprod.com]

Actually.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897139)

I met with some of the guys from Monster Garage about this project. They were willing to lend themselves as consultants (a few of the guys, sans Jesse James).. they were really cool & friendly guys. Even to me and my geeky friend :-)

Download (1)

mcbunny29 (583989) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896958)

Anybody got a mirror or a BitTorrent link for the Red Team video (http://www.redteamracing.org/include/media/movies /red_team.mpeg [redteamracing.org] )?

Re:Download (1)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897013)

I am at around 45~ done... If somebody replies to my previous post with an announce URL for the .torrent file I'll make one as soon as the (slow) download is done (34minutes remaining).

Re:Download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897272)

As posted elsewhere [slashdot.org] in the story, someone has made a BitTorrent distribution of the Red Team video [torrentreactor.com] .

Give that one a go.

Re:Download (1)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897366)

Here.. [torrentreactor.com]

CNET had a story on this a while back (5, Informative)

tessaiga (697968) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896971)

News.com covered the Grand Challenge a while back in one of their articles [com.com] . Gives a more viewer-friendly overview of what it's all about than DARPA's site.

i think i will enter (5, Funny)

kdb003 (705035) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896988)

i will simply program it to set off an emp.
that should spice things up

Re:i think i will enter (1)

pyrrhonist (701154) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897059)

Just remember to use GaAs chips in yours...

Re:i think i will enter (1)

kdb003 (705035) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897178)

>> Just remember to use GaAs chips in yours... who needs GaAs Chips?
i just need a big set of wheel, a big motor, and plenty of gas

just point it in the right direction and hit the ignition

Re:i think i will enter (1)

pyrrhonist (701154) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897293)

Unfortunately, the rules say you have to stay inside the bounds of each segment between the waypoints.
Those guys are such jerks. :(

I hate to beat a dead horse, but (0, Troll)

dmoore (2449) | more than 11 years ago | (#6896999)

it's spelled "Caltech", not "Cal Tech".

Spell this . . . (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897177)

"who cares"

All I can say... (2, Interesting)

evil-osm (203438) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897026)

I checked out Red Teams site and all I can say is "wow".

That and Mopar never gave me these options [redteamracing.org] when I bought my Jeep! :(

Red Team Movie Mirror (4, Informative)

jgaynor (205453) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897031)

Here [rutgers.edu] , Courtesy of Rutgers.

Re:Red Team Movie Mirror (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897071)

Shucks, I was getting it from the original site at a good rate (~30KB/s) and they just erased the file (disconnected, then 404 on retry). Which I think means we made some poor geek's pager go off on a Sunday evening.

advertisement (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897050)

does anyone else wonder if the poster has some ties to The red team, because that video had almost nothing to do with the race. It sounded more like a advertisement to get money for there project.

Dessert? (1)

digidave (259925) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897060)

Did they mean dessert robot race? My entry will be CowboyNealBot.

Serious question (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897061)

Have any of you ever excreted an odd, gelatonous oil in the area directly between your scrotum and legs? Does it also exude an odd and pungent odor that is "dick odor", but only 10-15 times as strong? My girlfriend recently complained about this to me. I had just gotten back from work, where I had to move 5 offices (computers AND desks). I took a quick rub, and yes, it was oily and slimy, and smelled strongly of my cock. What gives?

You have AIDS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897166)

[seesubject.com]

CMU Mirror (3, Informative)

Rufus211 (221883) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897069)

Wow, this is the second CMU site taken down in the last few days. Well, lets see if we can take down an other! Here's a mirror of the movie and some documents on my CMU account:

http://andrew.cmu.edu/~pnelson/www.redteamracing.o rg/ [cmu.edu]

Re:CMU Mirror (2, Informative)

baximus (552800) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897121)

Also try PlanetMirror's mirror [planetmirror.com] .

I don't really care guys! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897175)

As a member of the Arctic Tortoise team, let me come forward and say: I don't really care what darpa plans on doing with information they get from this... its a fucking blast to work on!

Re:I don't really care guys! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897208)

Oh yeah, you guys will love this:

the AT is going to be sporting the Linux Kernel... yes, thats right... everyone's favorite OS will be making the trip!

the mpeg - my first slashdotting (4, Interesting)

Mockingbird (51545) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897209)

So I get a call from one of my client's ISPs. Some guy named Charles is really alarmed about the massive amount of traffic my sleepy little robot site is generating all of a sudden.

Woohoo, my first Slashdotting!

So naturally the ISP temporarily banished the file. Thanks to everyone who put up mirrors. The file ought to be back where it belongs on 9/10.

Unrelated to the file, these guys at CMU kick ass. Despite all the DARPA downplaying that they don't exepect anyone to even complete the race in the first year, I have tremendous confidence in the Red Team to overachieve. There's a 'success at any cost' vibe coming out of that place that has to be experienced to be believed.

Re:the mpeg - my first slashdotting (1)

prestidigital (341064) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897294)

There's a 'success at any cost' vibe coming out of that place that has to be experienced to be believed.

Yes, in fact, many teams are spending much more than a million bucks to try and win. It's exciting.

Re:the mpeg - my first slashdotting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897371)

So how about telling us the name of this ISP that pretended to have internet service until you wanted to use it, so we can avoid it in the future ?

WHERE MY TROLLS AT NIGGAZ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6897233)

shoutz to the gnaa. they stand-up real niggaz

the challenge rules (1)

naubol (566278) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897261)

According to the rules [darpa.mil] , the technical papers for the challenge vehicles will be released after the competition.

Also interesting is the fact that the winner wins 1 million dollars. I wonder what sort of design budgets these teams have.

My only concern is, is this ESPN2 quality programming or merely cable access?

N

MIRROR (3, Informative)

BhAaD (692949) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897311)

Here is a link: http://sch5.digitalnines.com/red_team.mpeg

Mirrors for Red Team Video Clip (1)

Spock_NPA (12762) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897370)

Mirror hosted by CMU's Field Robotics Center: here [cmu.edu] .

Mirror hosted by Rutgers: here [rutgers.edu]

Mirror hosted by CMU Computing Services: here [cmu.edu]

Yes we know that the external Red Team website is hosted on IIS and powered by ASP. We're working on fixing these two bugs. =) Also to our defense, our internal technical web is powered by TWiki on Linux with Apache.

The Red Whittaker hype machine (4, Insightful)

Animats (122034) | more than 11 years ago | (#6897388)

There's heavy hype out of Red Whittaker's group. He wants to build a machine from the ground up, needs $5 million to do it, and doesn't have it. The fancy video is a fund-raising effort. Note that nothing in that video shows work done for the Grand Challenge, other than some pretty design pictures on a screen.

That red Jeep has nothing to do with the Grand Challenge. That's Navlab 11 [navlab.org] , the Robotics Institute's latest test vehicle. the Robotics Institute, headed by Charles Thorpe, took a look at the Grand Challenge and decided to pass. He told me "If we entered, we'd have to win", and since he's mostly Government-funded, he'd need another source of funding, which he didn't have. Whittaker, who heads a related but separate operation, the Field Robotics Center, decided to do it on his own.

Whittaker issues a constant stream of trival press releases, like Team Equipped with Laptops and Office Equipment [redteamracing.org] . We have considerable respect for the Robotics Institute at CMU, but this is becoming embarassing.

We take Team Caltech seriously, but not Whittaker's operation.

We will give a presentation on September 24, in EE380 [stanford.edu] at Stanford, on how we're doing it, and will show our vehicle, which isn't vaporware.

John Nagle
Team Overbot [overbot.com]

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