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PlayStation 2 Reaches 60 Million Units

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the a-drop-in-the-ocean dept.

PlayStation (Games) 51

Thanks to IGN for reprinting the Sony press release announcing that worldwide shipment of Sony's PlayStation 2 totaled 60 million units on September 6th. This can be split up into Japan/Asia (14.17 million units since March 4th, 2000), North America (26.42 million units since October 26th, 2000), and Europe/Australia (19.44 million units since November 24th, 2000.) The press release points out that: "Shipment of 60 million units within 3 years and 6 months since the launch is 1.6 times more in volume compared to the same period after launch of the original PlayStation." GamesIndustry.biz also note: "It's been quite a haul for Sony, who shipped their 50 millionth PS2 on January 15th 2003, having hit 40 million just four months previously and 30 million four and a half months prior to that."

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FIRST POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6912619)

This FIRST POST! brought to you by the GNAA.

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Just a note... (1, Redundant)

vitaflo (20507) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912688)

Shipped != Sold.

Re:Just a note... (3, Insightful)

rwven (663186) | more than 10 years ago | (#6913066)

Well, shipped != sold to the STORES. shipped DOES = sold to Sony. they have the luxury of getting their $chaching$ up front

Re:Just a note... (0, Offtopic)

macrom (537566) | more than 10 years ago | (#6915649)

Question, one that always fails to make sense to me :

How in the world can the FIRST POST, which is a full minute (since that's as granular as we get on Slashdot) before the SECOND POST be moderated as Redundant? Anyone?

Are the moderators suddenly members of the Slashdot Pre-Karma Police, suspended in some sort of aqueous solution, determining if something is redundant in the future?

Re:Just a note... (1)

vitaflo (20507) | more than 10 years ago | (#6917008)

I was wondering this myself, but hey, it's not the first time it's happened.

It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6912690)

It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after the Xbox has been released. I mean, in all ways the Box soooo smokes the Ps2.

Just amazing, it's like P.T. Barnum siad : "a sucker is born every minute" or something like that.

Give em credit, Sony has a great hype machine (with weak ass content!)

Re:It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after.. (0)

rwven (663186) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912721)

i'd have to disagree. if you look at the hardware in the XBOX and then look at the cisual quality, the xbox is the most misplaced graphics power ever. that thing should be able to do WAY better than it does... I've been far more impressed by the PS2 graphics and GC graphics than i have by the XBOX graphics...

i remember when the XBOX came out everyone was saying how the games with the really good graphics would be out soon... sorry havent seen one yet... and don't cry halo. that game looks like butt...(IMO)

Re:It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after.. (0, Troll)

DiscoOnTheSide (544139) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912837)

fine. splinter cell. haven't seen a game on PC yet with that good of lighting. not enough? hunter: the reckoning. or perhaps...Halo 2? The best looking game for PS2 I've seen so far is Tony Hawk 4, but alas, it's no splinter cell. That and I had to buy Vice City for PC so I could play that game without it looking like ass.

Re:It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after.. (1)

rwven (663186) | more than 10 years ago | (#6913030)

uhm, splinter cell is out for PC... apparently you COULD see a game with that good lighting... I've played it on both, and it's only decent on PC and laughable in the big scheme of things on an XBOX... HALO-2 isnt out yet and all you've seen are some escreenshots which ALWAYS look better than any finished product on the XBOX. When HaloPC comes out then people can talk about halo = good graphics... the XBOX's graphics are HIGHLY inferior to the PC's graphics. I'll challenge any claim to the opposite. every thing in the xbox is about 3 years old now. give or take...

Re:It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after.. (1, Insightful)

incubusnb (621572) | more than 10 years ago | (#6913053)

Have you seen the screenshots for Gran Turismo 4? if GT3 was using 90% of the PS2's power like they said it was, then GT4 must be using 120% of the PS2's power, it just shouldn't be able to put out the graphics, but it does

Images [gtadvance.com] (there are also Videos on that site)

the PS2 is definately not last years news and Sony has earned every Console its shipped

as much as i like X-Box and GC, i have to give Sony props for pushing old hardware faster than thought possible, and before you say that Sony didn't make the game, your right, Polyphony Digital did, but Polyphony is closely linked to Sony.

Re:It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after.. (1)

rwven (663186) | more than 10 years ago | (#6914362)

agreed. every time i see a new PS2 game, it loosk better than anything else out for PS2.

i think the most under rated graphics were in the GC... Metroid prime was beautiful...

Re:It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6914014)

Don't feed the trolls, please.

The problem is.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6916660)

The problem is not in the Xbox graphics, but that your PS2 is embedded deeply in your bum - once you remove that (completely up to you of course) you could very well be on the path to enlightenment.

Oh yeah, your Mom is over at my house playing DOA Volleyball with me on the X (did I mention the nude patch?) Natch.

Re:It's amazing peeps still buy that thing after.. (1)

Mulletproof (513805) | more than 10 years ago | (#6916245)

So what you're saying is that out of 60 million people are wrong and you're right??? Uh-huh.

Anyway, I own an Xbox as well and can honestly say there are less than a handful of games actually worth buying. Sony may put out a lot of shit, but the shear amount of shit guarantees a large chunk of genuinely good games. Come on man, when you're calling 60 million people suckers you might as well scream "I'm a fanboy!" while you're at it.

I wouldn't call them suckers (1)

swat_r2 (586705) | more than 10 years ago | (#6916696)

It's kind of like how tons of people drive a Ford, it's not because of the quality per se but because the public (ie. non-hardcore-gamer) can tend to make uneducated decisions based on what the neighbor has.

You do have a point that due to sheer numbers the PS2 has more hits, but think about all those shitty games the general public are buying! Makes me sick thinking about games like Simpsons Road Rage and how it's probably sold about 1000x that of underrated gems.

There is shit on all systems, Sony just has the biggest pile.

Re:I wouldn't call them suckers (1)

Mulletproof (513805) | more than 10 years ago | (#6918803)

I would go with the Ford anology if a car weren't something most folks need, which they do (at least here in the US). Need and price can cause a person to buy a lower quality product they normally wouldn't buy.

But a console is in another catagory entirely. It's all want. The sole reason a console exists is to bring people enjoyment and it is the opinion of 60 million users that the PS2 does a pretty good job providing that in a market where console prices are seperated by less than $50. Come on-- 60 million users are so uneducated as to not know where the fun is at???

Sorry, but that's a bit to elitist for my blood.

wow (0, Interesting)

rwven (663186) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912695)

man, 60 million units is a LOT of consoles. given the choice of all that's out i would most likely go for the PS2... im not a big fan of consoles in general though.

that new infinium labs "phantom" [infiniumlabs.com] looks to be a killer. /. has a lot of mentions of it as i recall. do a search. should be the first console ever that's truely upgradable.... not to mention it comes with not too shabby hardware. makes the xbox look like a toaster...

but back on topic, i wonder what a pile of 60 million consoles would look like....

Re:wow (1)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 10 years ago | (#6915331)

The fact that you're not a fan of consoles is showing - no one who's followed a generation or two of console hardware expects the Phantom to be any type of success. If it ever does come out, I'd expect 3DO or CDI like sales of it. Frankly, the specs that are being touted are purely made up in, what I believe, is an attempt to get funding. Releasing a console is expensive and doing it well is even more expensive.

Hilarious! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6916582)

You know you're going to be skewered alive for that comment about the Phantom :) You obviously have your head wedged firmly up your ass sir!

60 Million consoles piled up, we could probably create a new mountain somewhere (as the PS2 will be useless once the PS3 hits), or send them to third world countries I guess.

Haul or Loss? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6912701)

It's been quite a haul for Sony

Isn't it the general console business model to sell hardware at a loss then recoup profits on software sales? 60 million PS2s sold means lots of losses (prior to counting game sales, of course).

Re:Haul or Loss? (1)

n.wegner (613340) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912793)

First, they've made enough units that they probably have an economy of scale. Second, they've made their designs and manufacturing more efficient since release.

That means that they're probably making a profit on each unit now, if they were even loosing on the initial units in the first place.

Re:Haul or Loss? (1)

PainKilleR-CE (597083) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912807)

Isn't it the general console business model to sell hardware at a loss then recoup profits on software sales? 60 million PS2s sold means lots of losses (prior to counting game sales, of course).

Sony may have lost money on the consoles initially, but it's generally accepted that Sony hasn't lost money on a PS2 sale in quite a while, possibly not even since before the North American launch of the console.

Re:Haul or Loss? (1)

alphaseven (540122) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912867)

Sony is pretty secret about their business model, but I think their model was to spend a over billion dollars on a chip manufacturing plant. Now a billion dollars spread over 60 million units would mean the manufacturing cost of the chipset is pretty cheap, but they would have lost a lot of money if they had only sold 10 million or so.

Re:Haul or Loss? (2, Interesting)

phorm (591458) | more than 10 years ago | (#6918663)

I think this only counts for a certain period. basically up to when your slim sales-margin isn't beating the cost of R&D, development etc. I don't think it means the hardware itself costs more than the sale price.

Eventually, the R&D costs are paid off, and even with a smaller profit margin (lowered console price) you'll see a good profit for a high sales margin (assuming that most of these make it off the shelf)

Re:Haul or Loss? (1)

edwdig (47888) | more than 10 years ago | (#6918879)

Isn't it the general console business model to sell hardware at a loss then recoup profits on software sales?

Only if you're Sega or Microsoft.

Coincidence? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6912711)

Sounds like one unit for each file sharer. Hmmm...

Sony (1)

MORTAR_COMBAT! (589963) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912740)

60 million PS2 consoles worldwide? That is a lot of $$ for a company [sony.com] which the /. crowd has professed to really [riaa.com] hate [mpaa.org] on many occasions. Even averaging say $200 USD for all those sales is an amazing $12 Billion USD in revenue.

Re:Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6915227)

Sony is made of divisions...

Sony Entertainment .. Makers of the mp3 players aren't the same people as say Sony Music. Can you say conflict of interest? I knew you could.

The Playstation division is not affliated with Sony Music and if I remember correctly Playstation US building isn't even located in the same state.

Its overall easier to manage multiple divisions than have one huge group of people.

I've worked for both types and and they have thier advantages and disadvantages.

Re:Sony (1)

MORTAR_COMBAT! (589963) | more than 10 years ago | (#6930519)

How many stock ticker listings are there for Sony? One: SNE [nasdaq.com] . It is one company. The profits from each division eventually get funnelled up to the top, then divided back down.

So by buying a PS2 from Sony, you are helping fund the RIAA and MPAA.

Have a nice day.

Re:Sony (1)

!the!bad!fish! (704825) | more than 10 years ago | (#6919176)

The PS2 [playstation.com] and the record labels [sonymusic.com] are both members of the Sony family. One has a great product and the other is getting desperate. Does that mean we must hate one because we hate the other?

Lots of families have a black sheep.

bah! (4, Funny)

kurosawdust (654754) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912748)

shipments schmipments - start measuring your impact on the gaming community in "millions of thumb-blisters" and then we'll talk...

Not bad... (1)

skyknytnowhere (469520) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912777)

For starting out with a "mere" 1 million on launch day.

One of the best purchases I ever made.

skye

Re:Not bad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6916604)

Too bad you have the ass end of the quality stick now though ;)

Re:Not bad... (1)

skyknytnowhere (469520) | more than 10 years ago | (#6922808)

I have the fun factor I want, though, which beats out graphics quality any day.

skye

Re:Not bad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6994621)

Since a LOT of those 60 million consoles are replacement units I think he was talking manufacture quality.

Math for fun and profit (4, Interesting)

jvmatthe (116058) | more than 10 years ago | (#6912878)

Let's assume that the boxes that PS2 consoles are shipped in are 18 inches by 18 inches by 8 inches. That's 1.5 cubic feet. If you multiply by 60 million, you end up with 90 million cubic feet. The cube root of 90 million is 448 plus a bit. Assume 15 feet per story in a building.

Then if all the boxes for all the PS2 consoles sold were stacked up in a cube, it'd be roughly 30 stories tall and as long on each side as about 1.5 football fields.

I'm sure I forgot to carry a one or something. Maybe even a divide by zero somewhere. But that's probably close.

Now if I only had a dollar for each console sold...

This reminds me of Ghostbusters... (3, Funny)

ssstraub (581289) | more than 10 years ago | (#6913135)

WINSTON (concerned) What do you mean "big?" [Spengler picks up a Hostess Twinkie from the workbench] SPENGLER Well, let's say this Twinkie represents the normal amount of psychokinetic energy in the New York area. According to this morning's PKE sample, the current level in the city would be a Twinkie 35 feet long weighing approximately six hundred pounds. WINSTON That's a big Twinkie.

Are they still losing money on every console? (1)

Sheetrock (152993) | more than 10 years ago | (#6913506)

My guess is no, but even if that's the case there's still the pricey controllers, memory, ethernet, etc. not to mention the tiny piece of every game sold to factor in there.

I was wondering why they weren't doing things like making PS2 joysticks for the PC, turning the system into a mini media center with Linux and a decent hard drive unit, or the like, but they must be doing something right if they've sold 60 million already. Maybe PS3 will do more of that.

But they really get you on the accessories. I was looking at all the stuff the GameCube's got (and the connection to the Game Boy Advance is pure genius) and figured out why they kept the price of the main unit down. If they get some decent RPGs I might check it out.

60 gazillion millions (2, Interesting)

August_zero (654282) | more than 10 years ago | (#6913971)

HOw many of these 60 million are resales? I treat my PS2 with the utmost care and I am on my 3rd due to breakage. Come to think of it, of all the Sony products i have purchased over the years, only a couple of them still work. Maybe I am just unlucky...

Seriously though, I guess it testifies as to how important the stupid thing is to me since I have replaced it twice.

Re:60 gazillion millions (2, Interesting)

wanderers_id (682230) | more than 10 years ago | (#6914214)

I'm on my 3rd too. And i wanted to say thanks to BEST BUY for giving me two of them FOR FREE!

Their product replacement plan is definatly worth it for the PS2. I bought one for $300 and when it broke, Best Buy gave me a new one, and since the price had dropped to $200, they gave me the diference back in store credit and let me buy another replacement plan. So I took in my broke PS2 and walked out with a new one with new warranty and a FREE GAME!

That one broke and I returned it for ANOTHER a few days ago.

Re:60 gazillion millions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6914456)

... I am on my 3rd due to breakage. Come to think of it, of all the Sony products i have purchased over the years, only a couple of them still work ... I guess it testifies as to how important the stupid thing is to me since I have replaced it twice.

... or how stupid you are for buying it three times.

Have you ever heard:
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

s/Fool me/Replace it/

Re:60 gazillion millions (1)

Kethinov (636034) | more than 10 years ago | (#6915261)

... I am on my 3rd due to breakage. Come to think of it, of all the Sony products i have purchased over the years, only a couple of them still work ... I guess it testifies as to how important the stupid thing is to me since I have replaced it twice.
... or how stupid you are for buying it three times. Have you ever heard: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. s/Fool me/Replace it/
That concept also applies to the prospect of replacing your console(s) once every year or two as well. If you keep up on the three major consoles and their games with each release, you'll be spending more money than you would buying multiple computers! PC games are the biggest bang for your buck. Besides, if you really want that select consoles game, emulators are widely available.

Sometimes I can't understand why people buy consoles at all when there are emulators, but then I remember that most people are ignorant, lazy, impatient, or all of the above. Just read the forums on emutalk.net sometime. The regular influx of newbie morons who ask for free ROMs and bitch because they can't configure their emu properly is staggering. People seem to forget that emulation is legal but free games is not. People confuse the selfless emu programmers who devote their time and effort to their free software with lowly hackers who pay for nothing. But despite all that, some day the fall of the game console will be seen, bringing rise to further the already dominating PC gaming platform.

(/endrant)

Re:60 gazillion millions (1)

Alaric42 (50725) | more than 10 years ago | (#6915946)

Let me know when I can emulate Metroid Prime.

Re:60 gazillion millions (1)

Kethinov (636034) | more than 10 years ago | (#6916024)

I'd like to be able to do that myself ;)

The emulator isn't the problem. Ripping a GC disk and/or getting a real one to play in your CD rom is. :(

Re:60 gazillion millions (1)

blincoln (592401) | more than 10 years ago | (#6916949)

Sometimes I can't understand why people buy consoles at all when there are emulators

Because there are no working emulators for the current generation of consoles? Emulation is fine for yesterday's hardware (I use ePSXe to take screenshots of Playstation games for my website), but not for games you're buying new at the store.

Re:60 gazillion millions (1)

incompetent_bitch (519780) | more than 10 years ago | (#6917339)

Yeah, with the price of a new video card going for, what $400-$500, that's a great freaking deal, with lots of bang for your buck!
And then you have to worry about crashes, patches, bug fixes, etc etc etc. When I buy a game for a PS2, I KNOW it will work with my PS2. If I buy a game for my PC, who knows, I might have to get a better video card, it might conflict with some other software on my machine, it might be buggy as all heck, or it might just crash to the desktop at a great time.
These are things that just don't add up to "bang for your buck".
I'll stick with my PS2 games that I know will work with my PS2 console, thank you very much.

Re:60 gazillion millions (1)

August_zero (654282) | more than 10 years ago | (#6917454)

or not....

My cube GBASP and X-box have delivered nothing but perfect service, it's just my sony products that are crap.

And WHile I own all 4 major consoles (and a dreamcast) I also own a gaming PC, the last game i bought for which was the Neverwinter nights expansion. Maybe if I liked Warcraft and FPSs I would be content but I find that there are a lot of console games that are a lot more fun to play (Disgaea, Wind Waker, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced, Silent Hill 3, and so on) then most of the PC offerings for right now. I am sure there will be a retort of the nature "console games are for idiots, you have no taste" but be that what it may I am the one that has to enjoy my game library, not you.

Sometimes I can't understand why people buy consoles at all when there are emulators, but then I remember that most people are ignorant, lazy, impatient, or all of the above

Thank you for taking time out of your day to troll, slashdot thanks you for your contribution. Nothing makes my day like hubris from a random stranger. As for emulation: there are no satisfactory emulators for the current gen systems, and I tend to beleive that people that make games deserve to get some money from me if I want to play them.

Re:60 gazillion millions (1)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 10 years ago | (#6922449)

I treat my PS2 with the utmost care and I am on my 3rd due to breakage.

Jeeze! I bought mine when the xBox came out (hehehe) and it still works fine. Plays my DVDs, plays my games.

Did you "respectfully" throw it against a wall a bunch of times? Or do you let your cat use it as a toilet/cat-hair storage device?

I just wonder.. (1)

Baikala (564096) | more than 10 years ago | (#6914256)

..how many of those 26.42 million PS2's shipped 'to' North America ended up in Latin America's regular and 'grey' markets?

There are millions of ps2's installed at least in Mexico and Brazil despite Sony hasn't officially lunched the ps2 here. Games and consoles are for sale at regular retail game stores, and Wal-marts.

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