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Head Of Homeland Cybersecurity Named

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the cyber-cyber-burning-bright dept.

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ziggy_zero writes "Security software industry veteran Amit Yoran is expected to be named the new head of federal cybersecurity by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on Tuesday. The DHS is also partnering with CERT to form the "US-CERT" cyber-attack coordination center, coordinating efforts to fight cyber-attacks, worms, etc."

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GNAA sucks ass! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968720)

Nuff said.

Any results? (5, Interesting)

llZENll (545605) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968736)

Homeland security is a great idea, but there hasn't been much as far as actual results yet. We need some stats on how many threats they found/evaded, or is there this info available already?

Re:Any results? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968778)

Results? Everybody's a terrorist now, how can they not get results?

Re:Any results? (2, Funny)

Urantian (263132) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968784)

Gee. I thought that's what the new "Threat Matrix" show was all about... so we could get a first-hand look at the DHS in action!

Re:Any results? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968787)

It's probably classified, in the name of homeland security.

Re:Any results? (4, Insightful)

EinarH (583836) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968959)

Homeland security is a great idea, but there hasn't been much as far as actual results yet. We need some stats on how many threats they found/evaded, or is there this info available already?

This is a catch 22.

If someone ever where to make a in-depth study on wheter DHS works as intended this report would be classified and not avilable to the general public. If someone found out that DHS can't protect USA against a major terror attack DHS would not want the terrorist to know this.

So you will never know for sure if DHS works or not. That is until someone launch their major terrorist attack off course.

Re:Any results? (1)

Elfan (677935) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969290)

Security through what you say?

Re:Any results? (1)

EinarH (583836) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969427)

Security through what you say?

No.
Secutity through thinking independently instead of believing everything the government says whithout questioning it.

I was just making and observation that you can't necessarily belive DHS is trustworthy and honest when they say something in the line of "We are commited to the task of enhancing security in USA".
There are a lot of good intentions involved but don't trust good intentions when it comes to liberty.

Re:Any results? (1)

TLouden (677335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969088)

if they made it available and gave honest stats they'd be commiting political suiside. The numbers can't look good because they still have not caught me!

Re:Any results? (3, Interesting)

C10H14N2 (640033) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969159)

The assumption and constant media attention that DHS is entirely about terrorist threats is probably the biggest PR blunder behind people's lack of faith or even understanding of what DHS actually is. The Government Accounting Office is the research arm of Congress and has a large number of reports on the progress, or lack thereof, of DHS. However, it is not just "we caught three terrorists" as that is not all that is behind DHS, which covers everything from issues of immigration to natural disasters. It is a department more complex than anything ever attempted by any government in history, so don't expect the analysis of its effectiveness to be simple. Because DHS is all about communication between existing departments from local to federal, the majority of criticism is simply about effective communication.

The best starting point is here:

http://www.gao.gov/homelandsecurity.html

If you want simple anwsers, watch Fox News. Of course, it won't be the truth. It will be many things other than the truth. In fact, most of it will be complete fabrications and spin passed of as the truth, which of course people will believe without doing a shred of research and will then wonder how a government "of, by and for the people" can be so monumentally incompetent.

Re:Any results? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6969219)

If you want simple anwsers, watch Fox News.

Yeah, because I'm sure that CNN, et. al is doing such a better job of getting to the truth. But then again, what would /. be without some irrational Fox News bashing?

Re:Any results? (1)

paxcirca (694737) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969209)

Homeland security is a great idea, but there hasn't been much as far as actual results yet. Why is it that, when I heard "Department of Homeland Security," I think of the Ministry of Love and Ministry of Peace?

his name sounds (-1, Troll)

dnotj (633262) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968739)

scary to me....but maybe I'm a bit paranoid.

Re:his name sounds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968776)

Amit is an Indian name you tard.

Re:his name sounds (1, Informative)

nacturation (646836) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968824)

[his name sounds] scary to me....but maybe I'm a bit paranoid.

Maybe you're a bit racist.

Re:his name sounds (1, Flamebait)

dnotj (633262) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968846)

I am no more a racist than you are a religious zealot.

yes you are a racist fag. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968873)

jealous eh?
ur a$$ is 0wned.

Re:yes you are a racist fag. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968896)

you are a homophobe.

Re:his name sounds (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968933)

I am no more a racist than you are a religious zealot.

Check out the link and see how much of a "zealot" I am. You'll be amused. :)

Re:his name sounds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6969029)

You're right, you're not a racist. You're an anti-Christian jackass. That "landover" site is a classic, anti-christian, pro-liberal web site. You people can get away with mocking Christians for now, but if people like ME have our way, we'll be tossing your heathen, liberal asses out in the cold. BET ON IT.

Re:his name sounds (2, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969050)

That would be his point.

NO. ITS A RUSSIAN/EAST EUROPEAN NAME. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968835)

I am an indian and can tell you that Amit Yoran is NOT AN INDIAN NAME.

Re:NO. ITS A RUSSIAN/EAST EUROPEAN NAME. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968936)

True, true. Indians have names like 'running bear' and 'soars like eagle' and 'two dogs fucking'

Re:his name sounds (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968866)

I know, "Amit"? good god, they are even outsourcing homeland security to indians (dot, not feather).

head of homeland (virus) security (1, Interesting)

joeldg (518249) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968752)

Maybe this guy will help get rid of all those nasty worms on the intarweb

(you may need to be familiar with somethingaweful to understand the above statement)

Re:head of homeland (virus) security (4, Funny)

BWJones (18351) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968798)

Maybe this guy will help get rid of all those nasty worms on the intarweb

They would need to start by getting rid of Windows, which they apparently have standardized on. Not a good start.

Re:head of homeland (virus) security (1)

joeldg (518249) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968941)

yea, brilliant plan huh?
I know, lets standardize on windows and outlook so that my company can get a contract for doing anti-virus stuff for the government.

Sheesh.. MS might as well buy Symantec now and finalize it borgification of the government.

Re:head of homeland (virus) security (1)

TLouden (677335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969061)

intarweb?

I thought I was really uptodate on technology and the web but this term just hit me out of the blue, and coming from a non-IT person.

Re:head of homeland (virus) security (1)

joeldg (518249) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969098)

I put a disclaimer:
(you may need to be familiar with somethingaweful to understand the above statement)

Re:head of homeland (virus) security (1)

joeldg (518249) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969189)

oh.. here is a link about the intarweb
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph p?term=int arweb

fabulous..
simply fabulous..

Re:head of homeland (virus) security (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6969193)

intarweb

"in-tar-webb"

Intentional misspelling for 'internet' usually used when making fun of people who are technologically impaired

OMG! Teh Intarweb si down!!11! All of my AOL Blast Capacity leaked out!

"Cyber" (5, Insightful)

Durandal64 (658649) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968763)

Is anyone else tired of the word "cyber" being applied to anything dealing with computers? "Head of Cybersecurity" sounds like a title that some 13 year-old hax0r would call himself after finally learning how to share his family's broadband internet connection among machines. I find it difficult to take an office seriously if it designates head of "cyber" anything. It's the year 2003, people. Let's just start calling it "the internet."

Re:"Cyber" (1)

Hayzeus (596826) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968775)

No kidding -- that is just so 1995.

they call it that because... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968796)

when it comes to censoring and creating a virtual intranet to replace what we have now, it's easier to pacify moms and pops who think the 'cyber' world is something they could not possibly understand for themselves, so best leave it to the nice government to look after us...

Re:"Cyber" (2, Interesting)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968818)

Billy Gibson has suggested that "cyberspace" would be the (first and) last enduring word with the prefix "cyber" in it. Just like everything that was cool used to be "electro-" whatever. After a while, it was just assumed that new devices were electronic. Now it's just assumed that new devices have computers in them. "Cyber" is meaningless and anachronistic.

Re:"Cyber" (1)

buckhead_buddy (186384) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968987)

Billy Gibson has suggested that "cyberspace" would be the (first and) last enduring word with the prefix "cyber" in it. Just like everything that was cool used to be "electro-" whatever. After a while, it was just assumed that new devices were electronic. Now it's just assumed that new devices have computers in them. "Cyber" is meaningless and anachronistic.

So if Sid & Marty Kroft ever make a come-back what could they possibly rename their Batman & Robin knockoff show ElectroWoman & DynoGirl?

Your post has just scuttled "CyberWoman and InterGirl" as possiblities, and Saturday morning censors would never approve "FreeWoman & OpenGirl".

God forbid they go "WindowsWoman & XpGirl" but that sounds better than "PowerWoman & iMacGirl".

I really didn't need to start worrying about issues like this on a Monday.

Re:"Cyber" (1)

reboot246 (623534) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968819)

Agreed. It's time for "cyber" to go.

I still hear people on TV and radio giving their web address as "h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-w-w-w-dot-blahblah-dot- com". And then they tell us to "logon", even if their site doesn't require it.

Makes me want to SCREAM!

Re:"Cyber" (0, Offtopic)

giminy (94188) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968945)

There's a reason the h-t-t-p thing is important. Time travellers. It has to do with the Time Cube [timecube.com] . Just hear me out.

We know that people have travelled forward in time through a clock discrepancy in the time cube. See, they *make* the time disappear, thus travelling forward. If they remember all that lost time, they'll travel back. It's not impossible, really.

These people first figured it all out in the 1980s. We know they are here, and we want to make sure that they are not confused. If we leave out h-t-t-p, they might assume we are still using gopher or something. So we have to say it every single time.

Let's not even talk about the people from the future...

Re:"Cyber" (1)

dildatron (611498) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968955)

what is wrong with giving the full URL? It could be an ftp site, news site, etc.

Re:"Cyber" (1)

computerlady (707043) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969036)

Because there is such a thing as "default." Can't we agree that unless otherwise stated, it's a WWW page?

I'm getting too old to waste anymore of my life saying, hearing, or typing "http://www." Over a couple of years, think of how many sites I could visit in that wasted time.

[By the way, some people still don't realize that you can just type the middle part, leave out the www dot and the dot com part, and press CTRL-ENTER. It will automatically assume (default!) that you want a dot com world wide web page.]

Re:"Cyber" (2, Funny)

Penguinshit (591885) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969128)

That assumes some people actually read RFCs.

Most people hear "RFC" and think about either nasty fried chicken or some old TV show starring Andy Griffith.

Re:"Cyber" (1)

TLouden (677335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968837)

Yes, yes I am tierd of the over use of 'cyber' and while we're complaining the over use of 'geek' is giving true geeks a bad name. Now it's used to describe anyone who knows how to use a computer or any other electronics.

Re:"Cyber" (1)

Drantin (569921) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969000)

Mainly because the ignorance of the people that call others geeks keeps increasing, therefore anyone who knows more abuot computers than they do must be a geek...

Re:"Cyber" (1)

TLouden (677335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969043)

But that classifies me as a geek to all but 2-4 people out of 2000+ in my school.
It should also be noted that on any given day we have 1-3 people working on computers at the school not including me.

Re:"Cyber" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968859)

Al Gore, while complaining about the fact that he lost the last presidential election, noted more recently that he will sue the US Government over the use of The Internet as his personal IP.

His terms would include immediate removal of Bush as president (because Bush would have allowed the IP theft to occur) and his immediate coronation as Internet King of the Galaxy!!!

Re:"Cyber" (1)

Urantian (263132) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968860)

Yeah... referring to something on the Internet as "Cyber" is like calling anything computerized as "Compu-". Like CompuTax, CompuFile, or even CompUSA.

Re:"Cyber" (0)

ccwaterz (535536) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968912)

Let's just start calling it "the internet."

I prefer "Information Superhighway". Its like an interstate but its super and it has information.

Nah... (3, Funny)

Esion Modnar (632431) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968938)

It's the year 2003, people. Let's just start calling it "the internet."

I call it the Information Superhighway. Why? Is it because:

1) I like lots of syllables.
2) I'm a slave to whatever phrase is the current media darling.
3) I feel like roadkill on said highway.
or
4) I like screaming "ONRAMP!" every time I boot the computer.

Re:"Cyber" (1)

Cyno (85911) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968973)

Its just our governmnet trying to show how much it "gets it". Here in reality we all know it does, never has, never will. But there are so few of us here in reality. ;)

Re:"Cyber" (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968994)

how about "Information superhighway traffic cop"?
or
"Xtreme Black Ice"
or
"Chief of the Orwellian Freedom of Computers Dept."?
or
"Al Gore"

If they didn't call it that... (0)

Pro_Piracy_Guy (699942) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969081)

If they (read --> government) didn't call it "cyber" this and "cyber" that, then we wouldn't know they were dumb government agents. Kinda like when the DEA raids drug houses, they wear thoose nice black jackets with "DEA" in bright yellow on the back, that way the drug dealers have something to aim their guns at without having to worry about shooting any other drug dealers or friends.

Thanks government... without you, I'd have nothing to be pissed at all day!

Re:"Cyber" (1)

segment (695309) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969333)


Has anyone else thought about the huge conflict of interest behind having a VP of s security company being the dept of homeland sec director. That's like giving a junky leadership over a needle distribution center... Think about the kickbacks, and deals that'll be pushed towards Symantec... As for the cyber overusage... I'm used to it, and nothing that can be said will help it... the whole hacker is not a cracker bit is sooooo yesterday

I don''t know the guy, or anything about him (5, Insightful)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968764)

but it seems to me that bribes from Mirrosoft for "defense contracts" comprise the largest threats to national electronic security.

Let's just switch everything over to OpenBSD and pray to cueriel that we keep good relations with Canada.

We can't do that! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968862)

How can we entrust the security of our nation to an OS that's *dying*??

BSD is DEAD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968949)

Haven't you heard? BSD is *dead*.

good (3, Insightful)

scrotch (605605) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968768)

This sounds much, much better than it could have been.

I was predicting the worst...
someone with no technical background,
someone from Justice Dept,
someone corporate goon from Microsoft...

I am relieved.

Re:good (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968792)

I'm not. He's from Symantec.

Symantec has two policies that I disagree strongly with:

#1, They don't define spyware as the trojans they are. To put it in perspective, think 'keystroke logging.'

#2, Symantec is known for scare-mongering.

However, I should reserve my judgement until he actually does something.

Re:good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968906)

he only worked for symantec for about a year. prior to that he founded a company that was bought out by symantec. his company became a division within symantec, and he was appointed vp of that division.

the company had little to do with viruses.

Re:good (2, Funny)

johndoesovich (691840) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968961)

I am glad to see it was not the inventor of the internet.... Mr. Al Gore

OT: Al Gore (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6969001)

... the inventor of the internet.... Mr. Al Gore

This is not funny anymore.

The joke is dead.

Re:OT: Al Gore (1)

johndoesovich (691840) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969057)

i am a bit new to slashdot, please excuse me. if i weren't so new i would tell you to suckem nuts but i won't. i actually did not hear about al gore's statement until a few months ago. i am a little behind times.
later and suckem nuts.

Dont be relieved (4, Interesting)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969135)

The Bussiness software Alliance is applauding the choice. This means we need to keep a close eye on this.

I'm slightly concerned that its someone whos main source of income has been writing anti-virus software for Windows machines. I would doubt that he wakes up each day he hears about a new windows virus and says, that does it, i'm swithcing to linux for better security. He probably also would not really like to see for example, an open source virus program.

And to the extent that he can cast off his "I profit from poor windows security" past, then he would probably see the "paladium" or whatever its called now as the ideal solultion to the widows is a seive problem. And in the HS dept he'll have the clout to make it a national requirement.

the only good thing is it looks like he was a technical person who is well aware of many of the problems in computer security.

United States government chooses Symantec (4, Interesting)

nacturation (646836) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968781)

From the article:

"Yoran helped to found network scanning company RipTech Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, in 1998. After RipTech was acquired by antivirus giant Symantec Corp. for $145 million in August 2002, Yoran stayed on as Symantec vice president of worldwide managed security services operations, according to Symantec spokesman Cris Paden."

Anyone care to wager how soon the government starts awarding contracts/grants to Symantec for its exclusive security solution?

Linux sucks! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968783)

Where is the GNAP? [slashdot.jp]

Terrible combination (5, Interesting)

computerlady (707043) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968785)

Oh, great. Let's combine the computer security industry (already famous for making work and money for itself by scaring everyone with over-hyped media attention to every script-kiddy's feeble edit of an existing worm) with the Department of Homeland Security's similar tactics of justifying it's existence, not to mention whatever policies the powers-that-be desire.

We'll all be on tranquilizers in no time.

Re:Terrible combination (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968855)

no at this rate we'll all be soylent green

Re:Terrible combination (1)

Cyno (85911) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968939)

We'll all be on tranquilizers in no time.

You mean we aren't already?

Its funny how we use our own psychologists against us. 9 out of 10 psychologists agree, watching a lot of TV and shopping is the best way to spend a holiday season.

Re:Terrible combination (1)

TLouden (677335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968963)

Well, I don't know about you but I'm gunna become one of those over hyped excuses for existen and attention. Someone has got to be targeted for this kind of use while the rest of you are pumping up the dosage.

fuck (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968786)

Bush

Whew! (4, Insightful)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968788)


Gods, I'm glad there's a humongous bureaucracy ready to step in and clean up the internet.

What's the plan, prosecute more teenagers and distribute their allowances between the multi-billion-dollar claimants?

Re:Whew! (1)

TLouden (677335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968897)

Yes! That's exactly what they're planning on doing. My friends and I took a look at their list and now we're next on it.

Poor guy (1)

TLouden (677335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968817)

Now every blackhat hacker, script kiddy, or other 'cyber'threat is not only his problem but they're all after him and ony computers/websites/etc. that he has or runs. Talk about being setup for failure.

Re:Poor guy (-1)

WellAren'tYouJustThe (705433) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968843)

Well, aren't you just the master of the written word.

Let the personal attacks commence! (0, Flamebait)

javelinco (652113) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968823)

Being that Homeland Defense is currently the great evil of this nation, let the personal attacks on Mr. Amit Yoran begin!

Re:Let the personal attacks commence! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968972)

if the BSA like him we know he's one of the boys. looks like a cosy little club, how better to backdoor a computer, who needs an NSA key when you have security vendors whose software is trusted by millions? would lead be a better material than tinfoil if I were making a hat?

Re:Let the personal attacks commence! (1)

dreadnougat (682974) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969103)

"would lead be a better material than tinfoil if I were making a hat? "

Depends on how strong your neck is.

It could be a lot worse (4, Insightful)

OriginalGlug (704938) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968842)

I think that choosing a software security and anti-virus expert, rather then someone with a law enforecement background is a good thing. It will hopefully keep the focus of off spying on citizens and might help reduce the number of worms going around right now.

And I heard the cry... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968850)

"We who are about to die salute you!"

News Flash (4, Funny)

G33kDragon (699950) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968879)

This just in: Our Nation's cyber-fighting department outsourced security implementation to India.
...who just outsourced 90% to Afghanistan.
...who just hired on some guy who calls himself 'Ossy bin Laden'.
...who just finished a 3 month 'pong' marathon in a cave located in an area no-one's heard of.
...who uses a new personalized OS: Microsoft WindowsXPlode

"He had a weird smirk on his face when they told him he would be in charge of managing cyber-attacks. Upon further clarification, his smile turned to frown when it was revealed to him that he would not actually be creating worms, viruses, or organized DDoS attacks."

- Anonymous (but VERY reliable) source
;-)
-------------

Whither Cybersecurity? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968885)

So, what, exactly, is the Department of Cybersecurity going to do? Monitor the Internet? Intercept virii? Rubberstamp Microsoft's agenda? Scan your email? Stop spam? Raid the homes of script kiddies? Side with the RIAA vs. 12-year-old girls? I really would like to know what "cybersecurity" entails.

And, fwiw, if the BSA "lauds" him, he can't be all that good news for open source.

If this man has any moral fiber and/or desire to defend privacy rights, it'll quickly be eroded under this administration.

Why am I so damned suspicious and cynical of everything this administration does? Is something wrong with me?

Re:Whither Cybersecurity? (1)

OmnipotentEntity (702752) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969090)

Isn't doing any monitoring whatsoever already in conflict with the constitution? Oh wait, damn, I'm sorry, I forgot about the Patriot Act.

So W pretty much just said, "Well, we're in an economic crisis. Let's spend more, pass Patriot Act II, piss off everyone who doesn't act like cattle, and attempt to control the internet."

Oh this is bound to work out well. -_-;;

But why is the US doing this? Isn't the Internet an international thing? Shouldn't this be delegated to the UN.

___________

Interview on Frontline (5, Informative)

hairy moose (256972) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968886)

For those who are unfamilliar with him, here's a recent Frontline interview [pbs.org] .

Symantec getting very cosy (4, Informative)

Vainglorious Coward (267452) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968891)

Amit Yoran is of course, a VP at Symantec. That would be the same company whose COO, John Schwartz, recently caused a storm [smh.com.au] by calling for laws to make it a criminal offence to share information and tools online which could be used by malicious hackers and virus writers.

Am I alone in putting two and two together and becoming alarmed at the implication?

Re:Symantec getting very cosy (1)

BrynM (217883) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969066)

Am I alone in putting two and two together and becoming alarmed at the implication?
No. There's some guy named Ashcroft, some guy named Cheney and some guy named Bush who are right there with you. Of course they are alarmed that nobody thought of it sooner and that anyone would resist. Oh, and they have minions... You probably don't.

You Are Not Alone (1)

stanwirth (621074) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969398)

Amit Yoran is of course, a VP at Symantec. That would be the same company whose COO, John Schwartz, recently caused a storm by calling for laws to make it a criminal offence to share information and tools online which could be used by malicious hackers and virus writers. Am I alone in putting two and two together and becoming alarmed at the implication?

The more worrying thing (IMHO) was that "The BSA Lauded his Selection." -- so it will it be a criminal offence to "share information and tools online which could be used by..." Open Source Programmers.

I'm tellin' ya, they're trying to make Linux illegal.

Rip-Tech (3, Informative)

silconous (636675) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968901)

Rip-Tech was one of the largest security monitoring firms in the country, I can only see this as a good thing. Besides the goverment already has moved a majority of it's firewalls over to symantec long time ago.

I remebmer when I went to the raptor training 75% of the guys there were goverment types or working on goverment contracts.

Does this change anything? (1)

ice-monk (646562) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968903)

So far the "homeland security" dept. is just that. It's a department. It relies on other agencies (CIA [cia.gov] and FBI [fbi.gov] ) to protect the USA against terrorism. The problem is that departments of *any* sort hate working together and because Homeland security has nothing to bargain with except for it's name nothing will happen. Besides the FBI and CIA want to redeem themselves after 9/11.
The cybersecurity part is already handled by the FBI and has been for years. The only danger I can see is if the Homeland Security dept. got control of things like Carnivore. and linked it to 'terroist' db's etc.

Guide to Cyber-Security (1)

Eberlin (570874) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968950)

Yoran Nmap and Yoran Nessus
and Yoran Bastille or Yoran SELinux

This was funny until Yoran out of puns.

Cybersecurity, on the other hand, is supposedly not a joke.

Somebody Quiz this Expert (1)

Esion Modnar (632431) | more than 10 years ago | (#6968974)

I want to know if he really is an expert, or just another pointy-haired manager type who knows some buzzwords and how to run a PowerPoint presentation.

Re:Somebody Quiz this Expert (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6969152)

http://www.mitvcpi.org/Bios/Amit.Yoran.Bio.doc

Amit Yoran
Vice President, Managed Security Services Operations
Symantec Corporation

Amit Yoran is Vice President of Managed Security Services Operations at Symantec, where he
leverages extensive information security experience in both the public and private sectors.
In the private sector, Amit provided 24x7x365 managed security monitoring for small to me
dium enterprises, as well as a number of Fortune 500 companies. Considering public sector
experience, Amit has worked with a number of agencies, including the Pentagon, where he wor
ked with national and international law enforcement and intelligence organizations to preve
nt and respond to security breaches of national infrastructure networks.

Prior to joining Symantec, Amit was president and chief executive officer of Riptech, a man
aged security services provider that he founded in 1998. Previous to this role, Amit serve
d as Director of the Vulnerability Assessment and Assistance Program for the U.S. Departmen
t of Defense Computer Emergency Response Team (DoD/CERT).

Amit Yoran earned a M.S. in Computer Security from The George Washington University and a B .S. in
Computer Science with honors from The United States Military Academy at West Point. Additionally,
he serves as a member of The George Washington University adjunct faculty.

That name sounds foreign. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6968993)

Did they do a background check on this guy? Is he muslim? Does he have links to known or suspected terrorist groups? I'm not sure I can trust anyone with a name like that.

Color coded alert levels (2, Funny)

rsborg (111459) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969004)

Wow,

Anyone wonder how long it will take until we have easy to understand color coded virus "terrah" alert levels [wackyneighbor.com] ?

Huh? (1)

fshalor (133678) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969037)

You mean, like, the're not giving it to someone at microsoft this time? What's going on here. :)

Too bad (2)

eyegone (644831) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969085)

He won't be able to get into the office with a furrun sounding name like that.

This time it is On-Topic (2, Funny)

craw (6958) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969099)

I, for one, welcome our new cyber-security overlord!

information on Amit Yoran (4, Informative)

kaan (88626) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969142)

I've never heard of this guy, so I just google'd him [google.com] , and found all kinds of things, including this
interview with him [pbs.org] from March 13, 2003, and this brief biography [216.239.57.104] . He is currently vice president of Managed Security Services Operations for Symantec, and previously worked for the U.S. Department of Defense Computer Emergency Response Team (DoD/CERT).

kinda nice to see that the future "Head of Homeland Cybersecurity" at least has a formal c.s. education, and some obvious real-world experience.

Great name (1)

TLouden (677335) | more than 10 years ago | (#6969147)

Did bush and his monkeys come up with the name? I mean come on, who whould call that department anything cyber. Kinda like that add about becoming a 'cybercop'. This all just makes my wanna puke.

oh fsck (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6969197)

I got to witness ISS getting the "dept" involved firsthand with a recent Apache bug...... they decided that Free Operating Systems were not "real vendors" and kept us all out of the loop, so then we all got to find out about the bug with the rest of the public. The few "trusted" parties would have been looking at some treason if they had notified their friends in other affected projects.

Thanks ISS... again. This will be a huge unimprovement. I fear Germany will become the new world center for computer security if these boneheads have their way.

Microsoft Viri Inevitabilities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6969358)

It's sure gonna be fun when DHS gets it's first taste of M$ virus du jour.

Can't wait for the egg to hit their face. Of course, they'll find a 15 year old scape-goat to blame it all on...

We are within the first few hours of the DHS and they've already made a serious mistake.

I'm not so sure this is good (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#6969390)

Symantic is the company that wants to keep all security related info away from most of the folks in the security industry. Seems like they are more concerned with making money than security.

I'm hoping that's why he left Symantic for his new position.
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