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Nokia 7600 All-in-One Phone

michael posted about 11 years ago | from the no-kitchen-sink dept.

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prostoalex writes "The new Nokia 7600, reviewed by people at MobileMag is a 3G/GSM phone with radically new design and built-in functionality of an MP3 player, multimedia browser and digital camera. The phone supports WCDMA as well as GSM 900/1800. Some pictures of the product are available at Nokia's site. This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor."

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I VOMIT ON TODDLERS! (642865) | about 11 years ago | (#7063531)

The pitter patter of toddlers playing in my vomit makes me giggle. Vomit on your toddler today!


Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063613)

Can anyone explain to me what a "toddler" is? I'm from France.


Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063764)

Toddler == young child


Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063809)

Why would you Americans want to vomit on them? That does not make sense!


Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063861)

Can anyone explain to me what a "toddler" is? I'm from France.

Yes. 'Toddler' is a derogatory term for 'person who is french or is of french descent' and is not used in polite company.

GNAA - 0 to hello.jpg in 4.6 seconds! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063532)

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By purchasing a SCO Intellectual Property License, customers avoid infringement of SCO's intellectual property rights in Linux 2.4 and Linux 2.5 kernels and assure Darl financial security for the purchase of his second home. Because the SCO license authorizes run-time use only, customers also comply with the General Public License, under which Linux is distributed. Source may still be distributed under the terms of the GPL, however source distributors are held accountable for all violation of SCO's IP. Indemnification is provided for customers of runtime clients only. Read that twice, dirty hippy. You're not in the clear yet.

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Hmmm.... (-1, Troll)

beady (710116) | about 11 years ago | (#7063535)

I wonder if it has an X server....

Can you hear me now? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063550)

You're breaking up! Can you hear me now? Hello? Can you heare me? Hello?

Aw screw it, I'll just sit here and snap pictures or play a lame game!

Re:Can you hear me now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063589)

I for one, welcome our new Nokia All-in-One overlords.

Brett Glass 0wnz j00! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063556)

Hey Poul-Henning "asshole" Kamp, Brett Glass ownz j00!

Astro Glass

Wheres.... (0, Redundant)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | about 11 years ago | (#7063560)

Does it have a Kitchen sink? How about Xwindows? What about a full video-confrencing suite? Is it bluetooth enabled?

The top question: Emacs or VI?

Re:Wheres.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063583)

Yes, it's all here [] !

Re:Wheres.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063661)


Re:Wheres.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063715)

I fail what, monkeyboy?

Vim! You Ninnie. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063682)

nuff said.

First attempt? (5, Informative)

miodekk (680870) | about 11 years ago | (#7063565)

> This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor.

AFAIR Nokia was the first cellular phone maker, who introduced combined phone and PDA (Nokia Communicator). It wasn't maybe "lightweight and thin", but the times were different.


Re:First attempt? (1)

DanoTime (677061) | about 11 years ago | (#7063624)

Strange shape it is... more like some star trek console design. I think they're trying to pre-empt the N-Gage feel and get people used to a different look and feel.

Ugly.. (-1)

epiphani (254981) | about 11 years ago | (#7063567)

My God, that this is terrible looking. I can barely let blackberrys' pass as cell phones, but that thing doesnt even look like a PDA, it looks like neither.

It accually kinda reminds me of that kids game with the four different buttons that make four different sounds, and you have to replay the sounds the game kicks out - and it gets faster and faster and faster.

If they want to marry everything together, put it on my wristwatch and give me a bluetooth hands-free set for the phone.

Re:Butt Ugly.. (1)

ferret70 (154171) | about 11 years ago | (#7063595)

It's looks like a woman's compact for makeup. Maybe that's who're they're targeting(?)...

Re:Butt Ugly.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063852)

Hmm. You sound like the sort of guy who'd chop a lady's feet off and jizz on her bleeding stumps. Get away from me you pervert.

real, real ugly (1, Funny)

ed.han (444783) | about 11 years ago | (#7063663)

well, i wouldn't say that it failing to resemble a PDA necessarily makes it ugly, but yes, it certainly is. it looks vaguely like a simon (that's what that game is called) designed by someone who's read one too many ikea catalogs.

but this leads to an interesting question: what really is the ideal form factor for a PDA/phone? does it necessarily resemble something we've seen before? is the clamshell/ST: OS model the right direction?

the nokia designers appear to think that the compact CD player is a reasonable format but it's unwieldy, would be hard to hold to your ear for any period of time, and if you answer a phone too fast, you stand a chance of KOing yourself. i can just see it now:


"doh!" [as owner accidentally smites self]

you know, i hope this thing is popular: maybe that way, my train ride will be quieter...


Re:Ugly.. (3, Insightful)

debianlinux (548082) | about 11 years ago | (#7063745)

It appears to me to be a rather intelligent design. Both hands can be used to quickly manipulate buttons (as opposed to palming while pecking) without obstructing the screen. As for answering a call, that's what headphones are for. As to the 1st poster concerning Bluetooth... RTFA!

Someone's calling on the Taco. (1)

Channard (693317) | about 11 years ago | (#7063829)

My God, that this is terrible looking. I can barely let blackberrys' pass as cell phones, but that thing doesnt even look like a PDA, it looks like neither.

Bear in mind this is from the company which brought us the N-Gage, a device which has been described as looking like a taco and requires you to remove the battery to change game. Nokia make fine phones but something seems to have gone wonky of late with their work in other areas.

Re:Ugly.. (1)

in7ane (678796) | about 11 years ago | (#7063854)

For some reason all of this reminds me of SouthPark: 105 []

"This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor."

"The elephant is much too much big for Kyle to keep in the house, so he tries to bring it to school. Cartman mentions that he got a pot-bellied pig which is small enough to keep in the house" ... "Kyle plans to cross breed his elephant with Cartman's pig" ... "Terrence presents a five-assed monkey and Cartman's pig gives birth. Only the result looks nothing like a elephant-pig combination..."

Why oh why are 3G phones so ugly...

Sad day (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063572)

Robert Palmer, 54, has died of a heart attack in Paris. [] You may remember the song "Addicted to Love which propelled him to stardom.

Re:Sad day (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063636)

Quorum also has a detailed report of this on their website [] . Truly, he will be missed.

Don't click on the parent link! (0, Offtopic)

twoslice (457793) | about 11 years ago | (#7063645) - need I say more??

Re:Sad day (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063825)

That's a goatse link. A much better link for discussion of the sadly deceased musical genius is here [] .

Hmm...but why? (3, Insightful)

ideatrack (702667) | about 11 years ago | (#7063578)

I have seen these before, and yet never understood why it's necessary to combine the two? Both are small enough to be insignificant, and to be honest, if I was on the 'phone to a client, then I'd want to be able to use my PDA without having to stop talking. Isn't this a bit of a niche market?

Re:Hmm...but why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063710)

Of course you can talk while using the PDA part... For example, with Nokia 3650 just press the loudspeaker button to make the sound come out from the phone speaker and use the PDA to check stuff and just talk. That's it.

Round and round we go.... (5, Insightful)

raygundan (16760) | about 11 years ago | (#7063712)

Every time there's a converged device, we get comments like this. Likewise, every time we hear about a new gadget of some sort, we get comments suggesting it would be better if we tried cross-breeding it with a laptop.

Just stop for a second and realize that not everybody has the same tastes as you. Variety is good! People who want all that and a bag of chips can go buy a PDA/Phone/Camera/MP3/GPS, and people who just want a phone can get one of the simple no-nonsense Nokia models. People who like to have their pants stuffed with electronics can buy it all separately so they can practice juggling it all while simultaneously talking to clients on the phone.

In the end, we all benefit when there's choices. Quit complaining when a product isn't the same as the products you like-- and just go buy those instead.

And yes, I should probably heed my own advice.

Re:Round and round we go.... (4, Funny)

Glonoinha (587375) | about 11 years ago | (#7063884)

Cell phone
PDA ...
If I get one more device for my belt I qualify for a big yellow belt buckle the shape of a BAT.

Re:Hmm...but why? (1)

stevesliva (648202) | about 11 years ago | (#7063728)

It's like the all-in-one printer/scanner/copier machines... you get a crappy printer, crappy scanner, and a crappy copier all in one big clunky package that doesn't allow you to upgrade the discrete components. neat!

Re:Hmm...but why? (5, Funny)

ArmenTanzarian (210418) | about 11 years ago | (#7063758)

I'm reminded of a quote I heard on Dr. Katz once (I believe the guest was Jon Stewart), "Wow, a futon, great! During the day it's an uncomfortable couch and at night, it's an even more uncomfortable bed!" Why make things crappier, just to put them together?

Re:Hmm...but why? (4, Insightful)

Ami Ganguli (921) | about 11 years ago | (#7063769)

It's a matter of opinion I guess. I stopped carrying my Palm after about six months. I didn't like having both a PDA and a phone hanging from my belt. For me, the more things they can cram into a cell-phone-sized package the better.

Also, just making the phone smaller is useless at this point. To have any real effect you'd have to shrink the screen and keyboard to an annoyingly small size. Better to keep a reasonable form factor and just put more things in the case.

As for using the PDA while you're talking, the hands-free earpiece is what you need. Also good for freaking people out in the supermarket as you appear to talk to an invisible person.

Re:Hmm...but why? (2, Funny)

RoLi (141856) | about 11 years ago | (#7063810)

As an owner of a Treo, I can only say that I will never buy PDAs and phones seperately.

The main reason is that no, they are not small enough to be insignificant. I need my front right pocket for my keys and my front left pocket for my Treo and the back pockets break things when I sit down, where could I possibly put another device?

That is a nice design (1)

3.5 stripes (578410) | about 11 years ago | (#7063579)

However, doesn't really look much like a phone.

I'd feel pretty stupid holding it up against my face to talk. Although, a bluetooth headset might make a nice addition... Handset's a bit counter intuitive too.

Not that I really need a 3G phone anyhow.

Re:That is a nice design (1)

3.5 stripes (578410) | about 11 years ago | (#7063621)

Sorry, handset = phone buttons.

Upsidedown? (1)

ultraw (99206) | about 11 years ago | (#7063590)

after a first glance at the pictures, can someone tell me how to hold it so you are not listening to the microphone and talking to the speaker?

Re:Upsidedown? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063639)

In case you haven't noticed, speaker is in the upper-left corner.

Dear God thats a big phone. (3, Insightful)

iainl (136759) | about 11 years ago | (#7063596)

I already fail to use my PDA as much as I might do because its slightly too big to fit in my pockets. This thing is over 3 inches wide, which is half as much again, and surely isn't going to be comfortable to hold in one hand.

As much as part of me finds it an amusing gadget, this really does seem to be part of Nokia's drive to add so many other applications to phones that they stop being any good at phone calls. I wish my 3510i was as good at the phone basics as the old 3210.

Re:Dear God thats a big phone. (1)

stevesliva (648202) | about 11 years ago | (#7063660)

I agree, it's big. And it also sounds like I couldn't have it here in the States even if I wanted one, "the Nokia 7600 is expected to be available in volume in Europe, Africa, Middle East and Asia-Pacific in fourth quarter of 2003."

since it's nokia, brief in finnish.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063597)

hyi vittu kun on ruma

english summary:

buy siemens instead

Re:since it's nokia, brief in finnish.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063892)


jos et osta nokiaa, tulee turpaan - perkele!

Can they design a phone... (1)

Crow_T_Servo (690247) | about 11 years ago | (#7063606)

...where the buttons are laid out like an actual phone? Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I like the old style where the buttons are laid out in a grid. I know that because it's also a PDA that it's design might preclude it from having such a layout, but it sure doesn't look like a phone.

Re:Can they design a phone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063747)

Who needs buttons for typing phone numbers anymore? Yeah, nobody. So why not let the layout to develop something optimal for text messaging and games for what buttons are mostly nowadays used.

Re:Can they design a phone... (1)

frodo from middle ea (602941) | about 11 years ago | (#7063793)

And I thought Old Fashioned meant buttons laid out on a Dial

I thought they had learned after the 3650, but.. (5, Funny)

halo1982 (679554) | about 11 years ago | (#7063609)

Does anyone else thinks this looks like a $600 football?

Please Report News, Not Trivia: +1 Patriotic (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063611)

Why don't you report news about The Robber Barons [] ?

Thank you and have an Ashcroft-free weekend,

New Ugly Duckling (4, Funny)

Lizard_King (149713) | about 11 years ago | (#7063622)

Makes me feel a little better for buying the 3650. Now I own the second ugliest phone in the universe.

Re:New Ugly Duckling (2, Informative)

eyegor (148503) | about 11 years ago | (#7063836)

Yeah, maybe. I have the 3650 as well. The phone rocks, but the dialpad is a bit weird.

So far I'm not too impressed with the Bluetooth headsets out there either. I bought one from Belkin and one from Jabra. Neither one would work with the 3650's Bluetooth profile. I suspect that the 7600 will have similar issues

The 7600 looks too bizzare and the keypad looks like it will be nearly useless.

all in one? really? (4, Insightful)

Adler (131568) | about 11 years ago | (#7063628)

wheres the GPS mode? the full functional PDA features? maybe even a radio tuner? with 29MB of memory how useful is this as a mp3 player? more than all that what i'd kill for in a phone/phone service is better quality call sound. if 3G services have such a high data rate for better video capabilities, then why dont they use that to make calls sound less like a phone call and more like your sitting next to the person your talking to.

Re:all in one? really? (2, Informative)

shakey_deal (602291) | about 11 years ago | (#7063773)

Say hello to the Motorola A920.

Triband GSM 900/1800MHz/1900MHz
Dimensions: 60 x 148 x 24mm
Weight: 212g
Screen Size: 39.9 x 61mm
Screen Resolution: 208 x 320, 16 bit / 64K colors
Built-In 8MB memory with expandable SD/MMC slot
Integrated camera (640 x 480 resolution)
Symbian OS
Audio playback - 128kbps (AAC, MP3) or 64kbps (WMA)
Audio streaming - 128kbps (AAC)
Video playback - 256kbps
Video streaming - 64kbps to 384kbps
Java applications support
Opera browser

Motorola a920 []

The Nokia is more of 2.5G phone since there is no support for video calls.

Re:all in one? really? (1)

pctainto (325762) | about 11 years ago | (#7063774)

why dont they use that to make calls sound less like a phone call and more like your sitting next to the person your talking to.

If you went through landlines, they constrict voice to the 0-5kHz range, saving space and getting rid of the harmonics above that range that make people's voice sound 'normal'. Do you really think that the phone system can withstand a quadrupling of bandwidth that each phone call takes up (~20kHz is threshold of human hearing). You're not the only one using a phone, ya know.

Re:all in one? really? (2, Interesting)

kinnell (607819) | about 11 years ago | (#7063875)

Do you really think that the phone system can withstand a quadrupling of bandwidth that each phone call takes up

The 4kHz bandwidth of the phone system was designed in from year dot because it is the lowest figure which can practically be used. The perceived quality could be vastly improved by simply doubling this figure - it's not necessary to reproduce hi-fi quality. This would not cripple the phone system, because the take up of phones which supported this would be gradual. The phone companies could charge double the price to those who wished to use it as an added value service. As the profits of the phone companies are mostly derived from selling bandwidth, this would be a sound business move.

Re:all in one? really? (1)

liquidsin (398151) | about 11 years ago | (#7063876)

Tell me about it! I mean, for six hundred bucks I expect a blowjob, or at least a little rub-n-tug!

I dub thee (2, Funny)

BigBir3d (454486) | about 11 years ago | (#7063629)

"The Suppository"

Re:I dub thee (1)

Adler (131568) | about 11 years ago | (#7063653)

"The Suppository"

prof. Farnsworth is a slashdotter?

Re:I dub thee (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063659)

heheh, doubt you'll get modded up but that's pretty funny.

Re:I dub thee (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063733)

Shut up []


Kedisar (705040) | about 11 years ago | (#7063651)

Nokia 7600, 3G/GSM, MP3, WCDMA, GSM 900/1800, PDA

Apparently, Nokia joined the AOEWLTAFE. (Asso. of Engineers Who Like to Use Acronyms for Everything)

Personally, I think it's very G. (good)

PDA? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063658)

This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor.

What gives you the idea that this is supposed to be a foray into the PDA arena by Nokia? The tiny display doesn't make it seem like a PDA. The lack of a stylus input doesn't make it seem like a PDA.

It looks like a repackaged 7650, designed to sell to rich German kids with more money than sense.

one important question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063662)

Can this thing fit in my nose?

Us Luddites(sp?) (1)

MisanthropicProggram (597526) | about 11 years ago | (#7063664)

What sucks for us luddites or cheapskates is that it's getting harder to find just a plain old simple cell phone. I don't want to spend more than $40 for a phone OR have to sign a contract that has has terms that are grossly not in my favor to get one for free. Besides, all these features are added so that YOU, the cell plan consumer, will burn up more and more minutes and subsequently more money. Sending pictures, downloading music, etc... over a cell phone is an expensive thing to do that just increases you plan's cost and lines the pockets of telcom CEO's.

Sorry about the rant.

Rant away, good sir... (1)

raygundan (16760) | about 11 years ago | (#7063780)

But please be aware that you can get unlimited data plans (for very little more) so that all that picture sending and whatnot is cheaper than actually talking. Data minutes on modern cell networks (GSM/GPRS or 1xRTT) do not require the phone to occupy a voice circuit.

I might also recommend the Nokia 3565 and 3390 as phones that appear to be relatively simple. T-Mobile has both for $50 with no contract, which is outside your range-- but I don't recall *ever* being able to buy a $40 cell phone without signing something.

Your point is well taken, though-- there are customers enough for both types of phones. I hope you find one that suits your tastes and your wallet, and i'll continue looking for one that will let me quit carrying 4 devices around with me.

Re:Rant away, good sir... (1)

RevMike (632002) | about 11 years ago | (#7063907)

I might also recommend the Nokia 3565 and 3390 as phones that appear to be relatively simple.

I like the 82xx series from Nokia. It does the cell phone thing just right for me. It is small enough to be unobtrusive, but large enough that the buttons are easy to use. It has very good battery life. The UI for the phone book and such is intuitive.

Just don't ask it to be anything other than a phone.

For the record, I'm using the 8265 on an AT&T TDMA network.

Cheap service... (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | about 11 years ago | (#7063806)

I don't want to spend more than $40 for a phone OR have to sign a contract that has has terms that are grossly not in my favor

I don't know what your situation in the US might be (sorry if I'm making an incorrect assumption) but here in Australia, an option is to buy a pre-paid mobile phone, use the service that comes with it until it expires and then take out a flat-rate pay-per-call plan using the handset which you now own outright.

It isn't what I did, since I wanted a slightly groovier handset, but it is a potentially very cheap option.

Other links: (4, Informative)

chrestomanci (558400) | about 11 years ago | (#7063666)

Review in The Register here [] .

Nokia page about the phone, with a better listing of fetures here [] .

Still no videocalls. (1)

shakey_deal (602291) | about 11 years ago | (#7063668)

Making it unusable for most 3G vendors so who is gonna sell it? The main selling point of 3G IS videocalling, despite what Nokia says. And just 28 Mb memory making it a crappy mp3-player (and that memory is for storing pictures as well).

what's the the numeric keypads ... (4, Insightful)

Frag-A-Muffin (5490) | about 11 years ago | (#7063680)

on the new nokias being in funny layouts?! I know I'm not the only one, but sometimes, I only know phone numbers by pattern recognition on a proper numeric pad! :) If I use a phone with a different layout, man, there goes a bunch of my friends! :)

I know you do it too ... admit it!

Re:what's the the numeric keypads ... (1)

turkeyphant (648612) | about 11 years ago | (#7063732)

Exactly. First Apple changed the iPod's key layout and now Nokia's been pissing about with their numberpads. Is there nothing left to be said for good old muscle memory?

Even if the user interface is left unchanged, it takes some time for users to get used to the new positions of vital keys...

Re:what's the the numeric keypads ... (0)

gl4ss (559668) | about 11 years ago | (#7063828)

man.. ever heard of this thing.. umm... what was it called, oh yeah, phonebook functionality that has only been on all(that i've seen) for the last 10 years?

what's more important is that if you can or can not to adjust writing text on the pad(for which it seems it could be ok for two-thumbing).

however, the phone model seems like a hip'n'trendy model rather than model for real usage(7 series, lacks mmc card, funky design..)

Re:what's the the numeric keypads ... (4, Funny)

mccalli (323026) | about 11 years ago | (#7063871)

on the new nokias being in funny layouts?!

Aah, young 'un. Time was, back in my day, that phones were all circular dials like the 3650, and it was these bizarre three-in-a-row pads that were the weird ones.

Well...that's only just true - I'm not that old really. However, I was certainly around to see the dying days of the circular dials in the mid-to-late 1970s. Back then, men were men, women were women, small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri and phones were real phones. They were made of bakelite, had clicking dialing mechanisms and sported proper bells inside. An important side effect was that they were also heavy enough to be used as a decent murder weapon.

Not sure about this new thingy, but the recent 3650 just resurrected the good old days.


Where's the review? (4, Insightful)

gambit3 (463693) | about 11 years ago | (#7063690)

That sounds like a press release if I ever read one.

I have no problem with press releases, but the submitter should *not* have claimed it was a review.

Tch! (1)

Scooter (8281) | about 11 years ago | (#7063691)

It won't go in my Nokia car kit. I've stuck with a relaible but boring 6310i because it does. I was hoping that when Nokia got around to maiing a modern device (Like the Sony Erricsson one) that it would be plug compatible and fit in the cradle.

Guess I'll have to get the car re-plumbed.

Re:Tch! (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | about 11 years ago | (#7063847)

I used to be a big fan of Ericsson's phones, but I have to say that the last time I was shopping for a handset in the low to medium price range, I was very disappointed by the clunkiness of their handsets. I ended up deserting them and going for a Motorola T720 instead.

Well, *almost* everything (1)

faust2097 (137829) | about 11 years ago | (#7063699)

It has a built-in MP3/AAC player* but no removable memory. It says it holds "up to 50 minutes" of music which by most companies' gauges means that it can hold 45 minutes of mono 64kpbs files.

*obligitory "waaaaah no OGG support!" comment included here at no extra cost.

It may just be me... (3, Insightful)

turkeyphant (648612) | about 11 years ago | (#7063701)

...but I've never understood the purpose of 'phones which can play music yet only have enough room for "up to 50 minutes of near CD-quality music". Go-betweens rarely turn out well and what's the point in having to convert your music to 96kb/s just to fit a whole album on there?

Mobile 'phones often suffer from poor battery life as it is and I can only see this feature reducing it yet more. Why include an additional "feature" that is detrimental to the device's main function? It's a pain having to switch the music on a player at the best of times, but why would you consider it when you've only got fifty minutes and no upgradabilty? I can't help thinking it's only bloated for the sake of it and to appear more trendy. I dread to learn the ways in which Nokia have organised music downloads straight into the 'phone from mobile services...

Finally, I'm sure I'm not the only one to lament the lack of Vorbis compatibility. As for LAME, I bet you could barely even fit one song on there...

Re:It may just be me... (1)

yomegaman (516565) | about 11 years ago | (#7063761)

I've got a Kyocera 7135, and my experience is that using the MP3 player doesn't run the battery down very quickly at all, as long as you have the screen off. The phone-related radio stuff and the screen are the big battery killers, not the CPU and the audio output.

Global Grid Computing... (1)

El_Ge_Ex (218107) | about 11 years ago | (#7063717)

is a 3G/GSM phone with radically new design and built-in functionality of an MP3 player, multimedia browser and digital camera. The phone supports WCDMA as well as GSM 900/1800

Wake me up when it's possible to have a cluster of these. Until then, I'm not impressed.


What, no ogg support? (0, Offtopic)

Spamhead (462189) | about 11 years ago | (#7063725)


Number order (1)

BaltoAaron (242546) | about 11 years ago | (#7063739)

I remember a suprising amount of my phone numbers by pattern. (That's just me) I would have a very hard time transposing the shapes in my head to the new vertical alignment of the number keys on this thing. No thanks.

ICK! (1)

Chanc_Gorkon (94133) | about 11 years ago | (#7063748)

First off, it's ugly. Second, how in the WORLD am I supposed to dial with one hand???? Third IT'S UGLY!

What's wrong Nokia? regular looking (and useful) keypad too good for you? No wonder many Nokia users have all of their numbers in the phone instead of thier head! It's faster to hit a speed dial then a 7 digit phone number.

Re:ICK! (1)

grub (11606) | about 11 years ago | (#7063808)

how in the WORLD am I supposed to dial with one hand????

Get the drummer from Def Leppard to show you his technique.

Re:ICK! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063869)

You Don't.

Put down the damn phone and pay attention to operating the vehicle.

More than meets the eye. (2, Insightful)

flowbee64 (708623) | about 11 years ago | (#7063755)

Sure, the new 7600 from Nokia has everything. But if we all just wait, we can get the Nokia 7800, with all the features of the 7600 plus the ability to turn into a car or jet plane and fight evil robots and dinosaurs and stuff.

And while I'm waiting, I'll get the NGage instead, because the last thing I need is a cellphone that's just a cellphone. I need to spend way too much money on something that has tons of awesome features, but as a phone has bad reception and drops calls all the time.

more photos here (0, Offtopic)

selderrr (523988) | about 11 years ago | (#7063763)

here []

A damd fine machine, I might add !

Cute with a capital Q (3, Insightful)

unfortunateson (527551) | about 11 years ago | (#7063781)

I like it: it's small, but they didn't try to shoehorn in a full keyboard for my sausage-like fingers to mash. The goofy key layout looks pretty optimal for texting with thumbs, actually.

Regarding "How do I use the PDA and talk at the same time?" -- use a $60 bluetooth headset.

What is it missing to make my perfect convergence unit?
a) Higher-res screen. According to the specs at Nokia [] , it's only 128x160, less than an older-generation Palm. Give me at least 320x240, and we're talking useful
b) Memory slot. I'm not terribly fussy. My camera is CF, my Palm is SD (but I don't own any devices for it, because it doesn't have good enough sound for me to want to download MP3s), my laptop supports SD and MS but not CF (which is solved with a PCMCIA card)
c) Maybe a stylus. I've gotten very used to touchscreen on my Palm -- it's sorely missed on my GPSr for selecting items and text entry.
d) Oh yeah, GPS receiver.

(a), (c) and (d) are mainly price issues. (b) means they want you to keep paying to download over the phone lines.

Re:Cute with a capital Q (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 11 years ago | (#7063896)

the memory slot is probably a size issue(it's 87mm*78mm), and they probably had hard time figuring out howto stick a mmc slot into that(3650 and 6600 and ngage have mmc slots for cheap memory extensions)

gotta run...

I want just a phone (3, Insightful)

olivrwendl (465918) | about 11 years ago | (#7063785)

My dream phone is small, lightweight,and has a long battery life. Combining multiple features tkaes away from all three of these characteristics. Am I weird for wanting a phone that is just a phone?

Nokia's productpage (1)

akiro (645099) | about 11 years ago | (#7063787)

Here's a link to Nokia's official product-page for it:

Nokia 7600 []

3650? n-Gage? 7600? (1)

Chibi Merrow (226057) | about 11 years ago | (#7063791)

The new Nokia 7600 Phone, the latest in our line of products that we'll tell you that you love but you'll hate anyway!

At least this product's announcement didn't include as much BLATANT STUPIDITY [] as previous ones...

P.S. I accidentally smashed the faceplate all to hell on my 5165 two days ago... Any sugggestions as to a good/inexpensive brand/model to go with besides Nokia? Preferably a Gate phone?

Re:3650? n-Gage? 7600? (1)

howajo (707075) | about 11 years ago | (#7063838)

just buy another faceplate for your 5165, there's nothing better out there.

Stupidest Phone EVER... (0, Troll)

howajo (707075) | about 11 years ago | (#7063797)

Perhaps, if Nokia plans on continuing the trend of High Feature/Low Quality phones, they should concentrate on making one with a smooth contoured design so that it will hurt less when I tell them to shove it up their ass. 51XX was the last good phone they made.

Just Don't Get It (1)

Metal_Demon (694989) | about 11 years ago | (#7063818)

Appearently Nokia doesn't understand that most sane people don't want to talk on giant crappy looking things. [] First a taco then this new atrocity, a laptop phone? (and no I don't mean a peripheral I mean holding a laptop up to your head and talking) Besides regular phones are getting more and more PDA like all the time, storing to do lists, memos, etc why don't they work on improving that?

Availability? (2)

mb12036 (516109) | about 11 years ago | (#7063843)

Did anybody see anything about US availability? Looks like it is being released about every place but here.

Very nice. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7063860)

But does it run Linux ???

I think one of this babies [] running linux would be
a better pda.

Nokia phones (1)

stratjakt (596332) | about 11 years ago | (#7063864)

Is this unit going to be compatible with N-Gage games?

A variety of N-gage compatible phones - and a cheaper game only device with no phone attached.

That's the only thing that could prevent N-gage being stillborn, imo.

Is it just me... (1)

Craig Maloney (1104) | about 11 years ago | (#7063894)

Is it just me, or has Nokia topped itself in making the ugliest phones known to man? Good LORD, I wouldn't want to be caught with that thing as my communication's device. Ugh!

Ugly, not designed for human use... (3, Interesting)

Fnkmaster (89084) | about 11 years ago | (#7063900)

Sorry, but I want a cell phone with PDA capabilities, not a PDA with cell phone capabilities, and certainly not a weird square looking communicator device.

By far my favorite so far is the Samsung SPH-i500 (see it here [] ), and it's upcoming successor, the SGH-i500, which will be the GSM version, with Palm OS 5 and other goodies.

This is what I've been waiting for, for some time - a cell phone, with a Palm OS PDA built in, and complete integration between the two. You can manage one address book, click on your Palm address book and dial from there, search with a Palm web browser to find restaurants while walking the streets of New York, and pretty much do all the stuff I've always wanted to do with a PDA, but couldn't because it didn't have an internet connection, and getting one added on was too bulky/expensive, and browsing on your cell phone was waaaay too awkward for anything other than the simplest polling of your email to see any new subject lines, maybe reading a short email from a friend.

The CNET reviews are definitely mixed, but I spent an hour or two playing with my friend's SPH-i500 and I'm totally hooked. Now I just need to convince myself to spend 600 bucks on it, after my last large PDA expenditure on a Clie that I use once every month or two.

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