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VeriSign Shutting Down Site Finder

timothy posted about 11 years ago | from the but-guys-what's-the-big-deal dept.

The Internet 234

00420 writes "VeriSign, the administrator of the .com and .net domains, made plans to shut down its new Site Finder service Friday, after the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ordered the company to undo controversial changes. Of course they're not taking it down because it affected the internet, they're just doing it to keep good relations with the technical community. (Seems a little late for that doesn't it?)" The shutdown is not complete yet, though: VeriSign hasn't changed their wildcard DNS entry (64.94.110.11).

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Bout time (0, Redundant)

pro-mpd (412123) | about 11 years ago | (#7133448)

I was wondering when this would happen

Re:Bout time (1)

Gwala (309968) | about 11 years ago | (#7133451)

It was inevitable, but. They did make a small fortune while it was running methinks.

-Gwala

Re:Bout time (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133493)

Yeah, I'm sure a bunch of people said to themselves, "Wow! I can't believe nobody has registered AMZOAN.COM yet. I better hop on this!"

Re:Bout time (1, Insightful)

ctour (645366) | about 11 years ago | (#7133533)

I'm sure that site has already been registered as a porn site, it seems the only people who would have had anything to lose in this case would be the porn sites, they take all the misspelled words and wrong domain names and take them as their own. Whitehouse.com? Homestarunner.com?

Whitehouse is a porn magazine (2, Informative)

DrSkwid (118965) | about 11 years ago | (#7133557)

has been for years

Re:Bout time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133560)

Actually, amzoan.com redirects to amazon.com.

Re:Bout time (1)

k12linux (627320) | about 11 years ago | (#7133672)

it seems the only people who would have had anything to lose in this case would be the porn sites, they take all the misspelled words and wrong domain names and take them as their own.

Actually they don't lose out at all. Requests to domains they hadn't purchased yet don't get to their site anyhow. If anything it might actually increase their traffic. If people get used to the idea that "if I misspell I get an automatic search to show me the right spelling", they might pay even less attention when typing in URLs. So there would be more typos that might go to a port site.

Re:Bout time (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133466)

I was wondering when this would happen

Yeah! Congratulations to your first first post!

Re:Bout time (0, Redundant)

pro-mpd (412123) | about 11 years ago | (#7133514)

Not my first, but my first in a while...

just voicing my opinion

Furst Poast (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133449)

Starwars Moment (2, Funny)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | about 11 years ago | (#7133454)

Anybody else having that giddy feeling right now? Like the first time you saw Luke blow up the Deathstar in A New Hope?

Re:Starwars Moment (4, Funny)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | about 11 years ago | (#7133482)

That means that we're going to have a bigger, badder SiteFinder pretty soon, right?

Re:Starwars Moment (4, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | about 11 years ago | (#7133566)

[Emperor Voice]I'm afraid the Site Finder will be quite operational by the time your friends arrive.[/Emperor Voice]

Oh, no (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133723)

Whatever you do, don't go to xoogle.com to test to see if Sitefinder is down yet.

IT'S A TRAP!

Re:Starwars Moment (5, Funny)

spektr (466069) | about 11 years ago | (#7133587)

That means that we're going to have a bigger, badder SiteFinder pretty soon, right?


We could find: "www.gnu.org"
There is a Web site at this address.

Are you sure? (*) No ( ) Yes [SUMBIT]

Did You Mean ?
We did find these similar Web addresses.

www.sun.com [sun.com]
www.microsoft.com [microsoft.com]
www.sco.com [sco.com]

Re:Starwars Moment (2, Funny)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | about 11 years ago | (#7133604)

" That means that we're going to have a bigger, badder SiteFinder pretty soon, right?"

My friend read your reply, and said, "Don't worry, Lando will blow it up and save us all."

To which I replied, "Lando is a fictional character who doesn't exist."

He got a very hurt, very serious look on his face and replied in a very shakey voice, "Lando WILL save us all!"

I made my exit from the computer lab shortly after for fear he would go wookie on me and rip my arms off.

Re:Starwars Moment (5, Informative)

NTmatter (589153) | about 11 years ago | (#7133495)

I'm not getting a good feeling about it. Look to the bottom of the article, and you'll see:
"ICANN is using anecdotal and isolated issues to attempt to regulate nonregistry services, but in the interests of further working with the technical community, we will
temporarily suspend Site Finder."
Perhaps they'll just rename to "site searcher" and declare that they've shut down the "Site Finder" service.

Re:Starwars Moment (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133542)

> I'm not getting a good feeling about it. Look to the bottom of the article, and you'll see:

Going with the Star Wars theme, aren't you supposed to say, "I have a bad feeling about this?"

Re:Starwars Moment (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133680)

Ackbar: It's a TRAP!!!!!!!!!

Re:Starwars Moment (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133576)

No. And frankly I didn't really care and didn't understand why so many geeks got their panties in a bind over it.

Re:Starwars Moment (4, Insightful)

Theatetus (521747) | about 11 years ago | (#7133652)

Easy: the one way to guarantee us geeks will get our panties in a BIND (heh heh) is to have a Responsible Designated Party (tm) violate an RFC or standard. The standard says a DNS server does not return an IP address when no such host or domain exists, NOT that the DNS server resolves the request to some "default no such domain" domain.

I think it also irked a lot of people because it really shows how much the Web has been pushing out all other Internet protocols to the point that the rest don't seem to matter to the Powers That Be anymore. Quite a few Internet users, I imagine, access email and news (and even chat) through the Web. But the other protocols are still there, and still in use.

Personally, it pissed me off because I administer several nameservers and when I mistype a domain in a dig or nslookup I want to SEE IMMEDIATELY that no such domain exists rather than remembering "oh right that's the Sitefinder IP address". Some of the scripts I've written depend, in fact, on nslookup saying "server can't find yaoho.com" and I've had to instead look for the sitefinder IP address.

Anyways, short answer is: geeks hate it because we tend to believe in standards since adhering to standards is the only reason the Internet got off the ground in the first place and it's just as important nowadays that we keep them up.

Re:Starwars Moment (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133674)

Thanks for ruining the ending for me.

Too little too late (4, Insightful)

Tack (4642) | about 11 years ago | (#7133467)

I won't be doing any future business with Verisign, and I plan to transfer my domains to another registrar.

I never much liked Verisign in the past, but since I already had an account there, using them to register new domains was simply the path of least resistance. But their SiteFinder is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Jason.

Re:Too little too late (1)

ApheX (6133) | about 11 years ago | (#7133486)

How long HAVE you been paying $35/yr for your domains?!

Re:Too little too late (1)

Halvard (102061) | about 11 years ago | (#7133786)

It's actually $19 / yr on a transfer or a 5 year renewal. That and 1000 frequent flier miles. If you host a fair number of domains, that's a lot of miles to acrue if you do the registrations/transfers.

Re:Too little too late (3, Interesting)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | about 11 years ago | (#7133687)

Not only that, but from now on I won't be registering any .com or .net domains. It'll be .org every time.

But is that all? (3, Insightful)

WanderingGhost (535445) | about 11 years ago | (#7133468)

Call me paranoid, but... I wonder if they'll try to revert the situation, or come up with some other (equally hazardous) idea to replace this one. If they invested some money into the idea, I guess they won't give up that easily.

Re:But is that all? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133504)

naaa....of course not. just because there is potential money to be made dosen't mean they will try something like this again.

Re:But is that all? (0, Offtopic)

Seraphim_72 (622457) | about 11 years ago | (#7133512)


Sir,

The Reynolds [reynoldskitchens.com] people called your shipment of hats is in.

MOD CLICHE UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133663)

What a dumbass. I, for one WELCOME our CLICHE OVERLORDS DUUUUH!!!!!!!!!!

Re:But is that all? (1)

Pyromage (19360) | about 11 years ago | (#7133520)

I hope that they realize that they won't be allowed to do something like this again; given that, it follows logically that they won't throw good money after bad. They may look for an equally offensive idea that *doesn't* violate everything good in the world (and therefore wouldn't get them sued), but I don't think they'll try this one again.

what...? (2, Funny)

TedCheshireAcad (311748) | about 11 years ago | (#7133469)

So.....go....ICANN?

I thought we didn't like them?

Re:what...? (2, Funny)

xanthines-R-yummy (635710) | about 11 years ago | (#7133488)

ICANN, YouCANN, we all CANN for ICANN!

Re:what...? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133638)

Cunt.

Re:what...? (4, Funny)

Kierthos (225954) | about 11 years ago | (#7133574)

We like them today, because they are hitting Verisign, who we hate more. Tomorrow they will do something stupid and we will hate ICANN again. Such is the way of things here on Slashdot.

Kierthos

Re:what...? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133712)

You do realize you can like some things they do, but not others, right?

Try it. Say "As a whole, I dislike ICANN, but they are right on with this whole SiteFinder thing." It makes you look like you can form a rational opinion on something, not this childish "give me some candy or you aren't my friend anymore" attitude that is so popular.

Welcome to Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133602)

Truth be told, noone gives a shit what we think.

Re:Welcome to Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133673)

Hey you, stop making noise.

Awwww... (2, Insightful)

Disco Stew (703497) | about 11 years ago | (#7133471)

I love how they play it off like: "Fine, ya big babies, we'll turn it off for a little bit; just to shut you up."

They're such a bunch of jackasses! It's like spitting in our faces for THEIR wrong-doing.

So... nothing about those lawsuits? (5, Insightful)

Gwala (309968) | about 11 years ago | (#7133478)

they're just doing it to keep good relations with the technical community.

So, it has nothing to do with the three lawsuits by godaddy, netster and their ilk?

Riight.

-Gwala

Re:So... nothing about those lawsuits? (1)

arodland (127775) | about 11 years ago | (#7133738)

Definitely not. The only thing it's about is pressure from ICANN -- who, in the long run, is not one whit better than Verisign.

How Does VeriSign Even Stay In Business? (2, Interesting)

jbottero (585319) | about 11 years ago | (#7133479)

I have a very difficult time understanding how VeriSign stays in business at all considering there are much better options for both domain registration and secure certificates.

Re:How Does VeriSign Even Stay In Business? (4, Informative)

op00to (219949) | about 11 years ago | (#7133498)

Where do you think the bulk of your domain registration fees go to?

Re:How Does VeriSign Even Stay In Business? (1)

godders (517242) | about 11 years ago | (#7133513)

They're trading off their name, and the fact that ICANN tasked them with managing the .com/.net tld's. Hopefully this will have produced enough bad press to make people think twice.. Unfortunately, as we all know, the chances of Big Business and the suits in the boardroom actually paying attention to the fact that every sysadmin on the planet was pissed off with them is pretty minimal. Unless of course we start presenting our point of view in a nice glossy brochure in a smarmy sales meeting...

Re:How Does VeriSign Even Stay In Business? (3, Informative)

mabu (178417) | about 11 years ago | (#7133544)

The answer is simple. Do your research. You'll find out that Verisign is owned by a bunch of very-well-connected people that seem to know their way around Langely all too well.

Re:How Does VeriSign Even Stay In Business? (1)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | about 11 years ago | (#7133561)

The answer is simple. Do your research. You'll find out that Verisign is owned by a bunch of very-well-connected people that seem to know their way around Langely all too well.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. Verisign sounds like basically any other government contractor. It's probably comprised of a lot of ex-civil servants who retired from their old high-power jobs in the government to take big contractor jobs with Verisign for much higher pay. Since they're still known around the government circles they're worth far more than non-government contractors would have been.

Re:How Does VeriSign Even Stay In Business? (1)

Nykon (304003) | about 11 years ago | (#7133545)

for the same reson people use AOL when there are far better and cheaper ways of connecting to the internet. It's one of the most visable and easiest to use ways of getting certs and registering names.

Re:How Does VeriSign Even Stay In Business? (2, Insightful)

k12linux (627320) | about 11 years ago | (#7133725)

Based on my experience, visibility and FUD seem to be the biggest factors. When it came to getting a cert, I've seen otherwise very intelligent people "play it safe" and go with Verisign. The same thing goes for registering domains.

As long as Verisign can get people to believe their 128-bit certs are better than the next guy's 128-bit cert, they'll get the premium. The problem is usually the people who control the money and decide which vendor to use. They're often not the ones who can evaluate based on technical merits and often the ones more susceptible to marketing.

But hey, that's what marketing is for right? Selling something based on perception instead of it's own merits?

Oww, my site finder! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133485)

I'm not supposed to get jigs in it!

Verisign.... verispensive (0, Redundant)

technopinion (469686) | about 11 years ago | (#7133487)

I stopped doing business with Verisign long ago (well, ok, with Network Solutions), when they continued charging outrageous rates for domain registration while prices plumetted everywhere else. Same with their certificates.

TEH GREASED YODA DOLL UP MY ASS IS ON TEH SPOKE!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133491)

And furthermore....

Go SCO/LUNIX!

W00T! (3, Funny)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | about 11 years ago | (#7133492)

Good news.....FINALLY! I swear to god...you read /. for a couple weeks.....and the news is so forboding sometimes that you think the headline tomorrow is going to be "APOCOLYPSE! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!". Then a story like this comes along and makes me cheer and gives me a glimmer of hope. Makes me feel like I'm manic depressive.

Damn the Goddess of Geekdom, she is a fickle mistriss!

Re:W00T! (1)

radoni (267396) | about 11 years ago | (#7133579)

so, if i punch you in the face and then give you a cookie, i will be making your day better, no ?

verisign did something nasty, and now it sounds like they are heros for going along with all these silly internet users who didn't want site finder. give us our bread and toilets, we don't need sleep.

Re:W00T! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133600)

Good news.....FINALLY! I swear to god...you read /. for a couple weeks.....and the news is so forboding sometimes that you think the headline tomorrow is going to be "APOCOLYPSE! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!". Then a story like this comes along and makes me cheer and gives me a glimmer of hope. Makes me feel like I'm manic depressive.

Damn the Goddess of Geekdom, she is a fickle mistriss!

So why, Sir, do you read Slashdot? Because you want to feel a little like a real geek?

Sir, may I remind you of the fact that the hype is over and it makes no longer sense to simulate technical knowledge. It rather makes you look like an idiot.

Re:W00T! (1)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | about 11 years ago | (#7133736)

Listen you little troll, where do you get off accusing ME of not being a geek. You're the one trolling, jesus if anybody isn't a geek its you. And what about my post gave you the impression that I was attempting to "simulate technical knowledge"? There was nothing technical about my statement.

In fact, the whole thing was a humorous post, which apparently did not slip past your "uber-geek" brain filter.

Bloody trolls.

Re:W00T! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133768)

Just reading Slashdot makes me a feel a little dumber everyday. Linux is great! Microsoft and SCO are the devil! Everyone is out to get Linux! DRM is everywhere! Its in my kitchen! Its eating my cat! blah

Re:W00T! (2, Funny)

AllUsernamesAreGone (688381) | about 11 years ago | (#7133670)

Hey, don't worry about it - if slashdot DID run a "APOCOLYPSE! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!" story, it'd be denounced as a corporate plot, we'd get a dupe and then it'd turn out that the story was actually exaggerated and it is really only going to be a problem for somewhere nobody cares much about, like Utah...

Re:W00T! (1)

k12linux (627320) | about 11 years ago | (#7133775)

Good news.....FINALLY!

Yeah, this is good news. It's like the good news of the gas companies lowering the price of gas by 20 cents/gal... two weeks after they raised it by 30. You remind me of the guy who's breakroom topic that day is, "Did see the price of gas this morning? It went WAY down!"

Re:W00T! (1)

Halvard (102061) | about 11 years ago | (#7133798)

Careful, now, or you will piss off Athena! She is the Goddess of Geekdom.

You started two threads in one article (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133804)

What the hell's the matter with you? STEP AWAY FROM TEH CRACKPIPE, SIR! Go out and get some fresh air or something.

They'll be back... (3, Funny)

PSaltyDS (467134) | about 11 years ago | (#7133499)

From the article: "We will accede to the request while we explore all of our options." or, "All night lawyer party at the home of the VP for marketing!" Techs and engineers will not be invited.

Any technology distinguishable from magic is not sufficiently advanced.

What are some alternatives? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133501)

Well, seeing how much ass Verisign sucks, what are the best options out there for people wanting to jump ship?

Re:What are some alternatives? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133724)

.org

NANOG Linkage (5, Informative)

The One KEA (707661) | about 11 years ago | (#7133505)

Here is the start of a thread on the NANOG mailinglist:

http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg14917. html [merit.edu]

Just goes to show how pissed people really are.....

Re:NANOG Linkage (0, Offtopic)

segment (695309) | about 11 years ago | (#7133581)

Many NANOG'ers are always pissy when it comes to anything that affects their systems. Sometimes when I read the list I find it amusing and often portray many of the guys there as lazy bastards. Don't get me wrong I know a lot of people there know a heck of a lot of shit, but if you go back and check some of the older posts, you see a pattern of "fuck now I gotta work" type responses.

Odd though considering when some hardcore networking stuff needs to be assessed you will often see many *NOT* configure it then bitch about it somewhere down the line. I take many of those post and /dev/null them since there are a lot of whiners there, but I do enjoy reading the hardcore technical stuff when they're not trolling around about something trivial.

Hrmm now I know this post is not related to the story in general, and more than likely will be troll -1'd or something... But had to speak my mind about trusting information from anyone other source than RTFM for yourself.

They've also got a huge antiWindows theme going at times, which is funny because when I wrote brat.c the same people who were bitching about Windows were going to read the write up and program in ... Windows... Talk about 'Egos Gone Wild"

Verisign vs. ICANN (2, Funny)

r_glen (679664) | about 11 years ago | (#7133510)

Good news! I can now go back to hating both companies equally.

huh? (1)

Neophytus (642863) | about 11 years ago | (#7133521)

Weren't they just "suspending" it? I anticipate a quiet revival sometime in the future.

Re:huh? (1)

Valar (167606) | about 11 years ago | (#7133651)

You can't really "quietly" revive it, because when you revive it, the effects will show as soon as the ISPs start updating their DNS caches. I mean, this time, we didn't notice it because of some big public announcement, we noticed it because all of the sudden these sitefinder sites started showing up when we typoed stuff.

It's still up and running. (4, Interesting)

sakusha (441986) | about 11 years ago | (#7133522)

Note that "making plans to shut down" does not equal "shut down."

Email from Verisign (5, Informative)

gfilion (80497) | about 11 years ago | (#7133523)

From: owner-registrars@verisign-grs.com
[mailto:owner-r egistrars@verisign-grs.com]On Behalf Of VeriSign Customer
Service
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: registrars@verisign-grs.com
Subject: [RegistrarsList] VeriSign NDS Response to Suspension of Site

To All Registrars,

I am writing to update you on VeriSigns Site Finder service. On Friday,
October 3rd, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
(ICANN) directed VeriSign, Inc., to temporarily suspend service no later
than 6PM PST, Saturday, October 4. VeriSign requested an extension from
ICANN for 3 additional days for the shut down in order to provide the
technical community time to make any necessary system changes.
Unfortunately, ICANN refused this request. Accordingly, in response to
this demand, VeriSign is temporarily suspending the Site Finder service
as of Saturday, October 4 at 6PM PST.

In suspending the service, VeriSign will remove the wildcard A records
from the .com and .net zones and revert to the former behavior for these
zones which is returning Name Error/RCODE=3 in response to queries for
nonexistent domain names.

VeriSign remains committed to improving the Internet user experience.
We look forward to providing the Site Finder service following this
suspension. Thank you for your business. We greatly value our
relationship with you.

Best Regards,

Chris Sheridan
Manager, Customer Service
VeriSign, Inc.
www.verisign.com

Re:Email from Verisign (4, Interesting)

hey (83763) | about 11 years ago | (#7133596)

We look forward to providing the Site Finder service following this suspension.
Er, what?
Maybe they have plans to let ISPs wildcard to Sitefinder for a kick back.

And in response: (0, Flamebait)

Kierthos (225954) | about 11 years ago | (#7133642)

Mr. Sheridan,

Fuck you. We didn't want it. We're happy that ICANN handed you your ass.

Have a nice day.

Kierthos

Re:And in response: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133787)

And people say the Slashdot community is immature.

Re:Email from Verisign (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133740)

VeriSign remains committed to improving the Internet user experience.
Darl McBride, Chris Sheridan. What's up there in U.S.A.? Everybody gone crazy? Or just a small demonstration that the even U.S. arrogant nitwit assholes?

Sorry, but we already knew it - we have seen how George W. Bush was non-elected.

Re:Email from Verisign (1)

GauteL (29207) | about 11 years ago | (#7133806)

This is truly insulting. They act as if the Site Finder service was some kind of favor done by them to the tech community.

This is a blatent insult to everybody's intelligence.

ICANN's power (5, Interesting)

chrispyman (710460) | about 11 years ago | (#7133528)

I guess this goes to show that after all ICANN does indeed have some authority over Verisign. Maybe ICANN isn't the pointless and powerless body we though they were.

yeah.. well (1)

djhankb (254226) | about 11 years ago | (#7133535)

it was a bad move on their part to do this to begin with...
So good riddance.

I'm also done with them as well, I'll pass my domain registrations to someone else...

-H

This HUGE problem hasn't bothered me one bit (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133540)

I simply placed a entry in my HOSTS file and blocked out Verisign's DNS hi-jacking.

Aren't you cool (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133552)

Simple solution. Everyone just has to manually edit their HOSTS file every time Verisign changes something.

Good thing people like you are around to tell us these things.

Re:This HUGE problem hasn't bothered me one bit (1)

glubbs (526448) | about 11 years ago | (#7133764)

what was the change you made?.......

blah (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133550)

not complete? I get the damn sitefinder still whenever I try.

We know why they are doing it . . . (4, Insightful)

werdna (39029) | about 11 years ago | (#7133609)

Of course they're not taking it down because it affected the internet, they're just doing it to keep good relations with the technical community.

Nonsense. They have already demonstrated significant contempt for the technical community -- remember their original response to ICANN's advisory?

They are doing it because ICANN's last letter put their super-duper exclusive right to operate the DNS in play. Maybe ICANN could terminate, maybe not -- but who would put the entire business on the line for this opportunity -- particularly when there still is a chance to negotiate something like that in the future?

MP3.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133610)

I noticed that if you click on any of the mp3.com links, they all seem to point to click.mp3.com, that a verisign web page appears. Are these problems related?

Re:MP3.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133645)

In redneck russia, all problems are related!

Temporarily is the word that worries me (2, Interesting)

thrill12 (711899) | about 11 years ago | (#7133617)

In all the communication Verisign presented, they kept the word "temporarily" or made suggestions which imply that.

Something tells me Verisign still has some tricks up their sleeve, which includes reinstating the service after their laywers have come up with a "satisfactory answer" to ICANN's ultimatum.

Guess I shouldn't take away my wewantour404.(com|net) yet...

A few things (4, Insightful)

m0i (192134) | about 11 years ago | (#7133619)

I find interesting that Verisign requested 3 days before shutting down the service to give time for the tech community to adjust.. Did they do this when the service kicked in?
Also, a quick hint to all of you stuck with Verisign to renew because the domain is past due:
Verisign renewal [stayoffer.com]
Pay 15USD instead of 35USD for the very same 1 year reneal service.. Ain't that great?

Re:A few things (1)

cyt0plas (629631) | about 11 years ago | (#7133695)

How about hostway [hostway.com] ? $6.95 per year for renewals, or new domains.

STILL RUNNING (0, Redundant)

whoever57 (658626) | about 11 years ago | (#7133622)

They have not shut down the wildcard dns replies:
$ host versign-are-gutless-wankers-lkjaflja.com versign-are-gutless-wankers-lkjaflja.com has address 64.94.110.11

Not DNS (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133623)

DNS does not define wildcard redirections. VeriSign should lose the contract just because of that.

These are the same guys that were ordered by the FTC to stop falsely advertising renewal services, isn't it?

Lame crooks.

Re:Not DNS (1)

c1ay (703047) | about 11 years ago | (#7133709)

These are the same guys that were ordered by the FTC to stop falsely advertising renewal services, isn't it?

Yes, I'm one of the ones that complained to the Postal Service when I received my fraudulent renewal service from them via the U.S. Mail. I surely hope they lose their registrar service as well. They're almost as low as spammers Then again, I'm waiting for Darl McBride to announce that SCO owns BIND and that they intend to sue internet for using it.

Re:Not DNS (1)

mabu (178417) | about 11 years ago | (#7133810)

These are also the people that arbitrarily started charging for domain registrations, changing the terms of their arrangement with the government to manage domains. These are also the people that had their domain charges ruled an "illegal tax" and never returned any of the millions and millions of dollars they illegally stole.

The list of Verisign/NSI dishonorable activities is virtually endless.

BIG FUGGIN DEAL (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133629)

FDP!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133640)

frist debian psot!

Behaviour all conform to DNS specs (0)

lbalbalba (526209) | about 11 years ago | (#7133716)

Maybe we should give VeriSign a little break here ? I mean, after all, what they did is in fact fully compliant with the DNS rfc's.

If you dont like the protocol specifications, then go beat up the specs, and NOT the implementors.

Now go away and write a rfc draft to update the DNS specs you demons ... jeez ...

I feel sorry... (2, Interesting)

infolib (618234) | about 11 years ago | (#7133717)

...for the guy who some day down the line gets 64.94.110.11. All these null routes probably won't go away that easily. He'll have lots of mystified users...

But see? People are using it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133726)

From the article:

VeriSign stated that Internet users had visited the page more than 40 million times in the last three weeks.

As if 40 million typos vindicates the creation of Site Finder...

I liked SiteFinder (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#7133754)

SiteFinder made it a lot easier to find the site I was actually looking for than with some obscure browser error message (or in some cases -- i.e. AOL -- your ISP's search page). I'd rather see a HELPFUL direction page than an obscure error or (even worse) an ISP ad page.

Trouble for VeriSign -- "non-registry service" (2, Informative)

GeorgeK (642310) | about 11 years ago | (#7133757)

What might get VeriSign into very big trouble is the admission, in the press release [yahoo.com] that "ICANN is using anecdotal and isolated issues to attempt to regulate non-registry services, but in the interests of further working with the technical community we will temporarily suspend Site Finder."

I think this is a brand new tactic on the part of VeriSign, to categorize it as a "non-registry service".

That seems to escalate things to a new level, in that it seems to be an admission of abusing their monopoly in the Registry for the provision of a NON-REGISTRY SERVICE.

It had been my understanding that previously their position would have been that it would have been categorized as a Registry service, but one that didn't need approval due to it being "free" (i.e. needs no contract amendment). However, giving advantage for the provision of a non-registry service seems to be MUCH WORSE. Suppose that NON-REGISTRY SERVICE was a REGISTRAR SERVICE, for example, and VeriSign abused its monopoly to advantage one of their partners in that space? Just like WLS [stopwls.com] .

Clearly, VeriSign's abusive and monopolistic business practises need to be examined [usdoj.gov] at the highest levels of government and by regulators.

P.S. Keep up the pressure, by supporting the Stop VeriSign DNS Abuse [whois.sc] petition -- 17,000 signatures and counting.

good news, but doesnt matter to me (1)

Indy1 (99447) | about 11 years ago | (#7133811)

I gave verislime a big hearty fuck you two weeks ago by downloading the newest bind, turned on the delegation option, and then promptly null routed the sitefinder ip as additional insurance.

I'm surprised the rest of you guys didnt all do the same as well.

It will be back .... (2, Interesting)

Leme (303299) | about 11 years ago | (#7133813)

Considering the massive amounts of money I'm sure they have spent on hardware, development and other neccesities on this silly project, I'm pretty confident to say that they just won't roll over and stop without a fight.

I'm sure the lawyers will drag this one out in court.
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