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Oops, Dave Barry Does It Again

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the free-nights-and-weekends dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 733

agdv writes "After the success of his first article providing the phone number of the American Teleservices Association, and the ensuing reaction by said organization, columnist Dave Barry attacks again, providing the ATA's new phone number. Read all about it! (the number is 317-816-9336, long distance charges may apply)."

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SOMEBODY... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136645)

Post the GNAA phone number and let's apply the strategy from the article against them...

whois nero-online.org (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136663)

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Fist pist? (-1)

DaddyExcellent (632540) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136605)

dfgdsfgsdfgsdfg

Sorry, one more spam. Then done. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136653)

My biggest complaint about the liberal bias is it uses a process which is intentionally provocative and generates a backlash. That backlash is unnecessary and usually done to harden either camp. Embracing the backlash can be very liberating regardless of the consequences, use of the backlash was also used for culling social annoyances/consumerism. Most of the focus is on women and children with predictable results. --I've got about 14 university textbooks which back up this process with hundreds of studies--.

Heh,... I have too much time on my hands. Through an hour long news program I counted 65 negative comments/spooky music/selective camera scenes when addressing anything associated with the republicans. During the same hour I counted 125 positive comments/music/selective camera scenes when democratic canidates/issues. This is a process to undermine a democratic process at a massive level. Right? Isn't that what the cold war tried to protect us from?

Insiders are offered preference in a corrupt process. Selective activizm/news coverage (the reporters outrage is thrown in for free). Politicizing the population daily with namebrand actors/actresses and any public figure wishing for a little friendly/free PR. Using school/law enforcement policy to stiffle opposition of the young and old alike. Generating/using/causing antimale sentement which span 2 generations as a form of scapegoatism. The list is almost infinitive.

Disclaimer: This could have been done anywhere, it's just a matter of attracting attention.

FOSP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136609)

Fourty-one Second Post!

no (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136612)

dave barry is a faggot.

good job (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136614)

I for one say excellent

The association? Why not some home numbers? (5, Insightful)

mooface (674033) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136619)

I like the idea of calling the association, but I am more enthusiastic about contacting the heads of the association at home, during dinner. It would be a real shame if someone were to dig up those folks numbers....

Re:The association? Why not some home numbers? (3, Informative)

Karamchand (607798) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136635)

http://www.ataconnect.org/boardofdirectors.htm http://www.ataconnect.org/staff.htm Someone get the white pages for the US and find out address and phone numbers please!

Re:The association? Why not some home numbers? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136648)

Sorry for the bad formatting. Here again:
ATA Board of Directors [ataconnect.org] (Google Cache [216.239.59.104] )
ATA Staff [ataconnect.org] (Google Cache [216.239.59.104] )

Re:The association? Why not some home numbers? (1)

jbellis (142590) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136655)

the board probably has unlisted numbers, and I dunno that I want to harass someone who just works there. I mean, it's not like they're patent lawyers or something.

Re:The association? Why not some home numbers? (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136742)

Check out the staff page. It is all managers, not staff. Enjoy.

Re:The association? Why not some home numbers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136658)

most major corporate execs have the minimum intelligence necessary (and the financial resource available) to not be listed in the white pages.

lexis-nexus, otoh ........

Re:The association? Why not some home numbers? (1)

richwmn (621114) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136666)

I would but for some reason it is not responding!!! /.ed at 10:06 perhaps???

Down already (1)

The Tyro (247333) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136686)


either slashdotted, or their webmaster is like most other geeks... furiously reloading slashdot pages at his terminal.

He got those pages offline quickly... neat work.

Re:Down already - oops (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136784)

Directors: Chairman Thomas Rocca Interactive Response Technologies Kennesaw, GA Vice-Chairman Lisa DeFalco TPG Telemanagement Yardley, PA Treasurer Andrew Miller, Apac Omaha, NE Secretary Kathryn Barber Barber Consulting Atlantic Highlands, NJ Immediate Past Chairman Bill Miklas InfoUSA Omaha, NE Directors Stuart Discount Tele-Response Center Inc. Philadelphia, PA Benjamin Harris Unicall International Fairlawn, OH Connie Richardson West/Dakotah Direct II Spokane, WA Gil Stallings Consultant Hackensack, NJ Kathleen Thompson Bank One Wilmington, DE Mark Williams MBNA Wilmington, DE

Re:The association? Why not some home numbers? (0, Redundant)

mad_ian (28771) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136705)

Thomas Rocca, (770) 429-1956, 3840 Jiles Rd NW, Kennesaw, GA 30144

Looks like the Chairman to me, comparing the Google Cache of the Directors page, and typing Thomas Rocca GA into Google

Possible Home Numbers for ATA board members (5, Informative)

SonicBurst (546373) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136719)

Using google's cache of the ATA board page and superpages.com, here are some possible home numbers of board members: (I claim NO responsibility for the accuracy of these numbers!)

Chairmain
Thomas Rocca
1014 Ector Dr Nw
Kennesaw, GA 30152
(770) 429 - 1956


Vice-Chairman
Lisa Defalco (Business Number)
TPG Telemanagement Inc
301 Oxford Valley Road, Morrisville, PA 19067
(215) 369-0979


I'll leave the lookups of the rest as an exercise for the reader:
Treasurer
Andrew Miller,
Apac
Omaha, NE

Secretary
Kathryn Barber
Barber Consulting
Atlantic Highlands, NJ

Immediate Past Chairman
Bill Miklas
InfoUSA
Omaha, NE

Directors
Stuart Discount
Tele-Response Center Inc.
Philadelphia, PA

Benjamin Harris
Unicall International
Fairlawn, OH

Connie Richardson
West/Dakotah Direct II
Spokane, WA

Gil Stallings
Consultant
Hackensack, NJ

Kathleen Thompson
Bank One
Wilmington, DE

Mark Williams
MBNA
Wilmington, DE

Re:The association? Why not some home numbers? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136746)

Dave: Quit calling me!

Horde Against Lawmaker: I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.

I'd call but... (3, Funny)

another misanthrope (688068) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136620)

...I can't get a hold of the national do not call list too see if Dave's on it or not.

don't wanna get hit with that 2K fine ya know...

Re:I'd call but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136642)

Too bad Dave isn't the one answering the phone. Unless he happens to work at the ATA. It's a sad day when people can't even read the article summary!

Dave Barry ROCKS (2)

TioHoltzman (709089) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136621)

Way to go Dave! This is hilarious, a pity we can't do the same thing with the RIAA or MPAA numbers!

Re:Dave Barry ROCKS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136696)

What point would calling the RIAA or MPAA have? What a sad, pathetic world we live in. Slashdotters always have something to be pissy about.

I'd call and say... (5, Funny)

slobbit (466842) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136622)

I'd call and say,
"Please hold for an important message..."

I Agree with his work... (5, Interesting)

Praedon (707326) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136625)

He serves a valid point... They call you, and it is extremely rude to call someone who doesn't want to be called.. So they sit there and say that what he did was rude.. hes just doing what they are doing to prove a point.. And he should keep doing it till Telemarketing is destroyed, and the agency comes up with a BETTER idea, like say perhaps getting permission to call?

Re:I Agree with his work... (4, Interesting)

Skater (41976) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136692)

I really wonder what kind of person would run a company that is so obviously reviled. I mean, at some point my survival instinct would kick in and say, "Wow. I'm doing something people really, really hate. And they know who I am. And there are some real wackos out there. Hmm..."

It reminds me of a friend that worked for US Airways. Her job? "I overbook flights." That always got an interesting reaction from people, although none that I saw were actually nasty.

--RJ

Re:I Agree with his work... (4, Interesting)

cybermace5 (446439) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136740)

They have already had that idea. They are running promotions where you get a mailing asking you to choose which type of soda/pop/Coke you prefer, and they will send you a free 12-pack. However in fine print it reads that you agree to accept telemarketing calls.

I don't know exactly how this works, but if you once slip up and do something like this, have you blown it for good? How far can the business relationship clause be taken? I think there should be a way to "reset" your do-not-call status in some way, essentially saying that you wish to have all current "business relationships" to be considered dissolved, and under no circumstances wish to receive solicitations from any company. Because once your name gets into the "business relationship grapevine," can you say "do not call me again" fast enough to keep your number from spreading like the latest royal family gossip?

Not just a new number.. (4, Funny)

Karamchand (607798) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136629)

It seems they don't just need a new phone number (again!) but soon they'll also need a new (additional!) web server ;-)

Re:Not just a new number.. (4, Informative)

squarefish (561836) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136728)

yeah, whoever posted this should have had thier url as the very first link in the story- /.'ers don't even read the topic before they start clicking the new links, but having to RTFA first- link is at the bottom- will prevent their site from getting the amount of traffic it truely deserves.

So, click here [ataconnect.org]

I live in the UK, (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136630)

I love telemarketers. I can be as amazingly offensive to them as I like because they're being fucking irritating and interrupting me; and if they reply in the same manner they could get fired. It's the most stress relieving activity I've ever encountered. Probably pisses them off though.

Shame.

Re:I live in the UK, (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136673)

And it's people like you who are causing telemarketers untold grief. Think about it before you act, geez. You're not dealing with a machine, you're dealing with a human doing their job. I'll get modded down for saying this, so I'm posting anonymously, but seriously, fuck you if you're going to get pleasure out of causing pain to another person.

Re:I live in the UK, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136697)

Listen, those humans should get an education instead of annoying people.

Re:I live in the UK, (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136706)

I know many of those people. My town has a dedicated technology park mostly occupied by telemarketing companies. The stories of sheer abuse by customers that come out of there are shocking. If you ever needed proof that society is going down the tubes you only have to hear what these people have to put up with.

Complain to their managers, complain about their companies, but don't abuse the people doing their job.

Re:I live in the UK, (2, Insightful)

Amiga Lover (708890) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136729)

What a pathetic argument.

First off, you use the term 'customers'. Telemarketers do not get abused by people who are 'customers'. Telemarketers get abused by people who are sick to fucking death of being called for the seventeenth time IN ONE EVENING for the same old survey, holiday, book of vouchers, comms service or other special deals. They are annoying. They are mosquitos.

If someone employed criminals to break my windows, I would feel just as happy beating their head against the pavement as I would their 'bosses' and the people in your town are no different, they're bringing in money for annoying people, for doing to people what those people DON'T WANT DONE TO THEM.

Those people who phone me are mosquitos, and I will play with them how I like until they respect my simple wish for a quiet evening at home.

Re:I live in the UK, (4, Funny)

praxim (117485) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136735)

I don't ever abuse telemarketers, but I do screw with them. I'll answer the phone in German, or pig latin, or whatever I can remember. I'll pretend to be paranoid and think they're the CIA or that my phone is bugged.
I don't see any harm- they probably enjoy it as much as I do. At least, the AT&T rep thought it was pretty funny when I asked if I could get massages included in my long-distance plan...

Heard by a lowly staffer at ataconnect.org... (0, Offtopic)

Mipmap (569611) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136632)

"I for one welcome our new slashdot.org overlords"

(http://www.ataconnect.org/ [slashdot.org] is a nice looking site, and it still seems to be up as of 10am)

Re:Heard by a lowly staffer at ataconnect.org... (2, Insightful)

Mipmap (569611) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136637)

Oy, my html skillz are pitiful... www.ataconnect.org/ [ataconnect.org]

Re:Heard by a lowly staffer at ataconnect.org... (1)

arcanumas (646807) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136720)

ataconnect is no longer ... connectable.
We are successful evil genius master. Who is out next target?

taking the high road (4, Funny)

sczimme (603413) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136634)


From the article:

And I am, frankly, tempted to reveal to you here that the American Teleservices Association (www.ataconnect.org/) seems to have a phone line working (at least for now) at 317-816-9336.
...
... that's just plain rude. So I am taking the high road.


Whew! That was close. We wouldn't want Mr. Barry to sully his relationship with the ATA by posting such scandalous info. Kudos to you, sir, for your strenuous efforts to maintain some level of decorum!

However, I have no such relationship... :-)

American Teleservices Association 317-816-9336
American Teleservices Association 317-816-9336
American Teleservices Association 317-816-9336
American Teleservices Association 317-816-9336
American Teleservices Association 317-816-9336

Have a nice day!

Re:taking the high road (2, Funny)

Xyd (631642) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136670)

And, sadly, they probably have CallerID and are collecting all our phone numbers for future harrassment. Damn, I called from my cellular, too... :-o .xyd

*67 is your friend (3, Informative)

sczimme (603413) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136750)


Dial *67 before you dial the number, and your number will show up as 'blocked ID' (or similar) on the display on the other end.

However, IIRC this does not work when you're calling a 1-800 or other toll-free number. I guess the idea is that if you are footing the bill you should be allowed to block your number, and if you are paying for the toll-free line you should be able to see who is calling you - which makes sense.

Turnabout is fair play (1)

The Tyro (247333) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136726)

Wish I still had some of my old-school hacking proggies around, thinking in particular of my war-dialers.

You kids just don't know how hacking used to be... running your war-dialers at night, all night, for days on a 300 baud modem... all so your parents wouldn't complain about not being able to use the phone. It took days to dial through a single prefix.

After that, manually modem-dialing all those numbers to see what kind of computers you had called... A few local war-dialers could but a hurting on that ATA number...

This is all strictly hypothetical, of course, since I would NEVER suggest anything of such questionable legality...

Re:Turnabout is fair play (3, Funny)

GMontag (42283) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136778)

Thank you Cingular!

"Free" long distance.

3000+ weekend min.

"Disable Outgoing Caller ID" in prefrences for all calls.

One touch redial. (I wonder if I can program that into the Handspring?)

Priceless!

Original Article? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136751)

Does anyone have a link to the original article?
Thanks.

Funny (1)

Infernon (460398) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136636)

I can't reach www.ataconnect.org. Probably DOs'd.
Who doesn't love Dave Barry? WIth the exception of telemarketers of course...

Re:www.ataconnect.org (2, Informative)

thedillybar (677116) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136741)

It appears that the www.ataconnect.org machine is still on the Internet but not responding properly to http requests.

It's still responding to pings (although not very well) and also gives back some SYN/ACK packets. If it's a bandwidth problem, they've probably taken it down on purpose until the traffic stops. Why they didn't just unplug the machine though is beyond me.

----www.ataconnect.org PING Statistics----
17 packets transmitted, 17 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 108/801/4445

Slashdotted (1)

thenextpresident (559469) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136641)

The phone number appears to have been slashdotted. What he should have also done (if it exists) is provide a 1-800 number as well. Companies get charged for that. Think about slashdotters dialing a 1-800 number and charging a company, such as the aforementioned Lexmark, for being morons.

Protesting in the 21st century!

Re:Slashdotted (2, Informative)

Angram (517383) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136650)

That's why they took down the 800-number. The new one is temporary, to keep them from getting charged.

Lexmark (-1, Offtopic)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136676)

Just at your convenience.

http://www.lexmark.com/US/contact_us_detail/0,13 50 ,MTkyfDE=,00.html

Call Us

Ordering parts and supplies
1-800-LEXMARK or 1-800-539-6275
Monday - Friday 9 a.m. - 8 p.m. EST
Closed weekends

Questions before you buy
1-800-LEXMARK or 1-800-539-6275
Monday - Friday 9 a.m. - 8 p.m. EST
Closed weekends

D0h! Closed Weekends!

Re:Slashdotted (email) (1)

thenextpresident (559469) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136711)

info@ataconnect.org

Hrm..I wonder if they get enought unsolicited email. I mean, isn't that the same thing as unsolicited phone calls?

Its busy! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136643)

I guess folks are on it full!

I just phoned 1-800-726-8649 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136644)

And all I got was de-de-dot....

a good career move??? (1)

stonebeat.org (562495) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136647)

his group argues that, if its members are prohibited from calling people who do not want to be called, then two million telemarketers will lose their jobs.
Since when did pestering peole during dinner become a profession? No I am talking about the automatic dialers. More than half the calls I receive, are made by automatic dialers.
I mean I wouldn't mind talking to a actual humanoid on the other trying to make me upgrade my long distance service, when I dont even have a long distance service to begin with!!!!

Re:a good career move??? (1)

tweek (18111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136710)

What has always bothered me about this argument is that it doesn't stand up to rational thought. It's not about WHEN they call or HOW OFTEN they call you. I mean couldn't the Mob have used this same argument in defense of its practices? Drug dealers too for that matter.

I heard it best the other day from Boortz...the DNC registry is like a gigantic "No Trespassing" sign. I'd love to hear someone try to argue the telemarketer'a argument in court if he were to trespass on my property.

Note to self (4, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136649)

- Get a 1-900 number
- Anonymously tip off Dave Barry, telling him my number is an ATA number
- Wait for Dave Barry to post my number on the innurnet
- profit

Re:Note to self (4, Interesting)

Jerf (17166) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136702)

Perhaps surprisingly for a humor columnist, Dave Barry actually does his research, so this probably wouldn't work. (He jokes a lot about how easy being a humor columnist is but a big part of his success is how much work he puts into it.)

This is a surprisingly change over a lot of people punditing about world events, who's "research" seems to consist of skimming over one biased source of news like CNN and then misinterpreting that to fit their biases even more. It's almost a pity Dave Barry is a humor columnist in a way.

Re:Note to self (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136757)

Dave Barry actually does his research, so this probably wouldn't work

Well duh, everybody with some sense does his research before saying something publicly under his real name.

Lighten up, that was a joke ...

Homegrown mayhem. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136654)

"(the number is 317-816-9336, long distance charges may apply)."

Not if you live in that area code.

Re:Homegrown mayhem. (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136683)

Or if you have MCI neighborhood.

I'm sure the number has already been Berry'ed (2, Funny)

Snarfangel (203258) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136656)

Must be the phone equivalent of Slashdotted.

(For those of you who don't see the pun, "Berry'ed" = "buried" -- ah, never mind.)

Re:I'm sure the number has already been Berry'ed (1)

VCAGuy (660954) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136675)

Yup, I'm getting "We're sorry, your call could not be completed as dialed. All circuits are busy. Please hang up and try your call again."

Re:I'm sure the number has already been Berry'ed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136679)

Have you noticed you hardly ever get modded up? that's because you are not funny.

Re:I'm sure the number has already been Berry'ed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136689)

Listen you unfunny geek, a joke is never funny when you have to explain it. It's just sad. Now go and get a haircut, some cool clothes, immerse yourself in the real world and find out what funny is.

Or watch family guy.

Beating dead horses. (4, Insightful)

cioxx (456323) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136664)

This "idea" is really not that great second time around.

Firstly, it's Sunday in US. Chances are no one is there. By tomorrow, it'll drop off the first page (although I realize Barry has his followers)

Secondly, it's not a toll-free number. You have to pay long-distance charges, hence there is no actual damage done to the association people might want to annoy.

Can we let it go? The laws are fucked up. How about publishing the numbers of those congressmen who voted against DNC list? I don't see what this campaign is going to accomplish. Go after the gatekeeper.

Re:Beating dead horses. (2, Insightful)

bc90021 (43730) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136700)

Actually, it will still cost them money:

"An ATA staffer has spent about five hours a day for the past six days monitoring the voice mail and clearing out messages."

(From the article, sorry, I know I shouldn't have read it first. ;) )

Don't forget, for the people in the 317 area code, it is a local call, and for those of us with cell phone plans that include unlimited nights and weekends on a national plan, it doesn't cost a thing. ;)

317--hey! That's my area code! (1)

Karl Cocknozzle (514413) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136754)

Don't forget, for the people in the 317 area code, it is a local call, and for those of us with cell phone plans that include unlimited nights and weekends on a national plan, it doesn't cost a thing. ;)

I had no idea these people had an office right in my backyard. Forget about calling... How about I show up with a sandwich board and protest for an afternoon?

Sure, it would be kind of stupid, but I could conceivably get on the local news and generate some more (bad) publicity for the telemarketing industry.

Re:Beating dead horses. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136768)

Secondly, it's not a toll-free number. You have to pay long-distance charges, hence there is no actual damage done to the association people might want to annoy.

Not if you have Sprint PCS and unlimited nights and weekends. :-)

Are they your congressmen? (0)

dbavirt (543160) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136777)

How about publishing the numbers of those congressmen who voted against DNC list?

I assume your intent is to maliciously "slashdot" them. If they are not your congressmen, you have no business calling them in this fasion.

Two of my congressmen voted the way I hoped they would vote. If people in my state don't like it, they should be calling them, since they are being represented. I'm willing to bet that your congresspeople voted according to your desires. Don't waste my state's resources with your harassment, please.

It is disgusting how easily people revert to mob behavior.

Busy allready (4, Funny)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136668)

I would say that it is slashdotted, But I suspect that it is more like "americaed".

Opt-In List ? (4, Insightful)

jalilv (450956) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136671)

Instead of having a opt-out list there should be an Opt-in list. The people who want to be called will enlist giving their explicit permission to telemarketers. It would clear the confusion and make it easy for everyone. Most of the people do not want to be called but they may not enlist in opt-out list and may end up getting calls. The opt-in list will solve the problem. To be fair, the telemarketers will be given one chance to call everyone and ask their permission to call in the future. They will get their answer right then and there from the horse's mouth ;-)

Btw, Kudos to Dave!!!

- Jalil Vaidya

Re:Opt-In List ? (1)

jea6 (117959) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136756)

What if I opt you in?

Call Collect (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136672)

If you call collect they still get a call. They'll probably reject the charges, but the phone will still ring.

Do you accept the charges from "An Angry Phone Customer"?

More numbers (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136677)

1-800-LINUX-SUX
1-800-GOATSE-CX
1-800-1-TROLL
1 -800-GAY-LINUX
1-800-SEX-MARES

Re:More numbers (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136759)

1-800-SEX-MARES won't answer. Besides, sex with a mare over the phone just isn't it...

But rest assured, no mare works as a telemarketer!

they should use the Do-not-Call registry (1)

arcanumas (646807) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136681)

If they are botheres by the people calling them , they should look into that new thing called Do-not-call registry. Maybe they could list the ATA number there. :)

Busy.... (4, Funny)

disc-chord (232893) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136682)

Wow, /. a phone number in the early morning hours of a sunday. Nice work guys! Let's see if we can keep it that way for a while.

NUBIANROOTS.COM - THE OFFICAL GNAA ISP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136684)

NUBIANROOTS.COM

On a Related Note... (1)

tsanth (619234) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136685)

Googling for the phone number [google.com] yielded a few-months-old column [tmcnet.com] against telemarketing regulations.

In it, he posts numbers for the ATA and DMA (Direct Marketing Association).

...on a related note, the home page [tmcnet.com] currently has a poll: "Is The National Do Not Call List Unconstitutional?"

...and in other news... (1)

Kandel (624601) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136687)

Farm animals horrified by full frontal human exposure.
Dave Barry Strikes AGAIN!

UK (4, Interesting)

larien (5608) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136691)

Here in the UK, we have the TPS [tpsonline.org.uk] (Telephone Preference Service) which is our "do not call" registry. Funnily enough, the UK economy has not gone down the tubes with the introduction of this (well, no worse than it usually does).

Using "free speech" rights to quash the list in America is, in my opinion, an abuse of the constitution. Mind you, it's not the first time it's been mangled and abused for the benefit of some interested party.

telemarketers on cnn (4, Interesting)

Tancred (3904) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136699)

I saw a few minutes on telemarketers on CNN a few days ago and they rolled out the same excuses Dave Barry ridicules. They said they were hardworking people, just like the rest of us. They actually argued that it was bad because it would put people out of work.

In a later discussion on the same show someone pulled out the lame-sounding but apt question - should stealing cars be legal just because it puts people out of work if it's illegal?. Some dufus responded, saying it was an invalid argument since stealing cars is illegal. Finish the thought and you've got "...stealing cars is illegal and calling people who don't want to be called is legal". So the dufus had a rather circular argument - it should be legal because it's legal. I was rather annoyed that nobody called him on it.

Anyway, it's fun to watch this one from the sidelines. I haven't had a landline in 3 years. :)

Populism is bliss (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136701)

Yeah! Those evil telemarketers! Everyone knows they're in it just to annoy you at dinner! And NOBODY buys their crap anyway! The spiteful jerks who work for them will have to find HONEST jobs now!

Let's ban TV ads next!

Grab a torch! Where's my pitchfork!

Spammers next.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136707)

Please?

Beyond personal agendas (5, Insightful)

Lumpish Scholar (17107) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136709)

The telemarketers are trying, no matter what the consequences are to others, to defend their right to make calls.

The politicians are trying, no matter what the consequences are to others, to react to popular demand (not a terrible thing) but to defend their right to make calls. (The "unconstitutional" argument is that charities, churches, and politicians can still call, but businesses can't.)

But we can be part of the problem, too. Not in demanding to eat dinner, or work from home, uninterrupted; that's fair. On the other hand, when we take out our frustration on the underpaid guys on the other end of the line -- instead of politely saying, "please put me on your company's do-not-call list, have a nice day" -- then we, too, are pursuing our agendas no matter what the consequences are to others.

And the next time you get a call, be as angry as you want at the caller's employer, but remember: you're only one layoff and twelve months of unemployment away from the person calling you.

Re:Beyond personal agendas (1)

tweek (18111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136721)

I would tend to agree but when Bellsouth farms out telemarketing calls to 5 different companies and each one says that it takes 6 months to get off the list, I for one can't help but be irate.

Thank goodness..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136712)

.....for Dave Barry and infinite while loops. >D

Worse than telemarketers.. (1)

Stuart Park (467611) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136713)

If you think telemarketers are bad, here in Australia there are people called "blowers" (a consumer affairs bureau term, not sure if there is an equivalent in the U.S. although most likely) that call up businesses asking for payment of imaginary advertising, saying something like "I'm calling from the (rescue/police/fire/etc) magazine, and just wanted to follow up on your offer a few months ago to help us out with an advert in our magazine.. how would you like to pay for it?"

The amounts are usually something like $200, and it is all very illegal.. but it's amazing how many of these groups are out there - with some of them getting very insistent and rude if you try to deny having agreed to pay.

How do you handle Telemarketers? (4, Interesting)

eggoeater (704775) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136717)

I usually just hang up on them. I have a friend that listens intently, maybe asks some questions, then says 'Hold on while I get my credit card.' Then he puts the phone down and doesn't check back for at least a half hour. One telemarketer he did this to called him back later from his home to bitch about all the time wasted from making a quota or some BS like that.
I actually work in a call center (service ONLY, no telemarketing) and I've heard of some unusual things happening. People calling from their car and getting into a wreck because they're trying to read an account number from their checkbook; some guy even had a heart-attack right when he called, the phone rep (who luckily already had his account info) called the paramedics for him. That's not a time when you want to hear 'Your call is very important to us....'
-Steve

Where's my job security? (1)

DoktorGonzo (513156) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136730)

My new career is to sneak up on people, trip them, and kick them in the back of the head with fuzzy dog slippers. But the government started a "Do Not Kick" list that you don't even have to sign up for! What about my First Amendment rights to cute slipper ultra-violence? I might lose my job!

Harassment (-1, Troll)

dbavirt (543160) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136734)

When you pick up the phone to call ATA, what you are doing is harassment. You have nothing to sell them. In fact, you would almost certainly (with few exceptions) not be calling them unless you knew that thousands of your peers would also be calling. You hope that your actions will cause problems for the ATA. You are participating in mob behavior.

By contrast, when a telemarketer calls you, they hope to sell you something. They have had success in this activity in the past, otherwise they would not try; the phone call costs money, as does the equipment, space, human resources staff, benefits, management, etc, not to mention the wages of those making the calls. They are not doing this to make you mad. They don't want to interrupt your dinner. If they could catch you at your most inconvenient time, they would. In fact, if they could tell without having to call that you were not interested, they would not make the call.

I personally know an individual (a dentist) who has successfully used telemarketing. He employs one woman who works from home cold-calling people to get their teeth cleaned. Telemarketing has been the most successful method of getting new patients that he has ever tried. Additionally, the woman doing the job benefits from well paying at-home employment.

I am not opposed to a Do Not Call list. I am, however, very much opposed to the legislation of said list. And I am opposed to the kind of mob behavior that caused the ATA to disconnect their phone line.

And don't bother comparing this to calling your congressperson, they are supposed to hear from you and have budgets and staff explicitely for this purpose. Be honest now. If you called the ATA you weren't really trying to give them any information or state an opinion, you just wanted to inconvenience them. You were just happy for an opportunity to retaliate.

Re:Harassment (1)

jyoull (512280) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136765)

Uhh... no. it might be harassment for one person to call over and over and over and over... maybe yelling obscenities or threats or something...

I'm not so sure that one or two calls to the association that's largely responsible for making home life unpleasant for me, is wholly exempt from receiving a phone call from me. I have as much right to call them to complain about the actions of their members as they have asserted FOR DECADES in calling the rest of us.

Re:Harassment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136782)

But I really do have this bridge to sell them. That's why I'm calling.

WRONG (4, Insightful)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136783)

If they could catch you at your most inconvenient time, they would. In fact, if they could tell without having to call that you were not interested, they would not make the call.

Isn't that what the do-not-call list is made for? They could tell beforehand that you don't want them to call. But they insist they want to call you despite that and rule the list illegal. So, you're plainly wrong here.

A great deterant... (5, Funny)

CooCooCaChoo (668937) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136748)

Remote shocking device to allow the victim of telemarketing to send a 4000amp charge down the line to the person at the call centre.

Another would be for the US to declare war on Telemarketing. Why? well, when ever GWB has a speech, guess what happens? the phone rings. When the phone rings, GWB loses his "connection with the American public". If you get rid of the telemarketers, you get a loyal listening audience ;-)

Could you imagine the speech?

"My fellow Americans, our country is under attack by spam, telemarketing and faxes. This group constitutes a Triangle of Trash. We must unit as a people to purge this scourge from this great nation of ours. Countries who current allow these communication terrorists to operate in their country have to make a decision, they are either with us or against us."

Toll-free number for ATA's legislative branch (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7136752)

Betsy Devine's blog has this quote:

"The number Dave Barry printed is now disconnected. And of course it is illegal as well as wrong to make prank phone calls. The law stands firm against the kinds of jokes played by 9 year-old kids!

But surely it's a fair use of free speech to call the ATA's legislative branch, whose toll-free number is listed on their contact page as (866) 500-4272, and urge them to lobby for better Do Not Call laws."

Surely.

Re:Toll-free number for ATA's legislative branch (3, Insightful)

Glock27 (446276) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136780)

And of course it is illegal as well as wrong to make prank phone calls.

Absolutely.

However, in my case I simply have a burning desire to let the American Telemarketers Association know exactly what I think of it's business practices. ;-)

No prank there.

ROFL (0)

Glock27 (446276) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136767)

Busy signal at 7:31 PST on Sunday. ;-)

ATA response (4, Interesting)

ArmorFiend (151674) | more than 10 years ago | (#7136788)

I predict the ATA uses Caller-ID to harvest the phone numbers of everyone who calls them, then states that they have a "prior business relationship" with them, and starts calling them back.
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