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CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the whats-your-vector-victor dept.

The Gimp 370

An anonymous reader writes "The GIMP developers released a new snapshot in the development series. Version 1.3.21 (aka the path to excellence release) features an improved path tool with superb path stroking and adds SVG support. You can now export your GIMP paths to SVG and the new SVG import plug-in not only renders Scalable Vector Graphics for you at the desired resolution, it also imports SVG paths as GIMP paths."

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LAMENS TERMS (2, Informative)

Malicious (567158) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152579)

For those who think this is written in Greek

Gimp now Works like Photoshop AND Illustrator.

Re:LAMENS TERMS (4, Funny)

arcanumas (646807) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152615)

I am Greek and yet i could not understand it. thanks.


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152821)

Haha... This was THE best of the last years. Greek are great.

Outstanding! (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152659)

Your message is nothing but a sea of errors.

First, it's "layman's." (Lamens? Is that a brand of ramen noodles or something?)

Secondly, no, this announcement does NOT mean GIMP works like Photoshop AND Illustrator. Nothing of the sort, not even close. ALL this means is that GIMP can now save into a scalable vector format designed for the web. The decidedly low- to mid-tier GIMP project still has a long way to go before it even touches Photoshop, let alone Illustrator (although, so as not to seem like *too* much of a troll, I will say that GIMP is pretty darn good as a basic image editor. Can't beat the price, for sure).

I understand it's exciting to post on Slashdot and all, but, you seriously just posted a message that does not contain a single correct statement. That's pretty... err, lame.

Re:Outstanding! (1)

cosmo7 (325616) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152930)

I really don't see the big deal. SVG is an exceptionally easy format to parse, not like trying to make sense of (presumably deliberately obfuscated) illustrator epsfs.


Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152670)

No, GIMP works like Photoshop with a bad interface. After all, Photoshop already imports SVG fine (or at least Illustrator, I think it does SVG as well). And, if it's like Illustrator+Photoshop, a full-featured vector editor, they just doubled the options in an already confusing program.

Re: INACCURATE TERMS (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152724)

It's only confusing if you're an unskilled idiot. Instead of blathering on about things you can't grasp, fuck off why don't you?

I made the transistion from Photoshop to GIMP (with 20 years of graphic design experience behind me) with no trouble. The only people who seem to have problems with it are people who either don't "get" computer based illustration or have no artistic background. GIMP is far more than a basic paint program. I dare you to use Microsoft paint to edit images with the flexibility and speed that GIMP offers. I challenge ANYONE to do this. It's simply not possible. The GIMP toolset is fully featured and usable by anyone with a clue regarding computers and graphic design. Anyone who disagrees has obviously not worked with real graphic design. I wouldn't use GIMP for print work quite yet, but it's amazing for web graphics and stuff to be displayed on screen. And remember professional graphic design != printing 100% of the time. Again, I say go fuck off.


Jellybob (597204) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152733)

Have you tried the development version? (x.3 I think) - they've GTK2ed the interface, and made it a lot easier to use.


Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152886)

Including the Windows version? I keep trying it and then going back to other commercial packages because the interface is so damn auwful.


theefer (467185) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152914)

Good for you you can afford the Photoshop (+Illustrator?) license.

I can't.

And for most non-graphical artists, TheGimp is not only completely sufficient, but also quite powerful. And, of course, Free Software, which is a good enough reason for me to use it over proprietary alternatives.


michib01 (464760) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152946)

Download all necessary libraries and compile them on you own.
They already offer you the source code... Should they also compile everything for Windows for free too?


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152767)

No, GIMP works like Photoshop with a bad interface.

You can say that again.

The primary menu is a floating menu activated by a right-click? WTF?


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152823)

That's called an object oriented interface, and it is much more logical to use than cramming all the unrelated menus together in the top of the screen.


Eric Ass Raymond (662593) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152894)

GUIs are not about logic. They are about comfort.

Perhaps GIMP's weird menu system is more logical, but to most people it's confusing.People in general tend to see confusing GUIs as a bad and unconfortable.

A good GUI is the one with which most of the people are already familiar with. Tweak it slightly and the customers will follow, but radical changes will only serve to annoy people. If you want to develop your GUI do it like you'd boil a frog - slowly.

INACCURATE TERMS-GUI expert speaks. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7153034)

"A good GUI is the one with which most of the people are already familiar with."

Apple agrees with you. Up next MacWinLongsteer.

"Tweak it slightly and the customers will follow, but radical changes will only serve to annoy people. "


"If you want to develop your GUI do it like you'd boil a frog - slowly."

MacOS 9-->MacOS 10.1


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152848)

I love it when I see people who wasted four years of thier life and thousands of dollars in tuition DICKING AROUND WITH A PROGRAM trying to justify their wasted education. Face it, your pissed around and drank beer and spent an insane amount of money and four fucking years doing what most people could do with a computer, a program, a book and a few days. I really hate graphic design majors who think they're all "super technical skilled artists." Bullshit. You basically played games through college. "Look! I spent 3 weeks rendering a guy on a surfboard! I got an A!" Big fucking deal. You barely have a trade, at least carpenters have to learn a multitude of tools instead of just the two or three you work with. At least the economic society is beginning to realize what you assholes are worth, and you're either unemployed or starting to get paid the manual labor wages you deserve.


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152774)

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Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152803)

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Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152867)

du u eat pewp


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152902)

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Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152992)

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Slashdot is dying (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152581)

It is now official - a Slashdot poll has confirmed: Slashdot is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Slashdot community when recently a poll on the site confirmed that up-to-date and factually-correct stories account for less than 40 percent of all submitted news stories, that the user-moderation system has fallen to pieces through the oppressive power of the editors, and that subscribers don't need to pay and can use such software as JunkBuster to filter out adverts. Coming on the heels of the latest MSNBC survey which plainly states that Slashdot has lost more readers, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Slashdot is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [] [] in the recent Kuro5hin technology site popularity test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [] [] to predict Slashdot's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Slashdot faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for it because Slashdot is dying. Things are looking very bad for the site. As many of us are already aware, Slashdot continues to lose readers. Red ink flows like a river of blood. The subscribers scheme is the most endangered of them all, having lost 62% of its paying readers.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

Slashdot editor and homosexual-rights campaigner Rob Malda (CmdrTaco) states that there are 700 paying subscribers to Slashdot. How many normal readers are there? Let's see. The number of subscriber versus reader posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 1 to 4. Therefore there are about 700*4 = 2800 normal casual readers. Anonymous Coward posts are about half of the volume of the typical posts. Therefore there are about 1400 readers who can't be bothered setting up an account. A recent article put the Trolls, who post sexual insults, foul ASCII art pictures and links to vile sites, at about 80 percent of the Slashdot readership. Therefore there are (700+8400+4200)*4 = 19600 trolling readers. This is consistent with the number of Troll posts.

Due to the troubles of, abysmal hit counts and so on, Slashdot went out of business and was taken over by OSDN who run another troubled site. Now OSDN is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that Slashdot has steadily declined in readership. It is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Slashdot is to survive at all it will be among geeky hobbyist dabblers. Slashdot continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Slashdot is dead.

So why now? Why did Slashdot fail? Once you get over the myriad of incompatible personalities, particularly among the editors who have repeatedly failed to check for serious inaccuracies in their stories (see the FreeBSD 4.5 "release" as a shocking example), it's clear that subscribers will continue to decrease. Using software such as JunkBuster, readers can eliminate adverts without having to pay any money. These two significant factors, along with the corrupted "moderation" scheme (where editors have infinite power over the regular moderators), only confirm yet further that Slashdot's glory days are coming to an end.

Fact: Slashdot is dying

Resell? Hah! Try FREECELL! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152603)

Dear Dr. Goatse,
I am writing to you because I am in need of legal assistance. I am currently charged with murder, burglary, terrorism, and a wide variety of charges. The story behind these accusations is somewhat longwinded, but I will attempt to describe it below:

It all started when I was a child. I was the victim of sexual abuse by a deranged, obese, elderly babysitter. This man would babysit for me when my parents went on long vacations. As soon as they left, my normally cozy home turned into a sordid den of gay rape and bestiality. The old man, who by coincidence shared the name Ike with another famous gay man from a different troll, would act normally for a few hours after my parents departed. Soon, however, he would ask me to come sit on the sofa with him and watch television. While we watched the good old sitcoms on television, he would slowly move his wrinkled old hand onto my leg. I was too small and too scared to object, and he wouldn't have cared anyway, so I ignored him and continued to watch the TV. He massage my legs, moving in higher and higher circles with his warm, delicate touch. Eventually he would come to my buttocks, where he would slide his weathered hands into my shorts and continue his massage. At this point it would become very difficult for me to watch my shows, as he would squeeze my tender young asscheeks while breathing heavily (I think the sexual excitment presented some problems for him and his pacemaker). At some point, he would flick off the TV and pull my pants off, then my shirt. His semi-bald head glistened in the afternoon sun, and his white hair was matted to his head with his sweat. He would turn me over, and continue his massage. I didn't look back at him as we would get angry if I did anything other than staring ahead and pretending that nothing was happening.

Zzzzzzzzip! His zipper, with its sound easily susceptible to onomatopoeia, flew open. A few seconds later, his shining manhood flew outwards. My young asshole would clench in nervous anticipation of his anal invasion with his nine hard, throbbing, inches of man-meat. I could hear his weazing breath as he coughed some saliva onto his penis, rubbing it to make up for its geriatric lack of virility. While he aroused himself for his rectal piracy, he slid a finger into my clenched anus. Initially, the pain seemed unbearable; however, as time went on, I gradually relaxed and even came to shove my small boyish behind back onto his intruding finger, aching for prostate stimulation. Soon it was time: he withdrew his finger, and prepped his hard manhood for its intestinal odyssey into my backdoor. My bay breath quickened, and thoughts of his cragged, veined old manhood filled my mind like a Kreskin's semen in BSD's dying bowels. I felt a warm touch against my cheeks, and soon the head of his mantruder was nestled inside of my gripping sphincter. I gasped as his throbbing virility inched into my rear passages. Slowly but surely all of his nine inches invaded my bum, and I was left impaled on him. As I mentioned, he was quite obese, so his flabby, pasty stomach with its green varicrose veins were pressed against my young back. At this point my eyes bugged out of my head as his cock buggered into my asshole. Soon the pumping began: there was some pain, and while it did multiply as time went on, the pleasure grew too, but at an exponential rate. Taking into account other factors, the overall satisfaction could be measured by the equation S(x) = GAMMA(x) - 20x, where GAMMA is the standard gamma function. As you can see, it would be only a short time (about 6 seconds) before I was in throes of esctacy. Alas; all good things must come to an end, and soon Ike was ready to shoot his seed deep into my poop chute. As his semen shot forth into the deep, moist unknown, I moaned "Oh yes!" with such a force that I could have burst through a brick wall and dispensed sugary beverages such as Kool-aid and Capri-Sun. His steaming stringy semen oozed its way in reverse through my digestive system. At this point, Ike's old heart was just about ready to give out, so he withdrew from me, his deflating tool making a popping noise as it emerged from my violated ass. He collapsed into a seething heap of ancient pedophile on my couch, as I masturbated myself to orgasm nearby, my gaping hole still wide open to the air.

Soon afterwards, he would begin the oral sex; however, I fear I am going even further offtopic than a (-1, Offtopic/Troll) post should be. It is not immidiately obvious how this affected the later events of my life, so I will simply tell you:

Eventually, Ike died of a heart attack. Apparently his morbid obesity and lack of exercise (except for child molestation) lead to complete heart faliure, and he kicked the bucket while embedded in the ass of an eight year old girl a few towns over. I had come to enjoy our sexual escapades, and I realized that I could never go for normal sex with people my own age. No, I had to succumb to the pedophilia that invaded the mind of my friend Ike. On the other hand, these escapades had caused what other would term as 'severe psychologial problems', but I would term as 'englightenment for moral nihilists'. Do not fear, my friend, as I did not turn into some sort of teenage wigger wannabe rapper quoting Nietzche and shoplifting Wriggley's Spearmeante from the local corner store. Instead, I spent my teenage years at home. At first I watched the same sitcoms that Ike and I watched when he was still alive, however, the station was soon taken off the air when they were bought out by the Kool-Aid people. This greatly irritated me, as I had been busy being raped by Ike when these shows had been on the first time, so I never got a chance to watch them all. Oh, yes, I never got a chance to masturbate while imagining the incredible incest in that second Brady Bunch movie: you remeber that scence, don't you? Where Greg and Marcia live in the attic, and Greg starts getting hard when he sees Marcia taking it off behind some sort of rotting camelskin covering seperating their sides of the bedrooms? But I digress; back to my sorry tale. When these shows were taken off the air, I am afraid that I had no choice but to retreat to my room and masturbate furiously for hours on end. With the possible exception of some cases of hemospermotomia, and the worried attitudes of my parents, I lived a happy, fulfilled life. Fulfilled except for my desire for small children to brutally rape and possibly murder then eat like a cannibal.

You might think that I got nowhere in life, and you would be fairly accurate. However, I eventually found a small cottage in a rural village somewhere out in the Midwest, in a town with many small children and trusting parents. I knew that someday I wanted to rape one of them, however, the chance never arrived. This all changed one October.

I was watching the news in my small shack, on the small TV I had bought to watch sitcoms on before I realized that broadcast TV is full of shitty reality shows and useless news like 'Madonna has baby' and 'Terrorists steal planes and hit stuff'. I noted that Halloween was approaching, and that there were a plethora of anouncements proclaiming loudly to the world that small children should be looked after, and not allowed to eat apples and dead tarantulas that people may hand out for fear of razor blades. They stated that the problem might be paticularly troublesome this year as many children were forced to trick-or-treat alone, while their parents protested the idiocy of the reality shows on televesion and some sort of war in Iraqistan or something. I realized that this presented the perfect oppurtunity for me: unsupervised children knocking on my door was as tempting and satisfying as a drink of Kool-aid right before you die in Death Valley after trying to hike through the whole thing with a paper cup of water, like that idiot on the Darwin Awards. So I carefully prepared my candy, if by candy you mean semen-filled pieces of shit that came out of my ass. The night approached; and I continued my streak of masturbating furiously, stopping to sample my candy. It wasn't bad, it was better than those coconut candy pieces of shit that they sell in those damn preppy expensive chocolate stores. I was in the middle of plunging my cock into my iron grip when my doorbell rang. I leapt out of bed, like a gay Batman impersonater on his way to Robin's Anal Virginity Party. With nothing but kind, happy, child-molesting lust in my eyes, I opened the door to see... Ike? could it really be Ike?

"Trick or treat!" exclaimed the minature demoness dressed in an old man suit. It took me a second to realize that that was not in fact Ike come back from the dead weighing 200 pounds less and being three feet shorter, but instead some sort of child whose crack-addicted mother decided that dressing her daughter as an old man was a perfectely acceptable way to costume her for Halloween. I decided right then and there that no matter how tempting the other prey I might catch that night could be, I wanted this Ike impersonater right there. I grabbed the girl, who was only seven or so, and burst back into my cottage with girl in arms. Using my shit-candy to gag her, I proceded to tie her up and drag her down into my basement. With what can only be described as loving, urging fear in her eyes, she looked at me in desperation. She must want my cock so badly, I thought to myself. I pulled her old man suit off of her, to find that she had a perfect little ass just ready for my Mantruder. As I have already described in detail the anal rape of a child, I might as well skip this part and procede to the warm afterglow in which I happily cockslapped a seven year old girl who was engaged in muffled screaming. At this point, I decided to fulfill one of my greatest fantasies: murder and then cannibalism. Grabbing my hand knife off of the wall, which I normally use to hack the tops off of wonderfully delicious bottles of Kool-aid, I ended the life of the girl quite quickly with a jab to the throat. I then proceded to slice open her stomach and feast on her insides. I cannot describe the ecstacy involved in drinking the blood and eating the internal organs of a small seven year old child who was previously dressed as my old obese gay manfriend.

After boiling the heart in steaming blood I consumed it with a side of asscandy. It was delicous. The taste was only improved by the heaping glass of red Kool-aid on the side. When I had finally finished my cannibalistic feast, I realized that I had a problem. There was a dead girl in my basement, and she would be starting to smell very soon. I realized what I had to do: dump her in the ocean. This was no easy feat, as I said I now lived in the Midwest. However, the spirit of Ike was appearing in my mind, and I realized that this was the only thing to do. Ike also told me that I needed to ensure that the girl floated back to shore, as the police needed to be investigating the dead body on the beach and not arresting John Connor for robbing a fucking vet and eating dog neutering drugs on Judgement Day. I wasn't quite sure how to accomplish this: After eating the internal organs of the girl, the lungs, which would normally cause the body to float because of air left inside of them, were now gone. I needed another way to make her float. I was walking around my basement when I happened upon a solution: a cardboard box filled with those styrofoam packing peanuts that the left-wing animal nuts seem to hate when the complain about how stupid most people are and how, just because they have an IQ between 75 and 100, they are superior to all those right-wing fundies. Knowing that the peanut box would float, I carefully made a plan to fulfill my mandate from Ike. I took the packing peanuts and forced them into the body of the little girl. I placed her into the box, and filled it with the remaining packing peanuts. Sticking the box into the back of my van, I set out on an amazing road trip equaled only by the movie Road Trip. Again, not wishing to bore you with the details, I arrived at the East Cost with Kool-Aid and dead girl in hand. Chucking the dead girl into the ocean, I quipped a "Oh, yeah!" one liner and took a delightful sip of my sugary beverage. If only there had been a brick wall, I could have burst through it and dispensed beverages in a manner similar to the metaphorical manner in which Ike's semen did the same thing many years before.

I arrived home to find that a police invesigation was taking place, but there were no suspects in the kidnapping of the little girl. Deciding to lay low, I hung out in my home for a few days watching TV. I discovered that, to my eternal delight, there was a marathon dedicated totally to the old sitcoms that I missed back in the days when Ike raped me. My mouth watering with anticipation (I had been conditioned to arousal by these shows as Ike usually raped me while they were on; Pavlov's dogs stike again, unlike that pussy Balto in the Disney movie). However, the TV had only been on for five minutes, when suddenly a fuse broke inside of the television. The joyous images on the screen faded quickly, and I was left with my heart shattered like a broken mug of Kool-Aid. Why? Why, Panasonic, why? Of all the times for my television to break, why did it have to be now? I decided that, despite the risks of going outdoors, I needed another television. I couldn't live without my sitcoms. So, I jumped back into my van, and sped away, looking for a TV to steal. I came upon a house left unguarded in the rear neighborhoods. Climbing out of my van, and climbing into the window of the house, I noticed a wonderful flatscreen TV. I quickly removed it from the wall, and retreated to my truck after making myself a nice Kool-Aid enema in the kitchen.

I returned home and flipped on my new flatscreen TV, only to find the the extraordinarily unlikely had happened: the marathon had been cancelled in favor of a news report. As if this wasn't enough, the content of the news report was enough to send me into paroxysms of rage. Apparently, the same family whose daughter disappeared on Halloween night while trick or treating had their new flatscreen TV stolen. Police suspect they may have found DNA evidence when they found what appeared to be Kool-Aid and shit splashed all over the kitchen. There was some good news, however: the marathon was being rescheduled for later that week. Unfortunately, in a completely random, unexpected, and dissapointing act of deus-ex-machina, my new also blew a fuse. I sat shocked in my chair for a moment.

Soon, however, my paroxysms of rage were back. "God damnit! All I wanted was to watch my sitcoms!" I screamed. Soon, however, a plan formed in my mind. I could send my TV in for repair to Panasonic (I couldn't send in the new flatpanel as the evil RFID would let them identify it as stolen). All I needed was to pack the TV back into the original box and ship it away to Panasonic headquarters. I raced downstairs to find the TV box. As you may have already guessed, I didn't find it. It only took a moment before I realized exactly where the TV box was: in the Atlantic ocean, with a dead girl inside of it. "Nooooooooooooo!" I screamed. Now I had no chance of getting my TV repaired, and I would never see my sitcoms as the police were likely to find me before there was another marathon. The sheer hatred for Panasonic and their shoddy manufacturing rushed through my veins like tasty, refreshing Kool-Aid rushing down my throat. All I wanted was one thing: To have my vengeance against Panasonic and the trouble they caused me.

In a few minutes, I was down at the hardware store buying that same fertilizer that Tim McVeigh used when he wanted to go blow up some other, non-Panasonic building. As I was packing my truck with the fertilizer, Ike appeared to me. "Take these blasting caps; thou shalt need them for thy bombing of the Panasonic." So I stuck them in my van, and I was off to Panasonic headquarters. A few hours later, I parked my van outside the Panasonic headquarters. After running off a suitible distance, I detonated the bomb, taking out all those shoddy TV bastards once and for all. Needless to say, I was arrested soon afterwards.

Well, that concludes my woeful tale. Could you please give me a recomendation as to what I should do in this situation? Plead insanity, perhaps? Or go to prision and spend my spare time trolling Slashdot?

The Messiah of Our Lord Ike the Obese Pedophile

Re:Resell? Hah! Try FREECELL! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152619)

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Thank you so much.

Nigger Owner's Manual (GPL) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152627)

Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your nigger will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.


You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately on unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.


Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat


Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.


Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.


Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most prominent anatomical feature, after all, its oversized buttocks, which have evolved to make it more comfortable for your nigger to sit around all day doing nothing for its entire life. Niggers are often good runners, too, to enable them to sprint quickly in the opposite direction if they see work heading their way. The solution to this is to *dupe* your nigger into working. After installation, encourage it towards the cotton field with blows of a wooden club, fence post, baseball bat, etc., and then tell it that all that cotton belongs to a white man, who won't be back until tomorrow. Your nigger will then frantically compete with the other field niggers to steal as much of that cotton as it can before the white man returns. At the end of the day, return your nigger to its cage and laugh at its stupidity, then repeat the same trick every day indefinitely. Your nigger comes equipped with the standard nigger IQ of 55 and a memory to match, so it will forget this trick overnight. Niggers can start work at around 5am. You should then return to bed and come back at around 10am. Your niggers can then work through until around 10pm or whenever the light fades.


Your nigger enjoys play, like most animals, so you should play with it regularly. A happy smiling nigger works best. Games niggers enjoy include:

1) A good thrashing: every few days, take your nigger's pants down, hang it up by its heels, and have some of your other niggers thrash it with a club or whip. Your nigger will signal its intense enjoyment by shrieking and sobbing.

2) Lynch the nigger: niggers are cheap and there are millions more where yours came from. So every now and then, push the boat out a bit and lynch a nigger.

Lynchings are best done with a rope over the branch of a tree, and niggers just love to be lynched. It makes them feel special. Make your other niggers watch. They'll be so grateful, they'll work harder for a day or two (and then you can lynch another one).

3) Nigger dragging: Tie your nigger by one wrist to the tow bar on the back of suitable vehicle, then drive away at approximately 50mph. Your nigger's shrieks of enjoyment will be heard for miles. It will shriek until it falls apart. To prolong the fun for the nigger, do *NOT* drag him by his feet, as his head comes off too soon. This is painless for the nigger, but spoils the fun. Always wear a seatbelt and never exceed the speed limit.

4) Playing on the PNL: a variation on (2), except you can lynch your nigger out in the fields, thus saving work time. Niggers enjoy this game best if the PNL is operated by a man in a tall white hood.

5) Hunt the nigger: a variation of Hunt the Slipper, but played outdoors, with Dobermans. WARNING: do not let your Dobermans bite a nigger, as they are highly toxic.


Niggers die on average at around 40, which some might say is 40 years too late, but there you go. Most people prefer their niggers dead, in fact. When yours dies, report the license number of the car that did the drive-by shooting of your nigger. The police will collect the nigger and dispose of it for you.



Have it put down, for god's sake. Who needs an uppity nigger? What are we, short of niggers or something?


They all do this. Shorten your nigger's chain so it can't reach any white women, and arm heavily any white women who might go near it.


Not unless it outnumbers you 20 to 1, and even then, it's not likely. If niggers successfully overthrew their owners, they'd have to sort out their own food. This is probably why nigger uprisings were nonexistent (until some fool gave them rights).


Yeah, well, it would. Tell it to shut the fuck up.


A nigger's skin is actually more or less transparent. That brown color you can see is the shit your nigger is full of. This is why some models of nigger are sold as "The Shitskin".


What you have there is a "wigger".


They're as common as dog shit and about as valuable. In fact, one of them was President between 1992 and 2000. Put your wigger in a cage with a few hundred genuine niggers and you'll soon find it stops acting like a nigger. However, leave it in the cage and let the niggers dispose of it.


And you were expecting what?


This is normal.


Where are we, Wonderland? You'll have a lot of trouble getting it to fornicate with *other* niggers.


I don't really understand the question ("better quality of nigger"...?WTF?)

Sad news, Stephen King dead at 54 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152654)

I just heard some sad news on talk radio - horror/fiction writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details yet. I'm sure we'll all miss him, even if you weren't a fan of his work there's no denying his contribution to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

MOD PARENT UP!!!!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152692)

this is shocking news..


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152732)

If I ever meet Ben Fucking Franklin, I WILL KICK HIS ASS!!!!


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152938)

See, this works on so many levels. You can use it twice a year (spring back / fall forward). The average slashdotter is not a morning person, even under ideal circumstances. It maligns a universally revered American founding father. It's got rage. It makes no fucking sense. And it has a fine, traditional, "will kick his ass" punchline.

OFFTOPIC - Alternate story (-1, Offtopic)

mgebbers (252737) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152584)

Am I the only one who initially saw a story about a SONY DVD/PVR combo click it, and have it replaced by this story?

Re:OFFTOPIC - Alternate story (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152596)

saw it too - clicking got me this message:
"Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."

nice treatment.

Re:OFFTOPIC - Alternate story (0, Offtopic)

mgebbers (252737) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152694)

Exactly what I got, and I already made up a 'funny ' reply to the DVD/PVR combo story :-/

What, the DVD/PSX/PVR combo doesn't come with HDTV/DOG/NICAM? Although I'll assume that it comes with IR/LEDs/DSAT/EPROM/EPG just in case the LNB doesn't work

Note: To any mods who will read this story and the upcoming story about the sony DVD/PVR, it's late here and I can't stay up all night just to post on the right story, so would you please add +1 funny moderation points to this post instead!

Re:OFFTOPIC - Alternate story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152763)

Stop whining over lost opportunities. U'r not teh funnay.

Re:OFFTOPIC - Alternate story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152758)

I got that yesterday when clicking "Read More". I clicked it again and it went to the page.

Strange behavior I thought...

Re:OFFTOPIC - Alternate story (1)

!the!bad!fish! (704825) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152746)

WTF?br> RTFA its 100% Sony DVD/PVR and nothing else.

Re:OFFTOPIC - Alternate story (1)

identity0 (77976) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152890)

Shit! It's a glitch in the Matrix! Quick, grab your guns and head for the nearest landline! They'll never take us al$#@... NO CARRIER

first to post eh (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152585)

and my first overall

Go Arnold Go! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152716)

Go Arnold Go!

I usually vote for the Democrats. However, not this time. Good riddance Davis!

Half Life II delayed until April 2004 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152586)

No joke... []

lick it slashbots (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152588)

wild willy in the hizouse!!

SVG a Huge plus (3, Informative)

Doesn't_Comment_Code (692510) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152593)

The addition of vector graphics definitely pushes Gimp over the edge. I used to use Gimp for all sorts of little images, but occasionally had to opt for something commercial because many print corporations only use vector graphics.

Way to go Gimp! If doing practically everything photoshop can do for free didn't put Gimp on the map. The addition of SVG ought to.

SVG a Huge plus-A step forward. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152686)

Two things. How much of the SVG spec will the GIMP handle (import and export) i.e. filters.

Does this mean that I can now convert bitmaps to vector (harder to get right)?

Re:SVG a Huge plus (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152695)

we need ImageMagick to support it in covert. Not everyone has the Adobe SVG plugin and saving as a JPG via screenshots is a pain.

Then I would be happy :)

Re:SVG a Huge plus (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152721)

convert even.

I'm with you 99%. (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152747)

convert odd.

Re:SVG a Huge plus (5, Informative)

Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152709)

What would put GIMP on the map is an easier interface (although 1.3 is a vast improvement, it still ain't photoshop)

Also, if you want a good vector graphics editor for free, try SodiPodi. It's good. Especially for a 0.3 level program.

P.S. This isn't meant to be rude to GIMP. It's being compared only to THE BEST. They actually have a better interface than most other programs that compete with Photoshop (that is, programs that I've tried).

Re:SVG a Huge plus (2, Insightful)

johnnyb (4816) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152766)

I'm sorry, GIMP's interface may not be perfect, but Photoshop's is 1000x worse. The reason people "prefer" it is because it's what they are used to, not because of any inherent advantage to it. The only thing nice about Photoshop's interface is their custom-painted widgets. But if Photoshop isn't the only app running in your session, it's a pain to work with.

Re:SVG a Huge plus (2, Insightful)

Eric Ass Raymond (662593) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152864)

it is because it's what they are used to, not because of any inherent advantage to it.

I'm constantly amazed by this argument.

As if there was an objective way of comparing user interfaces. The only real measure of how good an interface is is how comfortable people feel while using it.

There's nothing wrong in liking a GUI because you're used to it. However, trying to coerce people to start using "a better GUI" (be it Gimp vs. Photoshop or X desktop vs. Win GUI) is wrong. There's no "better GUI" than the one you're already familiar with!

Re:SVG a Huge plus (2, Insightful)

FooBarWidget (556006) | more than 10 years ago | (#7153037)

Yes there is: you just have to discover it. I much prefer GNOME 2 over Windows XP. By your reasoning, Windows 95 is the best GUI for me because I was familiar with that before everything else!

Re:SVG a Huge plus (1)

iapetus (24050) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152860)

From a quick look at Sodipodi (tried to edit the colour of a path with it, discovered that the saved file didn't seem to be compatible with Batik, did it in a text editor instead) it's a perfect example of a program that needs an easier interface. :)

Re:SVG a Huge plus (1)

paroneayea (642895) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152878)

Ah, making comics will be ever so much the easier now :)

Honestly, this makes me quite happy, because the Gimp is my favorite of all graphic editors.... yes, much better than photoshop or paint shop pro. Makes me wonder if these improvements are going to be ported there way over to Cinepaint?

Re:SVG a Huge plus (1)

TheTomcat (53158) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152991)

AFAIK, The Gimp still has no CMYK support, so it is still [largely] unusable for print.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though.. haven't looked at The Gimp in many months.


Re:SVG a Huge plus (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7153000)


If only the Gimp worked well with LaTeX. As it stands, I don't think it has a chance of displacing the mighty mighty xfig.

GIMP website interface... (3, Informative)

chill (34294) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152600)

The look of will be changing [] .

Re: the sig (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152859)

But without the laws,
how could you tell the good from the bad?

It sure changed, alright... (0)

StandardCell (589682) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152980)

Slashdotted out of existence, to be exact.

SVG is the future (4, Informative)

CausticWindow (632215) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152606)

Get an SVG enabled Mozilla build [] and start playing with it. It's fun.

Re:SVG is the future (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152757)

Integrated SVG also avoid EOLAS Plug-in patents!

Re:SVG is the future (1)

sketerpot (454020) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152889)

I'm holding out for a SVG enabled Firebird build. Firebird is a lot nicer for me than the vanilla Mozilla, but compiling my own is, right now, not an option. I'm stuck on windows, which doesn't have the Gentoo ports system or anything!

Re:SVG is the future (1)

aDc_73 (580138) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152899)

SVG in the KDE 3.2a also looks pretty sweet [] ;-)

How robust is SVG? (1)

XSforMe (446716) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152942)

How well does it scale? AutoCAD seems to be the current champion when it comes to vector graphics. I would not consider SVG until I could see some heavy duty 2D schematics done with this tool.

Our shop has been drawing in dwg format for the last 2 years, but when it comes to integrating our drawings with the final report we have always have to print it out and rescan it as raster to have semi-decent results in word. Its either that or spend a bundle in the Autoview's plugin for Word to be able to import into Word.

Mozilla SVG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7153050)

I love Mozilla, and have been using it regularly since about the .8 release.

I definitely feel that integrated SVG is one of those impressive features, if only in development, that makes Mozilla stand apart from other browsers. I am really enthusiastic about Mozilla SVG in general, as I think it sets an important standard.

Having said that, though, every time I've tried Mozilla SVG, it seems really lacking. Either entire feature sets--some of them among the most important--have been missing, or they have depended on some complex set of libraries, dlls, or other dependencies. It wasn't too long ago that there was some concern that Mozilla SVG would never be fully compliant because of licensing issues.

I'm not complaining--I'm very impressed with the Mozilla SVG project in general, and want to express my appreciation to those involved. I think it's a great and very important project, and think they deserve every bit of praise they can get. To be fair to the Mozilla SVG group, they don't really seem very behind, if at all, relative to other browser-plugin SVG implementations I've seen.

I'm posting more because I'm puzzled that there isn't more involvement or development, and am wondering why the SVG project isn't given more central attention. Why are there separate SVG builds, for example; why aren't the SVG features integrated into standard releases? Are there still licensing problems?

I would help if I could. To be honest, I don't have the right programming background to be of any use, and especially don't have graphics programming background. I'm interested in SVG as a vehicle for various things I'm interested in, such as graphical statistics.

SVG is not the future (2, Interesting)

FooBarWidget (556006) | more than 10 years ago | (#7153053)

Not until it's supported by Internet Explorer.
This is not a troll, this is the truth. Joe Average doesn't care; a new vector graphics format is only exciting to geeks. Joe Average only cares about "images", regardless of the underlying technology.
Unless either IE supports SVG natively, or everybody has an SVG plugin, SVG will never become popular.

sorry (-1)

Dikky (613893) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152610)

I for one welcome our new SVG overlords! But, will this give us better p0rn?

I'm with you ... 0%! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152988)

What, you think vector porn is all that good?

Too bad no true geek uses Gimp. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152617)

Try windowmaker noob.

Finally.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152624)

I can work on my SVGs in Gimp. I was really getting sick with SodiPodi when doing experimental graphics design.

Sony Combo (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152631)

Its great that Sony is finally going to release a combo DVR, DVD-R, and PS2 unit...

Oh wait a second, this is now a story on GIMP? What's up with that? :(

GIMP for Windows? (1, Troll)

JeanPaulBob (585149) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152638)

I checked the GIMP for Windows [] website, and it seems 1.3.2 isn't out yet for us poor non-Windows users. Does anyone know when it'll be available?

Re:GIMP for Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152773)

It IS available, and a lot better version too. It's called "Pirated Photoshop 7" =\

Oh come on, don't be a pussy. EVERYONE has pirated ps7.

What does this mean for Sodipodi? (5, Interesting)

Chilltowner (647305) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152639)

I wonder what the Sodipodi [] developers are going to do with this. Hopefully, there will be lots of cooperation. Sodipodi is rapidly maturing into a truly great vector graphics app for Linux and Windows (and OS X over X11, I'd guess). If the two projects cooperated, we could have an Illustrator killer on our hands!

Re:What does this mean for Sodipodi? (1)

p3d0 (42270) | more than 10 years ago | (#7153075)

Could it also be a Flash killer?

Three Questions (5, Interesting)

Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152640)

1) Did they waste time writing it all themselves, or are they interworking with SodiPodi? SodiPodi is an excellent piece of software if you want to edit SVG.

2) Does it just import them and make paths, or is it a full-featured SVG editor? Someone else commented on it now being Photoshop+Illustrator, but that's a whole different thing. Photoshop also supports importing SVG and AI format, it just doesn't edit them. (see question three)

3) Does it make this simple? I've tried to figure a way to do both Vector and Raster editing in one program before, and had some ideas, but nothing that would truly make it easy. The reason Illustrator and Photoshop are separate is not for the chance to sell two products (although I suspect that influences the idea a bit) but because there isn't a way to do vector and raster editing in a well mixed manner. At best, you end up with something that changes back and forth between being a vector editor and a raster editor depending on what is selected.

Re:Three Questions (1)

Cyclops (1852) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152682)

A long time ago when I still used non-free software, there was this pretty usefull MacOS application called SuperPaint which incorporated Paint and Draw (it rocked...).

As for UI, well, I just had to click a swap view button and the tool bars would change to something appropriate.

So yeah, I think its relatively simple.

Re:Three Questions (3, Informative)

Pope Raymond Lama (57277) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152698)

The answer for the three questions is:

All that was added is the ability to
import and export raster files encapsulated
as SVG - AND import and export Gimp vector - The Bezier Paths existing in gimp 1.2.x.

Re:Three Questions (3, Interesting)

Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152727)

Bezier paths alone do not a vector graphics program make.

Re:Three Questions (4, Insightful)

Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152755)

Sorry. That sounded rude. I should think longer before I say things.

Re:Three Questions (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152728)

1) I can't comment on this one. I hope they are working together.

2) Again, good question.

3) Macromedia Fireworks has had vector and bitmap graphics side by side for some time now. It isn't too great for large file sizes, but it is pretty awesome otherwise. I hope GIMP can compare to it. Once you get used to the Macromedia way of doing things, it is pretty easy to use. Your point is well taken, however, it can be confusing to edit bother vector and bitmap graphics with the same program.

Re:Three Questions (1)

GundyRage (611514) | more than 10 years ago | (#7153051)

Basically, SVG can be imported and then used as paths. It also looks like the paths could be exported as SVG. This is not meant to be an "illustrating" program. Paths are nice to get smooth strokes and masks but you would not use this to generate your line art for a new logo or whatever. More likely, you would take the logo, pull the best vectors out of it, save them to SVG and then import it into the Gimp where you could then use that to simplify the creation of your raster based logo.

I could be wrong about all of this since I was unable to build it last night. I would have needed to many updates to my system. :( I guess I'll wait till it goes 2.0. :)

Anyway it's good to see the Gimp rockin' on. I for one hope Sodipodi (pure SVG) gets a boost by the attention SVG is getting from this. - G


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152641)

Sister Jean stole the fucking files!!!

SVG rendering engine? (3, Insightful)

4of12 (97621) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152644)

So what does the GIMP use to render SVG and how good is it?

In particular, is it different from the libart that Mozilla has been using?

The world really needs a high quality open source SVG renderer. Adobe's plugins don't exist for every platform and Batik, AFAIK, relies on Java 2D.

Re:SVG rendering engine? (5, Informative)

msevior (145103) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152842)

I believe it uses librsvg. The fastest and most complaint SVG renderer out there.

(Maintained by my good friend and fellow AbiWord developer Dom Lachowicz)


big? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152651)

I think this is big but I don't know why! The cat and the dog have taken all the fight out of me- been there?

JPG properties (3, Interesting)

javatips (66293) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152656)

Any news if GIMP now (or will) retain properties embeded in JPG images when saving as JPG?

V1.2.4 does not support this which make it an inconvenient choice to edit pictures taken with a digital camera. All JPG properties like date the picture was shot and other parameters get lost when saving.

Re:JPG properties (4, Informative)

Captain Large Face (559804) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152705)

Apparently [] , EXIF data is kept in JPEG files from version 1.3.16, which should be what you're after.

Buy PhotoShop (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152662)

You GNU hippies should learn to program Adobe PhotoShop.

rudimentary CMYK separation also (3, Informative)

ubiquitin (28396) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152663)

There is also a rudimentary plugin now which handles CMYK color separations here. [] Also, the MacGIMP [] site had a story on the SVG changes as well before it was posted on Slashdot.

awesome (1)

romanofski (703540) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152680)

I tested the ex- and import features of the paths with sodipodi and have only three words for ya: This is awesome!

Wow. SVG in late 2003 (-1, Flamebait)

Buttercup (22814) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152702)

I give up, GIMP *really* is a viable Photoshop alternative, after all!

more good gnus? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152706)

from a previously PostBlocked(tm) post:

morons confirm progress vs. unprecedented evile (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 07, @09:13AM (#7152266)
the daze of the phonIE payper liesense softwar gangster stock markup FraUD execrable is #ed.

many more changes are pending.

consult with/trust in yOUR creator. avoid associations with greed/fear based felons/the walking dead.

The GIMP New Web Site (4, Informative)

Pope Raymond Lama (57277) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152731)

The GIMP is on the road for a 2.0 release that shall happen this year. Actually, this 1.3.21 release shall be the last one before the 2.0pre release series.

Do not miss the new GIMP site, taht will soon replace the contents in [] .

and how about mozilla? (1)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152817)

From what I remember, mozilla and adobe have different way to show SVG, so which one does GIMP support better?

Exif in Gimp (-1, Redundant)

denisbergeron (197036) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152844)

I know SVG is cool! But Exif is better !
I know that a feature request is open in the Gimp Bugzilla since 2001-06-20 !

Someone know if somebody working on It ?

Other goodies to look foward to in gimp 1.3.x (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152915)

The new improved GUI, complete with easier menus, new docking system, frendlier help.

CMYK support!

Now uses GTK 2, no more ugly fonts, no more GREY, its all in the colour you want!

Hundreds of new plugins, and there is the excellent plug in registry as well. If there isn't a filter you wan't then it can easily be created due to the GIMP's API

Support for standards from the freedesktop project, including thumnails.

The new Docking gui, which allows you to reduce your screen clutter! Just drag and drop those tabs!

Much faster, starts in around 3 seconds, and it uses MMX extentions to accelerate your graphics filters.

Simply put, gimp 1.3.x is really powerful, and Adobe should start to become worried. Remember, if the feature you wan't isn't there, it will be soon due to the extremly rapid development. Even a 0.01 increment == TONS of features!

Also, the "gimp" himself looks a lot cuter in SVG.

Nice, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7153073)

Does it have a usable UI? Can I draw a straight line n-pixels wide without having to learn some secret key combination? Can I fill a one-pixel area without having to go through all sorts of selection crap? Can I rotate the image n degrees? I still boot Windoze-95 to use Paint Shop Pro when I have to do graphics work, it's so much easier to use and much more intuitive than the Gimp. This isn't intended as flame-bait, this is IMO a legitimate bitch about an unusable UI... free is nice, but I'd pay for a Linux version of PaintShop just to have a sane and usable graphics package.

SVG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7152926)

I had the SVG once, and the doctor gave me antibiotics.

Almost there (1)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 10 years ago | (#7152986)

I took another look at gimp the other day (as i do with lots of programs im trying to replace with oss) and noted the bad path features - i couldnt even stretch a path (unless im missing something), although selection -> path was damn good and useful! also i couldnt stretch fonts or export them to paths (unless i used selection -> path tool which probably isnt optimised for that). I'll take another look, but i cant wait for 2.0! thats gotta rock - although i have no idea what they are going to do? - if they added CMYK (which means re-writing all the filters) and they made some sort of effects stack (photoshop has started to do that with layer effects for drop shadow, glow, outline etc. and filter layers for contrast/levels etc.) they could beat photoshop to the ground! Effects stacks are vital in my opinion, which is why blender hasnt caught my eye yet (3D Max has a good stack). CMYK is also pretty vital but i would live without it - not doing print work.

The last thing i found gimp lacking in was a macro feature - obviously it has the most extensive scripting/plug-in ability ive ever seen but it needs a basic macro for 5-min jobs that even art students can figure out how to use.

Re:Almost there (2, Informative)

13Echo (209846) | more than 10 years ago | (#7153060)

CMYK is now supported in this version. By the time this branch becomes "stable", it should have almost all of the features that people have been complaining about. has more info.

SVG support? (2, Interesting)

bender647 (705126) | more than 10 years ago | (#7153040)

A barrier for me using SVG is that the graphics I make are not importable into the (MS) tools the people I work with use. If I was pointed to a good SVG2something tool, I'd be more excited.

I don't mean to gripe but.... (4, Informative)

MarcoAtWork (28889) | more than 10 years ago | (#7153072)

This is not flamebait, but why instead of focusing development efforts on stuff that has marginal appeal at best, the developers don't try to implement the #1 missing feature in GIMP (for photo retouching, IMHO of course)

Adjustment layers! (with masks)

and no, you can't really 'emulate' them with the currently available toolset unfortunately (remember that they have masks and are non-destructive).

I love GIMP but the absence of this feature (which is not exactly a new thing, even PSPro has it!) is really killing me...
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