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Apple Sets Oct. 24th Release For Mac OS X 10.3

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the unadulterated-press-release dept.

OS X 696

dricci writes "Yahoo! has posted a press release from Apple, regarding the release date of the next major Mac OS X update, 10.3 ('Panther'). The update will be available 8:00 p.m. on October 24th at Apple Retail Stores and Authorized Resellers for $129.00 US (Family Pack for up to 5 users will be $199). Pretty much the same pricing structure they had for Jaguar. It looks like 'old world' Beige G3 support has been discontinued -- the update requires a Mac with built in USB."

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rediculous (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162089)

paying for incremental updates is just crazy. if i had to pay for every service pack for windows, i'd be one broke motherfucker

Re:rediculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162117)

Then get a job at McDonalds. Work there for 4 hours a day for 5 days, and presto! You have $145 to spend on a OS X release.

Kids these days...

Infidel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162126)

This is no mere update, it's a complete reassessment of how, where, and what color life and the universe should be.

Re:rediculous (5, Insightful)

LemonYellow (244336) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162127)

Judging from the features that have been demoed so far, this is an upgrade of a similar size to that from Win2k to WinXP. So, paying for it isn't too unreasonable, is it?

Re:rediculous (5, Informative)

nat5an (558057) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162156)

Yeah, except, as I understand it, the difference is that 10.3 will actually run faster than 10.2 on the same system. As opposed to Win2k and WinXP on the same machine, where the converse is most definitely true.

Re:rediculous (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162255)

As opposed to Win2k and WinXP on the same machine, where the converse is most definitely true.

Most definitely not true if you compare the boot up and shutdown times.

Windows 2000 = syruuuuup... :-)

Re:rediculous...it's spelled ridiculous & U R (5, Informative)

adzoox (615327) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162139)

What are you talking about? If I recall:

10.2.1
10.2.3
10.2.4
10.2.6
10.2.8

Were all free, not to mention all the app and security fixes. Most of those updates weren't REQUIRED like the "free Windows updates" AND each time you updated you had to validate your Windows system under XP.

This is the release of X that everyone should want. faster, more stable on every machine I've tested it on.

Re:rediculous...it's spelled ridiculous & U R (0)

lederhosen (612610) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162231)

How is that possible? I thought MacOS X was rock
stable!!! How the hell can some one with an uptime
of years find that the new version is more stable?

Re:rediculous...it's spelled ridiculous & U R (1)

matchlight (609707) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162234)

I'm not trying to fuel any fire but I tend to agree with the principle of the original poster. Not that this release isn't worth paying for, just that if it is, why make it a point release?
From a marketing perspective it's much easier to sell something that not only is different but also looks different (i.e. the major version number)
I guess by looking at old Windows, 3.1 and 3.11 were different versions that were not just free upgrades AFAIK, but I never liked that naming scheme either. lol.

Re:rediculous...it's spelled ridiculous & U R (0)

Durin_Deathless (668544) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162283)

Another thing worth mentioning is the fact that Apple rolls all the updates up to a given point into combo updaters, which have saved me a lot of time doing an install. I installed 10.2 right before 10.2.6 came out, and I had one 90 meg download instead of 5 40 meg ones. Hugely helpful.

Re:rediculous...it's spelled ridiculous & U R (1, Interesting)

base3 (539820) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162289)

The OPs analogy was perfect. the 10.2.x updates you describe are hotfixes, and the 10.x are service packs. The difference being that even the big bad evil MS doesn't charge for service packs; and if they did, they'd be tarred and feathered here. But it's OK for Apple to charge for them.

Mod me down for telling the truth. I've got the karma.

Re:rediculous (3, Insightful)

fermion (181285) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162299)

You don't have to pay for it. You can live without it. Just like music or really cool sneakers, OS is not a life necessity, no matter what the propaganda wants you to believe.

And, if we use the MS argument against Linux, unless your time and bandwidth is worthless, you do pay or every incremental upgrade.

Shame Wallstreet isn't supported Bcause this is it (3, Informative)

adzoox (615327) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162100)

The only problem I find with the support is that the Wallstreet line PowerBooks, especially after adding a 500Mhz G4 upgrade was one of the best lines Apple ever made. I liked the Pismo line too, but the dual storage bay capability of the Wallstreet was a real plus. Floppy to floppy copy Expansion bay hard drive to floppy copy, or Zip and SuperDisk transfer was a real plus when I had to copy files for a client. I also upgraded my drive to DVD/CDRW combo drive.

That said, 10.3 is the release of Panther you have been waiting for. Dramatic increases in speed and launch times - and I just have an older prelease from WWDC.

Re:Shame Wallstreet isn't supported Bcause this is (0, Redundant)

call -151 (230520) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162334)

FYI Pismo has two expansion bays also, as I type from my dual battery Pismo.

Re:Shame Wallstreet isn't supported Bcause this is (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162339)

> 10.3 is the release of Panther you have been waiting for.

I heard that during the Jaguar launch. I'm sure you'll be saying the same damn thing when 10.4 is launched. I'm sick of spending big money on Apple every year.

Quit Apple for Lintel at OS 9, never looked back!

got it! (0)

nwanua (70972) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162102)

Ordered it this morning... I'm so psyched!
Can't wait, can't wait, can't wait.

Re:got it! (2)

rastachops (543268) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162201)

After trying out B85... I must say I'm not all that impressed. For $129 it really should be something special. Don't get me wrong, it has a more responsive GUI and Expose is excellent and the new Finder is a *lot* quicker... it just somehow doesn't feel worth the pricetag that they're asking for it.

Maybe I was hoping for too much for a .1 update but the GUI speed is no where near the speed of Windows (admittedly... it doesnt crash though :) ).

Just my $0.02

Re:got it! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162216)

Don't cum on that lovely Apple keyboard now, will you?

There now follows an important anouncement: (-1)

Rectal Examination (711652) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162103)

I've just been for a glorious dump.

Thankyou.

Re:There now follows an important anouncement: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162120)

The best goatse.cx-joke ever:

Goatse: I feel strange up my rectum.
Giver: We'll have to get to the bottom of this!

Re:There now follows an important anouncement: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162179)

hahahhaha


q: what's the difference between goatse.cx and apple computer?


a: goatse isn't gay.

A new troll species discovered: goatse-joke troll (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162236)

Uh-oh. Looks like the we'll soon have bad goatse-joke trolls in addition to the *BSD is dying and Soviet Russia trolls.

+1 interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162348)

Pics? Pics? I wanna see...!

MacOS 10.3 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162106)

MacOS is such a great OS. I would have to say it is because its built off FreeBSD technology.

However, the reason I dont have a Mac yet is because I like oranges, not apples.

sometimes my balls freeze in the winter.

I think MacOS needs to concentrate on building more applications and games. Gamers use Windows still because thats where the games are.

Re:MacOS 10.3 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162149)

>sometimes my balls freeze in the winter.

Try cutting them off.

Re:MacOS 10.3 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162171)

sometimes my balls freeze in the winter.

You live in Canada, right?

Why don't you move a bit further south? Let's say Florida: our very own tropical paradise state. Sunshine, friendly people and lots of fun!

Re:MacOS 10.3 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162221)

Friendly people? Like all those Cuban ex-pats who will cut off your balls just for looking at their nubile, dark and delicious 16-year old teen daughter in a wrong way?

Re:MacOS 10.3 (-1, Redundant)

Dead_Medic (662827) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162174)

Its always been one of Apples biggest downfalls is the lack of products available on their platform. They have by far superior hardware, but that just doesnt fancy many people except those often in a graphical field. There OS is also very innovative, and has less security problems (primarily since no one cares to try to hack a mac) Oh well waiting for the mac attack and the day where windows falls... (i think i will be waiting a long time)

You do. (-1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162108)

You do pay for ever Windows service pack, only they come every 3 years and cost twice as much.

no 'cheap' upgrade for purchases prior to Oct 8. (1)

Sebby (238625) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162110)

except for the G5s. Those thinking that buying 'slightly' before its (officially announced) realease will be disappointed.

Re:no 'cheap' upgrade for purchases prior to Oct 8 (0)

csoto (220540) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162148)

Some of us bought "Technology Assurance" this year, so upgrades are already paid for...

For indivduals, $130 ain't squat.

Re:no 'cheap' upgrade for purchases prior to Oct 8 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162208)

and certain europeans would stab their allies in the back

Re:no 'cheap' upgrade for purchases prior to Oct 8 (2, Insightful)

The Placid Casual (661461) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162213)

The OS 'Up To Date' program applies to all Apple computer purchases post 8th October, allowing an upgrade to 10.3 for the reduced 'handling fee' of $19.99.

However, I can see there will be a lot of new 12", 15" and 17" 'Alu' Powerbook owners that will feel they have been shafted having bought the new revised machines at the start of October...

Sucks if you just bought a new powerbook (2, Insightful)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162232)

That sucks. I shelled out $3k for their latest revision of the 17" powerbook on the second day it was released (Sept 17), only to find that the features they have been touting for so long (X windows, native & fast PDF support, X code) are going to cost. Why only the top of the line desktops - why not my more expensive top of the line laptop? My machine is newer than many G5s (although maybe they were trying to satisfy customers with long preorder times).

Re:Sucks if you just bought a new powerbook (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162310)

Just install gentoo and you necer have to OS upgrade again.

Countdown clock (5, Informative)

BWJones (18351) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162113)

Apple is running a very cool countdown clock on their main page here [apple.com].

Flash aside, this is one important update for Mac users and shows how much code optimization can get you in terms of performance. This release runs impressively fast on current hardware, but more importantly for the installed user base, it gives new life to older machines with good performance on machines going back several years.

Re:Countdown clock (0, Troll)

lederhosen (612610) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162167)

I do not belive it.

Programs generally do not get *that* much faster.
It is the same for Apple as for Microsoft; do not
expect a revolutionary faster OS. Remember that
the time taken by the OS, in most cases is below
1% of the total program execution time.

Re:Countdown clock (2, Informative)

ch0ke (129779) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162252)

program execution remains the same, it is the GUI that is much more responsive. dramatic difference on my iBook 600mhz and an old graphite toilet seat @ 366 mhz.

Re:Countdown clock (5, Informative)

Matthias Wiesmann (221411) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162304)

Remember that the time taken by the OS, in most cases is below 1% of the total program execution time.
While programs indeed spend little time executing operating system calls, GUI programs spend a lot of time in libraries and waiting on the graphical server. So by improving the libraries or the graphical server, performance and responsiveness can be dramatically improved. This is exactly the kind of optimisation that where done in 10.2, in particular with Quartz Extreme.

You have do understand that most Mac application rely on the system's libraries to do many task: GUI are dones using Quartz, media handling is typically done using Quicktime, DSP like calculations using vecLib and so on. Now you can debate if those libraries are part of the OS or not, the fact is, Panther will probably bring improvements to those libraries.

Re:Countdown clock (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162306)

Have you used the Panther versions floating out there? My iMac gets about a 30% increase in Finder graphics operations by using one of the developer versions of Panther. Let1KWindowsBloom runs about 57 seconds in 10.2.6 and about 33 seconds in Panther (even considering Panther is run off a FW HD).

Everything else is also *seems* faster, but I don't have objective numbers to back it up.

I don't expect a revolutionary faster OS, I do expect a much more responsive system.

Re:Countdown clock (5, Insightful)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162307)

You don't believe it?

Run an OS 10.0.4 box along side of a 10.1.0 box or a 10.0.4 along side a 10.2.0 box and then do a file copy or a browse to a network server and fart around with the machine at the sametime.

Or fire up IE and browse /. articles with more than 50 comments.

The OS does get *that* much faster.

Re:Countdown clock (3, Interesting)

Ranger Rick (197) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162313)

I've been using the prereleases of panther and it *is* noticably faster, I'd say pretty close to the difference in speed between 10.1 and 10.2.

Under the covers they've done a lot of work to make prebinding work better, for one thing, and gcc3.3 provides vast improvements in powerpc code over gcc3.1 (even apple's modified version).

Re:Countdown clock (4, Informative)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162183)

" Apple is running a very cool countdown clock on their main page here [apple.com]. Flash aside..."

Actually it appears to be a javascript type thing. I have flash disabled in mozilla (due to stupid flash ads) and I can still see it.

Re:Countdown clock (5, Interesting)

hype7 (239530) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162196)

Flash aside, this is one important update for Mac users and shows how much code optimization can get you in terms of performance


Absolutely! I'm not the biggest fan of XBench, but these numbers [hardmac.com] do paint a very impressive picture.

Regardless, don't forget the cool stuff Apple's adding - Expose is cool, I got a chance to play with a pre-release version of Panther and it's one of those things that you'll begin to wonder how the hell you ever lived without it. The other thing that I'm looking forward to is the on-the-fly, user-friend 128-bit AES encryption. Your computer goes walkies? Least the pricks don't get all your stuff.

-- james

Re:Countdown clock (3, Informative)

dthable (163749) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162235)

The other thing that I'm looking forward to is the on-the-fly, user-friend 128-bit AES encryption.

Yay, no more encryption by hand. I'm also looking forward to the secure delete function. I'd rather have all those proof of concept and rough design programs and documents destroyed if someone swipes my laptop in an airport.

Re:Countdown clock (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162259)

Yay, no more encryption by hand. I'm also looking forward to the secure delete function.

So, tell me. Have you stopped browsing for kiddie porn?

Re:Countdown clock (1)

KevCo (2333) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162290)

Everyone keeps saying this. I really hope it's true. 10.2 runs well on my 700Mhz iBook but I'd like to see a little performance boost.

It's refreshing to see an OS upgrade that focuses on improving performance rather than just throwing a bunch of additional bloat and wizards at me.

Yes, but... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162135)

does it run on Windows XP?

Re:Yes, but... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162245)

am i the only one that sees the humor in this? mod parent up.

Re:Yes, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162321)

Interesting!? Bah, mods on speed.

Worth it. (4, Insightful)

blackmonday (607916) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162146)

Jaguar's price was "worth it" because of the speed increases. This time around I'm satisfied that there's anough new functionality that I'll be putting down the cash.

Re:Worth it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162180)

subtract edu discount and factor in that i sorta kinda didn't buy jaguar...sounds like it's worth it to me.

i dunno... (1)

Box Checker (710832) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162150)

...if the feature set is worth the upgrade price for me. expose looks cool, and fast user switching would be nice, but neither are must haves in my opinion. the only thing i'd like is a more responsive finder, you know... snappier. haha. guess i'll just have to wait and get the reviews from people with older hardware like me.

Hooray!! (2, Insightful)

jcostantino (585892) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162153)

I for one am looking forward to Panther's release (as well as iTunes for PC) and I know that someone's going to cry about "The Apple Tax". Apple NEEDS your money, they can't just throw out free software forever, you know. I don't know if there is going to be a free upgrade voucher for units bought in the past month or two though. If I recall correctly, they did have a voucher for people who purchased a unit with 10.1 within a couple months of 10.2's release.

Jeff

Oblig. (0, Redundant)

chef_raekwon (411401) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162237)

I for one am looking forward to Panther's release

I for one welcome our new Panther Overlords.

Re:Oblig. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162270)

Anyone have a torrent?

~~~

Re:Oblig. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162291)

I for one am with you 20%.

Re:Hooray!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162241)

Hi. This is slashdot. Selling software is morally wrong. Apple MUST open source their OS and make money by selling support contracts.

Microsoft can do it... (0, Flamebait)

FatSean (18753) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162279)

Hell even IBM doesn't charge for point releases to AIX, an arguably superior *nix. I guess this is the price you pay to be 'Different'.

Liberate your software. (0, Funny)

Seth Finklestein (582901) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162165)

Frankly, I'm tired of Steve Jobs claiming he has a "revolutionary" new upgrade for my Macintosh every year. I don't think that this is worth $129.00.

Expose? Boring.

iChat AV? Hi, NetMeeting called. It wants its hype back.

Brushed metal Finder? Ugh.

"Favorites panel"? It's been an irritating part of Windows since 2000. I don't want it.

Instead, I implore all freedom-conscious netizens out there to send me, Seth Finklestein a copy of Mac OS X 10.3. Or, send a serial number so that I may liberate it off of KaZaA Plus [kazaaplus.com].

Re:Liberate your software. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162215)

Seth, your my hero.

Go ahead, correct my grammar too. I'm not worthy of using the backspace key when responding to your posts.

Old World Support (5, Funny)

kurosawdust (654754) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162176)

It looks like "old world" Beige G3 support has been discontinued -- the update requires a Mac with built in USB."

That's OK - the six guys to whom that would actually apply are still waiting for their copies of 10.2 to boot up.

Re:Old World Support (2, Informative)

Durin_Deathless (668544) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162257)

I am writing this on my(mostly stock) Beige G3/300. I have 256 megs of ram, and the only other upgrade is a ATI Rage 128. With those two upgrades this machine is nearly as responsive as a lot of the newer machines and it costs a lot less. I have used a Dual 1Ghz G4(the mirrored door model) and it feels about the same speed wise. Sure, Safari takes a very small amount of time less to launch. But that is so small, maybe a couple of seconds. I don't use this machine for iMovie or anything like that, and it suits my developing needs just fine. Apple has done a great job to make the new OSes work on old machines like mine. I may even try Panther once the XPostFacto people figure out the needed support....

Re:Old World Support (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162288)

This would be funny if it were somewhat based on truth. for me, OS X 10.2.x ran good with G3's with lots of RAM.

And now...! (5, Funny)

scaife (654891) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162178)

This version has special built-in protections to keep it from biting you in the neck while you're taunting it in front of your friends. And since its ferocity has been turned down, I suppose I can also expect that I'll need to pet it every once in a while.

Please tell me they fixed automounting (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162184)

Please tell me they dumped am-utils and went to an autofs code base to get rid of the !@#$ symbolic linking in the auto-mounting, and dumped the proprietary auto.master format.

Please?

Of course, the real question is... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162190)

...does it run on Linux?

More info on the Dev Tools too (5, Informative)

HellsAngel (582912) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162191)

They got more info on the Developer Tools too right here [apple.com] It uses GCC 3.3 now, and from the looks of it, Xcode is gonna rock! Oh, and if you'll look at the Darwin link, you'll notice that the Terminal in the image uses bash instead of tcsh. Darn, and I was just getting used to the C Shell too.=) Oh well then...

Business Model? (0, Insightful)

solaufein (576986) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162197)

Is this a sucessful business model? Put out a new OS every year? Sorry, I should say an "upgrade" every year, and charge users $129 every time? Yes, I know that Apple offers updates periodically throughout the year as errors pop-up, and does not charge for them. Though, as costly as the hardware to run it is, somehow I don't know that this works. Perhaps this explains why Apple is relagated to a somewhat niche market. (Read: Education (though less now than before), Graphics Design, Desktop Publishing, some Web Design, and some Music. (Sorry if I missed any.)) This may also be why businesses are willing to put up with Microsoft's flaws, and are now looking to Open Source. (No not OS X!, OS X is only slightly open source. But that's an argument for another time and another post.)

Re:Business Model? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162254)

Going for that default -1, huh :)?

~~~

Re:Business Model? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162352)

At least Apple's "upgrades" actually upgrade the OS. *cough* Windows 2k == Windows XP *cough*

iSync adds some support for more phones (2, Informative)

bunnyshooz (632195) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162200)

Apple also announced releasing new versions of iCal and iSync today: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/oct/08ical_is ync.html "iSync 1.2.1 adds complete calendar synchronization support for Symbian-based smartphones such as the Nokia 3650 and 7650, and the Sony Ericsson P800."

Panther (4, Interesting)

rampant mac (561036) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162204)

I had the chance to preview Panther on a friend's PowerBook (1Ghz Ti /w SuperDrive) recently. I was very impressed to see the speed improvements Panther brings to "older" machines. Imagine that, and operating system that removes bloat and performs better after subsiquent releases! While 10.2 was what I finally considered a 1.0 release of Mac OS X, Panther is a huge leap in usability.

Expose is so amazing, expect Microsoft to "borrow" it in their next OS release.

Re:Panther (4, Insightful)

hype7 (239530) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162247)

I had the chance to preview Panther on a friend's PowerBook (1Ghz Ti /w SuperDrive) recently. I was very impressed to see the speed improvements Panther brings to "older" machines. Imagine that, and operating system that removes bloat and performs better after subsiquent releases! While 10.2 was what I finally considered a 1.0 release of Mac OS X, Panther is a huge leap in usability.


Expose is so amazing, expect Microsoft to "borrow" it in their next OS release.


Well, they might try. It'll probably be a pale imitation, just like with everything else that Microsoft has copied of Apple's.

Regardless, there's a precedent that Apple has set, that MS hasn't been able to follow (and, IMO, won't ever be able to): that is, with every new OS release, your computer gets faster.

-- james

Upgrade Coupons (1)

Brobock (226116) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162210)

Will we be able to use the upgrade coupon that comes in the box with new systems or will they refuse them, like they have in the past. I believe we are entitled to up to 3 upgrades from the purchase of the system.

Re:Upgrade Coupons (-1)

Seth Finklestein (582901) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162272)

I'm sorry, but 10.3 is simply too revolutionary for you to use an upgrade coupon. However, you may redeem a coupon for $5 off a purchase of $300 or more at the Apple Store (excluding iPods).

Panther / jaguar compared (5, Informative)

MouseR (3264) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162211)

I got my dual G5 on the 7th of september. I have partitioned it and have installed both Jaguar (10.2.7 G5) and Panther 7B74 on it (for those asking, I was at the developer conference, hence my seedings of Panther).

Using Code Warrior to build 730 megs worth of sources (no, really), the complete build cycle (after a total cleanup of objects) took 9 minutes on Panther, and 13 minutes in Jaguar.

And that's with a tool that's not multi-threaded. Kudos Apple.

(Oh, and BTW, this same source code set takes roughly 45 minutes on a dual G4 450!!)

Apple... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162212)

Password: "Does your girlfriend eat apples whole, with cores?"
Reply: "Yes. And she has a pretty ponytail too."

XCode alone looks worth the upgrade (4, Informative)

Talez (468021) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162222)

Seriously... Take a look! [apple.com]

The rendezvous enabled distributed building and predictive compiling look to be winners.

Looks like the Apple 'lies' (marketing) continues (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162228)

"Apple ][ forever" (Said so the Apple ][ sales could keep funding the Mac line)
"The Newton is a very important part of our product line." (Said march 3rd 1998. Newton canceled end of Feb.)
"Any Macintosh sold by Apple this year (1997) will run Rhapsody (now called Mac OS X)" (Tell that to a TAM owner)

Now the 'beige G3's' have recieved the shaft.

Buy from Apple - expect the short brown sticky end. It is the Apple way under Jobs.

Troll??? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162281)

Cretinous moderator.

Valid critisism is not trolling, no matter how much of a mac fan-boy you are!

Re:Looks like the Apple 'lies' (marketing) continu (0, Flamebait)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162353)

Parent may not have found the best way to say it, but s/he makes a valid point.

The lack of a long term upgrade path with Apple means that if you want to remail loyal to the brand you will HAVE TO buy a new Apple.

This is why my 6400/200 was the last new Apple machine I bought.

The Beige G3s were the last Apple machines that I would have considered buying. Since they are no longer supported I guess I won't be buying Apple, I have no interest in Apple's current hardware.

LK

First complaint... (1)

selderrr (523988) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162250)

The ftp client built-in in the finder is still read-only.

Shame on you Apple...

Re:First complaint... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162336)

Not all warez sites allow write access.

No G5 (5, Funny)

dublisk (456374) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162251)

Panther requires a minimum of 128MB of memory and is designed to run on the following Apple products with built-in USB support: iMac,(R) iBook(R), Power Macintosh(R) G3, Power Mac G4, Power Mac G4 Cube.

Thank god I didn't get a G5.

Broken G5 comes in handy after all (0, Offtopic)

oingoboingo (179159) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162261)

After waiting for about 2.5 months, my shiny 1.6GHz G5 system finally turned up...and 6 days later was back in its box, being returned to Apple Australia as it was highly unstable, crashing and freezing constantly. Since I've been quoted '2 to 3 weeks' (which in Apple speak means 4 to 6) as the lead time for a replacement G5 system to be built, I should be able to get Panther included for free as a nice little unintentional bonus from Apple.

Of course, I will have been waiting for so long by that stage that the 1.6GHz G5 will be on the verge of being discontinued...

Re:Broken G5 comes in handy after all (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162301)

the crashing was probably the users fault. plus, thats what you get for buying a Rev A machine, dumbass.

Finally... (1)

TintinX (569362) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162263)

I'm hoping that this release of OSX will perform sufficiently on my Apple Powerbook G4 Titanium 400.
All other releases have proven too sluggish.

Am I being too optimistic?

Damn! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162276)

Does everything have to be more expensive with apple. What's with the ridiculously high price? It even beats certain Monopolistic prices.

Re:Damn! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7162322)

Apple has a monopoly on Macs. For some reason, we don't hear /. crying about that monopoly.

Their practices make Microsoft blush--suppressing affordable compatible machines by reneging on agreements with other manufacturers, C&Ds to skin authors, DMCA hammers for those helping people use their legally purchased DVD authoring software with non-Apple hardware, forced bundling of an operating system (HEY, JUSTICE DEPARTMENT!) with hardware, PLUS $129 point releases . . . they're Microsoft wannabes, just not as good at it.

~~~

Damn! (1)

Strepsil (75641) | more than 10 years ago | (#7162327)

I was hoping this announcement would take a bit longer - I was going to put my old Beige machine up on eBay next week. :)
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