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Making $95,000+ from Junkmail?

CmdrTaco posted more than 15 years ago | from the you-gotta-be-kidding dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 55

frank writes "You can read a well written story about a man who deposited a junkmail advertisment check written for over 95,000$ and actualy had it clear. He has posted his story on the net and if you're looking for something to dream about, this will fill the bill. Why don't these things happen to me? " I don't know if this is legit or a hoax, but it's really cool.

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55 comments

I don't know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049420)

This guy has a few weird stories behind his name,
(i.e. he delivered a baby on a sidewalk),
anyways it may not be true, but it is entertaining.

True (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049421)

It's true, it WAS on TV news for a while. And guys, give him a break, Not everyone knew about it. The net's a big place.

Weiner heads. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049422)

Since when are all the stories 100% nerd news or anything. This is semi-nerd related because we all deal with junk mail and stupid people running stupid systems.
And I find it funny that 7 people actually went out of there way to post comments saying that this story is stupid/lame whatever.
I see we have some real productivity seekers in the crowd today.
Oh, yeah, I read it back in 95, but I'm sure a lot of people didn't.

story is true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049423)

Go to the San Jose Mercury News' search page [mercurycenter.com] and search for "Man 1, Bank 0" (with the quotes). Make sure you constrain the search to 1995; it defaults to 1998.

Smile and go on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049424)

For those who cavail that this is not timely; it's the Weekend, lighten up.

Myself, I think $95k could finance a new identity quite well. I've never met a bank that wasn't toally dedicated to squeezing every last cent out of their customers, legal or not. Why should we as customers behave any differently?

Looks like... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049425)

The same story as seen on www.bored.com. Oh well, it's still pretty funny, all things considered.

95,000 out of junk mail is nothing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049426)

there is this other guy,
who made about $70,000,000,000 from junk software
yeah, way cool?

er... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049427)

I got the fourth comment up, there, and I am sorry if I seem somewhat annoying, it was not on purpose. I read this last year maybe and read some more of this guy's stories, I guess now I know that this one is true. By the way this can be under "Stuff that matters." because people need to read stories that entertain them.

More M$ FUD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049428)


Why don't you keep your FUD to yourself you Microsoft-lover! Take your $95,000 and shut up!

Linux r00lz!

I don't believe it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049429)

The obvious explanation: This guy is trying to SELL HIS FUCKING BOOK and is using this lame story to do it. He's a con man, the same type of con man as the one that supposedly sent him that check.

suckers.

haha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049430)

This is a fantastic story, recycled or not!

Rude people (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049431)

Ahem. This anonymous coward is on a Linux box,
hacks kernel code, writes userspace tools that
you might be using, hates AOL, barely knows what
WebTV is, etc.

Think for half a moment before you post some
dumb-ass insulting comment!

Shut the hell up, Ernst! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049432)

What's this anti-Americanism? Piss off, pal. We prolly own your wimp ass country

Rude people (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049433)

People will note that the first two anonymous cowards (at this time) proved not only the title of this thread but also reinforced it with juvnile comments. Now to the original poster, not everyone who uses AOL or WebTV (linux users too) is behaving in such a manner and to imply otherwise makes you look narrow-minded.

BR who doesn't need an account.

CmdrTaco Vs. Scoop The Pussy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049434)

You've gotta admit though, with all the flames against Slashdot, at least Rob puts up with it, unlike the whiney pussy named Scoop, who shuts down and cries at the mere mention of any negative input. Food for thought

Rude people (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049435)

you are lame

where is the JonKatz article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049436)

when i was reading this , i thought where was JOnKatz's article and inciteful comments about this . about when he was working for wired etc... and he did the same thing .

diese Idioten sind alle blank (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049437)

wenn eine Eule herauf Ihren Esel kriecht, sind Sie ein Aal bestenfalls.

zwischen der Eule und dem Aal gibt es einen Mutterfucker in jedem Kasten. hallo, Lampe-Esser! Tänzer mit Schweinen!

lassen Sie ihn allein, er ist ein gerades ein moron. ich bin unterschiedlich. ich bin gefährlich, weil ich und kriminell geisteskrank gebohrt werde.

yaah! yaah! yaah! yaah! yaah! yaah! yaah! yaah!

60 Minutes(1/3/99) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049438)

"Breaking Windows" is the story featuring mainly Scott McNealy and Microsoft.

It's a hoax... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049439)

My bullshit detector went on red alert when I started to read this drivel. Oh pleeze.

Anyway, I wonder if he payed the taxes on his $95K. As soon as you move that kind of change around, the IRS is notified. Anything about $10K I believe.

Give it away or not, it's still income.

it's legit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049440)

the guy in question parleyed this unique opportunity into a career in public/motivational speaking. he spoke at U of Michigan recently, which is how I know. I just have to admire the guy, b/c rather than running with the money, he turned it into a career pushing manytimes that per year. too cool.

fuck la vostra base, jethro! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049441)

siete un asshole. il vostro cervello è fatto delle noci quello che shit dal vostro asino. non so hanno ottenuto là. tutto che sappia è che finalmente ritornano [altavista.com] .

This AnCow sucks even more than Babelfish... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049442)

Not only this AC is posting his garbage, he feels so guilty about it, he sends it through Babelfish to translate it to German...
Ill try to translate it back to English anyway (its kinda hard, that first sentence is completely fscked up):
"Subj: Your penis indeed is a small one
"If all people in Kansas got imprisoned and stood in jail forever, world would be a lovely place full of joy, sunshine and happy flowers.

"anyhow, slashdot is nothing more than a humongeous advertisment for ad hoc brain surgery.

I dont know about Kansas people (not too many of them here in Munich), does he have a point?

Sleezebag (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049443)

Please. The guy is skum. The junkmailer didn't have to pay anything, he just ripped off his own bank. I love this quote:

Deep down inside I felt like I hadn't done anything wrong. If people judged me differently, it would be because they're different people with different values.

A few years ago, there was an episode of Computer Cronicles about Digital Research. Somebody says almost the same thing about Bill Gates. Blah. Either you are capable of honesty or you aren't.

...another day older and deeper in debt. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049444)

ha ha ha.

95,000 out of junk mail is nothing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049445)

Umm, assuming your story is true, (doubtful) you said 70 BILLION dollars. That'd make him richer than Bill Gates. As much as I'd like that to be true, it most likely isn't.

Didn't he commit bank fraud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049446)

There has to be more to that Wichita story. People with single counterfeit bills do not get five years in prison for counterfeiting, especially if there's reasonable doubt that the bill originated with him. (How? Simple; check the bill for fingerprints. If he was handed the bill in change, there should be fingerprints from the clerk on the bill.)

As for the check, we have well-defined rules for a reason... and those rules were negotiated by all interested parties when the laws were drafted. The sender is expected to know whether the check was really negotiable. The bank is expected to know how to recognize negotiable instruments. They can't complain when a customer also knows the law.

It's those laws, after all, that allow me to print my own checks at home... although I've encountered a few clerks who are absolutely convinced that this is somehow illegal or at least immoral. :-)

I get these all the time! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049447)

I always get checks in the mail for $100,000 and
other high amounts! They are always real,
depositable checks! But I never deposit them,
because they are attached to letters like this:

"You're pre-approved for a loan of $100,000 at
20% annual interest and if you ever miss a
payment, your entire balance is due immediately!
Just cash the check to indicate that you accept
this offer!"

So, of course, I never cash them.

I get these all the time! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049448)

Bundle these checks together and leave them on top of open garbage cans in places where ALOT of people travel (subways/bus stations/etc). With luck you will find someone who will pick up a check and cash it.

Now as these are REAL checks they will be cashed and the funds will be draw from the lender's account. Because you threw the checks away WITHOUT signing them you are not responsible for them.

You 1, Junk mail 0

YAAC (Yet Another AC)

Only one thing.. -- More FUD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049449)


Don't attack me you Micro$oftie! I notice you are using IE 4.0. Figures.

More FUD. Go back to WindblowZ!

2 week turnaround for jail time ?? yeah, whatever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049450)

oh PLEASE -- the chances of a case even getting to the grand jury in a week are pretty small -- unless the dude plead guilty for some stupid reason there is no way he would be in jail by now

Oh no, not spam on /. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049451)

BTW. Would it be wrong to write a little perl
script to bomb /. news articles with spam
messages? I don't mean wrong in the sense of
legal or illegal. Clearly it's a legitimate
use of computing resource outside the State
of Washington (and soon, California). And
since it's not e-mail, it likely evades most
of the gov't restrictions on spam.

No, I don't doubt that for the moment, it's legal.
Instead, I wonder whether it would be wrong to
write such a script. On the one hand, it's likely
an inconvenienec to /. readers. On the other
hand, it's merely pay back for CmdTaco's decision
to SPAM THE READERS with that bullshit news
article.

What would EFF say? What would Wall do in a
situation like this? Decisions, decisions. . . .

ugh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049452)

very sad indeed.

Try depositing $95K in bogus bills... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2049453)

>People with single counterfeit bills do not get five years in prison for counterfeiting

You're probably right. But try to deposit $95,000 in bogus currency and you *will* be hauled away in irons, kicking and screaming all the way to Levinworth, wheather you claim to have known they were fake or not or that you tried it "just as a joke, knowing that the bank would never accept it". You'd be stupid to try. Why treat a check for $95,000 any differently? Fraud is fraud.

Get Over It (1)

Zack (44) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049454)

Would you folks please stop bitching about the site? If you don't like it, don't read it. We don't need your worthless comments. If you don't have anything nice to say....

I for one had not seen this before, and thought it was pretty funny. Mabye my Publishers Clearing House one for $31 Million will go through... somehow I doubt it though.

Didn't he commit bank fraud? (1)

sar (398) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049455)

I see it that way...
Approx. 2 weeks ago a man recieved a $20 bill from a store as change, and thought it looked fake. It wasnt one of the new bills, just had things that looked fake about it. He took it to the bank to try to get it changed for smaller bills, hoping the bank would either tell him it was fake or not.
Since he didn't ASK the bank if it was fake, they assumed he knew it was, and now he is in jail for 5 years for distributing counterfeit money. True story, happened in Kansas.

Rude people (0)

gavinhall (33) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049456)

Posted by apolloborn:

Is it just me, or are people becoming more and more rude online? I have worked in the service industry, and the reason I got out was that it seems like Americans have become nasty, obnoxious, overexpectant, and demanding. I thought at least a community like Slashdot would be a bit different. The whole Freshmeat revision debacle really ticked me off the other day, and the tone of these comments really did it.

As for this story, _I_ didn't hear about it and thought it was pretty funny.

I think all the anonymous cowards from AOL and webtv should think before they type. And as for all the avid Linux fans out there, you should all REALLY know better. Net cooperation is what helped create the Open Source movement and make Linux a kick-ass OS. Just do us all a favor. Think for half a moment before you post some dumb-ass insulting comment to a website that's created for YOUR benefit at NO charge by really hard working people who don't get a dime out of it.

Otherwise, maybe the likes of slashdot and freshmeat should just all shut down and let's see who you can all bitch and moan to.

1995 copyright notice (1)

DaBuzz (878) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049457)

I would have thought that the 1995 copyright notice at the bottom of the page would have been a tip off that this isn't "news". However, it is true.
-
DaBuzz.net [dabuzz.net]

News? (1)

Zachary Kessin (1372) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049458)

Ok its old, Big deal, I'd not seen it before. I thougth it was interesting. Although he would have been smart to call a lawyer the molment the bank guy started threatening him, and let the lawyer do all interacting with the bank.

But maybe not as much fun. And I would have kept the cash, I could use $95,000 (Thats about £57,000) That would *NOT* Suck.
--Zachary Kessin

www.bored.com (1)

schematic (2337) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049459)

I saw this on www.bored.com about 2 years ago, it's still a good story

Schematic

---
otter?

Fun for a lazy afternoon. (1)

dattaway (3088) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049460)

Those stories made my day. Reminds me when I was a teenager and got in trouble enough that the too forgiving police did not think I was going to make it in life. I have great memories that I may never do again. Its nice to see stuff like this from others as it is funny.

Sleezebag (1)

Prothonotar (3324) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049461)

Nothing like a 90-second conviction. Did you see the link at the bottom of the pages? There are 4 parts. Might I suggest you read them all?
--
Aaron Gaudio
"The fool finds ignorance all around him.

Didn't he commit bank fraud? (1)

hal9k (7650) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049462)

He never endorsed the check, and the check was valid. So technically, he didn't.

Don't like what's posted? (1)

hal9k (7650) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049463)

Start your own page. I found this entertaining; even though I had heard about it, I hadn't heard the full story. If you think slashdot stories are lame, why do you keep looking at them?

morons...

Oh no, not spam on /. (1)

matguy (7927) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049464)

I was always happy to read the extensive list of responses to /. articles, maybee until now. It would really suck if /. turned into a spam target. It just goes to show if something is great and lots of people use it and get something from it, people will abuse it and bring it down. Many great loads of respect for rob and friends for creating a great place to find new info and share thoughts in a semi unrestricted arena. Let's hope the spammers don't bring this down any. Down with SPAM!

matguy
Net. Admin.

It's a hoax... (1)

jazman (9111) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049465)

So he gave it back. Hmmm. I think this qualifies to be put into the same box as "I was kidnapped by aliens and they made me pregnant and I had the alien's kids"; reporter: "so where's the baby"; abductee: "oh they came back and took the kid away". It might be true. It's an amusing story. But why would ANYONE not keep $95k? I don't know a single wunch of bankers that's actually short of cash.

Proverb: if you want to be believed, KEEP THE EVIDENCE!!

Rude people (1)

scrytch (9198) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049466)

> I thought at least a community like Slashdot would be a bit different

*snicker*
You're new to slashdot, arentcha?

I don't believe it. (1)

orabidoo (9806) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049467)

it is a true story, and a good one too, but this guy does sound like some (gentle) kind of con-man. after all, he's in the business of selling such worthless junk as "motivation" and "inspirational", which are barely half a step above get-rich-quick schemes.

I think I'd have kept the money too, and had a lawyer handle the whole thing instead of doing it myself. Then again, he only ended up in the situation of having a legal claim to the money through a set of coincidences and luck, so that would probably have fucked it up.

given the laws that he quotes, I'm surprised that it was *his* bank that ended up losing the money (for as long as he kept it); I'd have expected the original junkmailer to get charged, which would have been just perfect.

True (1)

Syberghost (10557) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049468)

It's true, it WAS on TV news for a while.

Just because it makes it on the news doesn't mean it's true. Newspeople are people just like you and me, but probably not as smart.

BTW, a friend of mine concocts hoaxes purporting to be insider information on Star Trek projects. More than one has made it into various news outlets. We're especially proud of one project that made it into Australian newspapers as "true" information.

Advertising E-Mail is illegal (1)

yabHuj (10782) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049469)

...at least in Germany - the fine is set to 500.000 DM = 255.000 Euro = about US $280.000

For juristic details see http://www.khemorex-klinzhai.de/werbun g.html [khemorex-klinzhai.de] (will be updated further in the next days).

It's a hoax... (1)

TrentC (11023) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049470)

Proverb: if you want to be believed, KEEP THE EVIDENCE!!

Did you actually read the article?

At this point, knowing that I wasn't out to keep the money, I called up the bank's senior legal counsel and told him I wanted to give the money back. "I'm the world's easy guy to get the money back from - all you have to do is write me an official letter from the bank that addresses this fiasco from a fair point of view. I invited him to meet with me, to draft such a letter and come to a resolve, and we did."

and

"After a month of negotiations, I got my letter and was ready to return the money."

If you think the guy is a liar, just go find him and ask if you can see the letter.

Jay (=

95 grand and whaddya get... (1)

steggy (13489) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049471)

Another BS story that is stupider yet!

As others have noted, this story is quite old (I first read it in early 1996) and seems to be a transparent attempt on the author's part to promote his book and speaking business. (I've never been able to understand why people think vibrating air molecules are worth money, but then, I'm not a professional bullshitter.) Once a shill, always a shill. Maybe Combs or whatever his name is can get a job huckstering for Ed McMahon.

Should/should not have been posted comments (0)

fred (80655) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049472)

I'm sure we're all quite tired of the childish pointless bitching from people who don't want to risk reading something more than once, and I, in my infinite wisdom, have concoted a solution:

Rename the site. It should be Slashdot: News for Nerds. Stuff the DOESN'T matter. I think that would solve a lot of problems and put things in perspective. What do you say, Rob?

Who cares? (1)

Mordon (83432) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049473)

Who cares whether it's true or not?
It's a good story, and a well-worth
read, IMHO...

On the question if it belongs here,
Slashdot belongs to Rob, and he
decides what this site should be,
and what it should not.

If you don't like that, leave.

Didn't he commit bank fraud? (1)

Vidar Hokstad (87953) | more than 15 years ago | (#2049474)

The difference is that the bank isn't supposed to accept checks that aren't endorsed. So to prove that he committed bank fraud, the bank would have to show that he either forgot, or believed that the bank would ignore or overlook the missing endorsement.

Also, the check was technically valid, since, as the author of the article pointed out, printing "not negotiable" on a check, doesn't invalidate it, as it does for other negotiable instruments.

So the reason the bank demanded the money back wasn't that the check was invalid, but that the check had been returned by the issuer and the issuers bank. p The bank might be able to sway a court in the direction of bank fraud if they were able to show that he both was aware that the check was intended just as a sample of checks he could receive from others, and not as a real check, even though it looked completely valid - even to the point that the bank itself let it slip - and expected the bank to accept an unendorsed check.

In other words, they would have to demonstrate that their banking services are unprofessional, and insecure, and in addition the defense would ridicule them about slipping the midnight deadline for demanding a return... So even if they could get a court to agree, it would cost them big in public relations.

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