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Mandrake Linux 9.2 Hits the Street

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the not-debian-but-pretty-good-anyway dept.

Mandriva 410

joestar writes "Just announced at Mandrake's website, Mandrake 9.2 (FiveStar) has just been released. Mandrake Club members get full access to 9.2 ISOs (through BitTorrent), as well as... all 9.2 contributors and translators. But the best news, in addition to all (impressive) 9.2 features is that everybody can access the traditional binary & sources tree! Public release of Mandrake 9.2 ISOs will happen at the same time as Mandrake 9.2 Pack availability in retail. It makes sense."

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Of all possible pr0st33z on the planet... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210562)

I just happened to get the first.

I hate Linux zealots and dirty gnu hippies.

I hate all of you too.

Fuck you all.

Love Always,
News For Turds

That's Nice. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210573)

Finally, one of the so-called advanced linux distributions is finally catching up to Solaris, 7 years ago.

Re:That's Nice. (0)

Agent Smart (204871) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210592)

Et tu, RedHat?

all i want to know (0, Offtopic)

setzman (541053) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210577)

when can i download it on kazaa

Re:all i want to know (1)

The One KEA (707661) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210594)

These days, probably pretty damn fast. Check your search function.

Re:all i want to know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210596)

Gimme a Minute....

Re:all i want to know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210844)

Share the .torrent file.

Re:all i want to know (1)

Urkki (668283) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210994)

Wait. You can't use Kazaa for this! It's legal to distribute it almost any way you want, so any P2P software is clearly wrong way here.

Suse Linux 9 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210579)

Suse Linux 9 hit the streets yesterday

Re:Suse Linux 9 (1)

setzman (541053) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210610)

Suse Linux 9 hit the streets yesterday

Don't see a press release on the Suse site. Where did you see this at?

Re:Suse Linux 9 (1)

ahillen (45680) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210681)

Suse Linux 9 hit the streets yesterday

No. It's 15th Oct. in Germany and 24th elsewhere (or at least in the US, according to suse.com)

You can't (0, Redundant)

r_arr (613036) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210584)

Because you won't get sued for d/l it.

Cheers: to Mandrake for yet another great release. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210597)

Jeers: to the manufacturer of my broken television set.

The street? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210604)

Does it really hit "the street"?

How about, "is available for download".

Re:The street? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210767)

Does it really hit "the street"?

Not the way your mom does when she needs crack money.

What are you, fucking stupid?

Download Edition (1)

LunarOne (91127) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210608)

Is this the one that serves up ads during installation? (As long as the ads end after the install, I guess it's okay).

Re:Download Edition (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210833)

Is this the one that serves up ads during installation? (As long as the ads end after the install, I guess it's okay).

Who cares what it displays during installation? Once it starts installing the RPMs I just go grab a drink or something and come back 20 minutes later. Do you actually sit in front of the install watching it? I've always found it's like watching paint dry. "Oooh, it's almost done... oh damnit, they just added on 15 more minutes... wait.. it's down to 15 minutes left.. what now it's up to 20. God damnit."

Ads in Mandrake 9.2 (2, Interesting)

Kadagan AU (638260) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210952)

They addressed this already [mandrakelinux.com] .
It seems kind of slow due to slashdotting.

On a side note, this time the slashdot sensationalism really disapointed me. I've been eagerly checking Mandrake's site for a while now, I've got a computer that's waiting to have 9.2 installed on it. I'm waiting for the free download, then as soon as I'm sure I like it, I'll run out to buy a copy. Does anyone know if Best Buy will carry this one? I saw them with an older version years back.

Full Text... (4, Informative)

Kadagan AU (638260) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210989)

Ok, Mandrake's site is running really slow, and I still have the window opened, so here's the text of their press statement:

A controversy has erupted today in the Linux community about the upcoming Mandrake Linux 9.2 and advertizing. Although the overall reaction from the community is mostly positive, a few people don't seem to be happy about having advertizing in Mandrake 9.2. We'd like to explain briefly why we have done this and why you shouldn't worry.

0) There won't be any ad in the screensavers in Mandrake 9.2

There will be one paid-ad in the installation procedure, and a few paid-links in bookmarks.

1) Ads are selected and won't be intrusive.

Our advertizing plan is only offered to MandrakeSoft partners - we select only ads that make sense as complementary Linux solutions. Additionally, ads won't be intrusive (no pop-up windows) and can be removed easily.

2) There have been ads in Mandrake Linux for years.

Maybe you didn't notice it, but in the installation procedure and in browser's bookmarks, there have been many links to Mandrake products, the GNU project, many Open Source projects and so on. In Mandrake 9.1 there was the first "commercial" link to a technical book content provider. Nobody was annoyed, we didn't get any feedback about that.

3) Free Software and business model.

As we are firmly committed to Open Source/Free Software, we want to keep on exploring business models that are compatible with this spirit.

Thanks..but nobody asked (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210609)

from the not-debian-but-pretty-good-anyway dept.

Michael, is it possible that you stop being a jackass once in a while?

We don't care that you love debian, what does it have to do with Mandrake?

Put that in your journal, stop trolling offtopic stuff in your stories.

Shortly after it makes it to the front lines (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210611)

It will surrender!

Face it, we bailed France's Ass out during WWII, after we sat back on our heels and siphoned every last dime out of both sides of the war by selling them arms.

You owe us big time France!!!

Excellent. (1)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210618)


I was wondering what had become of Mandrake.

Now, if only Gentoo woudl release a version that would boot an IBM RS/6000 7025 F50 from a CD, I'd be happy.

Re:Excellent. (1)

Octorian (14086) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210965)

Hey, on a machine like that you should be running AIX, not Linux. Then again, if you insist on only wanting to run Linux on that fine RS/6000, I'll gladly take it off your hands and load a proper OS for the machine.

Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210970)

KDE is up to 3.1.4 but Mandrake 9.2 includes KDE 3.1.3. Why haven't they bothered including the latest release of KDE, and the other software they include?

The club? (1)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210619)


I thought Mandrake Club had folded a while back, /. had a story on it I thought. (quick search didn't turn it up) Am I imagining that?

Re:The club? (2, Informative)

Archie Steel (539670) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210635)

Yeah, you are. The club is alive and well. Which means I'll be firin' up the old Bittorrent client as soon as I get home tonight!

i586 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210620)

why don't Mandrake get off the i586 build and just fork it in to two, one optimized for i386 and one for i686...

this i586 crap runs like poopoo on my i686 PC...

Re:i586 (3, Informative)

Gunfighter (1944) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210765)

If you want optimized, install gentoo [gentoo.org] instead. Contrary to popular belief, you don't actually have to compile everything. If you download the CDs for your architecture, you'll find that the included binary packages are compiled for your architecture alerady.

Re:i586 (1)

sewagemaster (466124) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210978)


i'm using debian... is there anything you would suggest that would make me want to switch to gentoo, other than an optimized/lean system?

torrents? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210621)

Just like last time, when RedHat opened up its new release to paying customers first for download, I would like to get this one too in advance. Slashdot's mentality shall work again.

Please post working torrents for these ISOs.

Streets? (2, Insightful)

bluegreenone (526698) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210623)

If by "streets", you mean the gilded hard drive pathways of MandrakeClub's paying members, then yes, Mandrake 9.2 has hit the streets. For the majority of the public you're talking a release in 1-2 weeks.

Re:Streets? (1)

joestar (225875) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210687)

> For the majority of the public you're talking a
> release in 1-2 weeks.

As mentionned in the post, the entire tree, including binary and sources is available publicly on a number of mirrors... (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3)

eh? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210624)

Why anyone would use anything besides Debian is beyond me. It's like black penis --- once you try apt, you can never go back!

When is the new Redhat coming out? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210627)

for desktop. Thanks. Anyone?

5...4...3...2..Done (0)

Znonymous Coward (615009) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210728)

Nov 3rd is the Fedora release date.

See the schedule [redhat.com] .

Hello (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210638)

I am a Gentoo Linux user. Can someone please tell me where the 'any' key is?

Re:Hello (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210756)

emerge any-key

Question for current Mandrake users (3, Interesting)

kikta (200092) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210640)

So I was a Mandrake user for the both the 7.x and 8.x series. I liked it a lot, but I also had quite a few crashes (usually KDE apps). I know lots of other people have had the same gripe about Mandrake in the past, i.e. that it was very nice, but pretty unstable.

Has Mandrake's stability improved in the 9.x series? I'd especially like to hear from folks who were testing the Cooker versions that became 9.2. Thanks.

Re:Question for current Mandrake users (2, Informative)

dan dan the dna man (461768) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210713)

Having used 9.X for some time I think not. I liked Mandrake a lot, but it's instability was frustrating after RedHat. I eventually went back to RedHat (to prepare for the RHCE not for any real reason). I'll give Mandrake 9.2 a whirl, it's a nice system - but I too hope that 9.2 has ironed out a few of the X glitches (gdm was my bugbear).

Re:Question for current Mandrake users (1)

nocomment (239368) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210714)

I never had any problems with stability, of course, I use gnome. My only gripe is because of the new club member deal, I have to try and do an ftp install for the first time ever ;-).

RC2 is more stable than 9.1, in my experience (1)

Idou (572394) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210718)

It also got rid of a strange bug that Mozilla on 9.1 had on rendering some Japanese pages (maybe UTF related?).

It seems much faster and stable, overall. Also, OpenOffice 1.1 on totally ROCKS! (much faster! Handles Japanese perfectly!).9.2

I would hang out and tell you more, but I am in the process of installing bittorrent's gui so that I can install 9.2 from the website.

Later!

Re:Question for current Mandrake users (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210735)

I'm Cooker user, and Its a lot more stable.

Re:Question for current Mandrake users (2, Funny)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210754)

Linux?? Unstable???

Oh fuck! The world is ending, Slashdotters! ;-)

never one crash (1)

deathcow (455995) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210785)

Must be those big glitzy desktops? We build two flavors of Mandrake 9.1 boxes where I work --

Flavor #1 (monitoring station) has 8 monitors running IceWM, all 8 monitors peppered with X apps.

Flavor #2 (server) are rack mounted and only accessed via VNC servers. These boxes are LAMP setups and run Perl apps continuously.

Our uptimes reach 100 days easily, and then we have to reboot for power cord moves, rack changes, stupid stuff like that. We've never had to reboot a Mandrake 9.1 box in either of these configurations due to something wigging out.

Sounds like its dry-rot in your glitz factor.

Re:Question for current Mandrake users (1)

joestar (225875) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210805)

> Has Mandrake's stability improved in the 9.x series?

I never had problems with Mandrake's stability. At least since version 8.2.

Re:Question for current Mandrake users (1)

idamaybrown (584881) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210964)

Is the next version Mandrake NT?

9.1 was a huge leap in usability (1)

Azureflare (645778) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210809)

I never used 7.x and 8.x, so I can't comment on that, but I Started with 9.0. 9.0 was usable, but barely; the MCC was crufty and a lot of it was generally crufty. When I used 9.1, that all changed; many of the wizards actually WORKED, and I was able to actually use everything for long periods of time without crashes. I'm using 9.2RC2 ATM, 9.2 final is downloading via bittorrent, and I have to say Mandrake has reached a level of refinement with 9.2. I upgraded from 9.1->9.2RC2, so I Don't know how the install process sets up a default install, but I will be trying it out on a new HD. I have been very happy with Mandrake since 9.1, and the club membership has been worth it (I love the test packages =)). However, I'm sure other distros will be fine for most people. Mandrake is nice because it is very usable now. Also, Gnome 2.4 is sooo much better than gnome 2.2, which helps us gnome users out quite a bit.

Re:Question for current Mandrake users (1)

mamer-retrogamer (556651) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210814)

I've been using Mandrake 9.1 as my primary environment for several months and have only had Konqueror seqfault on me a few times. Both times when I ran a ./configure script inside Konsole and had that directory opened in Konqueror. No other major problems to report.

Mandrake (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210643)

Ripper: "Mandrake, have you ever seen a Commie use Windows?"

Mandrake: "No, Jack. I can't say that I have."

Ripper: "Linux. That's what they use, isn't it? Never Windows?"

Mandrake: "Well, I believe that's what they use, Jack. Yes."

Ripper: "On no account will a Commie use Windows? And not without good reason?"

Mandrake: "I don't quite see what you're getting at, Jack."

Ripper: "Windows. That's what I'm getting at. Windows, Mandrake. Windows is the source of our economy. Seven-tenths of the earth's economy depends on Windows. Why, do you realize that 95% of all computer users own or use Windows?"

Mandrake: "Odd."

Ripper: "And as human beings, you and I need fresh, regular Windows updates to replenish our precious Intel-based applications."

Mandrake: "Yes."

Ripper: "Are you beginning to understand?"

Mandrake: "Yes."

Ripper: "Mandrake. Mandrake, have you ever wondered why I use only Windows NT, or Windows XP, and only pure closed-source software?"

Mandrake: "Well, it did occur to me, Jack, yes."

Ripper: "Have you ever heard of a thing called the GPL, the GPL license?"

Mandrake: "Yes, I have heard of that, Jack, yes."

Ripper: "Well, do you know what it is?"

Mandrake: "No."

Ripper: "Do you realize that the GPL is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Commie plot we have ever had to face?"

Re:Mandrake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210705)

1 .45 automatic.
2 boxes of ammunition.
4 days' concentrated emergency rations.
1 drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills.
1 miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible.
100 dollars in rubles.
100 dollars in gold.
9 packs of chewing gum.
1 issue of prophylactics.
3 lipsticks.
3 pairs of nylon stockings.

A fellow can have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff...

Re:Mandrake (1)

Razor Blades are Not (636247) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210761)

1 Full tank of gas
It's dark outside and we're wearing sunglasses.

Hit it!

Re:Mandrake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210890)

you forgot the half pack of cigarettes

Re:Commie bullshit (1)

xutopia (469129) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210723)

I guess now I want to be a commie too. Your rational is that someone should be allowed to profit from forcing me to use something. Your economy sucks shit anyways.

You have the most deficit in the history of the known universe and that M$ money is not going to fix that. Soon you'll not be able to afford buying Windows and you'll need yet another loan to afford it, or get with Linux.

Re:Re:Commie bullshit (1)

mavenguy (126559) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210905)

I guess your sarcasm sensor is malfunctioning.

POE OPE (1)

freeze128 (544774) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210821)

You'll have to answer to the coca-cola bottling company for that!

Re:Mandrake (1)

The Ape With No Name (213531) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210843)

Eh, Marx and Engels used ink, if you use ink, or own anything with ink in it, you are potentially a commie too. Scribblers of the world, unite!

Why I refuse to use Mandrake now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210649)

Just recently, Mandrake added spyware and adware to their releases, and I refuse to use such software that invades my privacy. Whether it's for Windows or for Linux, spyware is wrong. It's time us privacy supporters take a stand and boycott Mandrake and any other distro that decides to follow suit and add spyware and adware.

Re:Why I refuse to use Mandrake now (0)

Agent Smart (204871) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210801)

Damn! There goes my patent on bullshit!

download rate (5, Informative)

bluegreenone (526698) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210653)

FYI I'm getting an average of about 20KB/sec with bittorrent. Certainly not lighting fast. Peak has been about 140KB/sec, low around 5KB/sec. Estimated total time about 17 hours.

Re:download rate (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210758)

Want to post a copy of the .torrent? I have a fast pipe (T3/DS3) at my disposal. The more people that are connected, the faster things'll move.

"Transparent" proxies (4, Interesting)

javilon (99157) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210665)

Some of the members of Mandrake Club can't get the ISOs because they are behind "transparent" proxies set up by their ISPs. The reason is that MandrakeSoft is using the user's IP to allow the bittorrent download, but for people behind this proxies MandrakeSoft sees the proxie's address instead of the user's address and doesn't authorize the use of the bittorrent tracker.

This is happening to anyone using Spain's Telefonica ADSL. This covers almost everyone in Spain.

Re:"Transparent" proxies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210798)

I'm in this same boat, and I'm pissed. I paid a lot of money for my MandrakeClub subscription, and I can't get at the ISOs. Can someone post a copy of the .torrent so I can grab it and help the cause?

HOLY SHIT! MY BALLS ARE AS HAIRY AS A SHEEPDOG! (-1)

Subject Line Troll (581198) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210829)

YOU'RE MY HERO, SUBJECT LINE TROLL! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210967)

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Re:"Transparent" proxies (1, Informative)

Thing 1 (178996) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210868)

Another thing about BitTorrent: if you're using a DSL Router/firewall, which gives DHCP addresses to your machines of the form "192.168.x.x" then your IP address is internal-only; the IP address that machines on the internet think you're coming from is actually the router's IP address.

So in order to get BitTorrent working at decent speeds, you need to forward a few ports (which means you can only have BitTorrent at decent speeds on one of your machines -- someone please correct me if there's a better way to do it).

On my router, a Linksys BEFRS41, it's on the "Forwarding" tab, and I have just one rule set: ports 6881 through 6889 are forwarded to my main machine, both UDP and TCP.

That one little change brought my BT speeds from an average of 10-20 kBps to 60-80 kBps (the most this DSL line can handle; at another location I had cable and routinely got 200 kBps).

Hope this helps some of you out there!

As a proud Mandrake Cooker user. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210669)

I can tell you that Mandrake 9.2 is really cool! The cooker is not moving at the moment so the cooker is basicly 9.2 sans polish.

The most notable features in this release are

Gnome 2.4
OpenOffice 1.1 (and its FAST WITH DECENT FONTS)!
Kernel 2.4.22
KDE is still at 3.1, so if youre a KDE user there isn't much reason to upgrade from 9.1.

Its really fast, a lot easier to use, and most of the software is upto date. If you were going to give Linux to your grandma, this is the one!

if you like it then *buy* or at least *contribute* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210708)


show your apreciation for the team and buy it or contribute code/time and lets make this an even better world class operating system.

(if you dont agree with the GPL then fuck off and dont use it (are you listening Cisco/Linksys))

Somewhat offtopic, but useful? (1)

linux_warp (187395) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210717)

This isn't exactly mandrake related, but Fedora test3 was also released. The torrent link is here [duke.edu]

Should have OO 1.1, kernel 2.4.22, gnome 2.4 and some other fun stuff

Re:Somewhat offtopic, but useful? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210920)

Hey, thanks for spamming the story with an OT torrent! Let's hope lots of people don't read your comment and accidentally download your crap and install it!

Step 1: Post OT link on /.
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit!

Re:Somewhat offtopic, but useful? (1)

Jonah Hex (651948) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210922)

From the same site, the torrent for sources [duke.edu]

Jonah Hex

DVD Playback? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210727)

The release page says that the Discovery Pack provides DVD playback! How can they do this without distributing something (illegaly) equivalent to DeCSS? Does it have a closed-source and commercial DVD player software?

Re:DVD Playback? (2, Funny)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210827)

CSS is an optional encryption on DVDs, if a DVD isnt encrypted, you can play it back.

This excludes virtually every hollywood release, of course. But arent we boycotting them anyways, to make them bow to the mighty spending power of the unemployed IT worker?

Upgrade (1)

wazzzup (172351) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210736)

So I just days ago, got my dad off of Windows and onto Linux by installing Mandrake 9.1 He got tired of the virii and security updates from Microsoft, the ad-aware spyware removal updates and the Norton AntiVirus updates when all he does is use the net to retrieve email.

Is there a simple way to upgrade or do I have to download the ISO's and reinstall (probably won't if that's the case)? I use OS X at home so I'm not sure how to upgrade a Linux box.

Re:Upgrade (1)

happyfrogcow (708359) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210820)

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

One of the beauties of linux is that you aren't force fed an update patch when you don't want one. If everything is working, you might just want to check for critical updates of programs you are runnning, and be sure to disable services you are not running.

Re:Upgrade (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210849)

Download the ISOs. There will be an upgrade option when you boot off the CD ... its pretty straight forward and simple. You dont have to re-install. It will upgrade your current installation.

Re:Upgrade (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210876)

What features does 9.2 have that 9.1 doesn't that he needs? It's okay, go ahead and ask him. Let us know what he says.

Re:Upgrade (1)

kcb93x (562075) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210908)

Run the next set of software (9.2 in this case) and when it asks if you want to do a fresh install or an upgrade, choose an upgrade.

Re:Upgrade (1)

waffle zero (322430) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210936)

You have to update the package repository so that it points to new 9.2 sources and then run

urpmi --auto-select --force
in a terminal as root. Wait a couple days for Easy Urpmi [zarb.org] to get a list compiled for 9.2.

Spyware? (0, Troll)

devphaeton (695736) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210738)

Somehow i remember reading something about spyware in the last release of mandrake. Too bad i can't find the links now.

Sorry folks. I won't touch you with a 10m pole now.

Re:Spyware? (4, Insightful)

djh101010 (656795) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210784)

You make technology decisions based on vague rememberings of something that you can't find evidence of?

Maybe you're thinking of the ads displayed during the install process rather than spyware? That's a pretty hefty accusation to be tossing around, even in a vaguely-worded statement such as yours.

Re:Spyware? (1)

devphaeton (695736) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210851)

You make technology decisions based on vague rememberings of something that you can't find evidence of?

Actually, i stopped using Mandrake some years ago due to its performance and the way it is laid out. I'm just not a RH or Mandrake person. Sorry.

But the idea of being served by ads in *any* part of the process turns me cold on ever looking at them again when i have so many other options, some of which serve my purposes quite well.

Re:Spyware? (0)

The Old Burke (679901) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210836)

You are trolling right?

That something was an article here on slashdot about Mandrake starting to include advertising in the instalation. That's far from spyware.

You will probably see something like "We at Comapany X have this product thats superior comapared to Company Y's product etc" during the instalation.
Nothing to worry about and only slightly annoying.

cool (1)

matchboy (519044) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210751)

What would Lady Death Maggot [houseofteriyaki.com] do though? She uses Mandrake

Features? (1)

FreeLinux (555387) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210753)

One of the features that they cite is "File names can now be intuitively renamed", referring to clicking on the name slowly, ala Windows. Was right click -> Rename not intuitive enough?

warez releases? (0)

geighaus (670864) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210776)

Heh, with such a practice, it is no wonder that you might see something along these lines: Mandrake_Linux_9.2_PRE-RELEASE-Razor1911 ;)

Network install for the cheap (4, Informative)

waffle zero (322430) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210792)

I've had success installing Mandrake using the network install floppy. Here are some simple instructions [umr.edu] , but the gist is that you download the network.img [umr.edu] and note the location of a rpm mirror for when it asks you. It downloads a 45mb cramfs image and uncompresses it to memory so you should ideally have 90+mb of ram, or mount a swap partition from one of the other terminals.

I would recommend doing a very minimal install consisting of nothing but GNOME or KDE and any servers you wish to run. Then after the install, use urpmi [linux-mandrake.com] to install any other packages. With 9.1 I would get lynx and use it to grab a list of mirrors from Easy Urpmi [zarb.org] . I recommend using Texstar's repository whenever he starts packaging for 9.2. The page currently only has 9.1 and earlier sources, but expect people pestering him from this link to illicit an update.

What about CDROM? (1)

bluegreenone (526698) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210923)

Ah, but how about a CDROM network install image? Why don't they release that when fewer and fewer people still use floppies? Any way to burn the network.img to CD and boot from that?

Re:Network install for the cheap (1)

LinuxGeek8 (184023) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210943)

Instead of depending on the mirror list on the Plf site, you could install and run urpmi.setup, with which you can set up media for urpmi, like Main, Contrib, PLF and Jpackage. Not sure if there are already 9.2 mirrors for these media though.
Btw, I heard that not all the mirrors have their trees fully synced yet, so a minimal install with basic gui, urpmi and urpmi.setup might be a good idea indeed.

My review of Mandrake (in french, sorry) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210813)

Le linux 9,2 de Mandrake est une distribution de Linux concue pour les personnes qui comme l'obtenir vers le haut des fesses des perdants etranges. Cela prend 20 minutes pour que cela copie un dossier de 17 mega-octets. Presque aussi mauvais que l'OS d'imper! Si le youre recherchant un distro decent, essayent svp l'edition rouge de moron de chapeau.

Re:My review of Mandrake (in french, sorry) (0)

Znonymous Coward (615009) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210860)

Speak Englush or die.

My french is rather bad, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210918)

It says something to the effect that Mandrake is for people who like to take it in the ass and that if you want a real distro you should use the moron's Red Hat.

Now 100% Free Software, cool (1)

ciaran_o_riordan (662132) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210845)

From: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/9.2/features/#13 [mandrakelinux.com]

Since Netscape and the last few remaining proprietary applications have been removed, Mandrake Linux 9.2 is a "100% Free Software" product. This means that everyone is granted the right to access the sources, modify and redistribute the software. This also means that Mandrake Linux 9.2 can be deployed on as many machines as desired.

Re:Now 100% Free Software, cool (0, Troll)

The One KEA (707661) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210892)

Since when is Netscape a proprietary application? Sources have been available since 1998!

Why oh why is the user interface still so stale? (1, Interesting)

shibbie (619359) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210848)

Why do the default UI's in Linux distro look so Windows 95? Why do they have to look all the same despite Redhats and Mandrake's custom themes? I know you can have funky bells and whistles if you want to customize but if you look at Windows XP out of the box it STANDS OUT and YELLS "I'm different!" (from previous versions of Windows). By the time we get up to spec on Windows XP's curved UI as a default UI, Longhorn will be about with its 3D user interface and Linux will be sporting the oh so old XP like GUI. What we need is a default skin or theme that is round like Aqua, that doesn't have an annoting "K" or footprint as the Start button. IANAD (Designer) but square start menus and frames just don't cut it anymore. Let INNOVATE rather than copy, I know there are some fantastic web designers out there that can do wonders with GIMP (etc) and plain HTML. Surely a UI isn't much more difficult?

Re:Why oh why is the user interface still so stale (1)

happyfrogcow (708359) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210881)

I use the command prompt, you insensitive clod.

I've come to the conclusion... (1)

Sean isn't Shawn (716042) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210888)

that linux is a fourth level language.

RPMS have been mirrored already (1)

Aggrajag (716041) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210900)

At least here in Europe. Going to upgrade MDK 9.1 using ftp as soon as I get home.

not to burn karma on grammar bitchiness or anythin (2, Funny)

Ravagin (100668) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210910)

Mandrake Club members get full access to 9.2 ISOs (through BitTorrent), as well as... all 9.2 contributors and translators

So if I join the club I get access to all the contributors and translators? Like, I can make them mow my lawn and stuff?

Never have a seen a bigger collection of tr0lls... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7210911)

I feel inclined to point out that, as of this posting, there isn't a single comment in the discussion that's been modded higher than 3, and with good reason. It's real fux0ring simple... if you don't have anything intelligent to say, keep your piehole shut.

And yes, I know that by posting this I'm just adding to the drivel. I figure there's so much, nobody will really notice anyway.

Looking forward to 10.0 (1)

matchboy (519044) | more than 10 years ago | (#7210927)

Mandrake is nice and all..but not ideal for servers. Lady Death Maggot [houseofteriyaki.com] poll! Make her do evil stuff on her webcam.
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