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Is Bluetooth Dead?

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the stopgap-on-the-way-to-wireless-networking dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "According to the EETimes, Bluetooth is dead. From the article: "In a few short years, many will look back on Bluetooth as a lesson on marketing gone awry". So what do ya'll think? Does he have a point, or is Bluetooth not quite dead yet?"

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Not quite dead, yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223789)

I mean, Microsoft is supporting it, so it's got that going for it. Although, the latest Intellipoint/type drivers (5.0) that support it are seriously crippled, which will keep me away from it.

Soooo very wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223928)

Bluetooth is not dead, BSD is dead. Sorry - just had to. :-P

No, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223790)

But *BSD sure the hell is.

FP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223792)

FP, you insensitive clod!

fp (-1)

matto14 (593826) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223793)

well yhis is a post from bluetooth keyboard

Bluetooth is dead... (1)

mz001b (122709) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223795)

...guess that means that BSD supports it?

Re:Bluetooth is dead... (3, Interesting)

kwerle (39371) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223846)

....guess that means that BSD supports it?

Indeed it does. Just as USB and Firewire struggled in the beginning, so it goes with Bluetooth. Apple has picked up the torch, however, so I expect that in a couple of years there will be plenty of PCs (especially notebooks) that support it.

Re:Bluetooth is dead... (1)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223927)

Wait... what is Bluetooth again?

Oh, I guess that's why it's dead. ;-)

Bluetooth shall be remembered in history (-1, Troll)

zx-6e (604380) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223796)

Bluetooth is dead! Long live Bluetooth! (First post too!)

You're wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223836)

Bluetooth was quite a success...compared to ISDN.

ISDN was popular in Europe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223856)

It just never really caught on in the United States.

Re:ISDN was popular in Europe (1)

selfabuse (681350) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223921)

Since I work at an ISP, my numbers are probally biased, but I know many many many more people using ISDN then I do using bluetooth, and this in in Philadelphia.

It's true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223797)

It has joined BSD in the great beyond.

the purple blue tooth eater (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223799)

It was crap anyways.

dental work? (1)

edrugtrader (442064) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223801)

it probably just needs a filling or 2.

maybe deep root planing? that usually works for me.

fr1st (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223802)

I am t3h p1ster fr0st

What's in a name? (2, Funny)

Anonym1ty (534715) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223804)

Maybe it's because of it's name. We already have enough people who fear they may get bitten by their computer. If you were one, would you buy it teeth?

Re:What's in a name? (1)

Dreadlord (671979) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223963)

Bluetooth was named after a Viking who was a Danish King, his name was Harald Blatand. Blatand was loosely translated into Bluetooth, now I hear you asking why the heck is it called after the Danish King, as I read somewhere, Harald Blatand had united Demark and Norway, so as the wireless technology which units people.
Weird huh?

Dead schmed (1)

EvilArchitect (515225) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223806)

Long live the vikings

Not even popular yet... (0)

Piranhaa (672441) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223810)

Many cars have yet to get accompanied with Bluetooth yet. Once we see some more activity, I'm almost certain that people will start using it more and more... Just my 2 centrs

Not by Apple's account (1)

celery stalk (617764) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223811)

dead? nah, Powerbooks have it!

first post? w00!

Yes, but... (1)

MadAnthony02 (626886) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223961)

hasn't apple been dead, or dying, since the early 1980's?

jk

Time for Bluetooth 2.0? (1)

mrklin (608689) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223812)

How about Red Teeth? Or a low-powered, secured 802.11b? Then again, I am seeing more and more pBT products i.e. cell phones and PDAs anbd GPS.

Not quite dead yet (1)

entropy1980 (622108) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223813)

I don't think it's as much dead as it is just late to the party.... seems we are finally getting the products we were promised: mice, phones, headsets, PDA's, just like 2-3 years later than we thought.

Re:Not quite dead yet (0)

madskills (413229) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223966)

I agree. This guy is jumping to conclusions that Bluetooth is dead because... he doesn't use it.

He also rants on about new and better technologies on the horizon. Hello, there are ALWAYS new and better technologies on the horizon! At some point, you have to stick with something good enough, and we have it.

Personally, I just purchased my first round of Bluetooth devices, and it's REALLY cool. Soon, I'll be able to hop in my car and start talking without taking my phone out of my pocket. The software side of things is still a bit rough, but it'll get there.

Also, what's all this crap about Wi-Fi replacing Bluetooth? It's all about device convergence man! :)

I wanna be a journalist so that I can my lame-ass opinion gets front page on Slashdot :)

is not dead..!! (1)

mopx (581929) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223814)

i just buy an ipaq with bluetooth!!

Bah (1)

Coderstop (701079) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223821)

Bluetooth is quite useful for hands free cell phone kits, particularly now that using a mobile phone in cars in banned in the UK.

I sure hope not (1)

hprotagonist0 (312387) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223822)

I really hope it's not dead, because I just bought a wireless Bluetooth keyboard for my laptop, and a USB Bluetooth dongle to go with it.

Re:I sure hope not (1)

raju1kabir (251972) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223894)

I really hope it's not dead, because I just bought a wireless Bluetooth keyboard for my laptop, and a USB Bluetooth dongle to go with it.

Even if it never achieves critical mass, I really doubt anyone's going to come to your house and confiscate your perfectly-decent equipment. So you can relax.

Long Live Bluetooth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223823)

Bluetooth shall live on. I use it frequently, and its very convenient. Who couldnt love it?

chips too expensive (1)

havaloc (50551) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223826)

The problem was that the chipsets to support Bluetooth were too expensive. If it's not cheap enough, no one will support it, and thus it won't get any cheaper. Lather, Rinse, Repeat. Also, times that I had to use Bluetooth for research products, the thing never worked right. Anything between different vendors was a joke.

Great name, white human (2, Funny)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223827)


It amazes me how bad technically oriented people are at marketing. What's next, Redfoot?

Re:Great name, white human (1)

inteller (599544) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223943)

It's Bluetooth, not Bluegum.

Bluetooth will take off like USB did (1)

jsvesnik (553230) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223828)

Ah, they were saying the same thing about USB when it was first starting to take hold in the market.

I use it everyday... (1)

toupsie (88295) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223830)

It still works on my Sony T68i cell phone everyday. I sync it to my Mac on a daily basis and control iTunes with it. Its a good technology for things like this.

If its dead, what is going to replace it?

Re:I (too) use it everyday... (1)

lullabud (679893) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223938)

yup, i have a t68i as well and bluetooth is perfect for what i do with it, mainly syncing my address book and sending SMS messages. and although i don't do this, i know people who do use bluetooth mice with their powerbooks, which saves them the dongle. pretty fly, just take out the mouse, turn it on and you're good.

I think companies knew before we did (1)

WndrBr3d (219963) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223831)

A year ago, an owner of a local computer store here picked up about 5,000 units of Toshiba Bluetooth client connectivity cards at almost $2.00 a piece. He was amazed at this price and of course jumped on it.

Before his company closed, I think he was only able to sell about 20 units over a 1 year period.

Personally, I think Toshiba has known for a while Blue Tooth tanked and was trying to cut their losses.

Yes! (2, Funny)

saden1 (581102) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223832)

IEEE 802.11 has taken over! It is everywhere now. even my microwave oven is IEEE 802.11 enabled.

Re:Yes! (1)

FPCat (646737) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223884)

Yeah... My microwave belts out noise at 2.4 GHz as well...

So what's taking it's place? (2, Insightful)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223833)

So what competing technology is stepping in to take Bluetooth's place? It's low power, short range, and doesn't need a fancy access point.

Come on people, electricity took 50 years to become commonplace. This is technology, not pet rocks.

It's Alive (0)

Psychotic_Wrath (693928) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223837)

I still see some bluetooth stuff sittin around i think they still got some hope.

Apple (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223839)

Apple has just started to get interested [apple.com] , so I don't think it's dead yet. If Apple comes up with a killer app for it (which they might now that they've started looking), the rest of the industry will follow.

Killer App: iSync (1)

toupsie (88295) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223879)

Apple's iSync works beautifully with BlueTooth enabled devices such as my Sony T68i phone.

Re:Apple (2, Interesting)

The Bod (18970) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223909)

I think Apple with do for Bluetooth what they did with USB. My wife and I are living apart right now (she went back to school and I haven't moved yet) and we have been playing with iChat. I've been thinking of getting each of us a Bluetooth microphone/headset so we don't need to be stuck at the computer to talk to each other.

no its not (1)

simonharvey (605068) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223840)

it takes time for people to implement it in their products (for developers to become familiar with the technology)

just wait longer

Hopefully not (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223841)

I'd like to see bluetooth embraced but until bluetooth keyboards cost more than wireless keyboards that come with a reciever I doubt this will happen. I think bluetooth will happen just as USB has happened: At first its a fancy connector only the latest and greatest use. People start getting computers that support it by default. Now its a connector for everything.

Last post! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223843)

lp! Yeah!

Blue what? (1)

circusnews (618726) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223845)

You know, I don't thing I have ever actually seen a bluetooth device other than on a web page or two. How many of you have?

Bluetooth not dead for PAN (1)

SunCrushr (153472) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223847)

I personally use a bluetooth enabled phone, bluez kernel bluetooth drivers, and a bluetooth headset all nicely together.
This lets me connect to the internet with my phone and I can use the bluetooth headset to talk on the phone hands free and wire free.
I think that this makes it a very usable technology.
If bluetooth is dead, then why are so many people working so fast to support it so well in Linux?

Attention Cubbies!! Steve Bartman is "The Fan" (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223848)

The name of "The Fan" is Steve Bartman. He lives in Northbrook, Illinois.

Steve Bartman, age 26, works at Hewitt Associates, an international consulting firm in Lincolnshire.

Share your thoughts with Steve Bartman: Steve Bartman (steve.bartman@hewitt.com) [mailto]

Re:Attention Cubbies!! Steve Bartman is "The Fan" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223895)

Why are you posting someone's e-mail?
Is he a spammer?

Re:Attention Cubbies!! Steve Bartman is "The Fan" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223914)

read any story about last night's Chicago Cubs game. I suggest starting at googlenews.

Bluetooth dead? Interesting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223853)

No, wait, the other thing - tedious.

There would have been nothing wrong with bluetooth (1)

TWX (665546) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223854)

... if the devices that came out to use it had been cheap enough to catch on. But, with a mouse for laptop users coming in at $60, one can see why it didn't catch on. I would have really appreciated to have wireless connectivity for my laptop peripherals, but due to the potential for losing the devices, I'm not going to shell out that much money for it. The wire itself helps with security; it keeps things attached.

If bluetooth had been more widely supplied stock on desktop computers, and in cameras, PDAs, and the like, it might have made a difference. Again, I'm not going to pay $50 for a 'bluetooth base station' for the one or two bluetooth devices that I can find if I can just use USB, even with the cable mess, and maybe only have to buy a cheap USB hub.

If everything had adopted it within a year, or had inexpensive optional upgrades for it, I don't think we'd be discussing it's abandonment now.

obligitory.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223855)

This just in: EETimes confirms, Bluetooth is dying!

ah, you know the rest.......

Nah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223859)

Some widely-popular trends have a slow start at times. IMHO, it's just starting to pick up. I've begun to notice more and more Bluetooth-enabled devices in major retail stores, so I don't think it's leaving anytime soon.

Template for articles like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223862)

Is so-and-so dead?

While the so-and-so technology promised a lot to deliver, the future of so-and-so is quite bleak. Frankly, with different-so-and-so on the horizon, it's hard to see how so-and-so will ever get any market share. [insert name] from [insert agency] says: "I expected so-and-so to rule the market in 2 years, and it's not there. Meanwhile, different-so-and-so is gaining".

Is so-and-so dying? What do readers think?

Bluetooth is dead. So is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223866)

...Java. I've been saying the Java thing for years, and the Bluetooth thing for about 6-8 months. Neither lived up to the hype. Java got to be so popular b/c it rode the dotcom wave.

Definitely dead (1)

masonjd (657070) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223869)

With 802.11x becoming so standard in everything from laptops to handhelds why would anyone want to use Bluetooth anymore? Bluetooth is slower and doesn't have any real benefit over 802.11x.

Re:Definitely dead (1)

PurpleFloyd (149812) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223947)

802.11x and Bluetooth target totally different markets. 802.11x is designed to link computers together; Bluetooth is designed to link peripherals to computers. This means that Bluetooth is much simpler to work with (so embedded microcontrollers can understand it) and very low-power (so it can run for a decent length of time from cheap batteries). 802.11x, on the other hand, takes some computing power on each end and is designed with the assumption that there's AC power or a long-life battery available. Bluetooth is simpler; that's the point. You'll never see an 802.11x mouse for sale, but you can buy several Bluetooth mice right now.

Yes...and so is Apple and BSD. (1)

FrankieBoy (452356) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223872)

These pundits rear their heads every once in a while, I think they like hearing themselves typing.

Wait a sec (1)

bigjnsa500 (575392) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223873)

And here I thought *BSD was dead, now Bluetooth is dead? Which is it?

Oh no... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223874)

Its the bluetooth of death!

Dead. (1)

strredwolf (532) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223877)

Yep. Dead. It was low-power, incompatible with longer-range tech, and overhyped. Why have point-to-point RF IrDA when you can have wireless Ethernet to already connected networks, including your machine?

Re:Dead. (1)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223933)

because 8.11a will half the running time of your pda and wont work at all with your cell-phone?

Apple's adopting it (1)

cmang (103268) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223878)

If Bluetooth is dead, then why has Apple [apple.com] just come out with a wireless keyboard [apple.com] and wireless mouse [apple.com] based on bluetooth? The software for controlling MacOS from a bluetooth cellphone is neat, too. I seem to be hearing more about bluetooth every day.

It's dead and this is a dupe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223880)

Bluetooth was never really alive. But, now it's really dead.

Not exactly a dupe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223960)

But the same question was asked here [slashdot.org] not too long ago.

I dunno... (1)

ruiner13 (527499) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223886)

I find it quite useful for syncing my contacts on my cell phone with my mac at home. Isn't a technology dead when no one uses it any more? I still use it, and Apple still seems behind it, since they just released a new keyboard and mouse that use it (no one button jokes, those are getting old). I think reports about bluetooth being dead should be declared dead.

As Usual.. (4, Insightful)

swdunlop (103066) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223889)

It might take a little while for the PC world to come onboard with the technology, yet, there are companies that have adopted Bluetooth early, and seem to be putting some weight behind it. Apple [apple.com] has recently added a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to their line of products, making my powerbook's bluetooth chipset actually useful. The mouse is very well designed for use by travellers, although someone here is sure to bitch about the number of buttons within minutes.

Next time that I'm ready to upgrade my palm, as they tend to meet unfortunate fates while I travel, I'll probably pick up a bluetooth palm so I can carry one less cable with me. The cell phone world also makes use of bluetooth now to avoid cables.

It's just the conventional PC world that is taking its sweet time adopting Bluetooth. Considering that the market for wireless keyboards and mice definately hasn't gone away for Logitech, there is still a niche for bluetooth. Now that the marketing hype is fading away, the useful devices are slowly becoming available.

Re:As Usual.. (1)

NineNine (235196) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223920)

Wireless keyboards and mice are just toys. There's no real advantage to them at all... just more headache (yet another thing to configure/put batteries in/go wrong). Besides, wireless keyboards have been around since the beginning of time. I had a great one with my PCjr. Worked like a champ, but I really didn't care that it was wireless.

PalmOne Releases the Tungsten T4 (1)

nucrash (549705) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223890)

Just as this is announced PalmOne releases a new Tungsten T4 (bluetooth enabled) with a 2GHz 970 PowerPC Processor with a 21" display in a 3 inch body.

I guess Palm is just one of those companies that just doesn't know when to let something die

Re:PalmOne Releases the Tungsten T4 (1)

eyegor (148503) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223924)

Oh yeah!!! That's the model that uses a cold fusion power source and will let you sell back power when you're docked.

I have mine on order right now!!!

I'll be selling my old model T, T2, and T3 on ebay real soon!!!

It's a great idea, but..... (1)

eyegor (148503) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223892)


I have a Nokia 3650 (great phone, btw) and the bluetooth is great for some things, but painful for others.

Finding a BT headset that would work with my phone was a royal PITA. It seems that Nokia has a funky handsfree profile that most headsets won't play nice with. The headsets pair just fine, but then won't do anything useful.

Jabra has upgraded the BT200 to be compatible, but some that are in stores are the old version and some are the new version.

I do love the ability to automagically sync my palm, my iPod and my 3650 (via bt) all at once from my G4.

Was it ever alive? (1)

Arch-out (710539) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223898)

I dont know about anyone else but I dont think it was ever alive and kicking, always sounding like an idea looking for a reason?

Obligatory Monty Python Reference (1)

shelleymonster (606787) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223899)

Eric Idle: "Bring out your dead, bring out your dead."
EETimes: "here I have one for you"
Bluetooth: "I'm not dead yet!"
EETimes"You will be soon."
Bluetooth:"I think I am getting better"
EETimes"No you aren't"
Bluetooth:"I think I will take a walk"
Eric Idle: "Sir, I dont think we can take him in this condition."

*BSD and Bluethooth are DYING (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223900)

Fact: *BSD is dying

It is common knowledge that *BSD is dying, that ever hapless *BSD is mired in an irrecoverable and mortifying tangle of fatal trouble. It is perhaps anybody's guess as to which *BSD is the worst off of an admittedly suffering *BSD community. The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The loss of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of BSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major marketing surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among hobbyist dilettante dabblers. In truth, for all practical purposes *BSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking.

Fact: *BSD is dying

MOD PARENT UP!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223939)

Parent is argumentative, provided real data.
Original posting, should be modded Insightful.

Not dead, what killed it? (1)

Alcimedes (398213) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223904)

to be realistic, for something to be dead in a technology world, something else has to kill it.

what's killed bluetooth? bluetooth killed the IR port, but i don't think that anything has come around to kill bluetooth.

802.11 isn't really for the same applications. for simple, small, easy to use devices bluetooth is top notch. mice, keyboards, phones, small file sharing etc it's wonderful.

it might not have taken off and be everywhere, but it's around, it's used, and there's nothing else widely available that works along the same lines.

who knows though, maybe something else will come along and bumb off bluetooth, but until then, it's not dead. on life support, maybe.

Complexity is part of the problem (1)

msgmonkey (599753) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223905)

One of the problems with bluetooth is that it's so complicated to implement. If you download the spec it's massive, just looking at the contents gives you a headache. This complexity also makes it expensive.

Not dead yet... (1)

jerk (38494) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223912)

Bluetooth is just recently making it's way into devices that the consumer can use. Finally we get bluetooth headsets and cell phones, keyboards, mice, etc. Apple has just released their new keyboard and mouse and Microsoft and Logitech have theirs. This is the same thing that happened with USB. PC's had USB several years before Apple implemented it on the iMac. After the iMac, we saw an explosion of USB devices and that was that. I think we'll see the same thing with Bluetooth.

Dead? I think not (1)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223913)

Please explain how Bluetooth is dead when:

  • Apple Computer is supporting Bluetooth in all current Powerbooks, which represent 50%+ of their sales, and many new laptops have Bluetooth as an option
  • Apple, Microsoft, Kensington, etc either have keyboards+mice out already or are releasing them soon
  • Siemens, Sony/Ericcson, and Nokia all support Bluetooth on several models each. Bluetooth adoption in the mobile market in Europe has been going strong for quite some time now.
  • Palm, Compaq/HP, etc all have PDA models with Bluetooth
  • Half a dozen peripheral companies offer inexpensive Bluetooth adapters
  • Bluetooth headsets are available
  • Cars(Saab, at the moment) are now coming with Bluetooth
  • MacOS, Linux, and Windows all support Bluetooth- including address+appointment syncing, internet connectivity, etc...even remote control(screen locking when you step away, iTunes/presentation software control, etc)

For a 'dead' technology, Bluetooth certainly has a lot going for it. Everything I've read says it's hit/hitting critical mass, not dying...and this seems more like hysterical "the world's ending tomorrow!" bull to me than anything else. Maybe the author has an interest in one of the other competing technologies, none of which I can even name, because they're not even a tenth as popular as Bluetooth?

Re:Dead? I think not (1)

NineNine (235196) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223972)

Simple. Nobody's actually using it, and the public doesn't even know what it is.

where's netcraft when you need em? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223917)

Because their demise was never confirmed by Netcraft, I'm still wearing parachute pants with jelly shoes.

"I'm feeling better..." (1)

JakiChan (141719) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223918)

I think the thing to keep in mind that WPANs aren't dead, but who knows what the future of Bluetooth will be. WPANs are sweet, though. I've got Bluetooth in my phone, PDA, and Laptop. I can use the phone to access the Internet, sync everything wirelessly, and share information. It's pretty cool.

I've seen the news for a while that 802.11 is killing Bluetooth. I just don't get it - 802.11 is great, but when I'm out somewhere with no WAP in site I can use bluetooth to access the net through my phone just fine. Untill you've got universal wireless ethernet everywhere (and hell, we don't have wireless service everywhere for phones) then to me it's still useful.

Bluetooth and BSD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223925)

Someone should get those two together. I think you get a discount when purchasing two burial plots and headstones.

Not dead - just slow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223931)

Others have already pointed it out - but I'll say it again here - Bluetooth isn't dead. It's just taking a while longer to get popular than was predicted (by some) or perhaps touted in the media.

The thing to remember is that this ALWAYS happens. I can't believe Slashdotters have forgotten already what happened with USB. For YEARS, USB was available on PCs and was touted as the next big thing... next year will be the year of USB etc etc etc. But it didn't take off for quite a while - and some were certainly predicting its early demise. Yet here we are now, and everything uses USB and we can't imagine life without it.

The same process is happening with Bluetooth. More and more vendors are adding support... at some point it will reach critical mass and everyone will be using it. Have some patience before declaring it dead. :)

Teetering... but I love it! (1)

invisik (227250) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223932)

Not sure why the latest round of Tungsten handhelds ALL don't have it. It seems like it should be standard on all but the cheapest models. 802.11b is a waste of time on a handheld, IMHO. That functionality is better served over bluetooth.

I got the IBM X31 with bluetooth, Ericsson R520m with bluetooth, and the Sony Clie TG-50 with bluetooth and they all talk together extremely well. Dialing your phone directly from your Palm address book has now become essential and wireless hotsync a life saver (although you still have to put it in the cradle for charging, so you sync via USB at that time as well)....

I don't think it cam be beat right now. I hope all my devices hold out for at least another year....

-m

Its still taking off (1)

mr_exit (216086) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223937)

I think bluetooth is the greatest, most of my friends have at least a bluetooth cellphone and many also use a bluetooth PDA,

My phone automaticly syncs to my pc when I sit at my desk and I beam contacts and photos from my sonyericsson T610 to other people all the time

for me bluetooth is the new killer app that made me get a 2.5G cell phone

Yes, it's dying, but not for his reasons (1)

Dielectric (266217) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223940)

The author says the application stack was the best part, but the PHY was bad. I say exactly the opposite. The 2.4GHz phy work that was done was actually quite good for a personal area network. It's deployable anywhere in the world (2.4GHz is a worldwide ISM band) and low power. However, the application stack got so big that the processing power required killed the node cost. This was supposed to be less than $5US per node, but ended up over $10US.

Anyway, it's pretty much dead. Too big for it's britches. Let's learn from this and keep those beautiful RF front ends that came out of the bluetooth experiment.

Idiocy - bluetooth just taking off (5, Informative)

mccalli (323026) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223941)

No idea about the States (I imagine most of the below applies), but certainly in Europe Bluetooth is really just taking off. It's not computers per se that are driving the uptake however, it's mobile phones.

Most of the medium to high-end phones sold now have Bluetooth capabilities. Even if this isn't used for more than connecting to a hands-free device, it's still a use of Bluetooth. The UK, for example, is about to introduce a law giving penalties to drivers caught using mobiles phone handsets themselves. The fines do not apply to certain hands-free devices, so an increase in Bluetooth car kits is foreseen.

Back to the computing front, and we're on to synchronisation. I understand a number of people are having hassle on the PC, however I imagine that will be fixced at some point. On the Mac bluetooth synchronisation is completely seamless - it is so totally transparent that I don't even think about it. Then there's file transfer - I use bluetooth to transfer photos and video clips off the phone (3650) to my laptop, and use bluetooth to transfer files back onto the phone (normally C64 games for use in an emulator).

The guy who wrote the article needs to get out more.

, Cheers,
Ian

Was it ever alive? (1)

ryan76 (666210) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223942)

Was bluetooth ever alive? Its more of an ideal or a dream.

I thought it was dead three years ago (1)

trailerparkcassanova (469342) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223953)

but then it got up and stumbled around.

I am using it on a daily basis (1)

ArrayIndexOutOfBound (694797) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223954)

... and its the best way my phones (nokia) will talk to my pc. It's also fast for this purpose...

Bluetooth & 3G are indeed crap brands (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7223957)

people have spent too much time talking and not enough doing, in the mean time WiFi has overtaken them to become the wireless standard of choice

cellphones look out because you're next

I won't but items with out it, (1)

zulux (112259) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223959)

My Sony TG60 connects with my Ericsson 68i over bluetooth.

I can then SSH into any of my servers anywhere with the little keyboard on the TG60.

No fucking way I'm giving that up - it's really nice and usefull.

"Feeling much better now..." (1)

Gudlyf (544445) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223967)

It can't be quite that dead yet. Heck, I'm posting off my Zaurus using BT to my T68i now. Works like a champ.

Is this an American thing? (1)

Polaris (9232) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223970)

Because here in Europe people use Bluetooth all the time. I use it to connect my laptop to my mobile phone to dial up when on the move and to send business cards to other mobile phones (much less fiddly than infrared). My Mac friends use their Bluetooth phones to control their Macs (iTunes, Powerpoint clicker, even to lock the screen when they (ie their phone) moves out of Bluetooth range). When DWY becomes illegal in England in December I plan on buying a Bluetooth headset: no fiddly wires, the phone can be in my briefcase when I answer a call. So no sign of Bluetooth death here.

Marketing did not kill Bluetooth (0)

Agent Smart (204871) | more than 10 years ago | (#7223971)

The marketing effort was most certainly derailed by early engineering promises that didn't even come close. Remember them saying 100mbps at 100m? Ridiculous promises, and a LONG time before they had anything at all to show.
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