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Lucas to end Star Wars

sengan posted more than 15 years ago | from the star-wars-overdose dept.

Star Wars Prequels 48

VanL writes " Looks like episodes 7,8, and 9 are not to be. Lucas told Vanity Fair that he plans to quit after the prequels are done." Related news for Dutch Trekkies below.In a related story Merijn Broeren wrote in to tell us " More geeky news for Dutch viewers. There will be a Star Trek Movie marathon next week (16 January), an all night Trek fest, with 4 shows after each other. The first three you can choose between the 8 old movies, then in three rooms at once the new Insurrection. 1400 trekkies will attend!" More info in Dutch (which I can't read).

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bull.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047324)

Do you all really think that the series will end with Return of the Jedi, the crappiest of all the Star Wars? I hope not. That would be a bad ending.

Life has no meaning (beyond episode 3) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047325)

NOOOOOOoooooooooo!!! :(

This is probably a good thing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047326)

I mean I liked the first three(middle three?, ep. IV,V,VI) and enjoyed them greatly but the hype for these new ones is going to far. I hate to say this but when something gets hyped this much people almost always end up disapointed.

Glad Lucas knows when to quit... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047327)

...better to go out in style than out in a coffin.

A pity the Star Dreck writers will never learn this...

WTF?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047328)

WTF??? Then why should I go see the new ones?? This would be like buying a book with the last page ripped out... Doesn't make ANY sense to me...

Books doomed 7-9 anyway. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047329)

I could have told you this years ago, when Lucasfilm opened up the post-Return of the Jedi era to novelists, comic book companies, and game companies.

Stefan Jones

Quit this crap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047330)

The first post about Star Wars had everything!
It had the pictures. It had the news. It had it all.

Anyone twit that can point-n-click could have followed
the links off of the original post!

Kinda understood (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047331)

It's been kinda understood that Mr. Lucas wouldn't continue past Jedi for 5-6 years now when he gave license to write official Star Wars novels--all dealing with events after ROTJ. Now there are over 30 books with the stories taking place after Episode VI.
Likewise, from what I understand, Mr. Lucas only allows novels written after Jedi, except for the few Han Solo books which only elaborate on the life of an existing character. It seems kinda obvious that he would never make another film after A New Hope because of the existence of these novels and the non-existence of any 'prequel' novels; he didn't want his ideas to be exposed on paper.

Because they still make money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047332)

Not necessarily... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047333)

People who have been following Star Wars novels for years would revolt. The whole idea of the books was that they legitimately fit in the Star Wars universe and are required to (at least try to) fit into a continuity.

Actually, bringing back the old characters as Grandpa Luke and Grandma Leia isn't that bad of an idea. They could reintroduce some of the continuity from the books with new characters and bring in new threats that have not been covered so far.

JMS != a what (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047334)

JMS is a who, not a what.

(This post has been brought to you by the letter B, and the number 5. It would have also been brought to you by the number 4, but we lost that one somewhere along the line...)

No Subject Given (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047335)

The real reason he quit making the movies is because he was filthy rich- i think he needed a cash infusion again and he wont need to make 789 after the prequils

Here's the kicker (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047336)

The original star wars were great what if these ones suck alot. Like I mean Star Trek suck.

What then? StarWars has been defaced? Just thing of yourself as lucky cause he's just making 3 more and that's it.

No Subject Given (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047337)

Gumber sez:

Why isn't anyone calling on Lucas to open source Star Wars so that that people can legally create derivatve works based on the original story and characters without being sued or paying license fees?

Life has no meaning (beyond episode 3) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047338)

you said it. Come June 2005 (after E3), I don't know what else to look forward to. :(

DIVX????? noooooo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047339)

You have to be kidding, please, tell me your kidding. Divx only? I can only hope that lame-ass format is dead by the time the movies come out on video.

Who makes that anyway? Circuit City? Maybe Disney too? I don't remember, once I do, I'll make sure I never give any $ to them anymore(except for Pixar flicks if it is Disney).

This rich: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047340)

If Bill gates would be a country, he would be number 34 on the list of the richest countries, just ahead of Poland. He is filthy rich. He sometimes promised, that when he turns 50, he would give most of it to charity, leaving just enough for himself to manage. This might have been a rumour.

They're probably already filmed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047341)

It wouldn't surprise me if 7-9 were already partially filmed. With all of the secret locations and the actors themselves not knowing the full script. It is entirely conceivable that parts of 2 and 3 have already been filmed and that parts of 789 will be filmed during the next two films.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047342)

Yep, as soon as CG gets good enough to simulate a virtual Harrison Ford, because he doesn't want to do it. If Ford doesn't want to be in the movie, what can you do? Offer him gobs of cash? He already has that. Nope, it's not going to happen.

And George and Steven better not make a Indiana Jones with out Ford, either. That's just plain wrong.

John Vestrum

Sheesh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047343)

According to the interviews before the films on the first tapes, Lucas said he had already written the storyline for all 9 episodes before he filmed Star Wars, which means he should have no problem with the dead-character problem...

BOBA Fett ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047344)

Read "Tales of the bounty hunters", how he escaped the Sarlacc Pit is mentioned there. BTW IG88 and Dengar's story are my favorites.

bull.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047345)

ESB was the crappiest.

WTF?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047346)

Return of the Jedi *IS* chapter 6. It appears Mr. Lucas is not going to write 7,8 and 9...

I'm not surprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047347)

Here's a guy who had a creative vision for a massive epic when he was a young man. He was really excited about Star Wars _when he was younger_. But he was tired of doing SW already by the time he finished episode 6. He said in interviews right after 6 that he wouldn't be making anymore SW for awhile for that reason.

Now he's 55. He obviously doesn't want to spend the rest of his life (literally) making SW. (Go back and figure how long it took him to make 4,5&6 and figure it up.)

ESB kicked arse: overview (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047348)

Empire was by far the best SW movie! Here is a general overview of the three SW movies:

A New Hope:
Farmboy hooks up with a criminal, gets stuck in a huge military installation, saves a princess, and then blows up the Death Star. And old guy also dies.

Empire Strikes Back:
Darth Vader, obviously pissed that he lost the Death Star, starts killing everyone - even his own troops. He destroys the Rebel Base, captures the criminal Han Solo and freezes him in a big block of metal, and chops off Luke Skywalker's hand. Other plot elements are Luke meets the muppets and we meet the ultra-cool Boba Fet. Also, Luke finds Darth Vader is his father.

Return of the Jedi:
After the success of ESB, Lucas decides muppets need to have a much more prominent role. Thus they go around destroying imperial AT-AT and AT-ST's. Other plot elements include Darth Vader kills the evil emperor after Luke kicks his arse and reveals that Luke is Leia's brother (thus giving SW a uncomfortable incest feel). Also there is a big worm in it named Jabba, whose sole reason for being in the movie is because he likes feeding people to his pet Rancor.

the books ARE non canon. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047349)

The books are canon. I'm not sure about the discrepency from ROTJ you mentioned, but I know that in A New Hope, they brought in (briefly) the Corellian vessel used in the Shadows of the Empire novel. At least, this was according to LucasArts "Behind the Magic" CD that had detailed information behind all the movies.

bull.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2047350)

Return of the Jedi left a lot of questions and un-ended plot lines. I don't think the series is about one family. The series is about the Republic (Old and New). There are still generals, soldiers, and other bad guys out there. The Republic still needs to be ressurected. He has
to work with. Let's hope he does.

The Dutch text... (1)

ESD (62) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047351)

...says the same things as the English text (click the British flag in the upper right corner), with the addition that the price for a ticket is 45 guilders (about 20 Euro :)

Agreed... (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047352)

Movies are a bit different... a good director can keep doing good movies. He doesn't have to crank out one per week.

Coruscant and ROTJ:SE, canon, etc. (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047353)

Actually, in the latest X-Wing novel, one of the characters says that he was involved with a group that broadcast the destruction of the death star by hacking into the computer systems on Coruscant to bypass the Imperial propaganda. This set off a lot of celebrations... which were unfortunately later quelled by stormtroopers firing into crowds. Just thought that might be relevant.

bobba fett ... (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047354)

He did? I musta missed something...

Maybe too late... (1)

On Lawn (1073) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047355)

One of the best parts of the series was the story behind the story. That is an essential element to writing.

I'm going to not be negative, I'll look forward and stand in line with anticipation with everyone else. But I really fear he will not (and from the trailer it looks this way) figure a good enough reason for Anakin to go bad. At best I anticipate the old plot of a good kid who is confused and impresionable, and the bad people seem to be the only ones who understand him. (i.e. Hook)

Seems better to have it insinuated(sp?), huh.
ABORTED effort:
Close all that you have.

Maybe too late... (1)

On Lawn (1073) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047356)

Hmmm, the only parts of the Return of the Jedi I didn't like was a few "stars need more roles" kind of contravnces. Lando and Han are all of a sudden Generals and leading the main missions. I felt that cheapens the Rebellion and makes it seem as though only five people have all the talent.

The plot as you describe it is (BiON) pretty much what I'm suspecting. It just seems to me that the downfall of the Jedi's should really be themselves. They are getting lazy, proud, and lonely at the top so they start fighting amongst themselves. The forget the ways that lead them to the status they were. (Anger moves people to the Dark Side references and all.) Darth is just the single embodiment of the fall.

But as it is I foresee a "Young Indiana Jones" style of storylines that wind up with an old man sitting in a rocking chair saying "And /that/ was how the light bulb was invented." Too much charectar contravance.
^~~^~^^~~^~^~^~^^~^^~^~^~~^^^~^^~~^~ ~~^~~^~
ABORTED effort:
Close all that you have.

No surprise (1)

mholve (1101) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047357)

Unless bonehead got off his ass and started seriously producing some film. At the rate he's going...

News?!? (0)

zonker (1158) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047358)

he has been saying this for some time now... this isn't really new...

Thank God (1)

heroine (1220) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047359)

Every time he's been interviewed about Star Wars it sounded like he was about to puke, collapse from exhaustion, or spin his head around 360.

For his own mental sanity, it sounded like he needed to quit.

Originality, please... (1)

__Paul__ (1570) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047360)

...why dredge out tired old plots, characters and Universes when you can use your imagination and come up with your own?

Software: Code reuse is good.

Entertainment: Plot reuse is bad.

Good. (1)

slim (1652) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047361)

As I see it, the 6 movies will add up to a
the whole story of Darth Vader's life. The series
begins with his birth, and ends with his death.

Just like Titus Groan ;)

This is probably a good thing. (1)

axolotl (1659) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047362)

Lucas hasn't been hyping it much. Apart from the trailer and stuff on the web site (which, let's face it, not everyone has access to) I have seen very little official. The only people who have been hyping it are some of the die-hard fans. If they are disappointed, that's their problem. I'm just going to wait and see what it's like. I'm quietly confident that it'll be good, but I'm not working myself up over it.
Hey, get a grip! It's just a film!


Yeah well. (1)

mattdm (1931) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047363)

Wait until episodes 1-3 make Lucas richer than Bill Gates. Then we'll see what he thinks.


Glad Lucas knows when to quit... (1)

Mako Lee (5550) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047364)

Star Trek in the same situation? I kind doubt it! Star Trek be bad, and even getting worse, but they have a strong following and as long as people (like me) are going out to see their crappy movies, I don't see them going out PERIOD, in style or in a coffin or anyway else.

I don't think that death, (or how they die,) is really an issue to Paramount and the Star Trek crowd. They see it as a bottomless pit and it's idiots like me who make it possible. Oh well, I enjoy myself! :)

JMS (1)

ewhac (5844) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047365)

JMS is J. Michael Straczinski(sp?), creator of Babylon-5.


dutch trek "marathon" (1)

Andreas Bombe (7266) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047366)

So whats this? ST night with only four movies? Either show Insurrection alone or show em all. *Thats* what I call ST nights! (Then again, the 8-movies-in-a-row was already a bit more than a night.)

Star Wars, Star Trek, same problem (1)

TrentC (11023) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047367)

The way I see it, Star Trek has had the same problem for the last couple of movies that Return of the Jedi had. Instead of creating a movie that appeals to dedicated fans, they attempt to bring in new fans by putting to much "cute" or "funny" into the movie. I really enjoyed the dark tone of the first two Star Wars movies, and was disgusted when I went to see Jedi and saw a bunch of nausea inducing ewoks.

While I will not disagree with you one whit about the Ewoks (I thought they were cute at the time, but not so much any more) there's a reason movie and TV producers try to cater to new viewers as well as die-hards, and it starts with "$"...

You have to open the franchise up at some point to new viewers, otherwise as the die hard fans start leaving (as some Trek fans are apt to do when Voyager is the only TV left) there's no one left to fill their shoes.

Babylon 5 is the exception that proves the rule, by the way... it's only now at the end we can say it was a success. It could have foundered and died after the 1st season when they lost their leading man. When I'd heard that O'Hare was leaving, I thought "that's it, the show is toast."

I'm not ashamed to admit that I stopped watching B5 halfway through season 1, and didn't start watching again until they started dropping hints about the Shadows, which appealed to the H.P. Lovecraft and conspiracy fan in me. I'm glad I stuck around for the ride the second time around (plus getting to catch up on the episodes I missed in seasons 1 and 2 on TNT...)

Jay (=
(Who knows someone who honestly thinks that a Trek series based on and starring Klingons would actually be a success...)

What would they be about anyway... (1)

binarybits (11068) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047368)

Lucas did an excellent job of killing off all the bad guys in last movie: Vader, the emporer, Jabba, even Bobba Fett is dead.

He would have to make up an entirely new story line, which would be rather anticlimatic.

the books ARE non canon. (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047369)

I don't remember anyone saying that the people celebrating were rebels, or that the planet even WAS Coruscant. But maybe I missed a subtitle somewhere %)

Didn't he say this before? (1)

BigZaphod (12942) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047370)

I think I remember reading that Lucas said he was not going to make any more after the original 3 (episodes 4-6)? I could be wrong. I think he just likes to see if he will get any reaction from the fans. (Helps fuel the ego a bit)

Not exactly the best news there could be (1)

Dr Strangelove (13729) | more than 15 years ago | (#2047371)

...especially the pa'rt about him not knowing what to do next after all this time. As JMS has shown, the deneumet(sp) can be the most explosive part of the story... OTOH, given the time scale bumped out to the same as for Episodes IV-VI, he hos plenty of time to change his mind...

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