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Gator Forces Site To Remove 'Spyware' Label

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the gentler-nicer-language dept.

Privacy 927

lurker412 writes "CNet News is reporting that Gator has forced PC Pitstop to remove Web pages that call Gator's software 'spyware.' The correct term, according to Gator, is 'adware.' The article states: 'If we find anyone publicly calling us spyware, we correct it and take action if necessary,' said Scott Eagle, Gator's senior vice president of marketing. So be careful what you say in your comments..."

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Me first (5, Funny)

setzman (541053) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286159)

I, setzman, say that Gator is spyware. btw, First Post!!

Re:Me first (5, Funny)

rolling_rox (690973) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286178)

I don't like to use the term spyware, I prefer the term "Crapware"

Re:Me first (4, Insightful)

Oopsz (127422) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286221)

Great idea.

No, think about it. They can claim their product doesn't "Spy", but when it comes to arguments about its crap-like qualities, they haven't a foot to stand on.

Let there be... (1, Funny)

after (669640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286281)

I will be the ultimate... and thus name this new type of software:
SpyCrap

Re:Me first (-1)

Seth Finklestein (582901) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286199)

I agree. Gator is spyware. If they disagree with me, I dare them to sue me. I'll take them down like I took down Michael Sims.

You heard it here... (2, Funny)

MaskedInterrupt (718246) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286161)

I publicly declare Gator Software IS SpyWare. Now... Come get me!

OK, Gator, You Win! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286164)

We won't call it Spyware!

We'll just call it Santorumware. [thestranger.com]

first post! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286170)

gator is spyware spyware spyware!

Well, it is. (0, Redundant)

Kredal (566494) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286172)

gator = spyware.

Deal with it.

Re:Well, it is. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286240)

> gator = spyware.

well of course, that is a tautology.

perhaps you meant to use the equality operator:

gator == spyware.

Re:Well, it is. (0)

after (669640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286322)

you == Master of the obvious

Re:Well, it is. (1)

heapacreep (701458) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286251)

It is like McDonalds selling french fries, one can not just remove a label that has already been established in the eyes of the public, and as such, I agree, gator = spyware. What do they want us to call it? Sneakuponyouwhenyouarenotlookingware

Look at me! I'm so brave! (1)

CrankyFool (680025) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286174)

Of course, given that Gator would take action against Slashdot, the risk is rather minimal and anyway "other people's problem."

Anyway, I thought Gator's primary purpose was pushing ads?

This isn't a troll, it's funny! (1, Funny)

corebreech (469871) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286175)

Because I say so.

And just because I say it's funny doesn't make it a troll either.

spyware/adware (0)

00RUSS (549125) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286176)

like there is really a big diffrence.

alternative names.... (5, Funny)

User 956 (568564) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286180)

What if we call it snoopware? shitware? How about "fucks-up-your-computer-and- makes-it-run-slower-ware"?

Re:alternative names.... (0)

00RUSS (549125) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286198)

this would be ok, just not spyware.

Re:alternative names.... (5, Funny)

i am nude (545697) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286262)

i like "You stole my CPU cycles and i want them back!!! ware"

Re:alternative names.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286267)

Here [wildpuma.com] is some lovely shitware for you, sir. I sincerely hope you enjoy it.

I agree.. (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286181)

It's spyware. It's not particularly sneaky spyware, but spyware nonetheless.

-jcr

Sure..... (1)

wjames (579137) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286183)

I Believe in good faith that gator is the largest peice of spyware that has ever weazled its way on to my computer.

whoa... whoa! (5, Funny)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286184)

Gat0r is spyware. Ha ha! Can't get me! Fooled you! Neener neener neener! ... *sigh* it's so lonely in my parent's basement. *sniff*

on permban (1)

downix (84795) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286185)

Gator's tactics border on criminal. I kept getting popups asking to install Gator's software and I continually say no. If someone keeps calling me on the phone, I can have my telco block the number. But there is no such service from ISP's at this time.

Re:on permban (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286218)

Sure there is. Just re-route Gator's servers to 127.0.0.1 in your HOSTS file.

Re:on permban (1)

jimbolaya (526861) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286222)

Sure there is! Software or browsers that block pop-ups are quite common. And, yep, ISPs (e.g., Earthlink) even provide such software. Oh yeah, and Gator is spyware!

Re:on permban (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286248)

Privoxy should be able to block it.

Re:on permban (1)

Bryan_W (649785) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286263)

Yes there is, it's called Mozilla Firebird [mozilla.org]

Re:on permban (1)

DShard (159067) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286326)

Or any other browser that is standards conformant, secure (I.E. no activeX), and god forbid... has tabbed browsing. If you are on slashdot and haven't figured out that MSIE is a Bad Thing then you just haven't been paying attention. Even a chimp will avoid the electrified side of the cage.

Re:on permban (2, Informative)

KMAPSRULE (639889) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286296)

Mozilla 1.4+ has a nifty popup blocker

Creative PC naming (1)

DShard (159067) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286186)

I am not full of shit... I am a biological waste orator.

Gator = Spyware (4, Insightful)

citizenc (60589) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286188)

Does it spy on me? Yes. Is it software? Yes. Therefore, Gator = Spyware.

QED.

Re: Use of Q.E.D. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286289)

I love slashbots that've read Cryptonomicon and think they're hot shit by writing 'Q.E.D.' everywhere they can. ROCK

Okay, lets put them to the test: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286189)

Show us the source code and prove it's not spyware. Else, how can we know?

GATOR is this type of software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286191)

...I was going to announce the obvious, but people beat me to it, so instead I'm going to say that it starts with "spy" and ends in "ware" and it's not "spy with underwear", although it does rhyme with that.

A new name (1)

Hanzie (16075) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286195)

I guess we should call it "Not Spyware"

I was thinking about "gatorware" but I don't want to give out free advertising to Gator and it is probably a trademark infringement.

Re:A new name (1)

citizenc (60589) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286275)

Hahaha. Gatorware gets MY vote :)

Re:A new name (1)

KDogII (718254) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286321)

How about we call it "The software formerly known as spyware?"

Gator is Spyware (2, Insightful)

mrpuffypants (444598) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286196)

Gator claims that their software isn't spyware because people are told about what they are installing. Yes, they are told that they are installing Gator but that's it. I'm pretty sure that even my grandmother would click NO to installing a "persistent, targeted advertising and consumer tracking system" onto her computer.

So while technically they are correct they should also realise that they are sleazebags who sleep with SCO. There. That should piss them off.

Oh, and P.S.: Gator is Spyware. Ha!

all rights and no responsibility (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286201)

Yeah..Yeah,.. the US has free speech. ROFL.
Does anyone else noticeany correlation between patriotism and blindness?
Greg

Re:all rights and no responsibility (1)

kingkade (584184) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286312)

Does anyone else noticeany correlation between patriotism and blindness?

Only you because you are so god damned insightful and the rest of us are all morons...
RTF article, they settled (first paragraph). Besides, not all freedoms are absolute, there is such a thing as slander. Now, go die.

Gator is Spyware! (1)

Lord Zerrr (237123) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286203)

Gator is Spyware
adware is spyware
Gator = spyware

Re:Gator is Spyware! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286273)

Very ..uh.. transitive.. almost.

Gator is Adware
Adware (if it is to be targetted in any meaningful way) is Spyware
Therefore Gator is Spyware

SpyWare (1)

eman21 (79658) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286204)

Just one example of freedom of speech being eroded be corpertions with overpaid lawers.

Alright Gator... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286208)

You win, we would from hereforth stop calling you guys Spyware, instead we have opted to call you by a multitude of other names: Hitlerware, Saddamware, Rapeware, Thiefware and last but not lest, Fuckware.

Look, you can call it a cute monkey if you want, (1)

Unknown Poltroon (31628) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286209)

but eventually, the phrase "cute monkey"will be understood by all to mean "rabid 900 pound ball crushing gorilla". It dosent really matter in the long run.

Spyware is OK protected by free speech (1)

bstadil (7110) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286210)

Anyone can call software what they want. Maybe if your are a corporation you have to be careful, but the rest of us incl. the press can call Gator's offering Crab, Spyware or whatever.

If they try to censor any private person you will end up being the proud owner of this POS

It's not spyware, here anyway (1)

Platinum Dragon (34829) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286212)

I prefer to call Gator "something that can't install itself on my system."

*hugs Galeon*

Re:It's not spyware, here anyway (1)

EvilSporkMan (648878) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286274)

Shouldn't you just hug GNU/Linux? Somehow I doubt Galeon is the sole force preventing Gator from somehow spawning on your computer...^_^

Re:It's not spyware, here anyway (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286298)

bug 217019 [debian.org]

The difference being? (1)

adjensen (58676) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286214)

Spyware...adware...what's the difference? If it's intrusive and annoying, call it whatever you want but keep it off my system. Any company that downloads crap to my PC without my permission and then uses said access to make money off my bandwidth / attention span sucks plain and simple, regardless of how they spin it.

Good thing I don't use Windows, I guess.

Oh yeah? (1)

pimpinmonk (238443) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286215)

Well I'll gladly call Gator "Bitchware." As in, they're bitches for installing stuff on my computer without my permission (or installed, rather, back when I used Windows). So go ahead, sue me. I call it freedom of speech. If I call MS a monopoly, can they get mad at me? What about if I say they're a Nazi Fascist Organization? Still no? Is it true or accurate? No... As long as the other site wasn't making money off of "misrepresenting" Gator I don't see the issue or any legal qualm. Someone please correct or clarify this for me if I'm wrong, though.

So we're not too ameri-centric... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286216)

Gator is spyware.

Gator es spyware.

Gator est spyware.

Gator ist spyware.

Gator e spyware.

Alright, that's not that many. Post a few more if you want...

yup (1)

pergamon (4359) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286217)

i know this is going to be a post filled with hundreds of these, so i might as well jump on board too:

in my opinion, gator qualifies as what i consider to be spyware.

spyware term fits Gator nicely (1)

NynexNinja (379583) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286225)

I think the term "Spyware" and its associated definition fit Gator corporation just nicely. I would counter sue them for false advertising, deceptive advertising, and 15 other crimes which they are guilty of but I forgot to mention in this post.

-brian

Gator=spyware (1)

rump_carrot (644292) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286226)

Gator=spyware and Gator=spyware also Gator=total spyware but too Gator=total spywareGator=spyware to the max and then there is Gator=spyware to the max plus the fact that Gator=spyware to the uber max.

A rose is a rose... (4, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286228)

If you put a pig in an evening gown and take it out for the evening, it's still a pig.

Re:A rose is a rose... (1)

DShard (159067) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286287)

And all you've really accomplished is pissing off the pig..

Gator is spyware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286229)

Gator is spyware. It messes up your computer.

Spyware, Spyware, Spyware, Spyware, Spyware! (1)

OrangeStoli (694189) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286230)

Spyware, Spyware , Spyware, Spyware , Spyware!

gator is (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286232)

vomitware

How about Assware? (1)

ovapositor (79434) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286235)

Nuff Said

Then why don't we (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286236)

we call it SCOware instead? (Or is that more insulting?)

-Coward.

what about bonzibuddy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286238)

So what does this make BonziBuddy? Friendware? Cuddleware?

Re:what about bonzibuddy? (1)

Platinum Dragon (34829) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286266)

So what does this make BonziBuddy? Friendware? Cuddleware?

LSDware.

Every time I see the damn purple jumpy thing running on someone else's machine, I feel like I'm having an acid flashback. Considering that I've never dropped acid, that's some trick.

should be called... (0, Redundant)

seriv (698799) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286242)

Should be called evilware.
-Seriv

Well, we now know who the next Darl is. . . (1)

Excen (686416) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286245)


If we find anyone publicly calling us spyware, we correct it and take action if necessary

Does this sound like Darl or Hilary or Mitch to anyone? I mean, this smacks of RIAA-esque legal abuse to me.

Re:Well, we now know who the next Darl is. . . (1)

Excen (686416) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286278)


Oh, yeah, and. . .


gator IS spyware FARKTARD!!!!!

Spyware?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286252)

What? You mean Gator is ADWARE? Oh that explains why it installs without asking! Silly me thought it was Spyware...

In other news... (3, Funny)

sTalking_Goat (670565) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286253)

Charles Manson has asked that public stop refering to the acts of his folloers as a "Murder Spree". The correct term is "existence adjustment initiative"...

Next Slashdot poll... (1)

cdrudge (68377) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286254)

What is Gator?
  • Spyware
  • Adware
  • Spyware that shows ads
  • Adware that spys
  • All the above

Linux version (2, Funny)

LEPP (166342) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286255)

Have they come out with a Linux version of Gator? I am sure the Linux community feels left out. This might be just the thing that would cause me to fdisk my computer and reinstall windoze.

LEPP

Gator is trash and spyware (5, Insightful)

Chibi Merrow (226057) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286256)

At work we have a constant battle against Gator on user PCs as it uses deceptive messages and popups on websites to convince users to install. I have found little software that does more to make a user's PC using experience unenjoyable than Gator. Bravo, you've gone above and beyond the call of duty; most spyware simply installs itself and tracks users movements, your software pretends to provide useful functionality on top of being deceptive and displaying your customers' ads instead of the ones that rightfully belong on the site. And on top of all this it makes an already nearly unbearably (wow, alot of -ys) unstable OS (Windows) even more unusable.
Thanks alot, Gator! You've made me look like a PC Repair genius as simply running Ad-Aware on most systems to remove the stinking heap of maggot infested goat dung your software is from a user's PC thereby speeding it up and making it crash less often!

viewmaster says: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286258)

got my flashlight, got my soda, got my spyware!

Definitely Spyware (1)

penguinrenegade (651460) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286260)

Come and get me along with the thousands of others!

Just wanted to add my support to the fact that Gator = spyware.

Oh, but seriously... (1)

CrystalFalcon (233559) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286261)

...it's not like they have a good public relation to care for. What do they have to lose?

Wait I have it (1)

downix (84795) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286264)

The product formerly known as Spyware.

gator != spyware? don't make me laugh (1)

carise (525661) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286265)

spyware or not, i'd be rather happy if it didn't INFILTRATE my computer... it's really something that doesn't need resident in my box.

i call it CRAPWARE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286268)

nt

OSX == gayware (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286269)

for teabaggers only

gator e-wallet (1)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286279)

from the gator.com page
" and get the Gator eWallet with no GAIN advertising for $30."
hahahaha what kind of person whoul PAY gator to store their financial info?
thats really scary and funny at the same time

hehehe.... (1)

MikeLRoy (246462) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286284)

GATOR IS SPYWARE
GATOR IS SPYWARE

comments care of Michael Roy of Winnipeg

To slashdot (1)

herrvinny (698679) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286285)

SPYWARE, you dirty FAT BASTARDS! Shove it up yours, Gator, because you suck. If you really wanted to notify people about your software, you'd display a huge friggin splash screen informing people that Gator was installed, instead of surreptitiously displaying ads and the users having no clue where they came from.

I had to... (1)

rasafras (637995) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286286)

In soviet russia, you spy on gator!

Notified? (5, Interesting)

mishehu (712452) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286288)

Some web pages try to install Gator/GAIN and notify you of it (which most windows users ignore, because that would require READING), but when you install programs like Kazaa and other "free programs", Gator/GAIN, PrecisionTime, Date Manager, $avenow, and a half dozen other spyware programs can be installed and you are NEVER informed of it. So, I will continue to call Gator "spyware", and if they'd like to sue me, I hope they can hope to squeeze water out of a rock. ;-)

Also, I hope Gator reads this, so they know how much we hate them. But maybe I should thank them for generating extra business for me to remove their program from clients' computers.

Yeah, I know it's redundant (1)

Macgruder (127971) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286292)

GATOR is Spyware, Crapware, and generally a piece of odoriferous shit.

GATOR is Spyware, Crapware, and generally a piece of odoriferous shit.

In all seriousness, folks... (1)

SpekkioMofW (711835) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286295)

...this isn't necessarily a First Amendment issue. Would Gator be able to successfully sue a publication for libel for calling their product "spyware?" An answer to this I do not have, but a good question, it is.

Wild West (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286300)

Where the biggest legal guns prevail. Funny, I thought it was the corporations complaining about the chaos of the Internet??

New Term: (4, Funny)

Cytlid (95255) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286301)

Assholeware - companies that produce spyware and then insist that noone calls it as such.

Spyware (1)

Lord Zerrr (237123) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286302)

I love the fact that Gator is SpyWare!

Gator is spyware, and that's not all. (0, Flamebait)

Dell Brandstone (127568) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286303)

Gator is Spyware. Furthermore, the president of Gator's Scitt Eagle personally raped my daughter's friend and kicked my dog. And then he slowed my computer down by walking past it.

How about ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286307)

'WankerWare'?

Silly me! (1)

ancarett (221103) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286313)

I thought the correct technical term was "scumware" -- guess I fell behind the times.

I prefer to call it (0, Redundant)

reboot246 (623534) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286314)

Scumware

The worst kind of scumware

Oy. (-1, Flamebait)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286316)

Before I even opened the comments page, I predicted that at least 75% of the replies would be from incredibly witty people calling Gator spyware. So far it looks like I was right.

-- Dr. Eldarion --

What a moron (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286318)

I sincerely hope that Scott Eagle is run over by a bus moving at high speed. I also hope someone blows up Gator's little SPYWARE headquarters.

not spyware... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7286319)

more like slimeware...unethicalware...greedyware...snakeware but not spyware

The next step. (1)

C10H14N2 (640033) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286320)

What, will Porsche start suing to have "gas-guzzler" removed from any reference to the worse-than-a-hummer 8mpg Cayenne?

I agree (1)

j0nb0y (107699) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286324)

We shouldn't call it spyware. Instead, we'll call it malware. Right up there with viruses, worms, and trojan horses. Only difference is that gator isn't self-propagating. Hehe, gator messes up your computer more than most viruses.

GATOR IS SPYWARE (3, Informative)

trelanexiph (605826) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286328)

from: GAINware 5.0 [gatoradver...etwork.com]

Here's what we do know...
While we don't know the identity of GAIN-Supported Software users, the GAIN AdServer and TGC collect and use the following kinds of anonymous information:
  • Some of the Web pages viewed
  • The amount of time spent at some Web sites Response to GAIN Ads
  • Standard web log information (excluding IP Addresses) and system settings
  • What software is on the personal computer
  • First name, country, city, and five digit ZIP code
  • Non-personally identifiable information on Web pages and forms
  • Software usage characteristics and preferences

so you track who we are (list item 6, and 7 different list items of data about us, including what kind of computer we have, where we surf, what software we use to go there and configuration information on our computers.) YOU ARE SPYING ON US.
spy [reference.com]
n. pl. spies (spz)
  1. An agent employed by a state to obtain secret information, especially of a military nature, concerning its potential or actual enemies.
  2. One employed by a company to obtain confidential information about its competitors.
  3. One who secretly keeps watch on another or others.
  4. An act of spying.

    for those who are illiteratei among us, please check the third definition.
    Thus I declare that you (Gator) are manufactures and purveyors of spyware onto the masses.

Hey Gator! (1)

dmaxwell (43234) | more than 10 years ago | (#7286329)

Spyware, spyware, spyyyyyyyyyywaaaaare!

Wankers.
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